No worries at all; thanks for sharing these in-depth details and news about the actors! They should never have been rushed to finish such a beloved series because HOTD and GOT could have been shot and aired in between seasons of each other 🔥❤‍🔥🔥

No worries! Grateful for the video and you! Thank you and keep it up! Much love man ❤

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ever since they decided to portray the death of Ser Barristan Selmy {who is surely not dead in the books and instead rules the city of Meereen on Daenerys Targaryen's behalf when Daenerys Targ is adbucted by a band of Dothraki hordes}.

Ser Barristan even imprisoned Daenerys Targaryen's husband Hizdahr zo Loraq on the charges of treason against the *regnant Queen*

Exactly!!! And HBO and G.R.R. the creator ,wanted to keep going too. It literally makes no sense why they just didn't get new writers.

I agree with You Dan n Dave Should of been replaced

Fully agreed! They could have easily passed the torch to Ryan Condal and he would have made the effort to honour what GRRM has made.

The cast reading of that moment and seeing how they reacted to it was telling

Am I the only one who really hates that interview? That hysterical laughter from that interviewer somehow makes my blood boil! Am I missing some context or something? And, not that I wanna blame the interviewer for everything that went wrong with the show, that would be wildly unfair, but her behavior is, I think, emblematic of where the show went wrong. It became the equivalent, for a TV show, of a lazy Katy Perry/Harry Styles pop song, made for the 50% of the populace with an IQ below 100. People like that interviewer, who'd laugh hysterically at Emilia Clarke coming up with a goofy expression and a, well... rather unfunny sarcastic remark.

she had been in that role nearly her entire 20s. its such an insult to her work in the role. she literally had 2 aneurism's on the job.

lol- didn't secret invasion tank?

She's played Daenerys through a stroke, sick and all. Of course she was proud of playing Daenerys, and she put everything she had in her, she's expressed it several times. Idk how it comes as a surprise that Emilia hated the last season and was disheartened by the way they treated Daenerys at the end, she's said it for years, ever since the show ended. She's the one who faked throwing up when someone in an interview asked her what she thought about the final season, she's the one being like "best season eva!!!" sarcastically at red carpets, and she's the one who made interviews about how heartbroken and scared she was at the idea of fans hating Daenerys and considering her a genocidal maniac.

It was, they literally throw her character development to the trash, we don't need two mad queen's.

It was so many things. D & D apparently had literally zero understanding of the characters in a show they'd produced 6 seasons of.

Exactly. I always knew she would not have a good ending. I figured either her or Jon would die in the end of the series. They could have done so much with her ending, but they just rushed it and ruined it. They turned all the characters into caricatures of themselves. I get angry whenever I think about it. I'm just happy there is House of the Dragon and that is pretty good so far.

It was I hate how they made it seem like she was a tyrant but justifying Sansa and Arya doing what they did but they themselves said they felt uncomfortable about dany being cold about viserys death and that’s a foreshadowing she is mad. Plus they wanted to make a show about the confederates winning and felt bad for the slavers she killed speaks volumes to what they always thought of her after season one

Really it wasn't just Daenerys. It was also the Night King/White Walkers storyline, the Bran storyline, the Lannisters storyline, the Golden Company- I mean, everything. And you know they had nothing in their own universe to justify Daenerys turning mad when all they had to show as "previous signs" is... "well she wasn't sad when her abusive brother died!! and she killed slavers!! aren't... aren't you sad about the poow wittle slavers??? :((((" and Jon Snow litterally lying through his teeth like "I had to choose between my crown and saving the north, so I chose to bend the knee" when literally Daenerys swore her forces to help Jon BEFORE he "bent the knee". All that added to Samwell who didn't have any conversation with Daenerys ever saying "would she give up her crown to save the Kingdom??" as if it wasn't just what she did when she decided to ride north with her entire army, rather than going to KL to deal with Cersei yknow... 🤷‍♀ The way it's so inconsistently written, it's crazy. Daenerys on episode 4: *does exactly what Tyrion advises her to do, resulting in Missandei dying, because Tyrion's whole plan was literally a braindead plan* Tyrion on episode 5: "our Queen didn't listen to us!" HUH??? Out of the blue, after 7 seasons of plotting to bring Dany back to Westeros, Varys says "oh nooo the male heir is so much better!" even tho he's always plotted against Robert because he valued Robert as a bad king because "he didn't want the crown"... but Jon who has only this line - "I don't want it" - during s8 is all the sudden fit for the role *because he doesn't want it* ???? Not to mention all this debate on s7 about how Dany all the sudden wasn't really fit to become Queen because she supposedly can't have heir, and Tyrion got all worked up about that, but THEN on s8, oh Bran can't have heir?? PERFECT! All of this sounded like D&D were actually the ones who had a stroke and "kinda forgot" about their entire show (and that's me being nice, because me being not nice is me truly believing that D&D are two sexist fcks for pretending that a Queen killing her enemies is "crazy", wanting power is her being "genocidal" whereas idk Robb Stark running wild through the whole Kingdom for revenge was "a hero", and not being able to have heir is "a fault" but a quality in men??)

