Optimizing Lilith - A Borderlands Guide

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SaoirseAE

7 жыл бұрын

Analyzing Lilith's skill tree.
Comment with any concerns or questions!

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@IronwolfXVI 7 жыл бұрын

I like the way you speak. The words you use. Your voice is clear and precise. Very good information and to the point where you seem to know more than most larger channels.

@TheRAMBO9191 5 жыл бұрын

@@saoirseae6584 old post and I'm new here but Def true you speak clear and precisely, and to the point. I'll be liking all your videos that I watch for sure.

@thecitrus1117 5 жыл бұрын

TheRAMBO9191 ayyy Game of the Year edition baby

@TheRAMBO9191 5 жыл бұрын

@@thecitrus1117 yep yep I just got done playing it for few hours. Good memories

@themagnus2919 5 жыл бұрын

Your last name is a gun manufacturing company in Borderlands...

@zyphos9444 5 жыл бұрын

@@saoirseae6584 These optimizing videos are excellent. Thanks for making them!

@rainygamedays5873 5 жыл бұрын

Anyone else couldn't wait for the remaster tomorrow and want to help a new Lilith on PC?

@kirasternenfeuer6198 5 жыл бұрын

Actually he make lots of mistakes I wouldn't recommend at all. Why going for the melee damage whe nyou can put that into firerate for example. Also instead of going full 5 points each time it would be much more wise to make it 4 and 1 for example to benefit from both skills (don't forget that you get bonus of youre classmods as well which only benefit if you have at least one point in that skill allready). Also for youre first playthrough there is no need to get youre phasewalk cooldown so low. so instead spend the points into youre offensive skills and of course those nice kill skill effects. You get faster moving and more xp, better bullet damage and a massive firedamage near you (but be careful those barrels arround you can easely explode and kil lyou while you kill an enemy and gian the effect). For weapons look for good smgs and a classmode that refills youre smg ammo while providing bonus damage to smgs. Best would be a legendary smg with that effect and they are not that hard to get either (found 2 in my first playthrough) If you find a fast firing pistol or really good assaultrifle with high clipsize and good firerate and damage it is also worth to stick with. Thats basically everything you have to know. Later on don't make the melee mistake he does in his vid here melee is never the best option unless you really want to play a melee character. Otherwise concentrate on elemental and weapon buffs and youre surviveability instead. Allways remember the strongest enemy attacks are melee attacks!!! A Psycho can harm you for at least full shield and 70% health with only one attack when he is at youre level in midgame. When you are willing to handle the General Knoxx DLC and you get to the point where you should kill the 2 Ltn. for Athena the 2nd one drops a very strong non elemental smg with ricochet effect and a bulletswarm effect that is quite accurate the first one by the way drops an explosive sniper rifle with health transfusion effect. Both weapons come in handy if you go for the underdome dlc . The firehawk legendary pistol is also a nice addition if you get youre hands on a suitable one.

@BlazeLibra 5 жыл бұрын

@@kirasternenfeuer6198 Why? *Because it's fun*

@treymtz 5 жыл бұрын

@@kirasternenfeuer6198 Because melee is more fun and more dps is pretty plain Jane

@melodyseverything6999 4 жыл бұрын

@@BlazeLibra @treymtz - That's subjective. I never liked melee and only did it if I couldn't kill them from a distance and they got too close.

@michaelu2572 7 жыл бұрын

You have made the best class videos on KZfaq. Most intelligent and helpful. You give actual stats, helpful tips, etc. Thanks so much c:

@Greyslayer76 6 жыл бұрын

Not only the most informative by far, but his sense of humor is awesome. A real shame he only did 4.

@ziggyzigz 5 жыл бұрын

Borderlands 1 is back so you need to come back please

@davidwaynemain 11 ай бұрын

It's back again. Movies and 5$ GOTY edition. Yayyyy

@errric1176 6 жыл бұрын

I really like how thorough you are with each talent, and breaking them down, in all of your guides. it seems like there aren't enough of us min-maxers out there anymore. Knowing whats multiplicitve, and additive damage increases, and specific durations of buffs / debuffs is super important, and im glad you cover this kind of material. You show a lot of quality in your videos and was actually surprised to see you only have 4 videos though!. i hope to see some gameplay or other game guides from you in the future. even if i dont play them, you're someone i'd watch to see how you break things down for maximum benifit.

