Perkins 1000 Diesel 4.2 The Saga Continues

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Jonathan W

Jonathan W

7 жыл бұрын

Running better!!

Пікірлер: 78
@LarryDeSilva64
@LarryDeSilva64 7 жыл бұрын
That engine sounds ten times better than the other day. you are doing great. you are getting things sorted out.
@burlatsdemontaigne6147
@burlatsdemontaigne6147 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty smooth at idle. Good work!
@louisnemick317
@louisnemick317 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information Jonathan
@justina249
@justina249 4 жыл бұрын
My dad taught me how to run a backhoe on a late 80s model Cat 416 when i was a kid. Even though its been so many years ago hearing that motor run made it feel like it was yesterday. Such sweet memories. That Perkins is a dang good engine
@mikec6892
@mikec6892 5 жыл бұрын
Vintage Jonathan great information. Thank you. Great video .
@TheDaf95xf
@TheDaf95xf 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely little engine Johnathan 😊
@rickyheardsr.7426
@rickyheardsr.7426 7 жыл бұрын
I worked on this type of equipment for 40 years .Perkins in lift trucks and other industrial equipment and it looks like someone who did not know how to work on them has got the inj. pump messed up and you are going to have to remove the pump ,take it apart and check internal parts ,fuel shaft gov springs and other internals.This should be done in a clean room for inj. pumps ,small amount of dirt or debris will damage pump internals.
@wesleybearden9567
@wesleybearden9567 5 жыл бұрын
Ricky Heard Sr. W
@jeffleblanc8850
@jeffleblanc8850 6 жыл бұрын
Diesels are wonderful trying to figure out the prob every body has a different opinion on what it is that’s wrong with it I find they are easier to work on so longs your turbo if you have one isn’t in the way I’d say you are in the right direction to fix it great video I’m about ready to go fire my ole 6.5 up after head gasket change hope it holds together I should have decked the block but not rich and the motor was still in truck I don’t have the space or shop to take motor out good video
@OnlyTheEd
@OnlyTheEd 7 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@sonsofthunder915
@sonsofthunder915 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those fuel distributors (injector pumps) can cause a real fit.
@fixinggrace
@fixinggrace 7 жыл бұрын
It runs nice and quiet for a diesel with no muffler.
@Diesel8290
@Diesel8290 5 жыл бұрын
Either something happened the governor or the fuel control rod inside the pump is seized. Common issue on old engines that have sat. Don’t be afraid of injection pumps. There not as complicated as one would think
@olnamgrunt9857
@olnamgrunt9857 4 жыл бұрын
J,W follow the govern problem, good vid thanks
@buzzsah
@buzzsah 7 жыл бұрын
That would look good in my tractor :)
@motorhead6763
@motorhead6763 7 жыл бұрын
CAT bought them I have one turbo motor excellent engine.
@leyland9999
@leyland9999 7 жыл бұрын
I do not like rotation pumps at all. We have them on our Leyland engines and they can be a pain. So we do not mess with them just take them off and have them fixed. We have several on the shelf just in case. Replacing them with a factory fresh one is cheaper then have them fixed by the way. Labour costs spoils the benefits of having them fixed.
@jackbertram5576
@jackbertram5576 7 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah.
@eugeneoreilly9356
@eugeneoreilly9356 4 жыл бұрын
There is no master spline on the pump drive shaft on those later phaser and 1000 series Perkins engines.There is a locknut on the front off the pump to lock the drive at no 1 TDC.You will have to remove timing cover to line up cam gear and pump drive markings as there is no external timing marks on pump.The locking nut on pump should not be forced but should screw in by hand to lock pump when 1 cylinder is approaching TDC.Older engines with the master drive spline were easier to time.
@hubertrobinson8825
@hubertrobinson8825 3 жыл бұрын
If that's like the older Cav injection pump that lever you move got a little offset dowel on end that moves a slide bar maybe it jumped off on the side door it's timed on the letter E when no 1 is on top dead center it's been over 20yrs since I've been inside one of them I might off those you could've moved the pump right or left for minor adjustments too