What happened to her on set?

​@@zakunick1She suffered two brain aneurysms within filming the first 3 seasons I believe and amazingly survived both without it affecting her mental function. True mother of dragons right there.

Nope. The aneurysm stook place outside of the set...the 1st time she was at the gym right after filming season 1. The 2nd was during the filming of season 2 or 3 (cant remember), not WHILST filming. 2 different things

Stop nitpicking, she was poorly…..have a heart mate, she soldiered on though

Yes and she said she really pushed on through those aneurysms because she was so honored and excited to play Dany and was terrified of being replaced. She kept it all a secret because of that as well and suffered in silence. Not even Jason Mamoa knew.

Facts, i wish George would of collabed with One Piece like he wanted too. Its crazy.

Dan and Dave liked it lol

It was divided in that some thought the basic plot was decent but the execution was horrible, while others thought it was awful in both respects.

Absolutely. No one in the entire planet with a functioning brain liked it. It was an objective and abject failure.

@@brucetucker4847 if everyone agrees the execution was horrible, then everyone agrees the final product was - horrible.

I get that impression, too. I was doubly surprised by Grey Worm and Gendry's actors, who were extremely critical very early after the show's finale aired.

For all the Americans out there, it's called irony, not insincerity. Every native speaker of the Queen's English knew exactly what she meant.

​@@stuarttaylor3642damn that's craazyyy

I was under the impression that they agreed with her.

Right up there with Sigourney telling us how scary Alien 3 would be.

Wish the fans were more respectful of Jack Gleeson, he did am amazing job. He was so hated in his role to bleed into real life ,unfortunately. Miss him

Yeah unfortunately that happens when you play a certain kind of character, people think you're actually like that. @@dastellarnapster1652

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I would kidnap her

"Emilia Clarke Disappointed by Game of Thrones Season 8" from 4 years ago. Then "Emilia Clarke Breaks Her Silence About The Infamous GoT Finale" 2 years ago. Exactly how many times can one break their silence?

@@_Feanor_. wow you sure have a lot of free time on your hands

Nobody cares, we all saw the video, you're adding nothing.

​​@@This_Is_Something don't be a c***

I mean she made it pretty obvious

Yep makes no sense whatsoever.

Also- WHY DOES THE NIGHTS WATCH STILL EXIST

@@ericvulgate There was no Night Watch, it was just a way to calm Grey Worm down. Jon joined the free folk.

meanwhile how many people got killed just because they refused to do exactly as Dany wanted or because she didnt wanna pay for those unsullied

And the unsullied not killing both of them for what they did.

What happened between D&D and GRRM? I only know about Martin findig 8 seasons too short for the Story (just like what he said in this video). Was there something else?

@@hermitray I'd believe it. They were frantically chasing those Disney Star Wars gigs and wanted to wrap things up. The spiteful side of me says I'm glad that fell through for them after people saw how shoddy they handled Season 8.

@@hermitray thank you! I heard this, too. But didnt know it was a Problem for Martin

@ca6585 I think it was creative differences after they ran out of source material. I think they just ran with it and stopped getting input from GRRM. He used to write episodes and be at all season premieres and comic con. He stopped doing all of that. I think D&D got cocky and took most of the credit for the success of the show. GRRM is a proud man, I think. So he didn't like the way D&D acted. Or he didn't like what they did with the show after they ran out of written material. But he is very involved in HotD, so i think he learned his lesson and put it in writing how much control he wanted.

Agreed. Also, GRRM was too classy to publicly decry the horrid final season.

It it isn’t so much that we expect happy endings just a satisfying closure. The entire season was of the characters acting entirely different than what we saw in the seven seasons prior, especially Tyrion. And Dani wiping out King’s Landing seemed odd as hell considering how she was always about defending innocents. Also…Golden Company REALLY got the short end of the stick!

Hahaha. You did the thing. "Foreshadowing is not character development". That's what the crybabies were saying after the show. So when dany said "when my dragons are grown I will burn cities to the ground" was that foreshadowing or character development? I'll explain the difference in real terms. When others were talking about her "Targaryens all go crazy" that is foreshadowing. When she's directly talking herself and saying what she wants to do, that's character development. Fyi that quote was the end of season 2. 8 years later you were shocked when she did exactly that.

