Porsche 356C Project #4: How to Time your Engine PERFECTLY!

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Ever been confused about engine timing? I go through the electrical timing with a few extra goodies thrown in!
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@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Everyone, ever been confused about engine timing? I go through the electrical timing with a few extra goodies thrown in! Enjoy!

@gordonmack9948 2 жыл бұрын

I have been watching all your videos and l have learnt a lot to work on my 71 VW beetle, I would like to say your videos are the best on KZfaq.

@Elvisking1977 Жыл бұрын

Your video quality, camera angles, and voice over audibility and content are all excellent. A few instances of near-field focus issues, but I'm nitpicking. Defo the full five stars.

@s.hall.4187 4 жыл бұрын

You're changing the way we approach auto maintenance!!! Another master lesson in tuning.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Yea!

@ashleyjames308 4 жыл бұрын

It’s always worth hearing copper washers to red and quenching them, then a good seal is guaranteed. Your videos are excellent, just so easy to understand.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

That's a great tip! I've done that before. I try to sand them smooth first. One of those washers was pretty done! That one was way easier to just replace.

@johnspecht72 4 жыл бұрын

I was confident that you would show how timing was done and looked forward to you doing so. You did even better than that! The way you recorded what the timing light did was perfect, This video was universally excellent in showing how to time an engine. This is how to do all training. You are a master of the three C's. Calm, competent, and concise! Excellent work Franny!

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks John! You are always so sweet :)

@lenny108 4 жыл бұрын

Fran is so expert to instruct all these Porsche owners out there that one can easily imagine how Porsche car repair-shop owners are throwing themselves to the ground and gnashing teeth that nobody is showing up anymore at their garage.

@elvenwizard12 4 жыл бұрын

Heidi your a awesome mechanic:) Enjoyed the video.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@fgjf1079 3 жыл бұрын

I have the Innova 5568 timing light. Works great, and it even has dwell reading. It’s not really useful for setting static timing or setting points, but it’s good for double checking the dwell angle when replacing points. I see the dwell function on my timing light to be more useful on a GM type distributor, where you can adjust point with engine running.

@darryldeppe3228 4 жыл бұрын

Franny, I thought I was Mr. Know-it-All about my 356C but learned why my 12-volt timing light didn't work on my 6-volt car from this video... I didn't use a ground wire between the 12-volt battery and the car as a "voltage reference" and now I will! This is the first "how-to" video on KZfaq I've used that wasn't some shade tree bubba using one hand to hold the cell phone camera using technical terms like "doo-hicky" and "thing-a-ma-jig" to describe his first time attempting a particular repair! I love your precise, correct terminology delivered in a relaxed and humble manner while never getting any schmutz on your pink sweater or catching your pearls on moving parts! You have a new fan... especially given the fact I own a 3.2 Carrera I work on myself too! P.S. I grew up in Loveland, just up the road and love the dry winter driving scenes, something I miss here in Seattle! Thanks! Darryl @ darrylsgarage.com

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Darryl, this is a bit more of a vlog. We have a DIY here. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qpqGoMKAscDWhGQ.html

@Zincaloom 4 жыл бұрын

Another great and informative video. Fantastic photography getting in all the tight spaces and catching the timing marks. Thanks.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jimwilson8509 4 жыл бұрын

or Do note a lot of these switches will leak at some point in their life, so extra sealing is needed to ensure they will not leak. Green (290) Wicking Loctite is a good start as it will wick down around the plastic where the outer steel body is crimped around the switch and also down into where the electrical terminals protrude from the plastic. Doing this in the inverted position and letting it set with the threaded portion of the switch pointed upwards for 12--24 hrs is the way this is achieved. Once the above has been done then wipe the switch clean with alcohol (no sprays please) and then use some adhesive sealant like YahmaBond, HondaBond or any adhesive sealant that is oil/gas resistant to the areas where trans oil can leak out as described above. Let this sit for 1--2 days and this will seal the switch nicely.

@earlsmithson4749 4 жыл бұрын

Another great one Ladies. Having an adjustable timing light is great.

@paulmonte7642 4 жыл бұрын

I never miss a video from Franny... learn something new every time. Didn't know she's from Michigan, thought she was a California girl.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Lol, Florida actually :) The car is from Michigan though ;)

@Abrothers100 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, I loved it!

@malcolmscott4150 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant work - such a nice car 😍

@jamesanderson83 4 жыл бұрын

Doing it right. Good job 👍 Franny.

@katherinewelling6026 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this. 👍🏻

@johnmckinstry8546 4 жыл бұрын

Another fabulous video. You are a beacon to females everywhere reinforcing that you don't have to be male to work on cars. I learn something from every one of your videos. Keep up the excellent work.

