I watched several clips. youtube wants 24 bucks to rent it. Ill wait till the price comes down. but the clips looked entertaining. thats what it is, entertainment. so, anything else I can explain for you today? or are you done. sorry if your butt-hurt

​@@gordonmohr2268piracy is easier than you think

It’s rotten

​@@EvanDonahue2277 do starving people let food rot?

I may be wrong but this is quite some time after the outbreak of the revolution. The shortage mostly had died down as it was only for a year or two due to bad weather.

Agreed. They didnt need to execute her or the king imo

He didn't witness the execution because at the time he was in Toulon.

Well said...In addition to Phoenix being woefully miscast as Napoleon, the resemblance to actual history is even worse.

Also Marie Antoinette had that little frilled cap on. The one you see in the Jaques Louis David sketch

Is that Edith Piaf singing in the background? That is so 1940s.

@@gotoalex100 do you know what song is that? I've been looking for it.

It's a movie, not an essay

@@empereurdugrandaveyron6477 For sure. But movies can also respect the real history and some movies could not be called "biographie" or "historic movies" when they do not respect the reality.

Normally it would be rotten food that was no good to eat for two reasons: 1. it smelled bad so extra humiliation 2. It was not edible.

@@rammiine Yea, i figured :))

those food thrown at her are probably rotten

They were throwing rotten food at her while they were eating their cake, watching her losing her head...

Rotten or not the still choose not to eat. Apparently getting sick thrills from blood was more important than their own survival.

It’s an overall fantastic start to this movie from how masterfully directed it is and how beautifully stylized the movie opens as and is throughout! The movie IS fantastically well directed purely from the visuals, sound design, music, tone, atmosphere, art direction, and gorgeous cinematography throughout! And that’s easily a fact right there!

I bet he only just focused on the major highlights. This being one of them.

And the thing is that he doesn't age in the movie, so there isn't even any effort made about it

I thought the exact same thing too; this role was not for him. I had no idea how old Joaquin was. I thought he was in his late 50's. Wow.

He doesn’t look like 60

Amd she was older I him But then who would've done better??

@@traydaniel0403 Joaquin Phoenix looks older than Tom Cruise, who is 61.

Now THAT's a fun fact.

You're being generous.

Your critic trolling earns a solid 5.2. I see potential.

Full version: “If it is not a subject of remorse, it must at least be a very great subject of regret for all French hearts that the crime committed in the person of this unfortunate queen. There is a big difference between this death and that of Louis XVI, although, certainly, he did not deserve his misfortune. This is the condition of kings, their life belongs to everyone; it is only they who cannot dispose of it; an assassination, a conspiracy, a cannon shot, these are their chances; Caesar and Henry IV were assassinated, the Alexander of the Greeks would have been assassinated if he had lived longer. But a woman who had nothing but honors without power, a foreign princess, the most sacred of hostages, dragging her from a throne to the scaffold through all kinds of outrages! There is something even worse than regicide there! » Nicolas François Mollien relates Napoleon's remarks on the execution of the deposed queen (taken from the Memoirs of a Minister of the Public Treasury 1780-1815)

Let me put your mind at ease - what you’re watching is called a ‘film’. It’s a series of moving images assembled to form a motion picture piece of entertainment. It is not fact, it is not documentary, it is only a film.

You realise the british don't all have some natural hatred towards napoleon?

exactly, so why show him there when he wasn't actually there?

@@Ievitation what does the director being English have to do with anything?

Cinema put everythings and lies in one scene!

Sadly it seems Ridely Scott has had his day, he hasn't made a good movie in a long while and at this point they're just selling his name

Thomas Jefferson told the French they needed to execute the aristocracy. He gave them the idea that the nobility needed to removed for the good of France. But like everything the French do is overdone and the children were also executed along with their parents. That was the Reign of Terror! Viva Le Roi

Yes. Catherine Walker is now 48 years old but looks like what people in their mid to late 30s look during those times.

Lmao you have to be kidding, even the king panicked and tried to run away. What you're watching there is Royalist propaganda little ignorant woman. Of course she was crying, most people would cry in such occasions, especially someone who has been treated well all her life.

@@opfer88 your pathetic nonsense are just revolutionary propaganda which by the way, as time progressed their lies were revealed just as much as their madness and stupidity! she didn't cry, she showed dignity, even had witnesses for it, she apologized to the executioner for accidentally stepping on his feet and there's also a last letter written by her to princess Elisabeth (guess who was the person who kept the letter and didn't allow it to be sent to Elisabeth and was instead kept in the hands of those in power for centuries) and your ridiculous words about her being treated well in her entire life! well, being neglected because of being the youngest child in a family with more than 10 kids, being queen of a racist country who never took her seriously as queen and never let go of her origins, being assaulted by everyone, in all ways for years, accused of things you never did or was even aware of, not having the right to have your own privacy and personal boundaries(which revolutionaries behaved much on this part) having your son being taken from you and be abused, being accused of incest and...if all of this sounds like being treated well, you're a lunatic! just like every other of those revolutionaries

Well, the drawing of her on a wheelcart showed she wore a sort of sleeping cap and her hair cut. I guess her hair was cut in the prison before she was being taken to the gallow. But the filmmakers failed to look at how she would look on way to gallow. Poor show!