​@@suzukisixk7 She also said she doesn't wish to be queen of the ashes and she wants to break the wheel, that she wants people to follow her per their own will, not as slaves forced to be there. Much of what was said, by her and others, implies that this ending was possible. But they needed to show that process over time, more organically. The way they did it was lazy and unsatisfying. Also, it's interesting how you are casting anyone who disagrees with you as a crybaby when you're the one acting butthurt over a difference of opinion.

Exactly

@@suzukisixk7 While the ending wasn't written particularly well, those folks claiming surprise are not being honest I think. Maybe even just jumping on a bandwagon of sorts. I've been saying her descent into madness has ALWAYS been in our faces from her first scene for years.

She kinda forgot she had a dragon

Daenerys herself said she should do that and they acted like it was a horrible idea that would make her just as bad as Cersei. Which is rediculous since the Red Keep was surrounded by water on 3 sides and was situated a safe distance from the rest of King's Landing. It would've been a contained fire, especially since every time they showed the inside of the castle it was mostly empty.

By that point she wasn't listening to advisors anyway because she didn't trust them anymore.

​@hybridbutterfly3908 what some of you fail to remember is that she brought almost everyone into the red keep so that Dany would have to kill civilians just to kill her.

Your expectations were subverted!

Yeah, pretty much. But John Bradley and Liam Cunningham are still working with D&D on The Three-Body Problem, so we'll never hear smack talk from those two unless there's a creative falling out.

@@TurquoiseStar17 I totally agree, John is such a sweetheart though so I doubt he would even speak his feelings.. Liam as well. Who knows 🤔 I do love both those actors!

Oh yeah that’s standard

Let's be honest, D&D wrote EVERYONE in Season 7-8 dirty. Cersei, Dany, the Night King and Jon got the worst of it though and they were arguably the most important characters. It's because of the whiplashing speed from big one scene to the next. No character was allowed to develop or have more than a few minutes of screen time. I agree with Cersei though. You can sum up her story in seasons 7-8 as mostly staring menacingly out of a window.

This is the problem. The Night King should have been the big baddie at the end. But instead it was some aging incestous harpie.

She was a great villain. She deserved a heroic ending!! Her weakness at the end was totally out of character.

Cersei: “i did not always look out a window during season 8! “ Cersei looks out the window….

I wrote a short piece called "The Eyes of Cersie Lannister." At least I made sure she got her proper and deserved comeuppance.

Whoa, where was this commentary?

damn that would have been a lot better

​@@carla8687dvd commentary. The Dragon Demands talked about this, too

@@carla8687 I think the season 8 DVD/Blu-Ray. I think The Dragon Demands has a video about it.

@@wadegittleson1317 Yeah. They had concept artwork for it.

Yeah, while everyone hated Dan and Dave, they really love the actors on the show. When the writing took a dip, they had to still show up and perform.

@@samf.s.7731 YES!! Even with the bad writing they ate!! Like Daenerys speach to the Unsullied and Dothraki... it´s hard to believe that Emilia was able to do such a performance, SHE IS PHENOMENAL!

I was literally going to buy all the seasons in blu ray, until season 8. Once the night king, who got hyped for 7 seasons died in 2 seconds, they completely lost me. 🤣

Season 7 was mediocre at best@@gernou92

Yea i don't really care about any interviews about the last season of which no one wants to even speak about anymore. HOTD is what i care about now. It's been great so far, i can only hope the people working on it got a good idea of what NOT to do with a show.

ok so you dont care, thanks for sharing. most of the people here do, thats why they clicked on it.

It's a case study in how to drop the ball so spectacularly that it retroactively ruins one of the biggest media properties of its decade. We can all learn something from it, it's like a Greek tragedy

It's vindication for all of the fans who felt shafted by what we got. That feeling has value

Contracts? Idk just a guess

After 4 years, I’m finally rewatching the series. Do yourself a favor and at least watch the first four seasons again. They’re so brilliant!

@@dereka5017 season 4 is my favorite!! When I used to go back and watch years ago I’d always go there😂

It's a fictional show... Makes sense to have some detachment and to not let it affect one that strongly.

Read the books.

@@flesruoYkcuFoGuoY I want to I just need to find the time. And by finding the time I mean not be lazy 😂

And I'm still furious.

And I'm still not over it...

And i still agree with Daenerys. She aint do shii wrong...justified for sure.

I wish there was enough collective will to punish HBO by refusing to watch their shows.

