Extreme Player Entitlement: A Central Cause for Toxicity in Dead by Daylight

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Scott Jund

Scott Jund

4 жыл бұрын

A case study of how looking at a situation in Dead by Daylight from only one perspective severely warps your view of people being scummy or toxic to you in-game.
It goes without saying that if you discover the identity of the streamer, posting it here or anywhere, or going to his stream and being rude will result in a permanent ban from my KZfaq and Twitch.
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@nusictone1
@nusictone1 4 жыл бұрын
I hate that he calls you scummy for not letting him use decisive strike. That's true entitlement.
@YagamiTrala
@YagamiTrala 4 жыл бұрын
The most scummy things is when survivors cleanse Devour Hope. Like, wtf, I want to mori you all, why do you destroy my perk? Kappa
@SenkoVT
@SenkoVT 4 жыл бұрын
if u look closely when he was going around the corner he could have jumped into a locker, completly de-escalating the situation. if only he had turned his camera that is. he wouldnt been slugged and could either use his ds or wait for him to leave
@KatyaAbc575
@KatyaAbc575 4 жыл бұрын
@@YagamiTrala Slugging for DS isn't even a counter. Even if a survivor doesn't get to use the stun, Decisive Strike stil did its job - which is preventing the killer from chaining hooks on the same survivor.
@missbelled6700
@missbelled6700 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the "counters" to DS that you can choose in-match are more or less: 1) slug them, camp them (and their team finishes game and they get adrenaline probably, no fun is had by anyone) 2) slug them, chase someone else (and they get picked up) 3) they jump in a locker, you don't pick them up (you have to leave or else camp a locker for ~30 seconds/hope they screw, so this "choice" removes pretty much all killer agency aside from deciding to eat the DS, which isn't a counter to DS) 4?) pick them up directly under a hook (under their hook with pepega strats that assume no BT, or through sheer luck and timing) All questions of balance and/or necessity aside (I get why it's there and I don't think it's oppressively strong as much as frustrating), it's just an unfun and non-interactive set of choices to be presented with .Getting tunneled is no fun either and DS is meant to punish it, but things like BT are better ways of going about it, in my opinion. No matter what, it throws a huge amount of potential pressure out the window, even if they get re-downed soon after.
@ashleyleskov3032
@ashleyleskov3032 4 жыл бұрын
I did run into a twitch streaming couple. The boyfriend (I'm assuming) was the gem of the two. As their Killer, I was aware he had Dead Hard, and kept waiting it out or getting super close. I tuned in on the recent broadcasts and he said "why won't she ever m1?" and similar comments, just because I wasn't falling for Dead Hard.
@highestqualitypigiron
@highestqualitypigiron 4 жыл бұрын
>get unhooked >sit next to hook while your teammate heals you >killer hooks another person in the mean time >still don't move >he comes back and kills you both >call him a tunneler and camper what a huge brain gamer
@kirby3554
@kirby3554 4 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day that's what we in the biz cal a pro gamer move.
@tiredoreki
@tiredoreki 4 жыл бұрын
big brain energy woah
@BlakWraith6
@BlakWraith6 4 жыл бұрын
LMAOOO! Welcome to dead by daylight 🤣 Gotta love this community 🤣
@jjoestar385
@jjoestar385 4 жыл бұрын
Its so stupid like, ok i hook one person, only 3 others on the map, they unhook so there are 2 of the 3 people by the hook, i think i shouldnt "tunnel" and go look for the 1 survivor who could also very well be where they are
@mattouttahe11
@mattouttahe11 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is BIG BRAIN TIME
@alexandervk3006
@alexandervk3006 4 жыл бұрын
this streamer: literally runs into the killer Killer: hits him and puts him on hook Streamer: Ok now he's just playing scummy
@ryan-levy
@ryan-levy 4 жыл бұрын
@Amin Elyaddasse I have never resonated with a comment more until now.
@braydenthomas6104
@braydenthomas6104 4 жыл бұрын
Hooks=hacks Obviously you're supposed to just leave them there in the grass so they can get picked up. I don't make the rules.
@ryan-levy
@ryan-levy 4 жыл бұрын
@@braydenthomas6104 But that's also illegal because then you're slugging, you have to not hit survivors at all and just let them do the generators.
@braydenthomas6104
@braydenthomas6104 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryan-levy Or you can drop them at the feet of their teammates and juat walk away.
@severinevans346
@severinevans346 3 жыл бұрын
What did he expect to happen in that situation?
@witec83
@witec83 4 жыл бұрын
It's easier to say "The killer is being scummy" than "I played like an idiot".
@dinna7680
@dinna7680 4 жыл бұрын
I've lost so many matches as killer where I'm instantly like "oh wow I played like an idiot, wp anyway lads" and there'll be one guy like dw you'll get better and then the lower ranks will be suggesting I kill myself etc.