@safetyfirstintexas
@safetyfirstintexas 7 жыл бұрын
look for a witness mark on the block aluminum housing and the witness mark on the triangle injector pump base; as there were screws missing. the engine looks like a modern 4.248 (4 cil. 248 cid.) in my massey ferguson brazil 283.
@eugeneoreilly9356
@eugeneoreilly9356 4 жыл бұрын
Those, later generations didn't have timing mark on the pump flange.Instead there is a locking nut on the front off pump to lock pump drive shaft in fixed position.You then remove timing cover and cam and pump drive gears should line up.Greetings from Ireland.
@gustavoferraro2902
@gustavoferraro2902 5 жыл бұрын
jammed accelerator , some of those pumps use oil inside ,they are quite complex , I got to fix one of an international motor of 1850 , greetings from Argentina
@Lfig012
@Lfig012 7 жыл бұрын
injector pump shaft has splines & a master spline.
@jonathanw4942
@jonathanw4942 7 жыл бұрын
If so, it may be a tooth off. It runs adjusted all the way one way.
@deezelfairy
@deezelfairy 6 жыл бұрын
Lfig Lfig just for reference this perkins engine DOES NOT have a master spline on the injection pump, it's a pressed on taper fit hub and a vernier adjustable gear is bolted to that. The factory manual explicitly tells you not to remove the taper fit hub or you loose the timing and your in trouble.
@petarmiletic997
@petarmiletic997 3 жыл бұрын
For reference you can reset the timing on the pump yourself.All you need is an injectior tester and a degree wheel on the pump shaft. Apply 30 bar pressure to No1 port using the injector tester, turn it in the direction of rotation until the shaft locks. Mark the degree wheel and release pressure. After that turn the pump forward, info on correct timing is hard to find but 5-6 degrees pump (10-12 degrees engine) should get most engines running ok. Lock the pump and install at engine TDC. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/raqPqJBmmJicdHk.html From 5:55 it shows how to set timing
@geraldswain3259
@geraldswain3259 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Jonathon, what was the problem with this project ,as I have not seen any follow ups since !. Regards from the UK.
@duncannjuguna8225
@duncannjuguna8225 6 жыл бұрын
Gerald Swain i do power generation with Perkins engines
@ovidiovalladares3310
@ovidiovalladares3310 7 жыл бұрын
Pretty the same with Cat 3054 now C4.4 but the Perkins outlast those by far
@MRrwmac
@MRrwmac 7 жыл бұрын
Johnathan, I didn't see the next video on the Perkins injector pump problem resolution? Did I miss it or did you roll it into another video?
@jonathanw4942
@jonathanw4942 7 жыл бұрын
just picked up my transmission for this engine and will be back on it soon with a video.
@MRrwmac
@MRrwmac 7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan W Oh ok Thanks. Hope to see how you got the injector pump worked out?
@xccxvindaloo
@xccxvindaloo 7 жыл бұрын
MRrwmac I too would like to see the final result/cause to the problem 👍👍
@voltron63
@voltron63 7 жыл бұрын
need to build a boat,,,,,
@tannerwimer
@tannerwimer 7 жыл бұрын
I thought that's what it was the injector pump is probably clogged, it sludged up and stuck
@morgansword
@morgansword 5 жыл бұрын
Well I Didn't count how many times you did start it but what is one more time so you know about vacuum if it builds it or not. I know that some vacuum pumps act as a governor for the engine. Just saying don't make it true in this case. I love these videos buddy... Jonathan. I just though that being too lazy to write your whole name is a bad thing to do so I hope I didn't mean to offend you in any way! A great channel
@chinbin2006
@chinbin2006 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Johnathan. There is a loud whirring noise I can here, that doesn't sound right. It sounds like a gear rubbing on the front cover? Is it coming from the injector pump? sure doesn't sound right!!
@jonathanw4942
@jonathanw4942 7 жыл бұрын
Coming from the hole where the water pump mounts, I heard it and have a full team of investigators on it, well I am on it anyway!!
@chinbin2006
@chinbin2006 7 жыл бұрын
Go Team!! Don't want to teach you to suck eggs but...... have you tried the screw driver to the ear trick? pinpoint the source, Iv'e worked on many diesels here in the UK but never heard that type of noise!! Could it be the vac pump working to air? Hmm.......I do like a mystery!!!!!
