What exactly am I supposed to see?

Faz Ah Akechi’s glove promises a rematch as well as a friend-ship to follow it

this one hurt for me.

Where's Akechi??

Oh never mind

I honestly love this lmao

I wonder what joker's parents look like

@@finlaytm7281 me too. It would be nice to have something canon to go off of, y'know?

Honestly I would've preferred that be an epilogue

Haru route? Nice

Don't forget all the 4real

You really made it sound like he died LOL

This really is the most underrated comment I’ve ever seen

Yeah I still cant believe he literay almodt got run over just to get a cab to save Makoto

That’s why I saved my goodbye to Ryuji for last. It just felt appropriate.

Not that we saw. We weren't privy to every minute of Joker's life. Of course, the real reason we the player don't hear from his parents is because they are supposed to be surrogates for your own parents, just as Joker as a surrogate for you.

@@bjhale Yeah but We didn’t see it. And they probably didn’t.

@@callmepsycho3132 also, they never visited him.

I'd be surprised that his parents are probably aware of his adventures throughout the game and even more surprised that they are also Persona users back in their past just to answer where his badassery and dorkiness come from. Even makes more sense the reason they haven't contacted him is because they were in their own stuffs. Probably related to the metaverse. Heck having Ren/Akira on probation is because for him to not interfere their work and even staying him out of danger but his fate says otherwise. Although it will probably never happen due to one of the themes of this game is most adults are just assholes. But it be an interesting twist tho imo. Probably a suited plot theme for a next sequel of persona 5 and probably tied to the p6 if foreshadowed it right. But for now just exist in fanfiction and probably never happen.

@@bjhale you're not wrong... but not a single mention or visit or a call for a whole year throughout the holidays and breaks is a bit...

Underrated comment

@@milansimpson-miller1132 no this is an underrated comment.

@@rydyly1734 no! This is Patrick!

yeah but they happen and it sucks when it does

Persona 4

Logically, I understand that, but seeing everybody walking down their own paths and seeing the end credits still heightened the emotional impact...

That's what Scramble is for haha

Scramble is not even canon.

Yeah :"(

Dude I just finished the game and when I saw this you have no idea how much I thought and wished he'd do that. :,(

More like he walks up and shoots you in your face. Then go on a rant about how much better he is while laughing like a maniac.

666 likes

That would've been perfect! Then reaching out his glove less hand😭❤ Protagonist smiling. But, I'm just glad Atlus took it easy on everyone's hearts and showed him passing by in the background

That annoyed the hell out of me....

Agreed I went for her route and jeebus! That's all!?!?!

@Boredsleepydude Lazy too Definitely agree.

While I dislike that Kasumi didn't get a goodbye. I like her part in the ending more than what was done with the rest of the cast. She actually sees him off at the station. There is no reason to have that car chase diversion, just have an ending. And I don't think Akechi is alive, I'm aware of that split second. But I don't think that will stop them from having him in spinoffs.

I literally came here to check this because I was confused about Sumire not showing up on the map despite having maxed her out

Raises hand in class: sir i would like to have a mental breakdown

Yeah. Akira/Ren did so much for Sojiro and Futaba. For Sojiro, Akira/Ren helped Sojiro come to terms with his grief over Futaba's mom and dealt with her villainous brother. But he did much more for him when he helped Futaba. For Futaba, Akira/Ren rescued her from the labyrinth she trapped herself in once her mom died. He fixed her heart and repaired her mind. Later after you rescued her, you help her rescue her friend Kana-Chan.

Its more like opening more stories for the P5 sequels, like how FES and Golden open more battles for the Persona users after their trails.

Well we still wait for P5 Arena

@@sephaz1248 i think i prefer a different gaming style than arena as it makes the P3 and 4 gen post journey unique. The arena setting is due to the 2 new characters life situation

Vanessa Chow Jia Ying well ....p5 scramble ?

@@parsashirali8957 they also planning to make Arena Version Persona 5. Thats why they are mentioning that instead of Scramble, but nonetheless i like Scramble better than whatever Arena Version Atlus will make. They should focus developing SMT V instead of milking P5 forever

@Orga777 It is a direct sequel to the original P5 and not Royal though. That may be good or bad thing depending on who you are asking. Kinda sucks that they would waste what Royal added though. While the lack of Kasumi is a huge shame, it's the character growth of the original crew that I wish wasn't abandoned.