@SheyD78 4 жыл бұрын

I may never play borderlands (1) again, but this video was fantastic. The snarc, the feels, the humour all add up to a truly enjoyable watch. If you've ever played borderlands sit back and watch this and I know there'll be another like at the end. Glhf peoples.

@donnyduhgamer5927 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this guide. Hopefully you return to KZfaq in the future. This guide has helped me so much.

@ridleyy998 5 жыл бұрын

This guy definitely sees Lilith as his waifu, nothing bad about that but Brick is the prettiest siren :P

@Murgablodazor69 5 жыл бұрын

Ok now after long years i decided to go gay because of Brick

@Acheron-IX Ай бұрын

@@Murgablodazor69character development

@MegaTroubleII 5 жыл бұрын

You honestly seem to know more about the game mechanics than VinylicPuma lmao This video is way better than his BL1 videos

@LastAphelion 5 жыл бұрын

"ThIs Is A vInYlIc PuMa ViDeO... bY VyNyLiC PuMa" *inhale*

@NZAnimeManga 5 жыл бұрын

@lgd661 ^this. The guy is an idiot.

@filounderstover 6 жыл бұрын

Really good videos,I also watched your guide on brick and I love how you talk and describe the skills and how effective they are.If they are good or badass you make it understand so well,really good job! :3

@MrWulfgardt 7 жыл бұрын

Yet another fantastic guide for this great game,job well done mate.

@neighborhoodkids2000 5 жыл бұрын

Fantastic info man you really knocked it out of the park I never played Lilith growing up because I never understood how powerful she could be even though I heard people loved playing her. Thanks for making a long time question clear! 10/10

@monnishp 2 жыл бұрын

I lost it at "Winergy". Hilarious and informative. I seriously wish you made a lot more content, man.

@majorhealey3194 5 жыл бұрын

GREAT INFO! Lilith is the character I know the least so I appreciate your time and insight. I'll definitely know how to build her skill tree better after your descriptions. Thanks again!

@FeFePuffz 5 жыл бұрын

Back here for a refresher now that the remaster is here.

@Roge9 5 жыл бұрын

wow just recently discovered this videos. Good stuff. I also notice these are pretty much your only videos, did you plan on doing stuff like this for borderlands 2 + pre-sequel?

@joannafinzel4632 6 жыл бұрын

Liliuth was my favorite from the get-go, great job!!!

@SomsaiArts Жыл бұрын

Was looking for a good breakdown of abilities and what works best near end game. Very informative! Thank you!

@BotMechanic 6 жыл бұрын

Very very good. This is so helpful. Instant sub, couldint believe you dont already have more

@lazarjanii 6 жыл бұрын

This is a very good guide! Explained nicely. Good work!

@spyrothedragon3431 5 жыл бұрын

Great content man, you speak well, id like to see more videos from you for borderlands 1 remaster, this Chanel could be huge with borderlands 3 content

@CadusBane 4 жыл бұрын

Liked and subbed. Been playing since 2012, on PS3, last year on PS4 with the remastered, and just started with Switch this week. Because Borderlands is tied as my top favorite game series had to sub and say thank you. Also I’d never done a Lilith play through till this week. Going to load up make few changes, I was pretty close though. Also always loved the SMG’s with x4 damage, always my boss killers. Really missed them in the following series. Can tell they thought were OP. Because I’ve never seen one in 2-Pre-3 ever.

@kupokinzyt 4 жыл бұрын

So very helpful! Wow I wish I had these videos years ago when I played on my ps3! Thank you for the deep explanation, I just got the enhanced version and plan to follow this exactly :)

@iaincrawford8004 11 күн бұрын

Very thorough and superb video. It gave me plenty of better ideas for playing as lillith. Thank you

@josephbrown82 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this, Lilith and Roland are my favorite Borderlands 1 characters, I've been looking to learn more about how to build them more effectively.

