Origins of 3D Pinball Space Cadet: Only a Demo?

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LGR

7 жыл бұрын

Most everyone knows Space Cadet from Windows XP, but did you know there were two more tables that went alongside it? Enter Full Tilt! Pinball by Cinematronics and Maxis!
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Music used is from the Full Tilt! Pinball MIDI soundtrack.

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@TheAmbientWarrior
@TheAmbientWarrior 6 жыл бұрын
You know your marketing strategy failed when an entire generation was raised playing your demo without realizing it was a demo.
@roderik1990
@roderik1990 5 жыл бұрын
AFAIK in winrar's case, that was intended. Makes people rely on it, so they can charge the businesses that want to use it. Or something along those lines.
@bigshrekhorner
@bigshrekhorner 5 жыл бұрын
@powerChriZ Tallywort is right, WinRAR relies on people using the software for free
@sparkplug8763
@sparkplug8763 5 жыл бұрын
@@bigshrekhorner yup, there was a yt video in my recommended about it's infinite day trial.
@bojeppe6828
@bojeppe6828 5 жыл бұрын
Ambient Relaxation haha i know They most be proud
@xdeathcon
@xdeathcon 5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching that... I don't see why people don't just use 7zip
@zcrib3
@zcrib3 7 жыл бұрын
It is like finding out that Minesweeper had a story mode.
@mogyesz9
@mogyesz9 5 жыл бұрын
The next thing someone will tell us that the you could actually control the screensaver maze.
@gtr500able
@gtr500able 5 жыл бұрын
Wat
@johanneshaukanes4531
@johanneshaukanes4531 5 жыл бұрын
@@mogyesz9 That would be sick! Always wanted to play that maze game.
@Relysis
@Relysis 5 жыл бұрын
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@evanpeartree
@evanpeartree 5 жыл бұрын
Calculator had a pretty good campaign mode but it was overshadowed by all the Notepad DLC
@aliumma7528
@aliumma7528 4 жыл бұрын
“In 1995, this was pretty awesome stuff” When I was at school in 2005, it was still awesome stuff
@Tristin471
@Tristin471 Ай бұрын
In 2024, it’s still awesome stuff.
@DavesGarage
@DavesGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I wrote this. Back in 1995, approximately. I used the art from the Maxis/Cinematronics game and some of the logic but a lot of the original game was in ASM and because I was in NT at the time, anything I did had to run on PowerPC, MIPS, Alpha, and x86. So I ported/rewrote the game from scratch which is why it's different than the Maxis games. There were other tables indeed (Skullduggery comes to mind) but I didn't have the art for anything other than this table, so it's all I did. I was writing Task Manager at home about the same time, then switched and TM became my day job for a few weeks (months?) while Space Cadet went on the back burner, but then I got it all in in time for the beta. As I recall the exec, Jim Allchin, was very supportive of the effort because he wanted something "cool" to showcase NT 4.
@AaronShenghao
@AaronShenghao 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for introduce millions of people to computer gaming.
@bradysanchez-baer1923
@bradysanchez-baer1923 3 жыл бұрын
Not even gonna lie I didn’t believe you until I did my research. You sir are a legend. Thank you for making the first pc game I ever played along with Task Manager.
@rJayisawesome
@rJayisawesome 3 жыл бұрын
LGR should pin your comment.
@zeruty
@zeruty 2 жыл бұрын
Clint, please collab with this guy!
@matheustran8009
@matheustran8009 2 жыл бұрын
You’re a legend!
@TrunksWD
@TrunksWD 7 жыл бұрын
Wait. The game was just a demo? I spent hours playing a demo? Well worth it.
@vidzak99
@vidzak99 5 жыл бұрын
Well not really
@rick25810
@rick25810 5 жыл бұрын
They should sell the full version on Steam, I know I would buy it if the price isn't expensive.
@pyeltd.5457
@pyeltd.5457 4 жыл бұрын
Because you had no idea.
@pyeltd.5457
@pyeltd.5457 4 жыл бұрын
rick25810 dose not exist.
@NUGGETWOOOOOOOOYEAAAHH
@NUGGETWOOOOOOOOYEAAAHH 4 жыл бұрын
rick25810 i'd buy it if it was under $20 or if it was free
@CommaV9414
@CommaV9414 7 жыл бұрын
There's more to Space Cadet!? Dude you just blew my fucking mind. I needed to catch my breath after hearing that.
@MeniscusKing
@MeniscusKing 7 жыл бұрын
It's very rare I get 30 seconds into a video and have that happen, but this did it.
@danielbakergill
@danielbakergill 7 жыл бұрын
This game was used as a reward in my 4th grade class. I don't remember the specifics, but if we did well enough on daily work, we would be given an automatic 100 for test-grade and be allowed to play this instead. Lots of students earned this right and there was a long waiting list.
@winlover37
@winlover37 4 жыл бұрын
Now that's motivation. Kudos to that teacher!
@thechurchofdiscountdan7436
@thechurchofdiscountdan7436 4 жыл бұрын
I used to play this game at my Grandparents. Everyone in the family was on the scoreboard and I think my Grandmother got tired of people 1-uping her high score. So one day to settle the matter she absolutely skunked this game. She got some ridiculous score that added up to hours of unbroken play time lol she was undefeated
@KazzArie
@KazzArie 4 жыл бұрын
The roe Team go, grandma!! 😂👍🏼
@josephsanders8921
@josephsanders8921 4 жыл бұрын
Probably my best memories with my grandpa was going back and forth trying to beat the others high score.