@Orga777 I'll stay optimistic about that regardless. But with Atlus themselves confirming saying that it's a sequel to the original and not Royal, it's a bit hard. But them again, they usually know how to make a good story, so it could end up being better.

Researcher Researching Research From my perspective, they could do a sequel for persona 5 royal, cause it sold a lot of copies, and story remains open for everything, maybe a persona 6 with all of them at the university who knows

@@ResearcherReasearchingResearch I am pretty sure Persona 5 scramble is a sequel to royal as they make reference to a palace that only occurs in Royals. Plus they were both developed side by side so why wouldn't the scramble team know about Royal's story It's similar to Persona 4 arena which came out before Golden but is technically a sequel to the Golden version as Persona 4 Arena Ultimax confirms this

@@soulwarfare42 Other than that reference, it does not acknowledge the true end of Royal. No mention or easter eggs of Akechi from the true end, Kasumi not being part of the cast. Scramble was already in development before Royal was even talked about, so it was normal that this is going to be the outcome. It is very similar to how Arena was planned/developed, which was done as a cannon sequel to the original base game. It was only after, with the sequel to the sequel/spin-off that the definitive edition was fully referenced/included. Besides, the writing can be easily fixed though; some DLC or another game after Scramble that explains their absence and it's all fixed.

ThePsychoGamer 13 idk if this is what you mean but in 34:55 akechi passes by. Its most likely jokers imagination buts its still kinda cool

A really cool detail is how when Ameche passes u can hear ping pong playing as if he’s remembering the times they spent together talking and playing it

Quinn sorry, but first it was pool, and second that’s footsteps

I like that it’s up to interpretation. At the end of the day, it would make more sense for him to be dead, but it also isn’t impossible for him to have survived. Them hiding his face and his other hand leaves his ultimate fate up in the air, to be decided by the viewer. If you want to believe he’s dead, then it’s just some guy in a similar coat with two gloves. If you want to believe he’s alive, then that hidden hand is currently lacking a glove.

@@LetterM I think he's probably still alive. They've established that a strong enough bond with someone can prevent certain things happening (Morgana survives the meta verse disappearing) and you only get the true ending where you see Akechi by maxing his confidant. For me, he survives for similar reasons.

Max Marriner In the Japanese version she says something more like “Well then” instead of “Take care”. Besides, to her it’s not a goodbye at all. He taught her to keep her head held high and take positive steps forward in life. If you romanced her then she says she wants to get married one day but to “Please be patient” until that’s possible after she fulfills her and Kasumi’s dream. She tells him in his room that he’s stuck with her now and they’ll be together forever. She has to travel a lot for competitions, and he’s having to head to his hometown for a bit... but they’ll see each other again. It’s not a sad goodbye because it’s not the end for them at all. It’s a “see you soon” sort of deal.

I personally always thought of kasumi as a sort of "im in pain and i will brag about it". i haven't seen kasumi's full social link etc. yet, but whenever she was in the game, she was always apologizing and stuff. saying that she'll repay joker for everything he's done for her, or just straight up acting like she's the worst. I really disliked her for most of the time, but eventually i've just kind of grown into it and i didn't care. Nevertheless, she will always be a memorable character from persona series for me.

sephronnine ^this I agree with this, Ethel said the they will be on the top together so it’s safe to assume that they will meet up again not that far off into the future. Same to the other Phantom Thieves, they too said that they will meet up again. All in all it’s then end of this chapter but not for the the phantom thieves as a whole. Also side note: I do hope that there will be some sort of continuation to Yoshizawa, which I sadly doubt it, because she is such a great character and I kind of want to see the narrative to have a neat way to go on even after Royal

I think her romance should have been erased with the whole other world.

Xue Xiong woah there buster

Same. I was mentally prepared, and honestly felt like the goodbyes were overdue considering the game had like 5 "final" battles before another twist. But that line really broke me.

Akira/Ren helped Yusuke not only get out of his artist's block, but also saved him from resorting to what his teacher Madarame did. Thanks to Akira/Ren, Yusuke will finally succeed as an artist. And more importantly, Akira/Ren rescued Yusuke from Madarame’s abuses and with his help, took down the villain and got him put away.

