Those…uniforms…are another matter, however.

Heavily influenced by 2001: A Space Odyssey

@@russellsantana indeed,rumor has it they had an almost unlimited budget as well.

Lol

horta

And Nomad/Tan-Ru.

Not quite true. The original effects team, Abel and Associates, were fired for spending too much money. Abel's team in their defense say they had to constantly scrap and rehash effects scenes as the producers couldn't make up their minds, resulting in a budget blow-out and slow progress. Trumbull had been approached prior Abel being hired but preferred to work on another project. After Abel was dispensed with, Trumbull agreed to take over on the grounds that he could have cart-blanche on certain key spfx sequences. This whole Spock-Vger mind meld scene was Trumbull's idea and replaced the "Memory wall" scene. As all this was "last minute" stuff, Trumbull's team did indeed work around the clock as a result. It has to be said that Trumbull did an amazing job given the circumstances, but I'm also curious as to what the Abel version might have turned out like.

I would add that the round the clock shifts were the only way they would deliver the film on time. Trumbull was so exhausted and stressed that he checked himself into the hospital after it was done.

@@martinharris5017 so many youtube comments are so banal and unintelligent. so thank you for posting actual interesting information, well done!

@@sliceserve234 And thank you also: One gets accustomed to being trolled so it's quite a shock to get a compliment!

Well Leonard Nimoy did make a few bucks doign narration in various documentaries.

He narrates an old Dreamcast video game, 'Seaman', in which you raise a virtual pet that evolves and holds 'conversations' with you via a mic controller. What's funny is that he stops abruptly and clears his throat, clearly annoyed, if you press start to speed past his narration on the loading screen.

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He's the narrator of Civilization IV. One of many reasons why that's the best Civ game

It’s not Vger it’s voyager 6 come on you guys get it right

It was something to see in the theaters way back when!

Yeah, the Connie refit was the epitome of elegance.

Any of those scenes with the Enterprise would make for a great poster

NEEEERD!

@@JustAboutAnything66 Yea, I know its not a Soverign, but he is right! Thats a beautiful looking piece of scifi-tech!

it's worse as it edited out Spock's build-up, those first 30 seconds of dialogue. Thankfully shown here.

Wow, I must have missed that. I believe it’s in the 4k edition🤔.

They removed the instruction sequence

bob guccione......bguccione......vger!

My dad's office used to get free issues of omni I loved looking at the covers (was too young to read the stories)

Omg! Omni 🤯

Hilarious 😁

hahahaha

I’ve noticed a flaw. When the enterprise enters to “meet” V’ger at the end….when Spock goes through THE SAME door here we see none of what he saw when the ship goes through?

@@TheGava4 yep, that was a last minute edit flaw as several key scenes were never filmed. however, this was addressed to some degree in the Director's Edition.

It was a for a time people were a bit silly and didn’t know any better. They could never remake this movie today. I like the new movies and wish there were more.

@@TheBooban i disagree. the sense of discovery and using reason and compassion in encounters with the universe are the magic of star trek

That's a very interesting way of looking at it.

"not the fight and drama" 100% NOT true. In the end Kirk always ended up in a good ol fashioned fist fight. So i dont know WHAT trek you thought you were watching. Kirk was one of the best fighters on TV

I would add First Contact to the list of more interesting story lines.

I miss real Star Trek. Now, it's just a "platform" from which to virtue signal.

I concur.

@@bradleyj.fortner2203 you do realize it’s always been that

@@DogsRNice It's always had progressive ideas. But, they were subtly written into good science fiction. For the most part, anyway. Now, it's just intersectional feminism and LGBTQ+ representation being shoved down your throat with a healthy dose of mindless action. It went from being progressive sci-fi to being woke garbage in space.

@@bradleyj.fortner2203 to say "it's always been that" is bad faith. Do not engage. That person is trying to protect some bad by tearing down something good. Evil men do that.

Sulu: “Ohh myyyy” 😂

RIP Leonard Nimoy 🖖🏻

Spock: "Captain, I am heading towards what looks like a giant space vagina" Kirk: "I'm coming right after you!"

@@mikesully110 More like a giant space anus.

Speak for yourself. The way it regurgitated Spock reminded me of a sea anemone

I found it amazing to learn that his oldest son did the musical score for all of the Stargate Series.

@@Spazilton1 Ah, yes, the late Joel Goldsmith. He did his best work on Stargate Universe.

He was very much into experimental sounds and soundscapes in his scores, especially at that time. But his efforts are right on the money most of the time. He won an Academy Award for his experimental score for "Planet of the Apes" in 1968 and the score for "Alien" is perfect (which is mostly atmospheric sounds rather than actual music), which actually came out the same year as this movie, filling us with dread and loneliness from the very first frame. He and John Williams will go down in history as the top of the top in film composers.

@@JustWasted3HoursHere I know exactly what you mean sir. Mr. Goldsmith's music has certainly taken me to some strange, unusual musical places I've never heard before (as if I had to tell ya!).

ALIEN and Star Trek The Motion Picture he went nuts on in 1979. My 2 all time favorite soundtracks

To be fair, Star Trek and Star Wars had different aesthetic goals.

Also Douglas Trumbull too.. Many hands on deck to pull off this sfx wonder in the last minute after the original sfx director was fired.

@@freelywheely I love Trumbulls work, its a standout for sure, his work on the Tree of Life is pretty damn good!

The effects were started by Abel and Associates and completed by Doug Trumbull. The images were designed by Robert McCall, James Probert, David J. Negron and Syd Mead.

Abrams went the Star Wars route and we saw how that turned out. STTMP is a quintessential 70s sci if movie.