@shakkkk100 2 жыл бұрын

I literally just watch his videos because I enjoy the commentary and his explaination.

@kizmo2317 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. Just got BL1 GOTY and found you. It appears you are the Derch of BL1, but way more succinct. Subbed.

@timeloner421 5 жыл бұрын

thanks started the upgrades Bl 1 i believe these information would still stand today !

@amishtechwizard5540 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this man, truly. Lilith is incredibly fun to play. I find Brick more enjoyable, kind of echoing my switch from Sal to Krieg.

@nogard210 5 жыл бұрын

The Official Knockoff I literally was the same. In bl1 I played brick and punched through the game. In 2 I first maxed sal but Kreig is my main.

@alan14ac70 7 жыл бұрын

I play siren so thanks so much for this guide I'm new around borderlands community! And this game is awesome!

@mitchthatoneguy2744 7 жыл бұрын

what you play on?

@rolandpersson12345 5 жыл бұрын

Best Boderlands class guides on youtube right here, wish you would do the same for Borderlands 2!

@nicktheninja3166 7 жыл бұрын

continue to make these badass vids, I do miss the "great, sssolid, goodish and terrible" system you had though :p

@nicktheninja3166 7 жыл бұрын

also 130-69 would leave you with 61 skill points not 51, so I thing you over specked in the build...

@teshin626 7 жыл бұрын

NickThe Ninja just Drop girl power and your Golden

@AWanderingHuman Жыл бұрын

This was such an awesome insightful video, if you end up coming back I'll be here

@ChibiDeadPool 7 жыл бұрын

I'm playing borderlands Classic again so much childhood memories from this game. Great Video btw hope too see you grow

@davidsprouse1697 6 жыл бұрын

whats borderlands classic

@josephineteagle3616 7 жыл бұрын

I have played as Roland and wanted to try Lilith for my 2nd playthrough as I love the Borderland games. I have just started, now at (Level 7.) This is a great video, lots of helpful info so I am looking forward to playing her. Keep up the good work and looking forward to more of your videos!

@yagufriz1373 6 жыл бұрын

well we went the same route my friend, i played to level 69 on roland and now i'm level 30 on lilith

@dougmedina4619 6 жыл бұрын

Same here.The learning curve is much easier with Lilith!

@LittleDinoDaniel 6 жыл бұрын

"this skill makes the game so easy it's like taking candy from a drunk skag IF YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN hehehe" Had to sub after that lmao

@AkiSan0 2 жыл бұрын

i love how many people have different builds and value the skills differently. that means this is a pretty well balanced game for most parts. if skills feel equally valuable thats when you hit the jackpot. for my personal favorites: 1) intuition - by far the best skill. not bc of combat, but bc of faster looting. this accelerates (in combo with phase walk) the armory runs SO MUCH. it is like a 4x multiplier on getting pearls. 2) girl power - i have a perfect ironclad build with a intuiton/girlpower (catalyst) com. once you kill, you dont die. period. i regen more shield than 99% of the enemies can deal as damage to me. unless i get crowded, this is MORE OP than #3 because the damage absorption is even higher. 3) silent resolve. as he said: get a max phasewalk build and you are ultra hard to kill. in combo with #2 you are. the most dangerous thing will be knockback and going out of bounds at that point. but only #3 bc as said, girl power can make the difference between taking damage and taking no damage. for weapons: 1) defiler - this is FAR stronger than people think. not only do you get a spreading damage boost, it hits insanely hard and is accurate af. 2) anarchy - just because i dont want the lamo smg to be #2. 3) perfect ajax ogre - pure damage, insane accuracy, insane DPS. 4) probably penetrator? hm.. nah the wrath? i think they hit even harder.. yeah i think sniper lilith is insane as well. bessy is nice for craw, but not as versatile. 5) i dont think it is S tier but i have to put it here. hellfire. it is near infinite stacking fire damage. it is single target though. and it takes time. i have a MUCH higher kill rate with the defiler than this. more kills = more damage & more invulnerability.

@sylvainalain6637 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video:) I’m at level 27 and I building my character based on your explanations. Thanks for this very interesting video.