Ahem Do jima?!?

Honestly he's a better father than Dojima

@@jackflynn412 In your opinion that is right?Cuz if u mean in general than u piss me off

@@amastargaming5156 Sojiro - Didn't have to take in Futaba but he did. Saved her from her abusive uncle. He also takes in a criminal when nobody else would and eventually treats him like family. Dojima - Actively avoids Nanako out of fear and guilt. Is constantly growing more and more suspicious of his own nephew as the game goes on. They're both good people but Sojiro just comes across as more heroic to me. I think Sojiro and Dojima would get along well.

@@jackflynn412 im assuming in your own opinion

So if we start a new game plus does that technically mean, we do not keep the ultimate persona of the faith Arcana Edit: ( I just realized that Akechi had a spot for me to say goodbye at, and I did not do it *sigh*)

@@philipboes1100 I mean you can just play the game again

They should really patch in a goodbye or something

They need to. Especially with how bad she was portrayed in the ending. Felt robbed by not getting a scene with her

like at the ending of the final boss with the fire thing but only of you romanced kasumire you could like press x or goodbye and the dialogue would be “I love you” instead of the “Checkmate”

don't make my hopes high :(

Wesley Huang one can only hope man

Would love for this. But honestly, just a 15 min canon OVA showing the gang back together would be enough for me and get rid of the bitterness ingot from the true ending.

Persona 5 is gonna be five years old next year....

Honestly when the owner mentioned being worried about Akechi and combines with Joker thinking “but Akechi’s already…” make my heart ache.

That song really is amazing.

Joker: (wants to visit his friends all of a sudden) Wake up, get up, get out- *gets pulled back inside his house*

@@dibzybd9741 Morgana: Are you insane, get back inside!

Still waiting for chapter two to be release here in the west. P5S

I feel you ;-;

Same here.

Same..(damn I wish people irl were as nice as in games like this one)

Damn....you brought me to tears

I laughed at Mika's comment about Ann - 5 minutes later I muttered "Yeah, Ann's leaving, so keep tryin''"

Fiery Tiger Gaming No matter how many writers simp for the waspface, her fall will come...

Not only Kaoru, Kawanabe and Mika. Eiko was in the Ginza Line, Takaoka and Naoshi were next to the school saying that they'll care of Ryuji in your absence, the kids from Shinya's confidant next to the arcade and Kazukuma actually playing fair in the arcade in Shibuya, Takemura (Okumura's second man at hand) in Kichijoji, the grandma and the father and girl that are Takemi's patients, Yokoda and the other ex-believers of Chihaya, Councilman Matsuhita next to Yoshida. God, maxing everyone out really paid off at the end.

I can't believe they added all those things and still managed to fuck up sumire, wtf atlus

It makes no sense at all.

He did at the ending cutscene

@@lowiq8176 Eh, it really wasn't at all satisfying or even close to what everyone else got leading up to the last day. It felt very, "yeah, whatever."

That would be really sad... Not that her lame goodbye isn't sad tho... xD

They just pass eachother: Sumire:Hey. Akira:Hm. Sumire:Alright see ya. Joker:Hm.

In the romance route (if you wish to choose) she says "though it may not be for awhile". So it's goodbye to the Phantom Thieves but NOT to Sumire.

Seeing her (the last person) at the station before departing is still cool and emotional yes, too bad her "take care" remains lame and kinda ruins the touching moment.

THANKS YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING. This guy gets it. Couldnt have said it better myself

Akira/Ren rescued Sumire from her own delusions brought to life and then masked by Dr. Maruki. Thanks to Akira/Ren, Sumire can finally be comfortable as herself and living under her real name.

Lol, I was saying "But Akechi is de...Whaaaaaaaaaat?

@@fierytigergaming8112 34:59 you cant see his face, but that's totally Akechi.

@@faultyvideos2215 I know, I was referring to him appearing around christmas

I cried

Faulty Videos beating up akechi again dlc lmao. Jokes aside, i didnt see him at first, but then i got visibly scared, idk why

Yhea, and you can find Aiko in Ginza line. In my party I ve enter on Protein Lovers too

I agree. For some reason, people tend to forget that they were being followed by police. So there was no reason why they would intimately embrace. This ending works out for either the romance or no romance option with Sumire because in order to not draw added attention/suspicion to themselves, acting like mere acquaintances was necessary in that moment. Sumire obviously knew he was leaving and it was obvious that she was there to send Ren off, otherwise what other reason would she be there?

