Appreciate your review. Good detailed info on the features. Much better info than the RM video! Really appreciate the real-life info on actual sizing.

I ordered the 36 because I wear 36in jeans with a belt as well. Ended up going with the 40, as I got to try on a 40 from a friend. I wasn't worried about it being a little big because of the velcro straps. I'm happy with the 40.

Like you I normally wear a 36 in pants, but seeing as I wear moose padded shorts I’ll go with the 38’s, thanks for the informative review.

Just ordered some. Hope they are good.

thanks for the review definitely gonna get a pair. Tired of having wet legs when I go riding in the puddles. Do you know if they are pretty much water proof?

... Thanks for the video. I have the MSR Voyager pants and jacket. ... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iuCBZ8RizbOygp8.html ... You are 100% correct in the waist fit. I have a pair of HD red suspenders that keep the pants up in place. Yes, the bottom snap can difficult to find and snap. Overall I really like the set. CRF 300 Rally owner Jeff .