@KazzArie
@KazzArie 4 жыл бұрын
Joseph Sanders was it often you passed him?
@josephsanders8921
@josephsanders8921 4 жыл бұрын
@@KazzArie Maaaybe once a week, but he would have a new high score by the next day most of the time.
@zsin128
@zsin128 3 жыл бұрын
Gamer grandma
@thefriendlywardrobe
@thefriendlywardrobe 7 жыл бұрын
That little information window at 1:45 is such a cool editing touch. Way better than an annotation.
@LGR
@LGR 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@3dnobody
@3dnobody 7 жыл бұрын
I was just about to say the same thing!! kinda wish it had a mouse come on screen to x it out.
@SajuGraphics
@SajuGraphics 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@DaltonUber
@DaltonUber 7 жыл бұрын
If you quickly type "hidden test" as the game table boots up you can drag the pinball around with the mouse
@foxtrot7557
@foxtrot7557 5 жыл бұрын
I did this so much back in the day. So much 9,999,999,999,999 score!
@hrgwea
@hrgwea 5 жыл бұрын
Why did I never know about this!!!!
@Mikey-ym6ok
@Mikey-ym6ok 5 жыл бұрын
@@hrgwea how could you?
@mediafreak5923
@mediafreak5923 5 жыл бұрын
hidden [space] test
@floyd9572
@floyd9572 5 жыл бұрын
Never knew about that. Just tried it. It was epic.
@juntistik
@juntistik 7 жыл бұрын
I beta tested this game in Texas way back when.
@juntistik
@juntistik 7 жыл бұрын
I wasn't trying to impress anyone. I was merely reminiscing which is the point of this video.
@portadordenanismo
@portadordenanismo 7 жыл бұрын
I dont think he was being sarcastic. This game is a legend and probably one of the most popular games by copies ever. People in all continents have played this, regardless of social class, race or religion.
@sm00thgames63
@sm00thgames63 6 жыл бұрын
i liked every comment in this post because everyone is right, even when someone was wrong that someone was also right in some regards lol
@keyransolo
@keyransolo 7 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I thought I was playing the full game back in the day. The fact there's an ACTUAL full version of this blows my mind.
@AimlessSavant
@AimlessSavant 7 жыл бұрын
oh my god, my childhood.
@FlintG
@FlintG 7 жыл бұрын
I played the shit out of this game along with crystal caliburn.
@userjoao
@userjoao 7 жыл бұрын
Mine as well
@DarkKnightTrinity
@DarkKnightTrinity 7 жыл бұрын
I remember being at my grandparents house and they had dial up internet, and I would just sit on their computer and play this and civ2, though civ2 was a bit advanced for my 10 year old mind without guides and instructions back then.
@benjaws5263
@benjaws5263 7 жыл бұрын
yup ruined childhood
@IAmCaligvla
@IAmCaligvla 7 жыл бұрын
Played this so much on my school's computer lab back in the day. Good times.
@SketchyMane
@SketchyMane 7 жыл бұрын
"This version is only a demo for the true Space Cadet!" Too bad! The "demo" will always hold a special place in our hearts and be recognized as the TRUE Space Cadet!
@LUNITICWILL
@LUNITICWILL 5 жыл бұрын
for it was the TRUE Cadet......I'll see myself out
@rey4874
@rey4874 5 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia
@IronicHavoc
@IronicHavoc 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like you're saying that in a prideful way but that really does suck for the people who made it.
@mcmh9523
@mcmh9523 5 жыл бұрын
True, Space Cadet is not complete without the smiling feller in the spaceship.
@hamedalzarooni442
@hamedalzarooni442 4 жыл бұрын
@@LUNITICWILL Yes I get it. Congratulations. Someone got it. Don't know what to say
@neojeets
@neojeets 7 жыл бұрын
Jesus, the memories. Forget solitaire, Space Cadet is where it's at.
@arthas640
@arthas640 6 жыл бұрын
I briefly worked in an office that due to running specialty programs, had to run run Windows XP and even though this was 2016 the employees still played this. I dont remember the high scores or anything but they were sky high since it'd been running for over a decade.
@makisekurisu8594
@makisekurisu8594 5 жыл бұрын
MINESWEEPER!!!
@slavvingsquats2146
@slavvingsquats2146 5 жыл бұрын
My mom is really big on Solitaire; I'm more of minesweeper and Daggerfall guy myself
@JazzyWaffles
@JazzyWaffles 5 жыл бұрын
@@slavvingsquats2146 Daggerfall wasn't included on Windows machines by default lmao. "One of these things is not like the others"
@slavvingsquats2146
@slavvingsquats2146 5 жыл бұрын
@@JazzyWaffles I know I'm just saying I liked playing it as a kid
@Nic5Cyprus
@Nic5Cyprus 4 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best and most well-known demo of all time
@Mattrophied
@Mattrophied 3 жыл бұрын
More like worst demo of all time. Almost no one even knew it was a demo for anything!