Akira/Ren rescued Sumire from her guilt and out of the lie Maruki fed her. Thanks to Akira/Ren, Sumire is no longer living a lie and is now much happier.

Really awesome track.

JESUS! That is a lot of additional goodbyes! I don't own Royal yet but was curious if doing this was even possible if the third semester was unlocked.

DarkLore I’m not sure but definitely try to finish the game with the additional third semester unlock and complete every confidants if possible.

He missed Lavenza’s too. She gives him the key for the Velvet Room as a memento. It’s really nice too.

Imagine Joker carring Yusuke's painting to the train

I mean to be fair they are very small things, except the painting

Orga777 his character has made them a ton of money at this point, I’m confident they’ll bring him back some way. 26:19 may have been teasing something?

P5 may have an actual arc with multiple games, so long as there are those willing to wrongfully abuse cognitive psience

That's just Light Yagami.

Who knows, he might appear in a spin-off game like Persona 4 Arena. It continued the story after the main story but before the epilogue for its respective game.

make shit hit the fan in the last palace of the game lmao

perhaps they tryed something new/unusual for a persona game

Look at p4 arena..its non canon..but seeing everyone after the p4g/p4 story ..feels like it is sequel of p4 and p3 cast...maybe they create a chance for new stuff?

@@starryskyhighway9628 the arena games are canon though.....

@@starryskyhighway9628 p4 arena IS canon .-.

Yusuke best boy/girl honestly

It’s too bad there isn’t a lavenza goodbye

@@Andrewtheiv there is tho

Ikr, just because Sumire and Kasumi are sisters - the 2 you meet are the same person, just Sumire trying to live life as Kasumi (Thanks to manipulation by Maruki making her unaware of this)

@@fierytigergaming8112 So you mean to tell me that the manipulation effect kicked in out of the blue even though she had come to terms with her identity as Sumire? I smell bullshit

You misunderstood: I was referring to how Sumire was initially under the impression that she was Kasumi, when I said about the manipulation effect. I was trying to say that even though the full "Faith" Arcana was titled as Sumire, it was originally named "Kasumi"

@@fierytigergaming8112 Point taken. And My apologies

I like it. As she said at 34:00 , she just wants to keep moving forward. She doesn’t need some over dramatic goodbye. It’s a bittersweet ending because while the protagonist will see her again, we won’t. I love it.

I_Am _Scorpio I guess it feels more like an ending, while this one opens more for scramble.

Hey but seeing Akechi could be still alive is amazing! Right???

@@ViperDivinity yeah it was kinda cool. Even if it seems like he still wants joker dead 😂.

Yeah, P5 ending had more closure I feel. Everyone together in the car, with Wake Up Get Up Get Out There playing on the radio, cant beat those feels.

@@Raydnt69 indeed

You too, hu? In akeshi hate i mean. When he joined my party, i was looking at his persona like: so, 2 elements, AND one almighty attack? He should be good. He failed the next 5 attacks in a row, now he is designated permanent bench warmer

Sketchy Akechi.

Yusuke: Sketchy Akechi, you say? My word, what splendid idea. I think I'll draw a-sketchi.

They'll probably do group vid calls though, since Ryuji will be in Rehab and Makoto and Haru in College, but I believe in a few years they'll meet up regularly in Haru's Cafe

Equestrian Magic Not really, In the end it shows his lower body but we don't know but ether way, He is probably still out there some shape or form

Is he tho

Well Whatever It Is, I Still Hope He Comes Back In A New Game

Yeah me too having him playable again was 90% of why I bought royal, and it didn't disappoint!

@@CanOfDarkFruit Same

yeah, it was the same for me. Well there are more P games than just one and they all have a great cast of characters and story writing, although a bit outdated mechanics and gameplay of course. And although I loved and played p5R I still like P3 FES more than 5 in terms of story progression and cast but this is highly subjective of course. If you haven't played them already and you aren't afraid of some "retro" action get a good emulator and play P3 FES or p4G since that game is already on Steam and can literally run on any potato PC. 👍

ZAMHARIR FEBRIAN Yeah I feel like I’m in the the minority. All I see are people saying this is a completely new experience...it really isn’t. I played through the original three times so I ended up skipping most of the dialogue in this one. The palaces were supposed to be completely changed. Only a few tweaks to show off the grappling hook. And the poster girl? You can cut her out of all of the scenes before the doc changed things and nothing would be different. She always felt like a third wheel rather than a new character. And don’t get me started on the random bs ending. What happened to friends sticking together? Everyone leaves and not even a proper goodbye in the animation...overall this could of easily been dlc for $30 for the original.

