Let’s not forget that Quentin that spun Scott

Skull Merchant having such a high kill rate because people instantly afk against her is hilarious.

*Stats and BHVR* It always reminds me how Object of Obsession wasn't changed for so long because the survival rate of survivors using it was so low, not taking into account that the problematic perk was getting straight tunneled out

One thing to note right now, Singularity's pickrate is probably currently inflated purely because of the tome. People are playing him not because they enjoy him, but they want the BP for completing his challenges.

Another thing about Pinhead being so low, BHVR nerfed Hoarder to where it no longer procced on the box being picked up, that and Franklin's no longer makes survivors drop killer specific items. This alone made a lot of Pinhead players drop him, as so many relied on the ease of constant chain hunts using those two perks

Abt Freddy: Scott you really, REALLY underestimate 1 - how bad new players are in chase 2 - how immersed they get when they dont have a terror radius to go off of. 3 - how scared new players are to touch gens once they know the killer can come thru at any time. Doubly so if they're hurt. Plus like even average players still make odd choices. I've seen players still teabag me off a gen to wake them up for the 3rd time. And a lot of Freddy players run endgame, and a lot of average players treat endgame as "gg ez" already.

Yeah, the main issue with Singularity (for me) is that it just feels like I'm playing a micro-managing simulator. So much effort put into trying to get a down just to have a single EMP destroy most of my effort.

I think both Wesker and Huntress have their stats 'deflated' by newer players. A new Wesker will waste a bunch of time dashing into corners, and a new Huntress will whiff most her shots. They both lose stats only due to their popularity (8.76% Wesk, 6.27% Hunt pick rates).

Pinhead's drop in kill rate might be due to the new action icons (or whatever they're called) that survivors have.

I love that it shows how % of games ended in 0k, 1k, 2k, 3k and 4k. Nurse has almost no 2k, meaning she either stomps, or gets stomped

I think Wesker's killrate went down a lot because of a combination of buffed vaults and the changes to his windowgrab making it so that instead of him consistently grabbing you as you vault, forcing you next to him, and having a much shorter distance post-grab, either he doesn't quite make it and deals no damage, or buttslaps you after you vault and so you make the vault distance + full run distance. It doesn't seem like a lot, but together, that could add a LOT of extra chase time which would reflect a lower kill rate.

I think Freddy kill rate is due to new survivors feeling like they need to wake up always, wasting a lot of gen time.

Freddy is probably that high because survivors just run the entire way across the map to use his clocks every single time they fall asleep, I see it every time I vs a Freddy in solo q.

As someone trying to learn Billy, I had to explain to a survivor team once that there are things more important than hooks and kills

Notice how Myers has very low 0 kill rate comparing to the other killers. I guess it's the tombstone addon 💀

Seeing Nemesis at the Bottom next to Singularity and Hillbilly is kinda sad. He deserves so much better, got overshadowed by Wesker and now Xenomorph is just a Straight up Upgrade from Nemesis, having access to Mobility and not needing to hit people 3 times to acually down them with his power. I get that Xenomorph has to build up its ability and can get knocked out of it, but it comes back in like 3 seconds when you enter a tunnel. Not to mention Nemesis needs to tier up first to acually become a threat.

Just another factor unless I missed it is that brand new players arent uploading to nightlight so the data will inherently skew upwards to match with interest in the game and some minimal amount of play time. (No one is adding their first match to night light or the first few hundred as well.)

Spirit’s placement makes sense, most people don’t really pay attention to sound. For two years I have played this game, most of my maches had eurobeat in the background

I think Spirit having a lower killrate than Nurse honestly makes sense. It seems simpler to follow and listen for the survivors in theory, but I think Spirit's power has a lot more drawbacks than Nurse's. The speed without addons feels rather underwhelming, and paired with a high recharge time your power's strength and accessibility are just so much lower than that of Nurse's. Additionally, it can be hard to pinpoint EXACTLY where survivors are just via sounds, whereas with Nurse simply one pretty-okay blink can put you in a position where you have an easy enough second blink to secure a hit. Nurse's power has a more brutal immediate downside for failure, however I think over all you still lose WAY less from a couple missed Nurse blinks than a wasted Spirit phase.