What's weirder is the film gets this right later on. When Napoleon first meets Josephine she has shaved hair, wears just her white undergown, and a red necklace. This was a real style and statement made by many women who barely escaped the Guillotine, they were cosplaying how their relatives and friends would've looked when they went to the chop.

@@Dusty338 Determined to get all the bad takes in, are we? If you love feudalism so much you are welcome to go live in a peasant's hovel and perform menial labor for your masters in as servile a manner as you like.

"Get a life."

What like when he did gladiator none of the gladiators were fat nor was there advertisements in the arena. No was commodus killed in the arena but in his bath. Or the fact the crowds hated him when in fact they loved him. Or was balian of iblen in kingdom of heaven yound when the real o e was around 50 and disliked by Baldwin None of his movies are historically accurate bit instead use real life names for an entertaining story. If you want to watch a documentary then ridley Scott movie are not that

@@nicholassorrenson5073 Exactamente. You say it very good, its a Ridley Scott movie. Despite what my colleagues say, I enjoyed this movie but making a movie about the french emperor in a two hour and half movie thats a challenge.

The 2002 french miniseries was more accurate and interesting than what this garbage was.

Thats awfully easy for you to say. This isn’t one of your idiotic marvel comic films. This Hollywood abomination is using the names and likenesses of real people and real lives. Toying with history is never a good thing. Although it is typically American, so I should not be surprised.

@@charlesmaximus9161 "boohoo America" except the director of this film is British you dunce lol

Nonsense! By changing factual events in movies about historical events, it's capable of misleading, and misinforming people about the past, that which has created our current societies. It's shameful. George Orwell wouldn't be surprised at how this effort to rewrite history has become wildly successful.

I can buy that to an extent, but this film takes huge liberties with history. I understand movies need to entertain but it's possible to be both historical accurate to a degree and entertain. a good example of this is "Master in commander far side of the world" ,"the death of Stalin" and "Apollo 13"

Phoenix was miscast, unfortunately. Not only Napoleon but also his generals were, like, half the age of most enemy generals. The young and wild, the rebels of Europe. And with Phoenix being (and looking! - he somehow manages to look older in the movie than he does in real life?) older than the actress playing Josephine, this completely reversed their roles. The age difference had huge importance in their relationship.

@@josefavomjaaga6097And he’s one of the producers too

You mean Marie Antoinette?

Yes,sorry

It is. Too dark.

And she apologised for having stepped on the executioner's foot rather than smirking to all those around her.

If I'm going to watch a movie about history....it should be accurate, and if it cannot be entirely accurate...at least make a significant effort. Way too much PC and Narrative in much of the content we see from Hollywood today about the past. I simply have decided to tune it all out, but the younger people no doubt watch this stuff and believe it actually happened the way it's presented.

@@dagsterblaster4973 That the fun about movies, it is all entertaiment not study. If you want to know the real story, go study

I think the food is rotten

Loveless at first, yes, but eventually Marie and Louis would grow to be very affectionate toward one another.

Whatever it meant - Marie Antoinette deserves the respect and attention of the audience.

It’s basically a re-imagining version of Napoleon

According to the movie. Another inaccuracy.

@@Ham-Man-Hammy actually, no. Many members of the crowd were interviewed after the execution. One man who saw it summed it up well “the jaded had courage” She met her fate much like the king. With dignity.

Are you seriously bringing up historical inaccuracies in this film? 😂

@@tobiasdenhollander3210just saying, like it says so on Wikipedia and for a real history fact that Napoleon really wasn't there

@@DaveFisher-cq2dr I know, but it was quite a joke from me because this whole movie is one big historical innaccuracy and it's funny you're focusing on one point.

Maybe because Ridley Scott doesn't give a sh## about historical accuracy. 🤷‍♂

@@Michael.96don't say that about Ridley Scott, maybe he just did it to be different

Its a movie

No mate, I asked Ridley about that. Apparently Napoleon caught the early morning flight to CDG, watched the execution and then flew back that afternoon. I wasn’t there but I guess Ridley might have been so well just have to take his word for it.🤪

The end of the day. The constitution is a piece of paper.

@@zdwade with these things called “Amendments” 😂 to update it as required to keep it relevant. Americans act like it was carved in stone by God.

​@bobbybinns379 You clearly do not understand the constitution at all lol though it sounds like you aren't American so I can hardly expect any better.

