Agreed. I know you see it too.. over here in a southern large University town, the difference between men and students is the price of their toys..getting a diesel workhorse ceramic coated to never see woods or hard work, just hauling yeti coolers and backpacks, and their sweetie pie..and the amount of new lifted custom diesel pavement pounders bought by Mom and Dad is astounding.

Yes, I do sound jealous.

@@jefflancaster6587 not at all jealous if someone needs or owns a diesel.

You hit a lot of great points. I agree with a good chunk of what you say. I tow a 12k Dump trailer a lot in the summer. Prior to my 250, I had a 2015 chevy 1500 5.3 gasser. Although the truck was legally able to tow most of what I had in the back, it just didn't give me any confidence while towing. The engine would scream going up hills, stability was ehh and the transmission just didn't feel like it could handle it. The 250 diesel is just a beast and it gives me the confidence I need while towing. But yes it is very expensive up front. Someone must carefully consider their financial situation prior to purchasing something this expensive. It took me years of hard work and savings to put myself into a position where I could afford it. Is it practical as a daily driver? Yes and No. Even though I am getting about 20 mpg, there are far more fuel efficient vehicles out there. But for a safety aspect, I feel a lot safer driving that truck over driving a Honda Civic. It's also very versatile, as I can turn on the 4x4 and drive through snow, and I have the power to pull someone out of the ditch if they get stuck. I've through about getting a commuter car, but after I added the cost to purchase sed car, maintenance on that car, plus registration and insurance, it makes more sense to just have one "do it all" vehicle. I think their is a lot of truth to the Diesel truck being a symbol of American man hood. To me, its a trophy that symbolizes my hard work and financial responsibly. How I maintain it, symbolizes how I treat the people and things I care about. The Truck symbolizes me. Will diesel trucks be extinct in 20 years? I don't think so. 45, maybe. The dems are pushing for alternative fuel trucks and i'm not opposed at all to it. But we clearly aren't ready for that transition. I could see a small push for more natural gas powered vehicles in the short term. More importantly, Lithium batteries are not the way/ Solution. The Lithium batteries for semi trucks are going to weigh the truck down so much, that the cargo capacity will likely be reduced in half. Plus Lithium can't be recycled into new batteries, so new lithium must constantly be mined by diesel powered earth movers. I think we will transition into more bio-diesel short term. Then I expect we see a push to hydrogen powered cars and trucks. I think hydrogen is the way of the future. Along with nuclear Fusion power generation. I understand oil is a limited resource and we do need to transition, but now is not the time.

I'm late to the conversation but I agree with your assessment and timeline. Here's the BUT....the used market is getting flooded with vehicles, specifically trucks, computer chip mfg.'s are catching up, and of course the economic market is what it is, suggests that supply is will outpace demand. sadly, as you commented, most people pull maybe 2 or 3 times a yr. and they're upside down for sure. 72 month notes are a thing of the past as this is why people are upside down(Walking on the ceiling). If you have the cash, not finance but CASH, There are some nice deals(?) if you can handle the accelerated depreciation. At this point its a crap shoot

Owning more than 2 guns has absolutely no parallels whatsoever to the points being made in regards to a diesel as a commuter. I agree, it's a bit foolish to use a diesel as a commuter like a lot of people do, although I would say the same thing about driving a 4x4 truck when it's a pavement queen. Guns however are completely different. For starters, More than 2 guns is more than easy depending on the purpose it's used for. A gun is a tool like anything else. My Remington 700 for hunting is not a rifle I would use for home defense, my AR15 that I would use for home defense is not something I would use for hunting. My long 12 gauge shotgun that is good for hunting, is not ideal as a defensive shotgun, my police 870 on the other hand is the opposite of that. My full size pistol is good as a duty weapon or open carry, but not great for a conceal carry. My subcompact is great for concealed carry, but not that great as a full sized service weapon depending on the purpose and job. My AR is not good as a ranch working rifle, whereas a lever action such as an 1894 is more ideal if you're using it on horseback. My semiautomatic handgun is not great as a woods gun because if needed for an animal attack which is in close proximity, a revolver serves you much better, so I carry a .357 in the woods.... Saying that "owning more than 2 guns is nothing more than a status symbol of manhood and men aren't being honest about that," is a foolish statement. it's completely ignorant of the fact that weapons are tools and used differently depending on the situation and purpose. Just like a diesel truck is a tool that should be used if you're doing serious heavy hauling, and a bit foolish to say the least, as a daily commute vehicle. However comparing that to the ownership of guns? A very silly statement indeed