The billy gigachad part its just perfect, im one of them and i also play against them and its always this, the gigachads no slowdowns just gigaturns 2 kills-3 max but every chainsaw its a highlight

I played against my first singularity yesterday. He tried REALLY hard to kill anyone. By the last gen, he had one down, one hook, and just went and stood in the basement for the rest of the game. We weren’t bullying him or anything either. I felt so bad 🥲 Edit: that was the 2nd singularity, sorry. The first one I played against put down a single pod and destroyed it before resorting to be a M1 killer all game. We 4 man putted that one as well.

read "tierlists" as "terrorists" and it was a terrifying idea of a video

I think part of singularity's rate is also explained by his horrendous adept, which should still impact his overall performance a bit with him being this new, as well the tome challenges.

Freddy is an all-rounder killer, with some sort of teleport, anti-loop, stealth and slowdown (in terms of searching for and using clocks). I think that's why he has such a high kill rate--he's not particularly good at any one thing, but he's got a little bit of everything and that's sufficient to get a decent amount of kills against most teams.

I love youtubes ability to zoom really far into videos so i can just watch the kitty while hearing stuff about dbd

There's a few problems I have with nightlight's stats: Newer players aren't gonna be the ones submitting their scores to the site. You're generally only gonna see more experienced players go out of their way to submit their stats, and even those that know about it as well. Not to say it's a huge problem, but it definitely doesn't paint a whole picture of the game. That's why we see killers like legion have a less than average kill rate, because the people giving nightlight their end-game screens are the ones that know how to counter him on the survivor side. The inflation of winrates can also be a problem with community polled things. Killer mains might only submit the matches they do super well in. That's generally averaged out but it can create outliers when dealing with less played killers, such as hag. It's just a nitpick I have with a service like nightlight. I still submit all my stats to the site gladly, regardless of how the match plays out. The only thing that gets frustrating is when I get tunneled out super early on survivor, I have to either A) wait for the killer to slowly kill the other 3 players because they're all hiding and playing super safe or B) wait for the survivors to eventually just give up/win somehow. I think it'd be great of BHVR to give quarterly updates on stats, because I do like stats and I think that type of thing would also help BHVR since then the community could chime in more with why stats line up the way they do (e.g. Nurse)

I think one of the things keeping Wesker lower is that he's the Killer equivalent of Leon. Newer and inexperienced players see badass matrix man in trench coat with cool power and flock to him. Ironically I think he'd be much higher if he didn't look so cool and come from a big licence.

Lets not forget the Pickrates. Twins, Hag and Freddy are the least played killers.

Keep in mind for Singularity that Made For This is extremely popular right now, a perk that REALLY benefits off the short slow he suffers when he teleports

I imagine Freddy is as high as he is because new players probably waste time going to the alarm clocks the moment they fall asleep. A bit similar to Pig - he has built-in slowdown for newcomers. Also, newbies will likely panic if he is teleporting to their gen and run for the hills rather than find a nearby hiding spot.

Also as a console player, nightfall literature makes our screen pitch black. Like wayyyy darker than what’s seen on pc

I’m going to counter the point that people healing against Legion is the worst thing to do. I took this advice and don’t heal myself unless I need to take a hit to save, however I absolutely heal my solo q teammates and so should most people. It’s necessary because they have limited chase ability. It’s 20 seconds then they’re down. They need that hit buffer.

Freddy has the clocks and so many new players waste time going for the clocks he’s also always been a noob stomper

I'm still amazed that you can think that Skull Merchant is just ok or whatever after that match between cm9i and eternal. Do we live in two separate universes? Yeah she's definitely not broken it's just that her counterplay is a bit complicated that's all.

One extra thing about singularity, it is SO FREAKING LOUD, EVERYTHING. The steps, the noises, it doesn't shut up. I wanna hear the place and I can't. I'm farming every mission in this tome that I need to play singularity cuz I just can't play it.