@josephcalvet3296 4 жыл бұрын

I have been watching your videos for a couple of years now, you are awesome! I have a 68 912.

@vwcol..7719 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as always very well explained a pleasure to watch😊

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@PatsGarageOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! Thorough as always and great audio/video/editing as well. Learning something new every video. Thanks!

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Pat!

@JakobKsGarage 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I just set it to 5 BTDC on my '62 S90 and it runs very smooth now 👍

@andreasvenator 3 жыл бұрын

Always a joy to visit... that Ruby Red is quite a color. Been looking for a "Bra" (for lack of a better word) for the back motor compartment but I haven´t found a vendor yet here in Porscheland. This is the third time I watch Franny do this and its always nice to see this tune-up work in progress. Stay happy and healthy! I got the crows foot as well in 24 mm (for the sender) as well as for seating the crank seal in the third piece, great...saves one more expensive Porsche tool!

@Paulman50 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to see you rolled the timing on past the 30, now I feel a lot better because I set mine to 34. I think the factory calabrations on my timing wheel are 2 degrees out anyway.

@secoff1 4 жыл бұрын

That extra bit of advance you put in the timing you will be able to feel in the seat of your pants. I think the owner will appreciate this. Very similat to the beetle. BTW I love the electronic points and havent messed withe old school points in years. Indy

@alexmestas2128 4 жыл бұрын

Franny I wish you were my Mechanic! Your awesome! Thanks for another great training video.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex!

@johnyoung8103 4 жыл бұрын

Thank You Always Amazing !!! :)

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks John!

@marcosdias1987 4 жыл бұрын

Greetings from brazil, very good your work. Good job.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!!

@johnblunt1834 4 жыл бұрын

Always a delight to watch these programes, and on top of that I've learnt a few useful procedures today. Thanks both! Have a good weekend, John UK

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

You will like the next one for sure then. Lots of little nuggets. I know I learned a lot. Heidi

@johnblunt1834 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear from you Heidi. Been visiting the family in Catalunya. I'm looking forward to your next one. Best wishes for you both. (Don't forget the memories) 🙂👋

@anthonydiubaldi6475 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Franny. Great video. Would love to see some video of you guys driving these cars in the video after the maintainance is done.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Will do!

@freerkderuiter8822 4 жыл бұрын

Job well done. The engine sounds sweet :) Good tip on backing up the engine to take out the play on the gears. Thumbs up!

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Freerk!

@freerkderuiter8822 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome :)

@rpat356sc 4 жыл бұрын

Always enjoy your videos. You mentioned that the next one will be on rebuilding the Zenith carbs, will you also be doing one(please, please) on the Solex carbs? Take care and happy motoring especially in a 356.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

I don't have a access to a solex, but the process is pretty much the same... Hopefully it will help...

@bendangofonterra9508 3 жыл бұрын

Great videos - I really like your personality. I really like seeing more women making car maintenance videos.

@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@alanpershing9382 4 жыл бұрын

Franny kills it again! I've used her other videos to replace spark plugs and wires in my 356, adjust valves, tune my carbs, replace the VW distributor with the correct Bosch version and set the static timing. I figured out how to clean up the rough idle on my own. Now the car is idling and running better than it ever has. Had a question; when I use the timing light, I'm getting dead-on 35 degrees at 3,000 RPM but my idle is 15 degrees at 1,200 RPM (I set the idle a bit high on purpose). Is that in the range and, if not, what do I do?

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

That sounds about right... You won't see the static advance much above 900rpm. Probably best to set the static and just check the max at 3000rpm. Glad the videos are helpful!

@booker42 4 жыл бұрын

Firstly, thank you so much for your work. I've enjoyed your videos for along time and was very excited to see this series as I own a 1964 356C. There are so few instructional videos our there for these cars and this is fantastic! Question regarding this specific video, I had always thought one need to set the gap on new spark plugs. Am I mistaken? Do these plugs come with the gaps already set for the specific vehicle? I'm no expert, so please educate me! Thanks again!

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Great question! I filmed a bit on the gap, but forgot to put it in?? Arg... I believe the gap is to be 0.020-0.024". I did gap these and they were closer to the 0.024" so I didn't adjust them. That tiny center pin is pretty delicate so be gentle even just testing them. Great catch!

@vintage76vipergreenBeetle 4 жыл бұрын

👍 Great info on the timing.

@judih.8754 4 жыл бұрын

Great! I love your videos as you are always so informative, with good descriptions of what you are working on. I liked seeing the adjustable timing light being used as I never knew how they worked. I'm always amazed at how clean you keep your pink fleece, but the cars are pretty clean to start with. Quick question, what's with the black year designation on the license plate? It appears to have been added on top of the plate.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Judi, I believe that is an original plate from that year. Several states (Colorado included) will allow you to use an original plate to register the car. Ya know,... It might be an actual piece added to the plate. It isn't a sticker... I'll check next time I see the car again.