@@OldSoulMillennial lithium batteries are lighter and stronger than lead acid, LTO is virtually indestructible and can be punctured and cut and it will not arc or explode. Only when you short it

I absolutely agree with the original post. I live in Texas, the truck capital of the United States. I see every day, city boys commuting to work in suit and tie with a new F250 Platinum or Limited diesel 4x4 that doesn't even have a tow hitch in the rear. I often ask these guys if I see them in the parking lot if they ever tow with their vehicles, and the vast majority of them told me no. It is ridiculous to me to drive a $90,000 to $100,000 vehicle for commuting to work in downtown Houston. I don't care how much money you have, it is just silly. Even if I was a millionaire, if I never towed anything, I would probably be driving a tricked out full size SUV if I just wanted the size/comfort/status symbol. A fully upgraded expedition or suburban would be a much nicer ride and much more practical.

Nothing noticeable. But I also don't really listen to radio much anymore.

With the cost of diesel right now, I think you made a good choice.

Bottom line, buy what makes you happy! I needed something with some balls to pull my dump trailer.

New powerstrokes use 5w 40

Diesel is something Ive always wanted. It was the right decision for me. Absolute POWERHOUSE. These modern diesels need to be driven though. I have a half hour commute to work which helps keep things working properly. If I only had a 5 minute commute to work every day or did a lot of stop and go driving then the gas may be the better choice. Test drives are free!

@@OldSoulMillennial I agree! Life is short get what you want. I wanted a diesel and got my first one this weekend. 2022 Ram 2500 Cummins. LOVE IT. Thanks for the video!

Good read. On point.

I just posted my comment on return on investment, and that was a big determination for me to select a gas option. Mind you, that was over 15yrs ago. Back then it would take 10 or more yrs to see a return and that's only if the rates all stayed the same. As you point out, things have changed in recent times,

No mention of service costs between the two... diesel engines are way more expensive to do a major service than a gas one!!!.🤔🇺🇸

Any Issues with your 19' 6.7?

@@OldSoulMillennial none yet have about 30,000 miles so far. Towed around 11,000 lbs up through mountains of pa average about 11 mpg which was still better than the 6.2.

​@@suskyhilloutdoors513 Something must be wrong with yours mine gets 15 highway and 13 around town

Skip the 7.3 ps and find a 5.9 cummins or a newer 6.7 ps. I have owned one (1999) and while it was a good engine, I upgraded to a 06 5.9 cummins and the cummins would leave the 7.3 in the dust pulling the exact same load. The difference was incredible to me.

The 7.3 was an excellent truck and still would be…IF we were living in the early to mid 2000s still. They’re old and out dated now, and lack a lot of power compared to what we have now. I’d definitely skip over the 7.3 and go to a Cummins or a 6.7 PSD as well. If you’re looking for a truck that rides more comfortable like a car but still puts down some great power and torque, I highly recommend an LBZ Duramax.