@bradallen8909
@bradallen8909 10 ай бұрын
Not even close. Doom wins that award any day of the week! It was actually a good game, too, unlike this unplayable piece of rubbish.
@ItsMeKeryao
@ItsMeKeryao 8 ай бұрын
​@@Mattrophiedyou probably don't know the 2000s
@earthnugs
@earthnugs 4 жыл бұрын
Now I'm imagining an alternate timeline where Maxis didn't utterly fail at marketing the full product, made an insane amount of money, and prevented themselves from falling into EA's evil grasp.
@manoflego123
@manoflego123 7 жыл бұрын
"George LGRR Martin" cracked me up, also this wasn't my first computer game, but it was one of my first experiences with any kind of pinball.
@minigunner1218
@minigunner1218 6 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on "Microsoft" products that have been licensed from third-parties, essentially gutted, and rebranded with them taking pretty much all the credit via removing references to the original product/company. Space Cadet Pinball, Microsoft Paint, and Microsoft GS Wavetable (the MIDI synth) are among a few.
@pyeltd.5457
@pyeltd.5457 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows that Space Cadet was made by Maxis as it's credited in the About window in Soace Cadet 1995 Maxis Game, 1999 updated for Windows 2000
@wordart_guian
@wordart_guian 4 жыл бұрын
paint was supposed to be free as a limited time offer in 1985
@they2kguy822
@they2kguy822 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Microsoft GS Wavetable is just low quality Roland sc-55
@presidentkiller
@presidentkiller 2 жыл бұрын
If they licensed it and the license allowed it, or outright bought the company that made it, they pretty much can do whatever they want with it. Even MS-DOS wasn't really made by them but they bought out the guy and his company that made it.
@tsm688
@tsm688 Жыл бұрын
and hyperterminal... One of the few competent programs bundled with Windows 95. Discovered years later of course it wasn't an MS product, which is why it was good, and why it disappeared.
@apollojustice5338
@apollojustice5338 4 жыл бұрын
The moment the video began, I was overwhelmed with memories. I remember spending so many of my precious time on it before getting my first proper PC game, GTA San Andreas. Also, it was a fucking demo. My life is a lie...
@ceapaverde1288
@ceapaverde1288 7 жыл бұрын
What.... it was a demo whatever i remember when i play this game back in 2006 thanks LGR for bring back some childhood memories back, good video
@ceapaverde1288
@ceapaverde1288 7 жыл бұрын
i am from romania and in 2006 i got my first PC and in that time romania was not a thnological country and my family is poor for european standards because $>LEI
@Eliel20117
@Eliel20117 7 жыл бұрын
i played back in 2002
@TheCatVtuber
@TheCatVtuber 6 жыл бұрын
I was playing Space Cadet all days, until 2006 when some guy told me a game called "Age of Empires III" came out. After installing it, i was like "OH THE GRAPHICS". Some game like that makes my XP computer can only run in like 5-10 fps with the lowest settings. Memories.
@hispy2371
@hispy2371 6 жыл бұрын
Played in 2008
@dzvxo
@dzvxo 6 жыл бұрын
Ceapa Verde lol și eu sunt român
@darianalexander5503
@darianalexander5503 7 жыл бұрын
I'm 18 and this was one of my first PC games. This and Freddy Fish. 😂
@pingusthedin6953
@pingusthedin6953 7 жыл бұрын
mine was snake
@pingusthedin6953
@pingusthedin6953 7 жыл бұрын
+Gamelog no i had it for a really old windows machine my neighbor had given me
@NazmusLabs
@NazmusLabs 7 жыл бұрын
Freddi fish yes
@arthas640
@arthas640 6 жыл бұрын
this wasnt my first PC game (not to unusual now, but i was playing on computers and cruising online since i was 3 or 4 around '95) but it was one of the first PC games i played regularly and to date is my all time favorite pinball game
@pappi8338
@pappi8338 6 жыл бұрын
Darian Alexander this was mine too
@Listerine99.9
@Listerine99.9 7 жыл бұрын
Lol i always played this if internet wouldn't work well Miss the old internet, where quality shockwave and flash games are at everywhere :(
@DarkKnightTrinity
@DarkKnightTrinity 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of early flash games have been lost, for sure. I remember some weird Java-based sci fi RPG that I will never find again. I remember Wiz Kid 2 and 3, and all its spin offs. That squirrel one where you were collecting gems. That first big MMO flash tank game where you could get like 50 people on a map and it blew my mind. Good times.
@chrisjason7607
@chrisjason7607 5 жыл бұрын
The old shockwave was uncontested for games.
@Rockzilla1122
@Rockzilla1122 5 жыл бұрын
>quality You're funny
@its-amemegatron.9521
@its-amemegatron.9521 4 жыл бұрын
Shockwave and flash... holy.
@BlueFlagAlpha
@BlueFlagAlpha 4 жыл бұрын
Good old Miniclip
@steamedauroraborealis8208
@steamedauroraborealis8208 7 жыл бұрын
This game was only a demo? My entire childhood is a goddamn lie. Years of pissing off my parents and sister alike by always remapping the flippers and dominating the highschores for nothing! What's next, are you going to tell me David Byrne has done anything beyond Like Humans Do?