@puncakebatman2199
@puncakebatman2199 4 жыл бұрын
I always blame myself first bc I suck at the game xD
@rightfulfuture4
@rightfulfuture4 4 жыл бұрын
@@dinna7680 Happened to me once, I think the guy was in purple while I was in yellow, cool guy. Now everyone is like "ha you're a shit killer who uses noed" well yeah, it's insanely good, besides most of the time I can't use it because you escape. Toxic boosted sfw garbage.
@Dhurl421
@Dhurl421 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Just started playing DBD a month ago, and even when going against "OP Killers" (nurse, spirit, etc), if I die I know where I fucked up. You don't get better by making excuses.
@Alkamar96
@Alkamar96 3 жыл бұрын
100% this. I just got introduced to this game a week or so ago, and I was completely baffled by the mentality of my teammates. To me it feels like there's this super hidden meta that only experienced players understand. but to me, seeing it fresh, it's like... "Why did the last survivor NOT deserve to escape?" or "Why is it toxic if the killer is getting all three of us on a hook? Isn't that the game?" I mean there's so many more. But it just seems to me that either there's that hidden meta, or my teammates are just super salty about not being better and they take it out on everyone else. They are so judgmental. it's crazy.
@TheOnlyMonto
@TheOnlyMonto 4 жыл бұрын
This is an everyday occurrence. But I enjoy flaming back... Maybe cuz I started in the early LoL days
@navasxd
@navasxd 4 жыл бұрын
Just scrolling down and saw you hi :)
@cetusniveus1331
@cetusniveus1331 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@AlwinoFloyd
@AlwinoFloyd 4 жыл бұрын
I also enjoy flaming back. Just a lil bit.
@cblocc5988
@cblocc5988 4 жыл бұрын
i have 50 pages of camping/tunneling comments on my steam :) hilarious a lot of games i 5 gen 4k but i am still somehow camping at the same time
@CodyRockLee13
@CodyRockLee13 4 жыл бұрын
It's sad that it is, but you're right. It has been since the beginning. Also, I didn't know you played LoL. Granted, apparently that streamer guy did/does, too; he called Oni an OP champion, lol
@Remoxe
@Remoxe 4 жыл бұрын
"I know Oni, he cant hit that" Well, if he hit it then obviously you dont know Oni that well.
@Zaane1291
@Zaane1291 4 жыл бұрын
I mean he was healing at hook against Oni, it was pretty clear he didn't know oni too well from the get go
@topsgaming4266
@topsgaming4266 4 жыл бұрын
Healing at a hook without the other person having we'll make it or at least a medkit/botany, it was pretty clear he didn't know how to play this game well from the get go
@MrDrugnut
@MrDrugnut 4 жыл бұрын
@@topsgaming4266 Ah woah there no no no, I hope you are not the dickhead who wants me to run with them to the corner of the map just to heal. Healing under hook is fine. If the killer is obviously around or coming back THEN you can move away.
@zak14
@zak14 4 жыл бұрын
Also that dude was running full pepega mode not even lookin back once. Pathetic
@fluffymonster396
@fluffymonster396 4 жыл бұрын
"I know Oni" says the rank 20 survivor main lmao
@acatwithinternet5635
@acatwithinternet5635 4 жыл бұрын
"all's this guy is doing is going back to hooks" Then why tf are you letting them heal you in front of the hook???????
@kingpin6736
@kingpin6736 4 жыл бұрын
Um no, obviously if the survivor’s tactics aren’t working the killer has to stop being good (This sarcasm just in case this is read wrong)
@rick1e_pick
@rick1e_pick 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the guys twitch so I can give them a piece of my mind?
@scuffedscruff9505
@scuffedscruff9505 4 жыл бұрын
@@rick1e_pick go through some comments, they reveal themselves in a comments reply, wont tell you who, ill let you find them
@ace8099
@ace8099 4 жыл бұрын
Where did this mentality come from that the job of your opponent is to make it easier for you?? When I boxed it would have been so stupid for me to say something like "I you're just spamming the jab over and over again and it's not fair" like the whole fucking point is to beat your opponent not make them have an easy fun time lol
@Predated2
@Predated2 4 жыл бұрын
@@ace8099 Well, considering how most killers work, they pretty much have to give some slack to keep the game fun. Doesnt mean it should be easy, but its a general sportsmanship rule to not make it unfun for someone to play. You could say that is "entitled survivor", but the same applies when there is a good survivor team(not neccesarily SWF, in fact, I generally am more scared of 4 complete random solo survivors in red ranks than a red rank swf). Imagine that every survivor team plays super optimally. You chase 1 person for 60 seconds and 3 gens pop. You hook that person to get a BBQ read and by the time you catch your second survivor, the final 2 gens have popped. Now, I've had games where 3 generators popped at once, and I could have gone for the 4th one because there wasnt any possibility of a 3 gen for the killer. Yet, I didnt, because I didnt want the game to be over for the killer too quickly, and tried to cut the killer some slack. But when survivors rush gens, its suddenly "nerf gens, nerf perks, nerf survivors". Strikingly similar to when some killers are able to rush survivors out of the match with little to no issue, which is why PH got nerfed and why Billy is recieving a nerf, because too many players have been abusing the mechanics to rush people out of games. The reason survivors are getting less nerfs than killers, even though the survivor potential is much worse than most killer potentials, is because in general, survivors cut the killers slack when they overpower the killer. While killers rarely give survivors any slack when they overpower the team. So yeah, give your opponent some slack while beating them. Doesnt mean you should give them a win at all, but having a 2 minute match isnt fun for any survivor.
