Absolutely mind blowing discussion. So informative and true food for thought.

Thank you for all you do guys. Awesome to see my favorite fighting duo choping it up. Love from Florida.

You don't even allow the gut flora to adapt to carb sources (each plant has specific fibers requiring specific bacterial species) and jump to talking about heavy metals, geeze... Plants generally help the liver to detox heavy metals, starting from supporting glutathione, binding to silica that is in all plant cell membranes etc - hardly ever a problem (sure, the risks are minimized even further when mixing up the agricultural areas our crops come from). Don't play a dumb here. You butcherbox salesman.

You sound hard of breathing and look weird.

Having trouble breathing?

My allergic response is seasonally affected, also.

Your husband is brainwashed by academy. Standard.

Maybe if you stayed away from dairy altogether you wouldn't be affected by the allergy season!!

I removed dairy after noticing bad allergies and have been doing much better without it.@@leonflores2933

Who cares if your experience isn't statistically significant?? When only one out of 100 people suffers from a certain problem, it still 100% affects that person and it is no comfort to them how unusual they are

tried FODMAP’s?

Doesn’t exist on a fruit and vegetable diet… raw

@@themothers not sure what you mean? I ate only fruit & vegetables & did have IBS. If you are saying IBS doesn't exist eating only fruit & vegetables you are wrong.

@@moorediane7831 okay, with me it’s reverse. I can’t eat anything else or I get sick. That’s why I said it. I can’t eat meat, etc.

@@themothers we're all different. Pretty crazy isn't, what makes me I'll is good for someone else.

I agree completely. individuality when it comes to dieting is important. there is a lot of biased people out there that thinks one way of eating should be the only way.

@@Alyssa501 I think some look at animals, saying they do not have different diets. which is correct.

I hear what you are saying, and of course youre right that its good to be able to change your mind and be flexible about something you used to think, but in the end he has not told us something we dont know. Anyone can try different things to see what works for them. I dont need a guy who made money off of books and being a minor celebrity to tell me its all up to me to figure it out. What do we need someone like him for then?

He didn't add them either. He tried them separately, was unwell to both, went back to eliminating them.

He’s in very good shape and does a lot of exercise. What works for him very likely will not work for others unless they’re just like him.

more reason not listen to these diet hacks. just eat a balanced diet and exercise

I think people are hating grifters who write books for a quick buck on something rapidly gaining popularity and then contradict themselves a few months later. If you're going to put your name to a book about something you should probably be more confident in what you're writing about.

Yea its called scamming people for millions of dollars

Yeah, MOST con artists are extremely 'enthusiastic' and charming.

haha dude is a grifter... Go back and watch his early carnivore video's... talks about how amazing it is..... later he's adding fruit... it's amazing... Oh now some rice and potatoes... Dude just as candy bars next.

Paul is a vegan who eats animal products. Two sides of the same coin.

How does that work, evolutionarily?

That cute. Carnivore is the only diet that humans can thrive on.

@@AsAWhiteManMarriedToALatina not if your exercising a lot, i need carbs, I tried carnivore for months and my sleep went down the drain, carnivore is fantastic in losing weight and healing certain conditions but for me it wasn’t great cause I wasn’t overweight and didn’t have any illness.

@@AsAWhiteManMarriedToALatinayou are def a fat guy who lost weight 😂now you think your an expert on nutrition lmao

@@AsAWhiteManMarriedToALatina False. I did carnivore for several months, and it didn't enhance my life at all. It actually worsened many things for me.

True 😂🎉

And maybe TRT, Tren or other things. Same with Delauer. If I add all those carbs (rice, potatoes, honey, juice, fruit) it just stimulates my appetite and makes me want to eat more.

I believe the carbohydrate content should be measured by how much you are active

@@johnp7739which makes you want to move more… virtuous cycle. Carbs are good not some taboo food to limit all the time

Can't out run a bad diet

Both shills flip flopping from diet to diet while making money

It could be your gut microbiome is not adapted to eating carbs too, if you've been eating a certain way for a long time.

Leaky gut.

Maybe try fruit without the potatoes and rice. My gut is fine with fruits. I mainly just eat ground beef too but fruit seem to be fine.

Dude. That HAPPENS when you’ve ONLY been carnivore because your digestive juices have changed to prioritize MEAT. You *have to* slowly titrate up on ANY change you make.

This happens to me too, and I was leaning towards it being a carbs I ate for dinner. Literally looks like I’m pregnant. I was heavily fat/meat based prior to incorporating the carbs into my diet at dinner time. Don’t know what direction to move in now.

We needs carbs

Adrenaline would most likely be working overtime with no carbs and just meat

your pretty much eating PE diet style

The book Life Without Bread has lots of good information. I also felt better with adding in some carbs, mostly whole fruit.