@musicbykurt
@musicbykurt 7 жыл бұрын
Draydince Man, if this is a joke, it's subtle as all get out.
@JustAGuyWithALongScreenName
@JustAGuyWithALongScreenName 5 жыл бұрын
Have you heard about Santa yet?
@feliznavidad4846
@feliznavidad4846 5 жыл бұрын
How nostalgic
@knifeghandi
@knifeghandi 5 жыл бұрын
Damn I forgot about "Like Humans Do"
@Soitisisit
@Soitisisit 5 жыл бұрын
Counting Talking Heads or no?
@TheMysteriousKnight
@TheMysteriousKnight 7 жыл бұрын
I spent hundreds of hours on this, No joke I had it on my old windows XP :D
@Jeanpierre0071
@Jeanpierre0071 7 жыл бұрын
Same here brother.
@LucasRazorBlade
@LucasRazorBlade 7 жыл бұрын
Yup. :)
@sadokbarbouche9427
@sadokbarbouche9427 7 жыл бұрын
I played it on Windows me Windows 2000 Windows Xp all separate computers
@zh84
@zh84 7 жыл бұрын
I was so sad when they stopped including it in Windows.
@shadoom
@shadoom 7 жыл бұрын
nothing to be sad about ! You just need to register yourself a Microsoft TM account TM and access the Microsoft TM Windows TM Store TM hold on you cant trademark the word store! Because its jus... [COMMENT REMOVED]
@alexlockard8075
@alexlockard8075 7 жыл бұрын
If they did add it back to 10, it would have microtransactions like solitaire does.
@LGR
@LGR 7 жыл бұрын
At the very least, ads all over the place. When I first booted up Solitaire in Win10 and saw a commercial for Twix, I was floored... ugh.
@Keduce22
@Keduce22 7 жыл бұрын
I just found a way to install all the old Windows games back ... I hate the metro technology stack
@JeffreyPiatt
@JeffreyPiatt 6 жыл бұрын
Win 10 no longer includes games there free downloads with minesweeper gaining a Chips challenge like adventure mode and Xbox achievements'. Like your first death is one.
@wordforger
@wordforger 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I found i in the app store for free, so... :D
@TheMetalButcher
@TheMetalButcher 5 жыл бұрын
If you just want the demo, copy the old .exe and fire it up.
@CEO100able
@CEO100able 7 жыл бұрын
I remember playing this game!
@pokemonpreadythepokemonmaniac
@pokemonpreadythepokemonmaniac 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@jackcarter9081
@jackcarter9081 3 жыл бұрын
@@pokemonpreadythepokemonmaniac I still play works perfectly in modern windows and Linux too
@larsschothorst521
@larsschothorst521 7 жыл бұрын
This, Roller Coaster Tycoon and Rayman 2 was my life.
@NoeLPZC
@NoeLPZC 7 жыл бұрын
Rayman 2 is way better than Rayman 3.
@somedesertdude1308
@somedesertdude1308 7 жыл бұрын
Snoop Doge gothic 1-2
@SoukaDeezNutz
@SoukaDeezNutz 6 жыл бұрын
I always wanted Roller-coaster Tycoon, but my parents got me Prison Tycoon. Was still fun though.
@Disciple0fMetal
@Disciple0fMetal 4 жыл бұрын
Age of empires? Starcraft? Oh so many memories 😁
@marcovirtual
@marcovirtual Жыл бұрын
And judging by your avatar, Deus Ex too, right? Good choices all around.
@shinkansenhype8694
@shinkansenhype8694 7 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was 6 1/2 years old playing the standalone space cadet version on my dad's computer back in 2001 and man was that game addicting for me.
@s4ndwichMakeR
@s4ndwichMakeR 7 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I remember playing the game on my sh*tty Win ME machine fifteen years ago for the first time. I also used to play it in fullscreen at (the only) 640x480 resolution on my 15″ CRT. Seeing that higher resolution version now just blows my mind. It looks so much more awesome.
@sand0decker
@sand0decker 5 жыл бұрын
I never ran my computers at low resolution. It does explain why old games like this looked tiny on my home computers compared to the ones at school
@agamaz5650
@agamaz5650 5 жыл бұрын
Same bro I'm shocked this game is 1024x768 I thought it's only 640x480
@pyeltd.5457
@pyeltd.5457 4 жыл бұрын
Put Win2000 on it. It will wake up and play this game at a wooping 8k 60fps resolution.
@LordDucky1
@LordDucky1 7 жыл бұрын
This is one of those lovely situations when you played a demo or inferior version of something when you were a kid, then many years later discover a sequel or improved/complete version. You get both the nostalgia factor and also the freshness of something new.
@DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii
@DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii 7 жыл бұрын
Pinball games aged pretty well.
@georgeoldsterd8994
@georgeoldsterd8994 2 жыл бұрын
Not all of them though. I remember playing some other (other than Maxis) pinball and it was a mess. The camera would follow the ball, so you never saw the full table all the time. I imagine some people actually like it better that way, but i sure don't. 😖
@bradallen8909
@bradallen8909 10 ай бұрын
What? This game was considered extremely primitive even when it was brand new. Ever seen Pinball Dreams/Fantasies/Illusions, Slam Tilt, or even Sonic Spinball? They're what pinball games are supposed to be like. And they all ran on FAR less powerful hardware than this piece of shit required.