Well his script writing is pretty cringy the way he describes a certain scene in episode one

The thing is about the shock value stuff... It made sense that Geoffrey, an unhinged spoiled kid wouldn't listen to his mom and have Ned Stark whacked. It made sense for the red wedding to happen because some people in history were backstabbing douchebags.. With Aeries II, it's clear that he had Bipolar I, serious paranoid delusions, and some other excentricties that would lead me to believe "Oh, in the year of our Lord 2023 he'd be institutionalized and they would have given him a lot of Lithium before letting him out". He'd burned bridges with his best friend and his own son. Dany never had any of that, because *that* is so specific it's right out of the DSM.

They never explain why anyone would know that Jon killed her.

I feel like I was invited to a feast and given cold diarrhea on a wet paper plate.

Yah, this amazing show deserved more than just 4 seasons.

I hope HBO make an animated series completely book-accurate one day.

sure but im not very hopeful they will get the same amazing actors,the stars really aligned with this show when it came to actors,tywin,tirion,cersei etc,an animated series is proly better

When GRRM said 5 would survive til the end I truly believed the only Targaryen left would be one not the least of the 4 starks left. Yes Jon was a Targaryen not a stark but truth is he is a stark not really a Targaryen. Sansa should not of survived. Actually it would of been nice when she got so hateful and rude with Daenerys that Drogon would of showed some teeth and growled very loud and show her who she was.

Seeing pictures of Dany next to Dragons without having any idea what Game of Thrones was or what was going on was what got me into watching it all those years ago LOL Dany had this charisma & magic to her presence it was so surreal

Sansa literally won the battle of the bastards for Jon, wdym??? 😂😂😂

I agree about sansa. She didn't earn it. We didn't get to see her become the mini little finger/ cersei she should have become. There was no plotting on her end. Just telling us how smart she is without actually showing it.

​@@barbaraowen45 He's a Targaryen whether you like it or not. It's in his blood. There are many parallels between Jon scenes and daemon in the new show. That fire within him that comes out in battle is his father's blood. His parents were married therefore he's not a bastard.

If you want a 'good' ending try "The Shield" and "Justified." Both ended very well.

He gives me Palpatine vibes. The way ALL was happening just like he predicted 😨

Nahhh the creepiest line was when he said "Why do you think I came all this way?" When asked if he would accept the crown even tho previously he said he couldn't be lord of anything as the 3 eyed raven 😮

@@alexandregrand-pierre1981 yeah that too!

Snow series 2024/25/26...?🤔 (And main casting role..?) Any idea

@@alexandregrand-pierre1981 exactly! That situation where they made Bran King even though he said he couldnt be Lord of anything because he was the three eyed Raven pissed me off the most about the last season.

I love the woman so much

Ha!

Would have never watched last xmas if I didn't fall in luv with her acting skillz in got!!! And btw last xmas is pretty good and will hit ur heart if ya have one 😊

@@jeffennis256 Try out _Me Before You_

my favourite actress of all time. so versatile and never gets the praise her talent warrants.

Exactly I mean I’m not even a fan anymore of this universe but after reading the books I know Dany anit gonna go mad something about all this in S8 just screams to me undertones of sexism and they didnt want Dany to do better than her ancestors. But Ceresi already going mad.

Holy crap, I forgot about that throwaway thought on Aerys and Cersei. George doesn't do throwaways.😂 I have been totally convinced that Jamie and Cersei are the mad King's children and Tyrion is Tywin's only trueborn child. I saw this theory in a video and I can't let it go 😂😂😂 why else would Jamie go back to Cersei after finally getting with Brianne? He worked so hard to distance himself from Cersei, he wouldn't throw it all away. The man was a swordsman and even losing his dominant hand didn't stop him from progressing instead of regressing. I honestly believe he discovers that their father wasn't Tywin somehow, but George didn't tell D&D any of that, just that he died in King's Landing with his sister. So D&D played a shitty game of "Can You?" without the relevant information. And they just weren't creative enough to consider alternative motives.😂

she was rly bad early seasons,she barely got decent over time,acting isnt her forte for sure

GoT is a good series. Just remember it ends with season 7 or even six. Season 8 is so often contradicted by seasons 1-7 of proper GoT anyway that it is sane to argue it is not part of the same story.

George had actually said that there ought to be 13 seasons

@@Yajna007 really doesn’t matter it needed more season also more on the White Walker

@@markpjf85 known as *_Others_* in the novels

HBO was delusional about D&D, thinking people would stop watching if they replaced them. So ultimately its HBO's fault, they could easily have replaced D&D after season 6 or even season 7, among all shows, I think GOT was most likely one of the few who could make us wait few years for a new season

YES 💯

Thirty mins... lol. Not even close. Also, just literally changing those three things without improving the entire story structure and writing quality of the final two seasons would maybe bring it up from absolutely awful, to really bad.