There are days where I feel my body cannot make enough calories from beef and fats (I add tons of fats), get tired and even get light headed.

What is the difference between keto and ketovore?

​@@asdf1991asdf keto includes plants, ketovore is high fat carnivore

@@asdf1991asdf the difference is how much more quickly the saturated fats in the ketovore diet will give you a heart attack...it is much more efficient at that 😂😂

@mikepetrilli4686, Nice myth you’ve repeated there. Saturated fat is a species appropriate food source for humans. Our ancestors have been consuming it and thriving since long before recorded history.

​@@mikepetrilli4686 Saturated fats don't oxidize in the way non saturated fats do. How exactly do non oxidizing fats set up the oxidative stresses that contribute to heart attacks amongst other things? Your great grandmother didn't get diabetes but she probably was eating tallow, lard and butter, because margarine didn't exist.

thank you! Paul testing things and pivoting based off the results is literally how science is supposed to work. Everyone on this thread bashing him for changing his mind on things is so low IQ I cant stand it.

He WAS very dogmatic for a loooong time :) and narrow-minded. And he still is, just the level has changed.

I’m not bashing him for changing his mind, and tbh the only thing he’s good at is ignoring and or not reading the literature that doesn’t support what he already believes.

or dogmatic

He lives in Costa Rica? 😆

@@Mr.EaseMysteries WHAT!? 🤣

I did. Now I'm 💀.

Clearly Costa Rica is the place to be!

Interesting--something to pay attention to the next time I eat rice!

Exact same for me dude. As soon as I have rice, I start to immediately crave sugar and carbs. It is directly connected to the rice.

lol complete bs..yall overthink this diet thing bro you crave sugar? Just eat some fruit i dont really get what your even saying

I eat rice together with meat, vegetables and other high fiber foods and I don't crave sugars/sweets. My inlaws who rarely eats rice constantly have breads, cakes, sodas and candies. I am trim and they're obese.

Rice gives me a blood sugar crash even when paired with protein/fat. That includes supposedly lower glycemic types such as jasmine or basmati. Once in a great while I have some in the form of sushi after exercise. Using a CGM helped me see how my body responds to rice confirming what I was feeling. N=1.

I found out in the second week of carnivore that mashed potatoes make me fart! No more potatoes!

Protein also, the nitrogen molecule is broken off during digestion. Flatulence is not necessarily bad..

Same here I was 315 pounds eating all that carbs and sugar. Now I'm down to 230 and still going!

Eat organic brown rice and bread. Its way more healthier.

Way healthier. Not way MORE healthier

He also Introdeuced too much rice and potatoes to start, I would of started with 50-100 grams of rice once a day to let his gut learn how to process it again. He is so hyper focused on the chemical compounds of the food he is over looking the basics.

@@outdoor-explorerhe also discussed how much processing he performed in prepping the rice in order to mitigate any potential toxins. Nobody I know does all of this with that intent nor to those lengths for any reason. Regardless of what is in the rice, I think what is critical is how the body metabolizes it and if humans have the ability to deal with the intro of potential toxins. One can’t accept metabolism without also accepting other processes of the body. Arsenic is common and has about a 10 hour half-life in the body, eventually eliminating it within days. The body eliminates it through filter organs, lymph and blood vessels where it eventually leaves through sweat, urine and defecation and is gone within days. Fiber is also critical in removing toxins from the body. Until he started reintroducing some produce back into his diet, practically zero fiber in his nutrients. The body is in essence constantly removing and eliminating toxins from the body as part of our natural processes. As arsenic enters, the body deals with it. Obviously, it’s a matter of dosage. I’ve personally drastically reduced rice/grain consumption - not because of potential arsenic or mold issues - just trying to corral my total carb intake due to both of my parents having insulin resistance issues. His video shorts would often show up on my feeds where he rails against just about every food item and concludes that his compact list of foods is the way to go. I haven’t seen them lately - hoping this is because he’s starting to loosen up on the dogma and being a little more accepting of the broader science. I can agree with his general philosophy, mainly the less processed, the better. But he seems to have an affinity with extremism - I think by his personal nature - as is exemplified by his extremes in diet and refusal to accept other views. He did swing from extreme raw veganism to carnivore. The pendulum can’t swing any further than that.

you're being very generous calling his bullshit "research".

Interesting point. Dairy milk has a similar effect for me. The longer times between consumption upsets my stomach/gut. After a few days on, I no longer feel the discomfort.

Lmao

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Dr. 😂

Potatoes make you skinny.

Class comment

Its called being a moron

🤣🤣

You think?