@kaidenb.7299
@kaidenb.7299 3 жыл бұрын
“Oni can’t hit that” He says, as he is holding w, camera forward, no knowledge of the killers position
@Unknown-el1jy
@Unknown-el1jy 3 жыл бұрын
Fr I honestly can't stand seeing ppl who point their cam forward in a chase
@ironboy3245
@ironboy3245 3 жыл бұрын
@@Unknown-el1jy i need to do this, i cannot fucking loop to save my life. Looking for the nearest window to use my lithe
@RisenSlash
@RisenSlash 3 жыл бұрын
@@ironboy3245 you can practice with a friend or try looking backwards occasionally on certain loops maybe?
@killerallen87
@killerallen87 3 жыл бұрын
@@Unknown-el1jy I do that. =(
@spiritedfusion8800
@spiritedfusion8800 3 жыл бұрын
I usually go between but moving the camera quickly is hard on consile
@jl53588
@jl53588 4 жыл бұрын
Scott come on, didn't you learn that existing on the same map as a hooked Survivor is camping?
@MidnightPausch
@MidnightPausch 4 жыл бұрын
disconnecting and playing a new match would be camping to this guy lmao
@shazamproductions9416
@shazamproductions9416 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@allither6310
@allither6310 4 жыл бұрын
@@MidnightPausch he would probably say something on the lines of "Wow, this guy really has to kick us all from the match? Wow, so toxic, what a horrible person, kicking us out of the match even after making it a living hell by tunneling and camping, wow, toxic"
@gravesidepoet5405
@gravesidepoet5405 4 жыл бұрын
Being on the main menu,planning to be killer, is camping the hook!!!!
@xtexaschainsawx
@xtexaschainsawx 4 жыл бұрын
@@valentinaafk playing the game is camping. Get outplayed 5head
@ItchyPeenar
@ItchyPeenar 4 жыл бұрын
>claudette >purple flashlight >”its ____’s fault not mine!” >TTV what an absolute gamer
@tragedythetragedy5015
@tragedythetragedy5015 4 жыл бұрын
Its gamer hours
@highestqualitypigiron
@highestqualitypigiron 4 жыл бұрын
NO YOU WAITED FOR MY DECISIVE TO WEAR OFF YOU SCUMMY PLAYER
@zervexon
@zervexon 4 жыл бұрын
I think you misspelled "Blendette"
@crozel7262
@crozel7262 4 жыл бұрын
DBD streamer starter kit init
@VanillaVictini
@VanillaVictini 4 жыл бұрын
DS, too.
@Elbon-the-Lolinator
@Elbon-the-Lolinator 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, I could tell *from his perspective* there was no tunneling or camping.
@Jermbot15
@Jermbot15 4 жыл бұрын
Was it the full other person being knocked down and hooked that clued you into that?
@coolmanjack1995
@coolmanjack1995 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was that Oni downed the teammate that healed him first before going after him and then after easily hitting him down, left him on the ground to be recovered before finally being downed and hooked again
@Jermbot15
@Jermbot15 4 жыл бұрын
@@coolmanjack1995 There were a few subtle clues like that, yeah.
@Nikolus
@Nikolus 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's why this is a really bad and uninformative example of anything. This person is being held up as some sort of exemplar of survivor behavior when that's not really true, and there are killers who tunnel, camp, run ridiculous items and addons just to ruin someone's day. There's a lot of mean-spirited behavior in this game and a lot of it comes from killers, but weirdly in a video allegedly about empathy there's no mention of any of it.
@Jermbot15
@Jermbot15 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nikolus But it is really true. He really did complain about a killer tunneling him when it was perfectly clear he didn't. Frankly, if you care about addressing toxic killer behavior, you should be addressing these survivors. Their false allegations make it that much easier to dismiss any legitimate complaints about actually toxic killers. Instead you're here, saying this video somehow isn't an example of a survivor leveling a false accusation of toxic behavior, because there are other killers who actually are toxic.