@judih.8754 4 жыл бұрын

@@HeidiandFranny thanks. It looks like a metal piece. In NH you can display an older plate too, but you have to have a current one in the car IIRC.

@johnhowell316 4 жыл бұрын

I would love to know the when, how and where you learned to do these things. I find it totally fascinating. Good luck the rest of the way and thanks for an awesome video.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Gosh... Many years ago... I cut my teeth on air-cooled Beetles. John Muir's book is amazing ;) The rest is just lots of research. Manuals, forums, etc. LOTS of trial and error (lots of the error bit as well...)

@johnhowell316 4 жыл бұрын

Heidi and Franny's Garage thank you! I would have guessed you grew up in a garage. Lol! You really know your stuff!

@ericmckinley368 4 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy these videos, very helpful. Franny, am I correct in saying that the spark plug socket is a size 14mm for the NGK plugs. The small green wrench you use, can I ask where you sourced this also, I like the rotating action on the head.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

I'd have to go look, but it is the "bigger" sparkplug size. That little green ratchet came from Harbor Freight believe it or not. Love that little guy!

@jamestharp7880 4 жыл бұрын

Hi again Franny, (my auto spell changed your name to Frankie last time, sorry about that.) What brand and where did you find that cute swivel drive 3/8 ratchet? Keep up the good work! I love your teaching style. Also what is the type of the NKG spark plugs that you like so much? My car is a pre A 55 coupe. When I rebuilt the engine using the maestros books in 1983 I made a few mistakes that have led to hard to find oil leaks. Loved your method of finding leaks on the Beck Spyder. Thanks Jim

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Hi James, That came from Harbor Freight believe it or not... It has been great! I prefer the Iridium or the Bosch Platinum. Others say the copper work better, but for me the Bosch Platinum give a smoother idle.

@jimwilson8509 4 жыл бұрын

recommends painting a new switch where the plastic meets the metal with SUZUKI 1207B - b4 replacement.

@J.W.W. 4 жыл бұрын

Updated channel name: Heidi and Franny’s Perfectionist Garage 👍

@88M5er 4 жыл бұрын

Heidi, great teaching video. Thanks. I have a question about the spark plugs? I'm a gear head probably older than you. I have a few 80's and older BMW's and we have found the Iridium spark plugs to not work very well in older engines. They don't burn as completely. We much prefer the square tip electrode like a Bosch Platinum plug uses. I'm not arguing brand here just the design style. This style is what came in these engines including this 356 engine you are working on in this video. Just saying.........

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

I hear ya... I've seen and heard that too... I did an A/B test with both types in our little 356 and in the 3.2 Carrera - both brand new and gapped sets and the new style plugs were noticably better in both cases... BUT of course use what you feel is the best for your car. This was just my experience. Thanks for adding your experience!

@targabill 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video...But I think, could be wrong, when static timing you rotate until the points just OPEN not "close"as mentioned.. You get 6/12v on your meter when the points are opened.. You can use a screwdriver to open and close the points and watch the meter to verify this..

@randyallen2771 4 жыл бұрын

Really like this series, guess I'm partial to old bath tub Porsches. By the way, Champion makes a "spark plug lubricant" that is a thin dark liquid (applicator brush in the cap) that I suspect is moly or graphite. I use it for changing plugs in motor bikes' aluminum heads. Perhaps it would be more palatable to Porsche. Please let us know how the car runs on your test "tootle".

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Will do! One of the upcoming videos has my driving thoughts...

@geerstyresoil3136 4 жыл бұрын

another great video, do you have a link to that spark plug universal joint tool?

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I don't... I got it at a swap meet actually... There has to be something like it out there or you can get a plug-in universal joint...

@zonoscopePictures 4 жыл бұрын

Where did you get that extendable socket wrench?? (Forgive me if I've asked you this already!) Love the vids.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

You can find those at Harbor Freight believe it or not :)

@conceptalfa 2 жыл бұрын

👍 👍 👍

@BrianMiller 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as always. I hope in the Zenith Carb video you chat a bit about Ethanol fuel, what it does to these older fuel systems, and what owners can do to help protect the carbs and fuel lines for driving and storage. I think this is one of the biggest challenges to keeping our older carbureted Porsches on the road.