Just looked at fords website. 7.3 is a 2,000 option now. So 8 grand more and you would have the diesel. Diesel has over double the torque of the 7.3. I’m happy with my purchase, you’re happy with yours. Life is good

@@OldSoulMillennial Yes the 7.3 fits my needs perfect 👍. Actually overkill since my truck with its 4.30 gears is rated at 20K pounds gooseneck tow. 4100 payload in its F-350 trim . I’ll never even get close to that for my needs . Hopefully your actually using that 1000 Ft Lbs of torque because it’s not cheap ? I plan on keeping this truck basically forever or until the wheels fall off. Trucks are getting way too expensive nowadays. That was another reason for my decision for the 7.3. My research proved to me it’s very overbuilt to last with many forged internals and is at least a 300K motor with decent care . I change my oil myself at 4K intervals religiously using a 100% Synthetic Oil . I didn’t want to be in a modern diesel out of the warranty period nowadays with $1000 an injector & cabs that have to be removed to work on the 6.7 long term down the road . I watched a youtuber overload his 7.3 F-250 with 3.55 gears tow 24K Lbs gooseneck tow a backhoe through the hills of I believe Utah with ease . That video sold me on the 7.3’s capabilities. It’s in a class of its own as far as gassers go for the big three.

The reliability issues after just a few years of ownership. My step son went through this when he bought a new 2018 2500 GMC, that thing lived in the shop, and he finally ran the warranty out. He was in the shop again and now facing a $2500 repair, or more, if you own an EPA diesel, you know the game. He told the service writer. "Why don't you just buy this thing from me"... He did, and paid him almost the original MSRP. He took the monies and bought a car that gets 30 mpg... He said he should have listened to me, as it was costing him too much to stroke his ego. His words, not mine. He is in masonry, foreman, but he has to drive some fairly long distances daily depending on where the job site is located. With the payments, fuel, maintenance and all of the breakdowns, it was a no brainer to get rid of that money pit. And this truck was all stock, no mods... Me, I'm a truck driver, own my own tractor, and know first hand the costs of these EPA trucks. If you do not have the diagnostic gear and tools, and depend upon shops to keep you rolling, you will regret the purchase in short order, especially when it starts breaking down, as few shops can actually fix these things properly the first time. If you need a diesel to tow, and I mean tow daily or weekly, get one. If you are simply stroking your ego, trust me, I have been there too, you are pissing your money away. Sure, it is a nice ego stroke, but in the end, it can really make a mess of your life if you do not have deep pockets. Just my .02

@@michaelwright1602 it’s crazy why the dealers are offering for trucks right now that are less than 5 years old. My dad traded in his 2018 Chevy 1500 that was giving him issues with 108k miles that he bought new in early 2019 and they gave him like $31k for it and I don’t think he paid but maybe $37k for it new. Crazy it brought that much with over a 100k miles on it. It’s good your son got out of the truck. My dad was kinda the same way and walked away from his because the transmission was about to go but he traded it on a f150. He needs a truck for work. I do also but I drive older trucks because they are paid for and cheaper to fix. I just can’t justify paying what trucks are going for right now. Maybe if they ever come down in price I’ll get me a new f350 7.3 gas but I doubt it will come down anytime soon

I do plan to keep the truck after the warranty is over. I am meticulous with maintenance.(In my opinion, you see a lot of fleet trucks with problems because guys idle the hell out of the trucks and beat them to hell). I'm a very hands on person. If something breaks or fails, I will likely attempt the repair myself. My view is that you shouldn't live your life in fear. If a component fails, fix or replace it. Thats life. But I love the truck so far, with the exception of cold winter days. I am planning some aftermarket upgrades to fix that in the future.

Get a free quote from Geico. Rates are extremely variable. I believe my rate increase because 1)I was going from a used truck to, a brand new vehicle and 2) The F250 is roughly 1400 pounds heavier than my previous half ton. Heavier vehicles can do more damage.

Yes and no. I tow my dump trailer around several times a year. Prior to this rig, I had a 2015 chevy 1500 5.3 and it struggled to tow around 3 yards of much. Even though It was rated to tow more than that amount, it just didn't give me any confidence. This beast handles anything I can legally carry in my dump trailer. I would rather have the extra power and not need it rather than wanting the extra power when I don't have it.