@LugiDergX
@LugiDergX 7 ай бұрын
It might not look the best even today, in 2023, but I do believe those graphics while dated, have their charm. Playing even in 1028x768 resolution, I mean, while it could be much better, I consider that more than enough (at least as someone who only has 1920x1080 monitor themselves)
@smidge-J
@smidge-J 4 жыл бұрын
You can redownload it in all its former glory from the internet, and it functions just as well. That's how I can play 3d space cadet pinball on my windows 10 computer in the year of our Lord 2019
@cloudesuu
@cloudesuu 7 жыл бұрын
That clip of Clint playing Doom with the buttons made my day haha
@rawr51919
@rawr51919 7 жыл бұрын
cloudesuu lolololololololol... At least that part was anyway...
@prphd555
@prphd555 4 жыл бұрын
Gets tired quickly? Getting a high score was 90% of my childhood
@Heidegaff
@Heidegaff 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody is going to talk about Clint saying "insatiable quest for booty"?
@chumking
@chumking 4 жыл бұрын
.........
@PrinceAkaiVtuber
@PrinceAkaiVtuber 4 жыл бұрын
No wonder our gen loves to eat ass
@Ninetails2000
@Ninetails2000 4 жыл бұрын
We already knew he was a thrustmaster.
@isalt5
@isalt5 4 жыл бұрын
Don't even get me started on "Benedict Dragonsnatch".
@thedukeofdeathpt6262
@thedukeofdeathpt6262 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, I prefer to talk on Quest for Butter
@vampiricpig1392
@vampiricpig1392 2 жыл бұрын
The sound effects in this game are legendary
@jarlath6815
@jarlath6815 7 жыл бұрын
When I was in 5th grade I was playing Space Cadet and the ball got stuck between 3 bumpers for 10-20 minutes
@recklesssquirel5962
@recklesssquirel5962 5 жыл бұрын
When i was young, the ball kept going out of the wormhole, bounce around and go right back in for like 15 mins
@MLGGUY420Official
@MLGGUY420Official 5 жыл бұрын
+Jake Schmidt Lucky You!
@recklesssquirel5962
@recklesssquirel5962 5 жыл бұрын
@@MLGGUY420Official maybe. It was cool for like the first 5 mins, then it was boring because there was nothing i knew i could do lol. It was wormhole, bounce, bounce wormhole, repeat. For 15 mins lol
@MLGGUY420Official
@MLGGUY420Official 5 жыл бұрын
The game demo has a debug mode. just type hidden test and you can control the ball by click and hold
@recklesssquirel5962
@recklesssquirel5962 5 жыл бұрын
@@MLGGUY420Official sweeet
@MaximumCarter
@MaximumCarter 2 жыл бұрын
One of my fondest memories was playing this demo with my now deceased mother. My mom showed me this game back in 95/96 and I fell in love lol. My mom and I sunk many hours into Space Cadet and made alot of memories along the way. Thanks for covering this Clint.
@bobbyjcfhvlichtenstein8253
@bobbyjcfhvlichtenstein8253 5 жыл бұрын
And on this episode of "why is this in my recommended?" We have a game from the deepest parts of our memory
@roberthanthonymartinezrive7383
@roberthanthonymartinezrive7383 7 жыл бұрын
my freaking childhood here. God what a great pinball game.
@RuralGamer91
@RuralGamer91 7 жыл бұрын
Loved this game! I installed this on every computer in my school!
@aaadj2744
@aaadj2744 3 жыл бұрын
I wish all classic Windows game like Pinball, Internet Checkers, Heart, Spider Solitare, Minesweeper are available on MS Store so I could download them all when I need to. Sometime these game brings my nostalgia back and I feel like to play them again in a time when I want to
@bitwize
@bitwize 7 жыл бұрын
So Full Tilt came out two months after Windows 95 did, but the DirectX API wouldn't materialize for like a year. That means it used the old WinG API. Did Microsoft port it to DirectX? Or has the WinG API been kept alive lo these many years by Space Cadet _and virtually nothing else_?
@LGR
@LGR 7 жыл бұрын
A good question that I do not know the answer to! Hopefully someone comes along that does :)
@MrMateczkoYT
@MrMateczkoYT 7 жыл бұрын
DirectX 1.0 came on September 30, 1995. Full Tilt! Pinball came on October 31, 1995. So it uses DirectX. DirectX 1.0 didn't had Direct3D yet, which is fun to mention.