Love your vids, keep up the good work

2:00 cat does cool trick

Totally agree. I'm surprised Pinhead isn't higher, I feel like that killer absolutely destroys solo queue. On the other hand, Spirit just got another round of add-on nerfs (Yakuyoke is now totally trash and no longer reduces power cooldown) so I feel her position is more than justified at her current power level.

It’s funny to me that hag and twins no longer get shit on all the time because skull merchant is so atrociously unfun

Since her rework, Saddako is absolutly miserable to play. She went from me wanting to main her to me not wanting to touch her ever again. How people still manage to die against her is beyond me, she has basically no power anymore against a half-competent team...

I really hope they change Singularity a bit, he is really good yeah if you are a robot yourself and can micro-manage at every opportunity you get but most people are going to sink hours a day solely practicing Singularity. It sucks to see a new killer with interesting design and gameplay get brushed under the carpet.

Weskers kill rate was super high during the eruption meta so most likely that’s the change.

I do think people got a better idea of how to handle wesker's dashes in chase, there's a lot of neat stuff you can do with those dashes and I think it took a bit for people to figure out the safest way to handle the options wesker has around pallets

Weskers kill rate probably went down cuz we just had the anniversary event and a bunch of sales so more casual players picked up paid dlcs

I see Scott’s making a reference to the infamous anime, Breaking Bad and it’s main character Sensei White

Where’s the stats to back up the killer stun sound tier list?

Tbh I wonder what old wraith with his double windstorm add ons would be like with Coup de grace. Shit would be nutty

I’m one of the players that doesn’t know how to counter most killers. I’ve never survived a plague or pig.

11:00 what timeframe of DBD are you referencing with the killrate? If it was pre gen-kick nerf that would make sense to me since he was pretty alright at getting between generators and holding them down?

Saying a lot of the high kill rates are because of new players is kinda disingenuous because NightLight is a user submitted stats site. New players aren’t posting the scoreboards of matches they play to a statistics website, especially if they don’t fully understand the game

I'm pretty sure Wesker's killrate went down after they made it so you can carry the spray can with an item

I feel like the pinhead kill rate also used to be inflated like old pig kill rates bc of the cheese strategies where killwrs just camp the side objective like standig on the lament config or jigsaw boxes

The reason Wesker has such a "low" kill rate from what you would expect is because EVERYONE plays him because he is one of the strongest killers while also being one of the easiest. If you have everyone playing him then those noobs not getting a single kill will pull the kill rate down pretty significantly, whereas the really good ones will increase it. But there are way more bad players than great players on this game.

Any killer with a very low pick rate will also have an artificially inflated kill rate because that usually means that regular players are avoiding them, so the people playing them are disproportionately those who have decided to main them, or players with a lot of hours who want something different or like to test things out, etc.

Anyone else just staring at Buddy the whole video?

Freddy's Kill rate is likely due to people performing hook seppuku to not face Freddy x3

what is that wesker image 10:03 it looks goofy and i dont know why.

When I was brand new to the game I found it impossible to play Spirit. Maybe it was just me but it was hard to get good with the sounds, I don't know why.

Another thing about dredge is that if youre playing on a tv its apparently impossible to see anything during nightfall so hes much better against console players

I really enjoyed this video. I agreed on most of the explanations of why the killers were in the list.

Im honestly not shocked at where Huntress is. I have put manny hours into her and she has just started to feel terrible to play over the last year. It’s harder to get any value out of fun builds, and the way the map reworks and redesigns have added so much clutter, you’re not able to snipe the way you could before. Her time to kill has increased and if you miss even a couple shots on really good survivors, you’re losing a gen. Just feels bad man.

I have the feeling that whenever I play Freddy the survivors I go against are turning into potatoes 80% of the time. Also whenever I pick a killer that I am good with there is a 50% chance that I get newer players. When I then play a killer I am terrible at I get 2k hour survivors that clap my ass. But to make the best out of it, I can only get better even if I lose.

Scott if I'm not mistaken, people that upload their match stats can either filter out people that disconnected or went afk. Meaning that it won't count for the killrate in the website, so Skull Merchant's killrate of 62.2% should be somewhat correct.