@ChrisPBacon-xn9up 7 жыл бұрын

You've got yourself a new subscriber! :D

@AkiSan0 5 жыл бұрын

Lets hope you blow up when bl3 comes out, really well made guide. :) two small things: the smacking sound might be disturbing to some people, might wanna work on that and (at least for me) some times the energy you put into you words is a little bit too much. For example the "optimizing" in the beginning. (as you might think, im not a fan of the screaming VPG which is quite similiar to that exclamation). Else: you have a enjoyable voice and "character, your guide is easy to follow and you get to the point with your explanations and reasoning. keep it going and you will blow up for sure! :)

@dungeonkeeper42 2 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@eballz9391 7 жыл бұрын

Great video man got a new sub!

@JohnSmith-td7hd 6 жыл бұрын

I love the way you talk. Checking out your other videos now....

@MaxAce20 5 жыл бұрын

I’m about to co-op bl1 with a friend for the first time, never played before, very useful video!

@cv6531 2 жыл бұрын

phoenix also synergizes very well with sledge's shotgun while leveling. sometimes you shoot 2 shots, sometimes 6. and everything In between.

@HexenStar Жыл бұрын

An excellent guide! Especially the point regarding the four basic surviveability skills for Lilith. Right on the money. I think, every competent guide should address survival build and tactics, in parallel with DPS-oriented skills. One thing i'd like to add, is that the "Spark" skill is more potent than it might seem, even though it shines more in the second playthrough. Combined with a good mercenary class mod (boosting both SMG damage and its elemental chance) and a high-end elemental SMG (incendiary in particular) - renders Lilith pretty much unstoppable. This combo can go through all sorts of enemies like they are nothing, second playthrough and on. Even as far as taking various enemies out with a single SMG bullet. Class mods that boost Ignite effect damage - are a very close runner-up. Fast-reloading revolver with fire damage - can take serious advantage of such class mod and make Mordecai jealous. Or combining both setups, and switching them if the enemies get closer.

@malkaviangrin9440 6 жыл бұрын

Finally doing a run with Lilith all these years later. Never really understood why Phasewalk was great until now. Thanks much!

@LvLocks1915 6 жыл бұрын

Phobos BlackSunset after hearing about how OP Lilith was in this game I went back and used this build and jfc its great she is a perfect character lol.

@clap-trap9038 6 жыл бұрын

Maya's Phasewalk: Beta Zer0's Deception, with that skill that makes your Decoy explode dealing shock damage to nearby enemies on the end of the skill.

@RoanRetro 5 жыл бұрын

The name is Lilith, not Maya. Maya has a Phaselock.

@cheesentuna 5 жыл бұрын

What's the source for the artwork in the thumbnail? It's adorable!

@howardlam6181 5 жыл бұрын

REMASTER for free next week

@massivegat5087 5 жыл бұрын

SO FUCKING HYPED!

@massivegat5087 5 жыл бұрын

@@illuminatedzach4206 If you happen to be on PC and own the original Borderlands on Steam, you will be granted the GOTY Edition (The Remaster) for free. So what you could do is buy the original Borderlands if you don't already own it on PC and get the remastered version for free. Otherwise the Remaster costs a rumored $30. Sadly, on console you will still have to buy the Remaster but $30 isn't a whole lot.

@howardlam6181 5 жыл бұрын

@@massivegat5087 You don't even need to pay for the DLC to get the remaster.

@massivegat5087 5 жыл бұрын

@@howardlam6181 Yup. So cool

@Jrock3891 5 жыл бұрын

i got my copy on ps4 , tooo ready to rock.

@flav2490 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video! You got any plans to make these guides for the newer Borderlands games?

@Excal123 5 жыл бұрын

having a blast with my free copy of borderlands remastered!