I've been thinking about getting one of those Japanese mini trucks to zip around town in.

Thanks for the compliment. I am curious myself what kind of issues I may face down the road. IMO the emissions systems are a lot better and refined from when they came out in 08. Rest assured, I will absolutely make videos if problems arise.

I get that. Unlike a lot of people, I'm not afraid to turn a wrench and attempt a repair myself.

Yes, I still have the truck. I have not made a long term review. What points would you like me to cover?

@@OldSoulMillennial Have you had any issues with the truck? I’m wanting an f250 but can’t decide on the 7.3 gas or diesel.

The price gap between diesel and gas right now is insane. 6.7 is a rocket ship. My advise, buy what makes you happy!

@@OldSoulMillennial the only reason I bought gas was I have a company gas card so I don’t pay for fuel but I do pay for maintenance and for my budget I could get a newer truck with less miles if I went gas. But yeah the 6.7 is killer

You'r dodge, is it a 1500? 19 MPG is great for a gasser.

Obviously the game has changed since this video was published. Check back in after the November election.

You won't have to replace them often with proper maintenance, 06 GMC 6.6 Duramax here, 315654 miles and still hauling strong, haven't done nothing to it but just on time service. Lack of proper maintenance is the key to failures with them diesels.

And boy does it get expensive. If you are not using these diesels for business or real towing on a regular basis, these new EPA diesels are simply not worth the ego stroke.

$5.07 is the cheapest I could find in the Detroit area yesterday... 75 gallons, $380. At least my truck makes money, and I only fuel once a week.

I used shell rotella 0w20 full synthetic in that chevy. Stuff cost 35 for 5 Q. Truck took 8 Q. So Oil cost aprox 56, and 5-10 bucks for a filter.

Impossible to quantify. Those numbers will vary based on driving habits, quality of maintenance, quality of lubricants, and Luck.

Sonny, I may have misspoke. Personally, It cost me $200 more "per year" in auto insurance. Insurance rates are HIGHLY variable. I would recommend that you get a quote or two online with your "exact vehicle" in mind, and the "coverage" you would like.

I prefer diesel, to each his own!

A tuned diesel,

I think it would be fair to say that most of that upfront cost of a diesel would be recovered on the back end. But more towards your comment, the title of this video is "cost of ownership breakdown". Not "Cost to purchase".

Hmm, heavy foot or a lot of hilly local roads? I consistently average 19-20 mpg

@@OldSoulMillennial hilly windy back roads

I always use and recommend full synthetic. Even with a synthetic blend you should make about 7,000 miles. Regardless, this video is not about when, or how to do an oil change. The "14,000 mile / 2 oil change" was completely hypothetical to give a ROUGH cost analysis.

Weird. I didn't know there was an interval specific to the hypothetical value of 14k miles that was 5k miles. Almost everyone is using full synthetic oils which are proven to last in labs around 10k miles. Oil change interval is more specific to the utilization of a vehicle rather than a number of miles. By your thought process, a police cruiser that spends 9 hours of idle time per day and only sees 10k miles per year from patrol use should have an oil change interval different from a truck towing 20k loads 3 times a week cross country every 2 weeks. The number was a point of reference. It is obscure. Don't read into it.

Newer trucks can go a lot further. Most of the newer car use full synthetic oil and go anywhere from 6000-8000miles between oil change. If you’re towing then changing it earlier is required.

Thanks Cody

My 6.7 has a 5 Year 100K on the engine, 5 Year 60K on the powertrain. Not Sure What the 6.2 or 7.3 has.

No, no lining. Better dexterity, less insulation

The life expectancy before a major rebuild of a gas truck is around 200K. The Life Expectancy of a diesel before a major rebuild is around 500k+. When you start looking at high milage gas and diesel trucks, you will find that diesel trucks retain their value much better because the engine is generally expected to last much longer.