@pitstoptr3 4 жыл бұрын

Have you had good luck with the iridium plugs on these older engines? I have not had good luck with anything but copper on my 83 911sc. Obviously the copper electrodes don’t last as long but in my humble opinion the copper plugs are the way to go.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

I only use the iridium and platinum plugs in these engines... In both the 356 and the 3.2 (and the 308) it made a noticeable difference stabilizing the idle. That's interesting you have had bad luck with them. But, you should totally use what you feel works the best. Thanks for the comment :)

@ANDRE-VW 4 жыл бұрын

Hello Franny, please, is this anti seize grease a cooper grease? Could you inform the composition or the brand of It? So I can search at internet. Thanks a lot.

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I put the tools in the video. It is in the description now. Permatex Anti-Seize Aluminium (not copper). amzn.to/2R9lYmn Heidi

@kentvonseverin1257 2 жыл бұрын

So, If I am doing this by eye, I want the points to close concurrent with the 5d BTDC?

@HeidiandFranny 2 жыл бұрын

You should have a mark or a notch on your pully. With the distributor cap off (very important) and the ignition on you will hear the slight arc across the points. But, so easy to use a meter or a simple lightbulb.

@tommyestridge9301 4 жыл бұрын

I remember fiddling with those crush washers on my SC, and then when I got a '69 911E was told to throw away those crush washers when changing the plugs. Do you know why Porsche changed the procedure?

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Just that the anti-sieze can mess with the conductivity... I think the crush washers should be there though... I've never heard of removing them...

@neilbardsley 4 жыл бұрын

I don't trust the adv timing on my light so I always leave a 0 them mark the flywheel

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

If you know your distributor, you can always time statically with these cars...

@RHBhbsInc 3 жыл бұрын

Is this all good for the '64 SC as well as the C? I replaced my '64 SC carbs with Weber 40 IDFs and the cylinders with 85 mm big bores. Does that effect the timing? It works great above 2,000 rpm but stalls out at 900 - 1,000 when coming to a stop. Just did these changes, so I'm not sure what I don't know.

@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a mixture issue... It may be that your idle jets are a bit small. Hard to say. I don't think it is a timing issue. Do you have access to a local shop that can tune it for you?

@SgtS0apy 2 жыл бұрын

hey i was curious how you got the front two spark plugs out my socket never wants to seat down in there. almost like the heat shield is in the way

@HeidiandFranny 2 жыл бұрын

My socket has a universal joint actually built into the base. It works really well. It can be a little tricky to get a normal socket in the right spot.

@SgtS0apy 2 жыл бұрын

@@HeidiandFranny i just figured a normal socket wouldnt fit ill head to harbor freight in the morning

@SgtS0apy 2 жыл бұрын

@@HeidiandFranny what size socket it the spark plug

@SgtS0apy 2 жыл бұрын

@@HeidiandFranny So on the front two spark plugs there seems to be something in the way of getting the socket to even seat on the spark plug.

@newvilla8115 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you: do you know the advance degree for a 912 engine?

@HeidiandFranny 2 жыл бұрын

I think about 32 deg at max advance (2500-3000rpm)

@newvilla8115 2 жыл бұрын

@@HeidiandFranny thanks

@pknguyen3482 4 жыл бұрын

Franny, may I get the brand name and model number of your analog meter. If possible a link to where I can buy one. Thanks

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

It is an Actron CP7605. I did find one at Summit Racing: www.summitracing.com/parts/anm-cp7605

@caduceus33 4 жыл бұрын

Just a kiss of Anti-Seize!:) One of those bottles could probably last me about three lifetimes of auto repair and maintenance.Franny, its so nice to see you so well dressed working on your cars, necklace and earrings included! How do you remove a smudge of grease from your clothes if you occasionally get a bit on you?

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Funny, but the best I have found is the cheap clear hand soap from the dollar store. It works better than Goop, etc. and it smells nice!

@scottalvey1787 2 жыл бұрын

How does this car have electronic points? It’s 6V correct? I have 65 VW beetle 6 V, are they troublesome?

@HeidiandFranny 2 жыл бұрын

Gosh, I think this car was converted to 12V but I don't remember. But I have seen 6V versions of the electronic points.

@gilbertsanchez2568 4 жыл бұрын

I have. The same engine analyzer ,thanks for letting me know how to use it to static time a pointless ignition ')

@meporfo66 4 жыл бұрын

😉👍👍👍

@perjanuschas8050 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video as always, but Franny, your starting to sound like my mom. She can never remember what things are called anymore, so it's this guy, and this guy, and this guy, and.......I wish you'd call out all these various "this guy's" with their proper/correct name... that'd make it easier to follow what you're really doing..

@pknguyen3482 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video. I have the exact same car and would like to know the exact spark plug you are using for this repair. From what I gather it’s the Ngk iridium ix bpr6hix 4085...can you confirm. Thanks in advance

@HeidiandFranny 4 жыл бұрын

Yup! that's it.