@safetyfirstintexas
@safetyfirstintexas 7 жыл бұрын
have you dial indicated the run out of the fuel injector/water pump drive gear? may be someone didnt respect the master spline orientation of the splines ( if it runs maxed out in one direction) that would make the whine we hear. it should have an adjustable range on the slotted adjustmentat at the pump block interface. being off one spline could cause loss of adjustment range.
@jonathanw4942
@jonathanw4942 7 жыл бұрын
No, but a friend that works at a forklift company put a new $1800 injector pump on a 4.2 and the engine went two weeks later. They junked the lift and sold me the injector pump for $100, so I have a new one when I get time to get back to that engine.
@safetyfirstintexas
@safetyfirstintexas 7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan W love it when a plan comes together
@donc81
@donc81 7 жыл бұрын
Johnathon, could the arm from the fuel pump be loose on the shaft? Stripped splines, loose nut etc?
@jonathanw4942
@jonathanw4942 7 жыл бұрын
It's not, but I have a feeling it is the gov. spring. When you start it with the throttle wide open, it revs but the rpm's force it back to idle.
@donc81
@donc81 7 жыл бұрын
+Jonathan W you're probably right. Was hoping it might be a simple little fix
@cableandchain
@cableandchain 6 жыл бұрын
sucking air is my guess thats what happen to our fork lift it run but whould not go at all
@ervingoertzen7233
@ervingoertzen7233 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly where did this Perkins come out of ? Farm equipment ?
@rogerthomas1982
@rogerthomas1982 3 жыл бұрын
It looks exactly like the one used in a Hyster H100XL forklift.
@Chr.U.Cas2216
@Chr.U.Cas2216 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing a hammer can't fix!? ;-) :-)
@bilyaminuzubairu4907
@bilyaminuzubairu4907 6 жыл бұрын
pls how to calibrate injector nozzle of 2500 series.
@duncannjuguna8225
@duncannjuguna8225 6 жыл бұрын
Bilyaminu Zubairu solution is to buy ones
@pauljohansson7697
@pauljohansson7697 5 жыл бұрын
Forget about it.
@vivk202jz9
@vivk202jz9 4 жыл бұрын
Take the pump out have it fixed put it back, it will run forever if you ask me!!
@alastairwaters9114
@alastairwaters9114 4 жыл бұрын
Fuel metering valve
@thundergut6539
@thundergut6539 7 жыл бұрын
Harbor Freight sells the tamper proof bits for cheap
@jonathanw4942
@jonathanw4942 7 жыл бұрын
Can't never seem to get there. It's about 35 miles away.
@sonsofthunder915
@sonsofthunder915 7 жыл бұрын
Shop online-------> twitter.com/HarborFreight?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
@codyforsythe319
@codyforsythe319 7 жыл бұрын
they don't make that engine anymore...good luck getting parts
@mikejaques6573
@mikejaques6573 6 жыл бұрын
I run one in my tractor and no problem with parts. I run Detroits in my buses and parts are abundant
@PapaJ5667
@PapaJ5667 5 жыл бұрын
There are alot of engines not in production anymore ...that doesnt mean there aren't any parts still left
@kooldoozer
@kooldoozer 7 жыл бұрын
Broken governor spring is my guess.
@jonathanw4942
@jonathanw4942 7 жыл бұрын
Mine too!!
@pauljohansson7697
@pauljohansson7697 5 жыл бұрын
How on earth do you adjust the timing on a diesel engine.
@jonathanw4942
@jonathanw4942 5 жыл бұрын
By turning the pump it works the same as a distributor
@timerickson7056
@timerickson7056 4 жыл бұрын
I was wrong about sticky injectors
@boobayloo
@boobayloo 6 жыл бұрын
Since I can't find another video about the continuation to this engine project, I guess you gave up and never fixed...
@vivk202jz9
@vivk202jz9 4 жыл бұрын
Jaaaaaaaa u bet.
@louisnemick317
@louisnemick317 7 жыл бұрын
Could it be sucking air
@youramnandram4355
@youramnandram4355 7 жыл бұрын
metering valve sleep..
@jlletaw1954
@jlletaw1954 7 жыл бұрын
maybe they run it out of fuel & it picked up some trash out of the tank
@cranki6316
@cranki6316 7 жыл бұрын
BFH to the rescue!
@jonathanw4942
@jonathanw4942 7 жыл бұрын
Wasn't big enough!!
@cranki6316
@cranki6316 7 жыл бұрын
Dang
@frabciscobarajas6920
@frabciscobarajas6920 7 жыл бұрын
what country make perkins? nice video, muy interesante
@alynicholls3230
@alynicholls3230 7 жыл бұрын
england
@duncannjuguna8225
@duncannjuguna8225 6 жыл бұрын
The best engines in the world...
@laiqatbai1692
@laiqatbai1692 4 жыл бұрын
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