@jasonknight1085
@jasonknight1085 7 жыл бұрын
I would actually be surprised if it used EITHER! About ALL winG did was provide you access to the framebuffer for direct and/or semi direct (palette transitioning) rendering. Handy if you're doing stuff like trying to use your own polygon drawing, depth sorting, or per-pixel rendering for things like raycasting.... it really didn't provide any advantages over just shoving bitmaps on the screen using the plain-Jane windows API. Assuming a static background, there were plenty of calls in Windows for handling the writing of bitmaps to the screen without resorting to directX or WinG... and it was actually fairly speedy at it to. You could easily pass an AND map and OR of your image for per pixel transparency all the way back to Windows 3.0. If it wasn't, programs like Paintbrush, Paint Shop Pro, etc, etc... wouldn't exist. Hell, just look at "Microsoft Arcade" for Win 3.x that didn't need any fancy API just to draw those classic games. You get to "return of Arcade" they're moving more stuff around, but I most verily doubt they used DirectX or WinG for those either! Go back even further to things like the Microsoft Entertainment Packs, and sure those games are more primitive, but the system requirements are even that much lower. (@LRG, not to give you any ideas on stuff to review, hint, hint) These games aren't doing anything that would/should warrant the need of a fancy graphics API above and beyond what even Windows 3.x could deliver. Mostly it just needed enough CPU to keep up. Pinball is a GREAT game for creating on lesser machines, because the board just sits there, and only a handful of things ever move/change per frame. The overhead of implementing such a game is most always entirely in collision detection, angles of deflection, and momentum, not drawing it on screen. Well, unless you're going to make the whole screen scroll like Silverball does... which from a purely technical standpoint is significantly more impressive.
@bitwize
@bitwize 7 жыл бұрын
Jason Knight I've written games that use GDI BitBlt calls to draw the screen. It's possible to get a playable framerate, but very hard to get anything like the super-smooth framerate exhibited by Space Cadet Pinball. Add in things like the dynamically scaling ball, and you begin to see a real use case for something like WinG or DX1.
@bitwize
@bitwize 7 жыл бұрын
Jason Knight Also, Return of Arcade does in fact use WinG.
@Pearcey80
@Pearcey80 7 жыл бұрын
I swear it was just the other day I commented that these videos are so comfy to watch while eating food, just as my dinner is ready I go to my sub-box and see this. Keep up the good work Clint!
@LGR
@LGR 7 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the food (and the video!)
@P2000Camaro
@P2000Camaro 7 жыл бұрын
You said that the original Space Cadet didn't have multiball... I'm about 98% sure it did. I haven't played it in like..15 years or so, but I distinctly remember it having multiball..
@MrMateczkoYT
@MrMateczkoYT 7 жыл бұрын
No, Windows Space Cadet does not have multiball. Period. It has extra balls instead. Maybe you were a lucky one to have played the Full Tilt! Pinball version :)
@metallicarabbit
@metallicarabbit 7 жыл бұрын
nope, it didn't. i have it right here in front of me
@JayJayHuman
@JayJayHuman 7 жыл бұрын
P2000Camaro Mandela effect
@Meepswonder
@Meepswonder 5 жыл бұрын
I also played the multiball version and it wasn't the Full Tilt! version either..
@nytrodioxide
@nytrodioxide 5 жыл бұрын
I remember the same. I distinctly recollect my version having multiball function
@Xenvitar
@Xenvitar 8 ай бұрын
Waves of nostalgia come flooding back! This was the very first pinball game that I played on my Windows XP when I was a kid that kick-started my love for pinball, and it is STILL one of my favorite pinball tables of all time. Space Cadet has transcended time itself to the point where it's fully created in Visual Pinball that is visually stunning. Although the game was only a demo with no multiball feature, it was still fun for me.
@mokenetgumshoe1064
@mokenetgumshoe1064 5 жыл бұрын
You do a very good job with quality and consistency LGR. Your success is well-deserved!
@farcry223
@farcry223 7 жыл бұрын
this game is probably one of my earliest memories of playing a game on a computer. such a fun game and memories.
@goopah
@goopah 7 жыл бұрын
I also had Full Tilt Pinball 2, which I had to order direct from the company at the time, as it was the only place I could find a boxed copy. I still have it, and they are also very fun tables.
@PossumMedic
@PossumMedic 5 жыл бұрын
Like you said that load up sound takes me back! :D Thanks for another great video!
@jdk8434
@jdk8434 7 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite PC games as a kid! Thank you for doing this LGR, I had no idea I was playing a demo version for so many years. T^T.
@raymai6742
@raymai6742 4 жыл бұрын
It is also one of the rare games that starts up lightning fast on Windows 9x, but damn slow on NT-based Windows like WinXP.
@tsm688
@tsm688 Жыл бұрын
Win9x held on by its fingernails for as long as it did for a reason. NT was and is a pig
@nickg2915
@nickg2915 7 жыл бұрын
HAH, played the hell out of this as a kid.
@georgeoldsterd8994
@georgeoldsterd8994 2 жыл бұрын
Aye, i remember this! My dad used to play this for kicks when he wasn't working. We'd sometimes compete on who was better. Then i bough a compilation CD featuring many games from different developers (an obviously pirated disk) that had a collection of three pinball games, among which were Space Cadet (with a different space ship art in the side-menu), Skulduggery, and Dragon's Keep. I'm pretty sure the same company released several others, but i only know these three.
@Schontaylor
@Schontaylor 4 жыл бұрын
You’re giving me so much feels to my childhood, love your channel
@ozzie_goat
@ozzie_goat 7 жыл бұрын
I'd play this when the internet went out.
@pricelessppp
@pricelessppp 6 жыл бұрын
I'd play this & modded KSP.
@ELEcomments
@ELEcomments 5 жыл бұрын
Dude same lol.