@The_Pariah 3 жыл бұрын

Just for the record, 1 point into mind games is just plain smart. You put soooooo many rounds down range with SMGs that a 5% proc chance is going to happen every other set of bursts. Double anarchy will be procing a daze every trigger pull. For 1 single point. Then move to the next skill tree. :)

@DrDuckDockin 7 жыл бұрын

Subbed. Can't wait to go back to borderlands 1. I've never been Lilith before

@sub-zero286 Жыл бұрын

I really wish you'd do some videos on BL2, BL-TPS and BL3. I just love how you explain things, you're like if Handsome Jack and Tina had a kid...it's awesome

@adamthemute 3 жыл бұрын

I'm short 6 points to have your build. Since you added it last, would you take out 5/5 Slayer and one point from somewhere else to get the last point in Intuition and 5/5 Phoenix?

@zeinbergess3605 7 жыл бұрын

Wow I was doing this pretty slow picking up abilities, here & there. Next time I'm going straight through to "Quick sliver" then "Spark" then "intuition" then "Phoenix" then "Daze" then "Slayer" then "Diva" then "Girl Power" then "Hard to get" once full remove "Daze" & apply points to "Mind Games" you're lv46 then "Inner Glow" follow "hit & run" then "High velocity" "Silent resolve" putting you at lv 66 & put the final 3 In "Resilience". My play style is Shotgun, Sniper, Smg &, Automatic Pistol. With doe's beautiful Health transfer Grenades. Thanks for the video man.

@vik8126 6 жыл бұрын

As a kid who just got BL1 after two years of BL2 this is actually really cool. I really like old games

@Deeplycloseted435 4 жыл бұрын

Gawd I miss the Borderlands 1 music, which along with the look of the game, created such a desolate and isolated feeling.

@rdu239 5 жыл бұрын

I initially disliked phasewalk, until I realized it is not an offensive action skill to begin with

@Old_Man_Medina_Gaming 2 жыл бұрын

Good video !

@jamesworkshop9181 5 жыл бұрын

Defiler revolvers are amazing, they get a 15% damage boost so they are as powerful as a Jakobs revolver but with Corrosion added on top.

@masonime 7 жыл бұрын

great video

@dutyfreeadventures5924 Жыл бұрын

Jesus. Why'd you stip doing videos. You're incredibly good at this i was very disappointed to see you only had 4 videos up

@tnyeh 2 жыл бұрын

Those other skills you mentioned after the elemental skills for the second build you mention here, are those skills you add after getting Phoenix?

@Realgigclin 2 жыл бұрын

I like radiance, the DOT effect lasts extremely long. So the damage is pretty bad but it seriously lasts a good 20 seconds or more. If u dot an enemy with it and forget him to fight other enemies, that original enemy will basically be at half health and still will be taking damage when u return to him.

@TyrantRE Жыл бұрын

I never use it for the simple fact that if you get close to a tankenstein in the zombie island dlc, the shock damage will heal him.

@Realgigclin Жыл бұрын

@@TyrantRE yeah i always respec for that DLC, or until i get to that DLC then i just play the game without it on anymore. Still does good work in regular game

@icecolditachi3304 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot

@saraluz77 5 жыл бұрын

You helped me a lot thank you

@lunarvania8073 4 жыл бұрын

Just started my virgin playthrough! Ive owned The Handsome Jack Collection but when I heard they were remastering the og I just had to start from the beginning, I prefer playing solo and ironically I picked Lilith and am really liking her!

@littlej211 5 жыл бұрын

Really good guide but you count the skill points wrong in your first build

@flappospammo 5 жыл бұрын

excellent stuff

@BlazeLibra 5 жыл бұрын

By the way, a class mod with + 4 to "Hard To Get" is impossible, that ability doesn't appear on Lilith's classmods according to the wiki.

@dru4111 5 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, My Girl Lilith, absolutely my favourite character in Borderlands 1 no question.

@Custnam 5 жыл бұрын

Im playing my first Lilith on the recent PS4 version and took Phoenix. But it would always get in the way of my reticle for scoped weapons. Anyone else notice this?

@galacticfederationambassad4063 6 жыл бұрын

props 4 keeping it alive *sips juice box quietly >.>*

@Resjek 5 жыл бұрын

Right?