I still stick by the $60 Price bc of all the gameplay changes (Being able to itemize more than once a day, new personas, balancing the moves a bit more (Ex: Swift Strikes getting nerfed and making ailments a more useable tactic), and especially making the DLC for P5 Vanilla free for P5R as well as a bonus for playing P5 Vanilla). All these makes the $60 tag worth it. SPOILERS BELOW: However, I also agree that the story changes were underwhelming as all hell. While Kasumire has many aborable moments and I love her dates, her “I don’t agree with the phantom thieves” adds up to absolutely nothing, you only get her for one palace, you only get her third stage persona for one battle, she’s not even in the scenes where the phantom thieves send the calling card to shido or fight Yaldabaoth (neither is Maruki). Honestly she’s kind of a hypocrite when she says that people shouldn’t rely on the phantom thieves and work through their own problems when she literally wants to be someone else to solve her problems. The ending also sucks. While I do like the fact we see Joker leave everyone, the way they said goodbye just sucked. At least in P4G everyone had a heartfelt goodbye and MC leaves on a train. Where was that in this game? I’m not even in the mood to do a NG+ Playthrough bc the ending just isn’t worth it for me like it was in Vanilla. I’d also like to add that after Sae’s palace, I legit forgot Maruki existed and that Kasumire existed after Shido’s palace. The Moment I got to the bonus palace is when I was like “Oh right you’re in this game, silly me”. Honestly why couldn’t Kasumire just help out with Shido and Yaldabaoth. THEY OVERHYPED HER AS ALL HELL. She barely gets any interactions with the other phantom thieves too which saddens me.

Weeb Boi the ending is what did it for me as well. I loved replaying the original game because I enjoyed the ending. It really took my motivation away knowing how they all just leave. Especially since I romanced Ann and she literally moves across the world lol. It would be fine if the dialogue hinted at her thinking about leaving, but it just came out as random.

Courtlin 00027 yea I know what you mean. Again, I like how it shows Joker leaving bc it shows everyone is moving on, but it pisses me off bc of how few lines everyone had. It just made all that relationship building feel pointless. Another note is that you literally have to rush maxing out Sumire in a month. The progression just feels rushed. You barely play with her first stage persona (I don’t know how to spell the actual name) compared to the rest of team and even less time with the second and third stage persona. Why didn’t they give us both January and February for the third semester? It felt so short. Honestly this entire third semester just felt shoved into the game since the progression from Adam Kadmon to the whole “Get Joker our of prison” scene felt unnatural. And another sad realization I had is that for first time players who don’t know how to unlock the third semester, literally won’t be able to use Kasumi. The character that is at the center of this game and probably won’t be useable by most first time users who don’t figure out how to unlock the third semester. What is this game design? Smh. Edit: Sorry for the long comments I just really want to vent on how disappointed I am with the story changes.

Weeb Boi it’s fine I need to vent as well lol. I noticed when you unlock the 3rd version personas each character gets a skill card logo that goes into them. Not sure if this happens with the first 2 transformations but I was thinking in new game plus we could start out with the final versions with their new op moves they gain...I was wrong. I was also hoping that we would unlock the final semester outfits to put on for new game plus. I liked the trench coat joker got. Oh well maybe it will be future dlc that we have to buy.

Fuck it we Concentrate, Fuck it we Myriad Truths -Izanagi no Okami Picaro, Probably

Yeah... poor Miyu...

I hope they make him the teacher of the new Phantom Thieves in P6, whenever that is

As well as an...Interesting song if you complete the correct Mementos request in the Third Semester

Fiery Tiger Gaming really? Which one?

Oh nevermind you mean He‘s a Trickster Right?

Yep, the song which it's impossible to keep a straight face at

P7

@@Coco-by8qs P7???

Strikers is a sequel