@@OldSoulMillennial manage a fleet service for a while and you will know the true price of diesel. Let me know if your emissions equipment lasts more than 180,000 miles. Your 500,000 mile is a pipe dream especially with a power stroke. Look at fords track record. The 7.3 is what built there reputation and its long gone. I could replace an entire engine in a gas truck for less than replacing just def system in a diesel. If you are towing heavy over distance is the only way you will ever see any return. Also let me know how many times you have to rebuild the front end to get to your 500k. The heavy engine and trans reeks havoc on them. Why do your think Ram and Ford both have death wobble issues.

@@bw4851 or lets just talk about parts in general. I had an older cummins and the injectors were $2500. I could rebuild a whole gasser engine for that. (Speaking of older engines)

@@bw4851 true that brother. I love diesels but I can for sure reach 300k on my 6.2 and replace the power train for another 6k or less. I have 340k on my notorious 5.4. 3v only did timing Chain at 300k. The 6.2 and 6.0 Chevy gassers are very very reliable.

@@bw4851 I've had a little more time to think about your comment. You do make valid points. However, an important thing for me to note is that you manage a fleet, and I own and care about my truck. When I drove tractor trailers, I didn't give a rats ass about extended idling or technical issues. Not my truck, why should I care if the pdf gets clogged with soot from extended idling. My point is, if you don't own the truck or have a financial interest in the truck, generally people don't give a rats ass about it. I consciously minimize idling and I get my truck good and hot almost every trip I take. So I do expect my emissions to last much longer than the emissions of "fleet vehicles". My stepfathers PS 7.3 econoline lasted over 500k. My Fathers PS 6.0 (A known bad engined) Lasted 400,000 miles before he sold it. Yes those trucks needed standard parts such as a starters, and injectors at around 250k, but they didn't need rebuilds. That is (imo) due to the fact that those trucks where driven properly (not abused) and meticulously taken care of. They where not some fleet vehicles. I take care of my PS 6.7

Well, it depends on the repair. Tires are the going to cost the same on a similar 3/4 ton, suspension components will cost the same, transmission will cost the same. Fuel system and injector repairs, more expensive, Emissions systems, more expensive. If you run a modern diesel, the key is to get that bad boy up to operating temperature on daily drives, and stay ahead of preventative maintenance. Im not worried about repairs. I'll fix most things myself.

The 10k Upfront cost is the first number I brought up in the video. This video is more focused on the annual operating costs. Just for reference, the 6.2 gas engine is considered standard. The 7.3 is a 2K upgrade option. The 6.7 is a 10.5K Upgrade option.

The upfront cost only matters for initial calculations, you get 80-100% of that back on resell. (I have a 7.3 gas inbound)

​@J C Then it will always part of cost of ownership. That is if you always plan on owning a diesels.

Not in the diesel oil. Diesel oil is in 4 a qt (1 gallon) jug. Or you can buy the 2.5 Gallon jugs.

If you are the type of wealthy putz who takes his truck to the stealership and is willing pay $811 for an oil change and fuel filter change; this video isn't for you. Not that it's even worth my time responding to you, but I'll entertain this nonsense one round. I use Rotella T6 5W-40 Full synthetic. X3 -1 gallon Jugs on amazon: $66.93 before tax. K & N -‎HP-4005 Oil filter: $17.21 on amazon before Tax. Oil change total, currently about $90 USD. Hmm under 100 Bucks. Not sure if my math adds up, maybe you could double check as your intelligence seems far superior to mine. As for fuel filters, I change mine every second oil change. 7K Miles between oil changes. So, I change my fuel filters every 14k Miles. I use OEM Part: AC Delco FD4625AA. Cost currently 74.50 on amazon before tax. Yes this is an added expense, but if you can afford even the basic version of this truck, ~75 bucks isn't going to bankrupt you. Finally, I've made detailed instructional videos of how to change the engine oil and fuel filters on these trucks. I've created these videos to help average blue collar people like myself. Btw, do you smell something burning?