I think the reason that spirit is not near the top of kill rates is probably because you need to have good headphones and if you don't you will mess up a lot of your phases, and considering that she is a 110 killer it makes sense that new players would struggle to play spirit if they mess up phases. Learning counterplay to spirit is also easier because it is in chase so you can notice mistakes you make more unlike losing the game because you healed with an active pig trap, which some people would think they just died because they got 3-4 searches rather than because they healed.

I think pinhead dropped because hoarder and Franklin's no longer works on the box.

Pallet Freddy is terrible for facing most survivors, but it's an absolute noobstomper. New survivors will drop the same dream pallet multiple times and still be surprised it's a dream pallet.

Alternate Title: "Scott Jund absolutely baffled by DBD kill rates."

can someone explain what is kill rate? like what do these percentages show?

Singularity is to clunky and map dependent, I don't even bother playing lerry because of those reasons. They should tighten the crosshair so you have to be more precise and make tagging the survivor more forgiving. You are also forced to run the exhausted add on because of MFT

One very common reason for a lot of the kill rates that wasn't mentioned in the video or in the comments I've looked through is simply the pick rate. When I play Twins, there's a very good chance the survivors have next to no experience how to play against me. Even on high-ish MMR it is a common occurrence that some don't kick Victor once through the entire game. No wonder they're getting stomped then. To that adds that the only people who are ever playing those low pick rate killers are likely those who also main them, or at least have a good bit of experience. Otherwise you'll play them for one or two games, think they're too hard or weird or whatever and play something else. Which brings us to the high pick rate killers. Nearly everyone will try out Wesker at some point or play him on and off, which means people with less experience on the killer play those games, which drags the kill rate down. Of course there are some pretty significant deviations from that, otherwise kill rate and pick rate would just be a reverse of each other. But that's when you can really make a note of the balance. Nearly no one that plays Singularity isn't maining them, yet their kill rate is very low, really hinting that they are just a bad killer at the moment.

Onryo isn't currently high kill rate though, she already was rocking that stat before the rework. There are literal BHVR stats placing her that high up in kill rate several patches after her launch. And back then you could actually pretty succesfully ignore her power. Just check the All MMR's slide and look who is right behind her, Freddy and Dredge. Her Condemn was never the pub stomper until after the rework. The teleports are.

With spirit also you kinda need headphones but not everyone will have them for gaming or have low quality ones this probably doesn't help

I wonder if killswitched killers have skewed rates, though I don’t know how they do the data

remember, huntress spirit pinhead and probably some other killers are way harder to play on console, which is a sizeable portion of the playerbase

I think Huntress have a low killrate due to beginners using her often rely on playing against noobs that'll throw the pallets and get an easy hit on them. When the survivors are smart enough to not do it though it usually end up in a disaster for them.

People literally and figuratively sleep on Freddie. Especially with paint thinner. Fake pallets, love them.

What? Sorry, I wasn't listening Scott I was watching Buddy. Kidding aside, interesting video to draw parallels and/or to shed light on tierlists vs. data and why things are the way they are in both that veteran players will probably know pretty easily but for newer or more average players will provide good insight.

I noticed that Bubba had the second lowest amount of 0k games, which makes sense given their unrivalled ability to camp and one-for-one. Singularity is so low because they're really difficult to play, as you said. I really like Singualrity, but it's hard to pay attention for the full game.

Wraith is like certain perks, he’s strong, but people consider him weak cause he’s bland/old. Was thinking about this for Bloodhound recently, there’s just stronger/more interesting perks, doesn’t mean it’s not strong

I noticed Onryo's killrate spike as soon as the update went live, she's just a pub stomper now. I still haven't won a soloq game against a sadako since the update dropped it's been that bad lol. I'm okay with some of the rework ideas but overall I think she still needs tuning. And no I don't think her kill rate will significantly change.