😅😅😅

Right?!!! I was thinking the same thing. Can we say Costa Rica again?!😂

It’s so annoying how much he likes to mention that. Can’t just say surfing.

Yes, I think it might be Costa Rica. 🤔

😂😂😂

i puked a little in my mouth

Yes ! Good clean living is the best for the body, plain and simple . 👏

​@@georgwalt7978 must have been the soy you just ate...

I bet your grocery shopping is easier because you eat the same foods. Simplification!

Basmati rice is the same as white rice

great, it's all over the place and meaningless. thanks for the blogpost, grandpa

@@almaburns6562 yup! And when/if I get bored I still do eat out a couple times a month

@@CookieMonster_ it’s long grained white rice, less starchy, and I just personally think it tastes better than other types of rice

Fascinating observation!👍

lol duh, your brain needs it...everyone knows that.

Did you get to the last 1/3 of the video? Eating high quality food and avoid foods that make you feel not good will start fixing your metabolism, and you will get to the point where that high quality food will give you energy that will MAKE YOU WANT to move more. Thomas said, he gives his kid a piece of fruit and suddenly they want to run around. Eat good food high quality and you will naturally want to move more because of the abundance of energy

Imagine having the free time available to surf 2.5 hours per day. What a life.

@@user-ij5ky4lr3x exactly my point. I am envious of the Man. But good for him

@user-ij5ky4lr3x If you don't have 3 hours per day to do something other than work your normal paying job... that's a major problem. I live in CA. Know people with a full time job, but they are able to wake up earlier some days and go surfing before work... it's just making time for their hobby

@@user-ij5ky4lr3xeveryone has 2.5 hours of free time , your on here right ? You have the time to workout

Because they easily convert to sugar, once eaten.

Which is then burned for energy and increases your metabolism. It’s the other way around. Eat carbs to have energy to move

Well with being active and him working out he felt full after eating potatoes how he felt so stuffed afterwards. He could possibly take what ben greenfield or Dave asprey about having carbs at night to help sleep

grain eaters idnt evolve in right direction lol it shrinks brain

@@canadianboymike8747 you are so right. i dont eat carbs because im carnivore and i currently can't move i need carbs to move 🤣🤣🤣

He’s a moron

It wasn't whole food carbs that got you to be prediabetic, so just don't continue what you did to get there.

I wear a CGM. I’m 60 but wearing it to experiment. I stay within 5 lbs of my ideal body weight. If I eat a few pieces of fruit, my blood glucose stays over 100 for a few DAYS!!!! Same thing with a few carbs during holidays. Every person is an individual. People who blindly follow Paul could really be hurting themselves metabolically. I have a handicapped adult son. He stays up till 4 in the morning. I’m tired because of lack of sleep. Not all of us have the luxury of sleeping when we want😡 He’s really annoying me by saying… by the way, if you are tired, you are not making energy correctly. Arrogant A_S!

@@melissal3383 Lack of sleep can make you insulin resistant, did you know that? Healthy people really aren't very different from each other, it's just that a lot of people are sick and have different diseases, or different degrees of severity. Healthy people are very similar to each other and don't need completely different diets.

so can a lot of saturated fat. If you are real low carb and high saturated fat you will see big spike in blood glucose with fruit or high carb meal. If you go super low saturated fat and high carb, initially one will typically have a big spike in blood glucose. But as your pancreas cranks up insulin again and cells receptors open up shop for glucose, like I experienced, those spikes of 150-180 that I had all the sudden are cut down to 120 and fasting glucose drops in the 70s and 80s. Key is eating the higher carb meals alongside lower fat. And keeping those sources of fat unsaturated. I went from insulin resistant to hyper-insulin sensitivity doing this a year ago. Now eat nuts and seeds as snacks alone. Big plates of veggies and legumes as main carbs sources. Oatmeal and low fat yogurt for breakfast. Protein-frozen blueberry shakes to hit protein goals. 10 hours of surfing a week or mountain biking. Sunset walks after dinner. @@carinaekstrom1

@@RobCGilliam Sounds like you are doing good. Personally I have never worried about how I mix carbs and fats, but I have never been insulin resistant. I have been a vegetarian since I was 11years old (I'm 65 now) and a vegan the last 13 years. Not especially low fat, but staying slim and healthy.

That’s correct but everyone listening thinks he is god , don’t follow his diet unless your him

@@Kwildcat13 yep.. and he says that.

@@Kwildcat13highly doubt many think he is a god 😂 he is an interesting individual in the heal the community. He has figured out what works for him and is extremely healthy. Fruits and meat works very well for me. May not for you. He states multiple times that this is what works for HIMSELF.

But white rice spikes your insulin super high so it's essentially the same thing

It's like you bith asked and answered you're own question about grains