@@poling1990 so it’s a “choice” for all Americans to be armed to the teeth and for horrendous mass killings to continually occur as a result? I get that in 1776 it made sense for people of a new country to be armed with flintlock muskets that took about 30 seconds to reload… but machine guns?!

@@bobbybinns379not american, so your opinion is irrelevant

why dont they hire you to produce and direct movies......oh wait

@@IproPvP Do you want to invest in my project? It's called Napolaser: French Emperor vs Alien Emperor. I need 200 million dollars.

I’m still waiting for that movie portraying Julius Caesar invading Poland with panzers

Napoleon Bonaparte vs. Aliens would be the new Abraham Lincoln vs. Vampires lmao

Comparado a lo que hizo, es una bendición ese castigo

@@KatoSantanay que hizo según tu?

@@KatoSantana ¡Ella no hizo nada! ¡No intentes dar estereotipos que creas que son ciertos sobre ella, ya que se ha demostrado que son incorrectos!👎¡Además, nada de lo que ella pudo haber hecho se acerca a las cosas que le hicieron! ¡Quitándose a su hijo, abusando de él, acosándola de todas las formas imaginables una y otra vez! acusándola de incesto! todo esto es imperdonable e irredimible y ella nunca estuvo cerca de tanta maldad contra esa gente estúpida

100% agreed

I agree my friend but try to tell that to hard working people who pay taxes , starve and loosing family members. I am from Greece the very first country who rebel against the kings and set democracy. for the last 40 years since I was 6 years old I saw my country going downhill while taxes going uphill . Political scandals succeed one after the other like a barrel with no end while tax evasion has no end for the rich and the entrepreneurs . and above all that with out being asked with political debate -election as it was our given wright they open the borders for the immigrants to come in . Now after 31 years immigrants have assault rifles organized crime selling cocaine and other drugs they have prostitution trafficking and you see mothers sisters wives ending up as drug whores and that is not the end there is male prostitution as well and if you dare to speak you might be brainwashed in order to change your sexual preferences and at the end you are gonna get raped having ptsd and trying to restore your brain . I wasn't asked for that, now ask me if I would send people responsible in exile ( especially when it is well known that they have stolen money from the state waiting with passports on hand ready to flee) or in guillotine and I believe you already know what the answer will be. After I saw the movie in cinema I can't stop listening "Edith Piaf Le Ca Ira " and dreaming of better days.

En tant que français , la révolution française est une horreur absolue , les bolcheviques n'ont rien inventé, ils ont tout copié sur nous . La révolution française est une révolution bourgeoise bancaire et mobilière, intéressez vous a la loi Le Chapelier !! . Depuis que ce pays est républicain , ils n'y ont fait que des conneries !! , mis a part la séquence Gaullienne 58/ 68 . Napoléon n'a jamais été a la bastille a cette époque. Il est l'enfant de la révolution , mis a part son génie militaire et de planification et j'en passe , un génie !! , je lui reproche son côté carolingien a la charlemagne. Cette obsession délirante a faire un empire !! . Ce n'est pas français , les français ne savent pas faire !! Et les empires sont toujours voués a la chute . Waterloo signe la fin de la géopolitique française . Ils suivront la pax britanica comme des chiens !! . Guerre de crimée, 1er guerre mondiale . S'en suivra la pax americana, les politiques français ont trahit leur nation en léchant le cul des usa . Il n'y a que De Gaulle qui n'a pas trahit et qui au fond de lui était un monarchiste !! . Sarkozy est le grand traître , son fils spirituel macron est le pire du pire des traîtres. C'est une saloperie !! . Nous les vrais patriotes français reprendront ce pays , nous sortiront de l'union européenne, de l'euro et de l'otan et nous pratiqueront l'epuration aux traîtres de ces 50 dernières années.

Ive always wanted to go there.

Still it was a good guillotine scene. Well, good, innacurate is the world Let's just say it was a guillotine scene xd

But her grandniece will be! well, not exactly the main reason, but she will be the second Empress of French who by the way, abandons them in the merciful, forgiving and totally not humiliating hands of Russians and English, Prussians and...not that they didn't deserve it, she was actually kind to them for tolerating them for the amount of time she did

Tbh I don’t think that’s the problem. It’s how they went about telling the whole story and how they made Napolean look. I think maybe it could’ve used more of the battles and politics perhaps but certainly nothing needed to be cut imo. They just went about it wrong, portrayed things the wrong way and the acting and directing isn’t good to how it should be

@@protector_of_the_realms My approach is, there's no such thing as an unsalvageable movie with over 6 hours of processed material. People are gonna not like the movie because they don't want to like the movie. The goal is to make the movie as enjoyable for those who want to like it as possible. ;)

They almost lost Democracy for humanity for another thousand years. The French are terrible.

Or dead.