@BlueFlagAlpha
@BlueFlagAlpha 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@aaadj2744
@aaadj2744 3 жыл бұрын
Same lol, this is my first PC game before I knew a big titles of pc game
@tayooo1000
@tayooo1000 4 жыл бұрын
i remember space cadet having mutiball mode on the demo one when i played it
@georgeoldsterd8994
@georgeoldsterd8994 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh, yeah! I totally forgot about multiball mode!
@rajgill7576
@rajgill7576 5 жыл бұрын
WOAH WOAH WOAH. Judging by the sheer amount of research you have done here, I dare say this is NOT a lazy game review. Rather, it’s pretty damn thorough
@lwvmobile
@lwvmobile 5 жыл бұрын
This game was what everybody was playing in secret in the high school computer lab. The administrators never bothered to uninstall it but occasionally you might find the shortcuts deleted, but the game was right there in the usual folder.
@riffbw
@riffbw 4 жыл бұрын
Dragon's Keep was my favorite. I did manage to slay the dragon once.
@EposVox
@EposVox 7 жыл бұрын
Yaaay!
@ZacharyDietze
@ZacharyDietze Жыл бұрын
Space Cadet has basically transcended time itself to the point where it’s fully recreated in Visual Pinball. There’s a reason why it was the free table over the other two, and that’s because it’s so good. If anything, trying to get the other two lessens the overall quality since, well, they haven’t aged nearly as well design-wise.
@guvhvhcfhfyc3358
@guvhvhcfhfyc3358 Жыл бұрын
The Visual Pinball recreation is incredible. Can even play Space Cadet in a digital cabinet, like a real pin.
@slopesgameroom
@slopesgameroom 7 жыл бұрын
i have never wanted to play a crap pinball pc game more :) thanks 4 blowing my mind!
@DrewberTravels
@DrewberTravels 7 жыл бұрын
I love getting the entire story from LGR.
@Glacier_Nester
@Glacier_Nester 7 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, /that's/ where I remember those other two tables! I remember playing each of them approximately 1 time as a young kid, then going back to space cadet immediately after (because I thought it was best table, since space is neat). Thanks for pointing this out, LGR!
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial 7 жыл бұрын
Oooooohhhhh that opening Space Cadet sound...oh it takes me back. Great vid, would have never known it was just a demo.
@Bird_of_Hope
@Bird_of_Hope 4 жыл бұрын
*My recommendations are great.😁*
@tom611
@tom611 7 жыл бұрын
I hated the not being able to use both shift keys too with Space Cadet, so I ended up using the 'NT Kernel Toys' that Microsoft had for download for Windows XP and remapped one Shift to Crtl so it'd work with the built in remapping.
@LGR
@LGR 7 жыл бұрын
Ooh, nice solution.
@thardin42
@thardin42 7 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I knew about this full pack. I played the included version till the flippers fell off. Friend of mine found a way to control the ball with the mouse. Killed that high score at school. Love your work Clint.
@glassesfactory6987
@glassesfactory6987 5 жыл бұрын
OMG THIS IS SO NOSTALGIC FOR ME. THANK YOU FOR CREATING THIS MASTER PEICE OF A VIDEO.
@Merril_39
@Merril_39 7 жыл бұрын
Impressive editing. Very pleasant video.
@LGR
@LGR 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@FredrIQ
@FredrIQ 5 жыл бұрын
As a bored kid one time, I read the help manual -- it mentioned the existence of other boards, which left me very confused. This clears it up! This game was the ultimate time waster for me on computers when I was waiting for something, I had little interest for the various Solitaire games or Minesweeper.
@Rhodie1377
@Rhodie1377 4 жыл бұрын
oh shit! this brought back memories. When i was a kid, my dad had this game on his laptop and would let my brother and I play during plane rides. Thank you for reminding me of those wonderful times.
@Shipwright1918
@Shipwright1918 4 жыл бұрын
Was more of Microsoft Pinball Arcade guy myself, but I can't deny that I didn't while away a good chunk of time playing Space Cadet every so often. Even with all the great pinball sims out there nowadays, there is a recreation of good ol' Space Cadet available for Future Pinball, and I keep it alongside all the others in my digital arcade for giggles and the memories.
@mystman1210
@mystman1210 7 жыл бұрын
I've got Full Tilt 1 and 2, although I'm not a huge fan of either, but that's more so because of each tables ruleset. Even though they try to play like real tables, which I like, I've never been able to get a good understanding of the rules, but maybe I just haven't taken enough time to learn them... Would have liked to see you delve into the rules a bit. Oh, also, the layout of Dragon's Keep is an almost direct copy of the Jurassic Park pinball machine!
@FrithRa
@FrithRa 7 жыл бұрын
That high score name. Benedict Dragonsnatch. I want to roll this as a D&D character now.
@CTyler84
@CTyler84 3 жыл бұрын
I think the older Pinball Fantasies was the first pinball game on PC I tried. I sure played Space Cadet a while, but Slam Tilt in 1997 absolutely blew my socks off. Amazingly, Slam Tilt works okay on win10 and I still play it today now and then.
@corrsgirl1
@corrsgirl1 7 жыл бұрын
There is more than just the demo I played over and over and over???? Learning something today.
@PeepsMichael
@PeepsMichael 5 жыл бұрын
3:17 Oh my god the nostalgia.
