That engine sounds ten times better than the other day. you are doing great. you are getting things sorted out.
@burlatsdemontaigne61477 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty smooth at idle. Good work!
@louisnemick3177 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information Jonathan
@justina2494 жыл бұрын
My dad taught me how to run a backhoe on a late 80s model Cat 416 when i was a kid. Even though its been so many years ago hearing that motor run made it feel like it was yesterday. Such sweet memories. That Perkins is a dang good engine
@mikec68925 жыл бұрын
Vintage Jonathan great information. Thank you. Great video .
@TheDaf95xf6 жыл бұрын
Lovely little engine Johnathan 😊
@rickyheardsr.74267 жыл бұрын
I worked on this type of equipment for 40 years .Perkins in lift trucks and other industrial equipment and it looks like someone who did not know how to work on them has got the inj. pump messed up and you are going to have to remove the pump ,take it apart and check internal parts ,fuel shaft gov springs and other internals.This should be done in a clean room for inj. pumps ,small amount of dirt or debris will damage pump internals.
@wesleybearden95675 жыл бұрын
Ricky Heard Sr. W
@jeffleblanc88506 жыл бұрын
Diesels are wonderful trying to figure out the prob every body has a different opinion on what it is that’s wrong with it I find they are easier to work on so longs your turbo if you have one isn’t in the way I’d say you are in the right direction to fix it great video I’m about ready to go fire my ole 6.5 up after head gasket change hope it holds together I should have decked the block but not rich and the motor was still in truck I don’t have the space or shop to take motor out good video
@OnlyTheEd7 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@sonsofthunder9157 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those fuel distributors (injector pumps) can cause a real fit.
@fixinggrace7 жыл бұрын
It runs nice and quiet for a diesel with no muffler.
@Diesel82905 жыл бұрын
Either something happened the governor or the fuel control rod inside the pump is seized. Common issue on old engines that have sat. Don’t be afraid of injection pumps. There not as complicated as one would think
@olnamgrunt98574 жыл бұрын
J,W follow the govern problem, good vid thanks
@buzzsah7 жыл бұрын
That would look good in my tractor :)
@motorhead67637 жыл бұрын
CAT bought them I have one turbo motor excellent engine.
@leyland99997 жыл бұрын
I do not like rotation pumps at all. We have them on our Leyland engines and they can be a pain. So we do not mess with them just take them off and have them fixed. We have several on the shelf just in case. Replacing them with a factory fresh one is cheaper then have them fixed by the way. Labour costs spoils the benefits of having them fixed.
@jackbertram55767 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah.
@eugeneoreilly93564 жыл бұрын
There is no master spline on the pump drive shaft on those later phaser and 1000 series Perkins engines.There is a locknut on the front off the pump to lock the drive at no 1 TDC.You will have to remove timing cover to line up cam gear and pump drive markings as there is no external timing marks on pump.The locking nut on pump should not be forced but should screw in by hand to lock pump when 1 cylinder is approaching TDC.Older engines with the master drive spline were easier to time.
@hubertrobinson88253 жыл бұрын
If that's like the older Cav injection pump that lever you move got a little offset dowel on end that moves a slide bar maybe it jumped off on the side door it's timed on the letter E when no 1 is on top dead center it's been over 20yrs since I've been inside one of them I might off those you could've moved the pump right or left for minor adjustments too
@safetyfirstintexas7 жыл бұрын
look for a witness mark on the block aluminum housing and the witness mark on the triangle injector pump base; as there were screws missing. the engine looks like a modern 4.248 (4 cil. 248 cid.) in my massey ferguson brazil 283.
@eugeneoreilly93564 жыл бұрын
Those, later generations didn't have timing mark on the pump flange.Instead there is a locking nut on the front off pump to lock pump drive shaft in fixed position.You then remove timing cover and cam and pump drive gears should line up.Greetings from Ireland.
@gustavoferraro29025 жыл бұрын
jammed accelerator , some of those pumps use oil inside ,they are quite complex , I got to fix one of an international motor of 1850 , greetings from Argentina
@Lfig0127 жыл бұрын
injector pump shaft has splines & a master spline.
@jonathanw49427 жыл бұрын
If so, it may be a tooth off. It runs adjusted all the way one way.
@deezelfairy6 жыл бұрын
Lfig Lfig just for reference this perkins engine DOES NOT have a master spline on the injection pump, it's a pressed on taper fit hub and a vernier adjustable gear is bolted to that. The factory manual explicitly tells you not to remove the taper fit hub or you loose the timing and your in trouble.