@SeanSnyder1993 7 жыл бұрын

Ah, looked at the weapons! Well, that's good. Now, for my usual question: COMs and Shield. And also, if you have 130 total skill points, 130-69=61. So you were done after the third point into Phoenix for the first part. Great video! I look forward the Phasewalk/Phase Strike/Phasewalk combo. Just ghosting through the game. Might try that out next.

@tylerthecalculator810 5 жыл бұрын

Im using striking, you can stun Bosses which extramly usefull after Phasewalk.

@unclenich 7 жыл бұрын

I can't believed I missed this vid!

@tnyeh 2 жыл бұрын

Does Phoenix add to using incendiary weapons in the game?

@benzi1521 5 жыл бұрын

This was stupid helpful dude thanks

@itzMoTioNZ95 5 жыл бұрын

You should make more vids cause they are really good, you would become popular I know it

@jamesparrish3673 5 жыл бұрын

Why doesn't the bonus points in the class mod not work in the skill trees?

@tnyeh 2 жыл бұрын

Are those few skills you mentioned to get Phoenix actually the only skills you need for the build???.

@Redstripe921 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic!

@armyofninjas9055 Жыл бұрын

Great. Playing BL1 as Lilith and it's been a while lol.

@andrewmcpeters74 5 жыл бұрын

Rn I'm leveling first play through and I use shotguns mainly cause of phasewalk. Most have a melee boost so I'll shoot melee shoot if they charge me. the melee will usually knock back the smaller things for the final shot. Edit: I'm lvl 16 starting middle tree.

@GreatLordJason 6 жыл бұрын

Great video. I didn't know about the Silent Resolve time limit. After many years, it is making me rethink my build.

@KibouNoPhantom 6 жыл бұрын

You used 71 skill points,which 2 skill points i can remove from this build? Phoenix 3/5?

@Tacomaholic 5 жыл бұрын

Good stuff. I had no idea you can get a critical strike with a melee.

@mackenziehunter1755 5 жыл бұрын

Love that trogdor reference

@Redstripe921 7 жыл бұрын

I'm a newbie at BL so this is good. I will try this build out on my lvl 41 siren. ^^

@Redstripe921 7 жыл бұрын

I tried it out, but the melee build doesnt seem to be doing enough dmg really? Especially when playing in a team.

@justinbryant9300 6 жыл бұрын

So, if you had to take away four skill points from this build (The two extra points at the end and two more), what would you remove?

@SeargentFirestone 7 жыл бұрын

Wow, me and two friends were just thinking about starting a Borderlands run again (after beating 600 hours into Borderlands 2). Seems like the community is still quite alive.

@ethanvicari2938 7 жыл бұрын

Lance Flare stop

@ChrisPBacon-xn9up 7 жыл бұрын

Fist The Clit Lol

@MrRaui 7 жыл бұрын

Wait so how does Silent Resolve work with Class mods? It's 70% damage reduction maxed out normally but the class mod I have gives +4 to it Edit: Looking at the borderlands wiki reveals that it's not the same as what the tool tip would have you believe. Seems they've changed it over the years so now it's 50% damage resistance per rank. Also I wanted to point out that similarly to Brick's Unbreakable, Girl Power won't work while Lilith is Phasewalking.

@Forty2de 5 жыл бұрын

Take 3 points in Mind Games. No need for 25% daze chance with an SMG, 15% will do and it's awesome.

@rayhorner2796 6 жыл бұрын

lol you a funny dude. keep up the fun work :)

@JRC9968 5 жыл бұрын

I know this is for solo play but with a team mind games even with just a few points is op in both pve but more importantly pvp because it does so much against other players

@GrimdarkCrusader20th 6 жыл бұрын

Defiler and hellfire with an elemental class mod + fast health regen shield on Lilith, god mod activated

@westlunsford7886 7 жыл бұрын

You should do a play through of blands one or maybe characters from blands two

@n1vr132 6 жыл бұрын

Can I ask what class mod lessens the cooldown of PhaseWalk even more?

@BiasedGuy123 5 жыл бұрын

Catalyst. It doesn't increase Hard To Get, but it reduces the cooldown of the entire team. So single player? It's pretty good. Multiplayer? More Berserking (if that's even possible), more Roland turrets, all that good stuff.