Rotten food. But also, she was executed a full four years after the start of the revolution in 1789, longer after she was alleged to have told them to eat cake. There wasn't constant famine in France the whole time, not even with France getting into war with all its neighbours around this point.

This movie is not historical acurate at all.

And she was beheaded at what is called today the "place de la concorde"

ok but she still went chop no life boom yes movie good lobotomy

it was also silent not a riot when she was hung

@@canadianbakin1304 She was not hung... omg...

Sorry they couldn't block off the place de la concorde for several days for filming and dress it up as 18th century France. I swear people nitpick the fuck out of this movie. The movie is an artistic impression not a history book.

​@@v.konings1222the french movie "La Révolution Française" did a far better job in the 80s... so why not Ridley with a much bigger budget?

Absolutely beautiful actress

@@Brookigetit Indeed

Well there’s wasn’t a priest with Marie Antoinette when she was executed. She was permitted a state approved Juror in her cell which she refused.

@bobhart1506 I know there are several versions of the Queen's final hours but, when at the library in Versailles I saw documents from 1793 which clearly read that a constitutional priest was assigned to hear her final confession. He sat by her in the cart, but she ignored him all the way to the scaffold

100% and she was sketched by Jacques David on the day, so we know exactly what she looked like, to counter Ridley Scott saying, “ExcUse mE m8, wERE yOu tHerE?”

So...what exactly is wrong with making small historical changes for the sake of improving the narrative? I watch documentaries for accuracy and historical Epics for the history inspired story.

Did they ever actually say in this scene that it was Marie Antoinette? Thousands of people, men and women, died this way.

@@poling1990 because it’s not marketed as game of thrones - it’s marketed as a biopic of a real person, which usually implies a high degree of accuracy. Look at Oppenheimer. It doesn’t matter that Gladiator wasn’t historically accurate because the main character was fictional.

​@@erikswanson5753 It's mentioned in the opening title sequence.

Because napoleon was nowhere near paris when queen marie antoinette was guillotined ....

movies should only ever be entertainment, otherwise a documentary or a book would be best suited to learning

I'd say that it isn't good for entertainment either

It s-u-c-k-s at entertainment too. Boring.

Literally the quickest death Ironic then the song is about hanging the aristocrats

Well she wasted a lot of money while people were starving and dying so... I understand them

@galahad1876 yea I agree but she could have easily escaped France in 1789 with her sisters in law Marie Josephine and Marie Therese or with the aunts of her husband Adélaïde and Victoire and spend a few years away in exile then in no time she would have been safely restored

Another thing that no realized while she was still queen and then imprisoned, that she was suffering from cancer in her uterus.

That’s where you’re wrong, if anyone in history deserved the fate they got it was her.

@@kingmonke4789 how do you figure? She was forced to be a child bride at 14 and she didn't determine any policies. Are you confusing her with Joan Of Arc...lol

@@donaldshotts4429 no but you’re attempting to excuse the fact that her lavish spending and conflicted relationship to Louis the 16th directly led to the collapse of French society. You are attempting to defend a woman who would wear hairstyles that would cost literal tens of thousands of dollars per hairstyle, per day, every day. That woman raped French finances

@@donaldshotts4429 not to mention her idiotic and ignorant handling of the revolutionaries led to her getting killed…

@@donaldshotts4429 KZfaq removed my comment. Her spending was awful. She would sometimes spend 10,000USD on 1 hairstyle that she would only wear once. She partied 24/7 she destroyed public perception of the monarchy and she wrecked French finances. Her influence over king Louis also DIRECTLY led to the revolution. And also, let’s not make the case that “ohhh my goood she was a chiiiild bride she must’ve lived such a sad life”, Louis was only 16 when they were married lol, and to me, that sounds like a very easy life

I love joaquin too but he is way too damn old to play a 24 year old napoleon ... theres only so much suspension of disbelief can do

Its a Ridley film, not a Kubrick.

I mean... on kristen dunst movie playing marie. the played "I want candy"... and had converse on scene.... it's just a movie

Marie Antoinette was executed in 1793, the background music of “An Ça ira” was written in 1790

La musique c est « ha ça ira » grande chanson révolutionnaire donc oui je la trouve super bien placé.

@@lhistoireendetail5832 Et elle était chantée de cette manière, au 18ème siècle?

ça ira - edith piaf

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mOClY5SYtJnUmWg.htmlsi=1p2-2wb5jfbNpXBj

When is execution not brutal?

@@JStamato i mean lethal injection is less gruesome than having your head chopped

@@predaplantuser2742 i agree with that but I would still argue it's brutal

it was actually a human improvement at the time. Guillotine is painless and quick. It's better than wheel execution, or the stake, or skinned or boiled alive. Or even hanging.

I secretly love that movie regardless of how much hate it got. I wish they would've shown them getting caught trying to escape France.