Can you imagine how much more powerful scott will become with functioning sinuses? The loops will be legendary

People forget that the majority of dbd players are actually new players with less than 300 hours, and ultra casual players. Stats that are based on ALL players are heavily biased towards these new players. So of course the stats are going to say noobstompers are the best killers even though we know that nurse and blight etc are the best. There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

If only I had 5 dollars for every time Scott said "This is so surprising to me" in this video.

i can agree some killers have a killrate tahts high because of the mechanics if their power. i dont personally play pig alot but i recently prestiged her to 3 ( like i do all chars ) and used her exclusivly doing it, and the amount of players who just die to headtrap is unreal, some sit on gens till they die, others run around like madhatters trying to find how to remove it or fail 100 skill checks on box, same with pinhead, he can 4k so so so so easy if peeps dont know they need to solve box. as for freddy having high killrate, exact same reason, he may not have a strong power etc, but pallet freddy is surprisingly strong in soloQ as everyone and their claudette camp pallets to try and stun me but drean pallet value n all that. Ive had same survivor try and throw the same pallet twice in a single chase multiple times. Ive had people camp a pallet and not 2 secs before they literally watched me place it.

Been using Nightlight for a while, always surprising to see escape percentages. Huntress has a high pick rate and 60% of her games are losses or ties.

I clicked for Scott’s cat on the bottom. V entertaining

Hey Scott, something I thought was interesting and should actually be fixed is Plot Twist. Currently, the iri involves not being downed in order to get it, otherwise escaping gets you the gold medal. If your only down is by downing yourself with Plot Twist, I really don't think you should lose the iri.

Pinhead kill rate probably got lowered due to the item category rework I believe hoarder and franklins demise doesn’t work on the box so that probably contributed to that

if i play Freddy i might as well just wait at the exit gate and open it once everyone gets the gens done. only if the people i play against are actively eating glue i just get stomped.

Wesker's stats are likely that a LOT more people got the wesker dlc, and many of the better players who played wesker moved on to other killers after he was no longer the "New" killer. Resulting in the general killer playerbase getting him. There's also the many nerfs to killer which, with being the most popular killer, result in a lower kill rate overall since many average killers would lose to the current meta of buckle up for the people or made for this hope. This might also be tied to Wesker being weak at loops that are oddly shaped and cant be countered by his dash. So certain unsafe loops that are made safe with made for this make him struggle more as they can just go to the loops he isn't good on. Also, pinhead's issue is that he is still an M1 killer. M1 killers are currently struggling, even Oni is dealing with this to some degree atm. Huntress, Trickster and Nem all have issues with it as well. Nem due to the 3 hit thing. Huntress and Trickster because only 4.4 Singularity makes sense. EMPs are very strong and it can be horrendously annoying to have extended loops where people keep popping max distance emps on your chase, or getting ruined by bad map terrain. Also made for this and resil and the bugged vaults makes it awful to deal with current survs atm.

0:27 Caaaaat

A lot of casual players don't use headphones, which is basically required for spirit

as a big nightlight enjoyer, i can confirm i do not remember every match stat when i put my data in 😭

Pick rate plays a huge part. Unpopular killers are mostly it’s played by people who one trick that killer, so it skews higher since there are less bad players playing them. Likewise top tier killers get a ton of players who play because they heard they were good so more bad players play them. Also I think you underrate both how hard listening is for most players and the knowledge required for good hag plays; hag is not easy to play.

I used to play Freddy a lot, so at least in my experience newer players would panic when hitting dream snares and underestimate the range of his lunge because of how short he looks. That and they would panic when you teleport to their gen so faking a TP everytime worked as amazing slowdown. The moment you faced a team that new what they were doing you just lost.

41% 4k's by the Skull Merchant is absolutely incredible

If we keep going afk against SM, she will get nerfed and people will stop playing her. Keep up the good fight, brothers.

The reason some of the top killers have these rates is because of solo queue. Tier lists are made based on performance against strong SWFs, the truest strength test.

Trash killers like Freddy being high might be because they’re so unpopular on high ranks that no one except new players use them. And low rank killer gameplay is almost always consistent stomps anyways leading to inflated stats. Logic doesn’t make much sense though because myers isn’t really that high up.

My favorite thing about these stats is that Trickster is listed as being stronger than Nemesis and Hillbilly