Yes totally agree, and Jon take his rightful place as King!

That would help, but Matthias333 is closer to the truth.

This is exactly why this show is different and brilliant. It depicts the cruel reality and not the desires of the heart like the most tv lemonades

Sure, a lot of murder but that path would have given us more seasons who houses to betray one another, understand if Jon is the promised prince, created a new night king/queen, so much more. Instead, it ended with her death, Bran as king, and every house gathered around singing kumbaya

@@sudukohustler that's only if it had continued. It could have just ended with her on the iron throne looking smug, and ended at the exact same time.

Varys didn’t murder anyone

No, those white walkers ar no murderers, they killed people and then they reserect them...

​@@peterversiononeVarys turned the Mad King against Rhaegar, to spread chaos and install a Blackfyre in the throne. Read the books and you'll see he's just as bad as LF

⁠@@peterversionone Well he killed the warlock who he had in a crate who used him in a ritual as a boy but that was off screen.

Except they didn't. They ignored pretty much all of books 4 and 5.

GRRM doesn't intend for her to end up there, her arc leads north to a heroic self sacrifice to free the enslaved wights (not by being murdered as part of a disgusting blood magic ritual either btw).

They can made easly few more seasons with longer more episodes

Exactly all that build up for Arya to do it but it made no sense it was just fan service. Kit was even mad about that

F jon

Badass

And the fact they took an extra year to film the final season. Once I found out it was only 6 episodes, I thought they would make them like weekly 2 hour movies with all that time they made us wait 😤

Lets first hope the books become a reality.

He’s never finishing the book. Let it go.

Little Finger did have a trial what do you mean? Jon did too.

It's not really possible to have a trial. She was the Queen, had an army and a dragon. But she was mad so murdering her was definitely the thing to do morally speaking. What's funny though is that Emilia doesn't like the end because her character was murdered ? That's kind of hilarious since there was a lot of other reason to criticize the ending. Moreover, her character being murdered was actually a good ending and probably the ending of Martin.

HOTD is horrid to he time jumps are annoying, the actors are mid at best, the killed all the blk folks nearly, no one’s likable I mean get the Starks in or something, CGI on the dragons is cringe at best, the dragons have no personality, I mean if this is the best GRRM was gonna give us with his finished works let’s just ease up on D&D. But your entitled to your opinion I guess.

Stop acting amazed HBO has always had a track record of ruining shows. Sopranos, Rome, West World etc I can keep going with what they have ruined.

I'de rather watch KZfaq than any shite HBO produces

What makes no sense is drogon not burning him but burning the throne that’s massive plot armor

The only GOT characters more hated than Joffrey are the two Ds

It’s just sad they killed Varys who saw this and tried to warn Jon. That’s the part I always hated, and how Tyrion suddenly lost all his common sense, wisdom and ability to read through peoples bs…to becoming like some sheepless, mindless follower under Dany.

But D&D turned her into that…Dany wasn’t that at all

Daenerys said just ONE season before she didnt wanna be the Queen of Ashes so Im pretty sure she was disappointed that they wrote her into doing that seemingly out of nowhere. So Jon killing her was STILL some bullshit.

This. She’s just burned down an entire city, with hundreds of innocent people inside. But that’s ok? Sorry Emilia, I know you’re attached to Dany but she doesn’t get to walk away from that scot free. Also what a lot of people don’t mention is that while she was giving her big speech in Dothraki about conquering the world, after the burning of King’s Landing … Jon doesn’t understand what she’s saying until she mentions Winterfell … and he flinches, beginning to realise that she isn’t going to stop, that she’s planning to conquer the North as well … and what that means for the Starks, who he knows are not going to bow to her. So she’s threatening his family. He tried to get her to stop, but she proved she had no intention of doing so. He had no choice. He could have had her arrested, but in the end she had to be stopped.

@@missym877yeah she was. She’d been killing people since the beginning, we just didn’t mind because a lot of them were bad people. She didn’t suddenly turn from this gentle pacifist into a mad Queen, she’d been doing it all along.

Exactly but I heard she don’t wanna be on it no more

S8 was the worst of Quinn Martin. Up to S8 the only unnecessary thing was burning Shireen alive. I'm all for brutal surprises, but not that.

I disagree , season 8 writing looks like it was done by a MALEVOLENT toddler.