Not far off the mark... and 2001: A Space Odyssey, was part of the reason why Star Trek went the Movies, Star Wars was the other reason ^^

Interesting. They're both pretty similar, except they're the reverse of eachother. In this case, the alien is coming to its creator, whereas in 2001 the creator was visiting the alien

But let's face it were all so glad star wars encouraged star trek movies to become a thing. These films have a fond place in my heart ❤ star trek films are just brilliant even the not so good one's are great 😊

@@marcusphoenixish 2, 4 and 6 are the best ones... 1 and 3 were still good, and 5.... I think we just want to pretend never happened.... I do not like the reboot movies at all.... tons and tons of mistakes and they just through away the lore of Star trek, they had no idea what they were doing... and I do not want ST:Ds.......

@@xaero76 I know not all of them were great and the re boots have lost the ethos of the original star trek I have to say I agree. But as long as they are better than the disaster star wars became in the later movies I'm ok with that. And c'mon it was so so good to see Leanard Nimoy on the big screen as Spock before he sadly died 🖖

He actually did manage to meld with V'ger, but the overload nearly killed him!

It worked, though! Spock saved the day!

Yup. VGER in pon farr nearly killed him. She was way too big. The captain hauled him unconscious back to the ship. Spock lay there staring into space wordless and looking--do I see--slightly disappointed (?)

if you see discovery or new disney scfi movies then this is a n1 masterpiece

You're not alone. This is actually a pretty kick ass film.

It had some pacing issues, but other than that I liked it very much.

He could use the transporter.... if he wanted to talk to Spock's intestines.

In Kirk's defence he did go back inside to get another suit. 😄

He had Starfleet's version of the SAFER system. The RCS thruster kit is integrated with the PLSS pack, only with more fuel. Spock's thruster pack was designed to jet the user clear of a exploding warp core within 30 seconds. By the book, but when has an emergency evacuation ever gone by the book...

I agree with you Terry 🖖

it was clearly stated in this scene that the thruster pack had only 10 seconds of fuel which was fully used up on this scene so it no longer served any function.

@@justjohnny05 He could have given it as a gift to Vger

He did. Like a sperm cell losing its tail (propulsion) gives it to the receiving body,

It really is a “ madman” as the man who sold it to me described it

Spock's okay. In the original series, Dr. McCoy removed his brain from an alien super CPU back into his skull. In the animated series, he joined his mind with a giant cloud creature. So this was just a poke to his synapses. 🧠

Can you imagine Spock mind-melding with the internet? Ouch!

@@ai6894 yeah a 480 volt 3 phase poke

@@matthewcaughey8898 🤣 true, nonetheless! 🔋 ⚡

It’s worth telling you that the sets, uniforms, and extra stuff was built for a series that never was. It was intended for the TV series Star Trek phase 2. It was supposed to have a different version of the enterprise seen here and detailed a 2nd 5 year mission under James Kirk. After Star Wars caught on paramount pictures authorized a movie vs a TV series. So to save on prop design they simply recycled the props and costumes for ST phase 2. The script was a 45 minute pilot for Star Trek phase 2 entitled “ in thy image “ extra dialogue was added but all the tracking shots and long music scores were basically filler to pad what was a thin 45 minute TV script. That’s where the weird uniforms came from and why you get 45 plus minutes of no speaking

Hey those are leisure suits! Probably has nanobot fibers to really give a firm, secure feel. And useful in the holographic inverter.

There were a lot of problems with these costumes. For example, due to being made from spandex, they retained odor, pulled down on the actors' backs and even worse, they required external assistance to remove for the simplest of tasks like going to the bathroom. In fact, they weren't ALWAYS going to be monochromatic, Robert Fletcher originally intended for the costumes to be two-toned like Kirk's intiial outfit, but he was overruled in that regard and so most of the uniforms were made monochromatic save for Kirk's Admiral's uniform which was mostly Loden Green with a stripe of white going down the front and the back.

Reuse of costumes intended for the TV show “ Star Trek phase 2”. In order to save money they basically reused the pilot show script for the TV show called ‘ in thy image”. They added dialogue but they needed long drawn out visual effects and tracking shots. To save money and let the visual effects people have a nearly unlimited budget, paramount opted to reuse sets and costumes from phase 2. When they made Wrath of Khan the costume and props department got a much bigger budget to play with. Hence the now iconic maroon uniforms

Can't be real cause in the future everyone's getting fatter every ten years.. They will never fit .

good spot, i said the same in my IMDB review. Also elements of Doomsday Machine, Corbomite Maneuver & Lights of Zetar.

Marooned... at the center of a dead planet? Buried alive?!

@@agquad KhAAANNNN!!!!!

V'Ger grabbed him with a tractor beam once it realized what he was up to, or Spock would have been fried by the meld.

If the Gods of Night and the Destiny series of books are taken as canon, then your answers reside for you within them.

To be fair, Spock isn't an android who just taught himself to do a vulcan mind meld.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this scene has sexual overtones...

The entire movie is pretty much one giant metaphor for sex.........

Later you see a vulva with eggs around it. The sensor is a clitoris. He is of course inside Vagina… I mean Vger.

I certainly wouldn't doubt it, considering how trippy '70s sci-fi movies could get.

Instead of a vagina…its a VGERNA

The nopening narrator for EfNY is unmistakably Jamie Lee Curtis.

People were drunk on star wars. They wanted action. This was to long and cerebral.

One assumes he expended all the fuel in the thruster pack he had, which is why he discarded it. It's possible the suit itself also had its own, slower, propulsion system, and he might have been planning to get back that way. Or he may not have been expecting to return at all, which is why he was documenting and recording what he saw.