@petarmiletic9973 жыл бұрын
For reference you can reset the timing on the pump yourself.All you need is an injectior tester and a degree wheel on the pump shaft. Apply 30 bar pressure to No1 port using the injector tester, turn it in the direction of rotation until the shaft locks. Mark the degree wheel and release pressure. After that turn the pump forward, info on correct timing is hard to find but 5-6 degrees pump (10-12 degrees engine) should get most engines running ok. Lock the pump and install at engine TDC. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/raqPqJBmmJicdHk.html From 5:55 it shows how to set timing
@geraldswain32596 жыл бұрын
Hi Jonathon, what was the problem with this project ,as I have not seen any follow ups since !. Regards from the UK.
@duncannjuguna82256 жыл бұрын
Gerald Swain i do power generation with Perkins engines
@ovidiovalladares33107 жыл бұрын
Pretty the same with Cat 3054 now C4.4 but the Perkins outlast those by far
@MRrwmac7 жыл бұрын
Johnathan, I didn't see the next video on the Perkins injector pump problem resolution? Did I miss it or did you roll it into another video?
@jonathanw49427 жыл бұрын
just picked up my transmission for this engine and will be back on it soon with a video.
@MRrwmac7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan W Oh ok Thanks. Hope to see how you got the injector pump worked out?
@xccxvindaloo7 жыл бұрын
MRrwmac I too would like to see the final result/cause to the problem 👍👍
@voltron637 жыл бұрын
need to build a boat,,,,,
@tannerwimer7 жыл бұрын
I thought that's what it was the injector pump is probably clogged, it sludged up and stuck
@morgansword5 жыл бұрын
Well I Didn't count how many times you did start it but what is one more time so you know about vacuum if it builds it or not. I know that some vacuum pumps act as a governor for the engine. Just saying don't make it true in this case. I love these videos buddy... Jonathan. I just though that being too lazy to write your whole name is a bad thing to do so I hope I didn't mean to offend you in any way! A great channel
@chinbin20067 жыл бұрын
Hi Johnathan. There is a loud whirring noise I can here, that doesn't sound right. It sounds like a gear rubbing on the front cover? Is it coming from the injector pump? sure doesn't sound right!!
@jonathanw49427 жыл бұрын
Coming from the hole where the water pump mounts, I heard it and have a full team of investigators on it, well I am on it anyway!!
@chinbin20067 жыл бұрын
Go Team!! Don't want to teach you to suck eggs but...... have you tried the screw driver to the ear trick? pinpoint the source, Iv'e worked on many diesels here in the UK but never heard that type of noise!! Could it be the vac pump working to air? Hmm.......I do like a mystery!!!!!
@safetyfirstintexas7 жыл бұрын
have you dial indicated the run out of the fuel injector/water pump drive gear? may be someone didnt respect the master spline orientation of the splines ( if it runs maxed out in one direction) that would make the whine we hear. it should have an adjustable range on the slotted adjustmentat at the pump block interface. being off one spline could cause loss of adjustment range.
@jonathanw49427 жыл бұрын
No, but a friend that works at a forklift company put a new $1800 injector pump on a 4.2 and the engine went two weeks later. They junked the lift and sold me the injector pump for $100, so I have a new one when I get time to get back to that engine.
@safetyfirstintexas7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan W love it when a plan comes together
@donc817 жыл бұрын
Johnathon, could the arm from the fuel pump be loose on the shaft? Stripped splines, loose nut etc?
@jonathanw49427 жыл бұрын
It's not, but I have a feeling it is the gov. spring. When you start it with the throttle wide open, it revs but the rpm's force it back to idle.
@donc817 жыл бұрын
+Jonathan W you're probably right. Was hoping it might be a simple little fix
@cableandchain6 жыл бұрын
sucking air is my guess thats what happen to our fork lift it run but whould not go at all
@ervingoertzen72337 жыл бұрын
Exactly where did this Perkins come out of ? Farm equipment ?
@rogerthomas19823 жыл бұрын
It looks exactly like the one used in a Hyster H100XL forklift.
@Chr.U.Cas22164 жыл бұрын
Nothing a hammer can't fix!? ;-) :-)
@bilyaminuzubairu49076 жыл бұрын
pls how to calibrate injector nozzle of 2500 series.
@duncannjuguna82256 жыл бұрын
Bilyaminu Zubairu solution is to buy ones
@pauljohansson76975 жыл бұрын
Forget about it.
@vivk202jz94 жыл бұрын
Take the pump out have it fixed put it back, it will run forever if you ask me!!
@alastairwaters91144 жыл бұрын
Fuel metering valve
@thundergut65397 жыл бұрын
Harbor Freight sells the tamper proof bits for cheap
@jonathanw49427 жыл бұрын
Can't never seem to get there. It's about 35 miles away.