@angelol2877
@angelol2877 4 жыл бұрын
A daycare I used to go to after school had a Windows XP computer that had SimCity 2000 and Space Cadet
@AceKitties
@AceKitties 3 жыл бұрын
oh man, This song... The nostalgia still kills me Everyday. This is why I love LGR, You're Pure Nostalgia,Love your channel! >_
@LoneGuardian
@LoneGuardian Жыл бұрын
Recently, I found my old laptop that ran XP, simply copied it off the laptop onto an external ssd, then copied it onto my new PC with windows 10, runs perfectly!
@pinballwiz45b
@pinballwiz45b 7 жыл бұрын
Wait, so Microsoft's version was first? Dang. Another point: Technically, EA holds the license to Full Tilt! Pinball, now that Maxis and Cinematronics both went under. My guess is that Microsoft's Pinball Star is a deliberate rip-off of Space Cadet because (and I'm totally guessing on this) that Microsoft may not have the license to the game anymore. It's technically EA's property now, and we'll probably need to shout at them as well. (117 million on Space Cadet, by the way.)
@LGR
@LGR 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, EA owns all Maxis properties, but they have since 1997! Licensing isn't the issue. Also, Pinball Star is not an official replacement either, it is by "Rolling Donut Apps" and not Microsoft.
@priyapepsi
@priyapepsi 4 жыл бұрын
This is a life changing revelation
@adonizi
@adonizi 7 жыл бұрын
Just bought Pinball FX2 from Steam, because of this video. Love playing it while listening to podcasts.
@AsAboveISoBelow
@AsAboveISoBelow 5 жыл бұрын
Just seeing you open the jewel case, and see that mirror glimmer off the CD... it brought up a lot of nostalgia for old DOS games that I didn't realize I had... and now I'm kinda sad...... Thank you though. :D
@independentquebec3500
@independentquebec3500 4 жыл бұрын
So I was playing the full version dang.
@MrJiffyPOPPOP
@MrJiffyPOPPOP 7 жыл бұрын
And I just installed it last night as this video is recent. Perfect fucking timing, ain't it?
@Waynimations
@Waynimations 5 жыл бұрын
I had the sudden urge to search this up and was happy to see you cover this
@hn454
@hn454 7 жыл бұрын
They day my middle school updated from 95 to 2000 was the best day of my life, this game is why. Thanks for all the info!
@Joeyseph
@Joeyseph 4 жыл бұрын
2:34 I just called that phone number, and apparently it's turned into something... Well... Interesting, to say the least.
@luciano_luna1941
@luciano_luna1941 4 жыл бұрын
What happen?
@BuTtClOuD
@BuTtClOuD 4 жыл бұрын
Joseph Johnson Yeah what happened? I’m genuinely curious now lol
@Joeyseph
@Joeyseph 4 жыл бұрын
@@BuTtClOuD Uh... Did you not read my last reply?
@BuTtClOuD
@BuTtClOuD 4 жыл бұрын
Joseph Johnson well all it says is something interesting happened.. don’t see anything else
@Joeyseph
@Joeyseph 4 жыл бұрын
@@BuTtClOuD i.imgur.com/zuGwYjB.png
@juliannatale6743
@juliannatale6743 7 жыл бұрын
Space cadet: Makes 1 billion sales in 1 year Half life 1: Makes 9.3 million sales in over 6 years Logic
@connormason7907
@connormason7907 6 жыл бұрын
Julian Natale Well, it was packaged with windows
@NexhiAlibias
@NexhiAlibias 5 жыл бұрын
Julian Natale it isnt illogical. think about the times those came out and how one of them was bundled.
@SeaOfTides
@SeaOfTides 5 жыл бұрын
Also, Half Life was only for people that can stand FPS genre, while Pinball genre has much greater appeal.
@Imnotimportant555
@Imnotimportant555 6 жыл бұрын
OMG Childhood coming back. Must Play again. i loved playing this game as a kid and still play it now. this was one of the best offline games you could play in my opinion and still is.
@shaofu424
@shaofu424 2 жыл бұрын
hey howdy just dropped by to say you do a good job on these vids and you do a really good job w the speaking be safe be happy work hard peace \m/
@khayafhaya
@khayafhaya 5 жыл бұрын
4:17 “an insatiable quest for booty” story of my life
@donellismusic
@donellismusic 7 жыл бұрын
You should check out the Pro Pinball games if you haven't yet. I always thought they were super ahead of their time for 1995-1999 with its graphics and physics. :)
@alaeriia01
@alaeriia01 7 жыл бұрын
Don:Ellis Music I swear I've been nagging him about this for years. I'm about ready to mail him a box-set of Timeshock, BRUSA, and Mediocre Journey.
@lionocyborg6030
@lionocyborg6030 6 жыл бұрын
I used to play this all the time on the class Windows XP machines during Golden Time in primary school when I was in primary 7. It was never as good as Timeshock, but it is a decent little pinball sim that helped tie me over, even though the school should have got Timeshock instead. The school I went to is also where I learned about the Zoombinies and Sonic the Hedgehog, as that same classroom has the Zoombinies on the computers as well, and my primary 3 classroom computers had the PC version of Sonic R.
@Zilentj
@Zilentj 4 жыл бұрын
2:36 AM...Wow you must really love playing Space Cadet.
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