@phaerius8265
@phaerius8265 4 жыл бұрын
*Killer waits out Decisive Strike rather than getting hit* "He's just playing scummy"
@kriimson5052
@kriimson5052 4 жыл бұрын
killer sees a whole swf team with flashlights and toolboxes and med kits brings a perk to deal with them "he's just playing scummy"
@mckinleyknight1775
@mckinleyknight1775 3 жыл бұрын
Killers gets hit with decisive strike* "Baby killer baby killer"
@SenkoVT
@SenkoVT 3 жыл бұрын
@@kriimson5052 in a way that truly is scummy, cuz the survivors cant see the killer, but he can see them and everything they use. just imagine survivors could see the Killer, not even the addons and if u lock urself on wraith or hag they bring insane flashlights or u play Plague and everybody switches from a medkit to a BNP toolbox :D that IS scummy, or as i like to call it " virgin behaviour " do u see any streamer like tofu, scott, otz, zubat etc freak out if ppl use flashlights on hag? they just think " gardamn seems like a rough match " and not putting on a mori or dodging the lobby / panic-click to overwhelming + franklins+lightborn just-in-case LUL
@Lors_101
@Lors_101 3 жыл бұрын
@@SenkoVT I don't see how these are relatable. The killer being able to see the survivor's items isn't equivalent at all to being able to see who the killers is. First off the killer cant tell the rarity of the item so they can't even know if using a perk slot would be good or if they just all have brown toolboxes with no addons, second off the killer can only try to counter the item by using a whole perk slot (while in your scenario with flashlights and Hag the survivors would be able to completely counter a killer with an item and perk slots instead of just a perk slot, not to mention survivors have 4x the perk slots so using 2-3 perks to counter a killer across 4 survivors is practically nothing), third off using a full perk slot to counter survivors isn't viable on a lot of B tier and below killers as they need all 4 perks to help with stalling or in chases and can't waste a perk slot on dealing with flashlights anyways. Most of the time putting on perks to counter items isn't even worth it, if they have flashlights just look around a bit before picking someone up, if they have good toolboxes expect them to get a gen extra fast that they probably shouldn't have been able to get, if they have med kits just don't commit super hard to chases early like you should be doing anyways. This is why streamers like Otz and such don't put on perks because Franklins is actually a terrible counter to items (unless you want to just waste 60 seconds camping an item or something), Overwhelming is garbage, and Lightborn is worthless as well since you can just check the area quickly, as Otz has shown usually versus strong items like keys you just have to sort of tunnel the key user and hope no one goes to pick up the key off his dead body while keeping gen pressure up. Survivors being able to see who the killer is would be absolutely worth using an item and 2-3 perk slots as it could easily just win you the game. Being able to see who killer is would be comparable to the killer being able to see half the survivor's perks or something. The only time I would ever use any item perk is maybe lightborn if the survivors are bringing 4 flashlights and are a SWF as it's likely they'll bring a map offering and be able to somehow blind you when shining their flashlight through walls because the hitboxes in this game suck but even then you're probably better off just baiting the pick up, hitting the flashlight survivor, and then picking up the downed one.
@SenkoVT
@SenkoVT 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lors_101 i dont know why u are writing an essay about it i have 3k hours xD. The killer cant switch anymore which is more fair now i guess. As killer u never bring anti item perks cuz u can counter them gameplay-wise, while survs are forced to bring certain perks. U cant rly counter camping +tunneling without perks and the killer doesnt need anything to do it. Tunneling a key user can backfire alot, im more on tofus side, play the match out normally who cares. Sure prio him if possible but dont theow the game or be a massive dick about an item, im sure u also want the survivors to play out the match even if u have a mori/iri head
@Veloxization
@Veloxization 4 жыл бұрын
"Oh, was he camping me?" Even the guy with him was confused...
@JackCabbit20
@JackCabbit20 3 жыл бұрын
I somehow found your comment :3 (its Jack) Yeah i feel you there and been through the same Especially when survivors argue amongst eachother
@AshleysOrbit
@AshleysOrbit 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought the same thing. I felt bad for the dude's friends. I don't know any of them at all but there's always that 'one' in the group whose loud and annoying. The "oh yeah X/Y is a B/D but you get used it.." thing (or maybe I am showing my age, we said it a lot in the 90s/early 00s ;) LOL)
@Yori6552
@Yori6552 3 жыл бұрын
@@AshleysOrbit lol Pretty sure that's not generation specific. There's def always one noisy angry person in a friend group since the dawn of time.
@DV-zv4ox
@DV-zv4ox 3 жыл бұрын
This guy's entire steam is just bruh after bruh moment. My man looped killer shack against huntress while one of his teammates was hooked in the basement, then after he gets injured he runs *DOWN THE FUCKING STAIRS LMAOOO*
@Sharnoy1
@Sharnoy1 4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Bring empathy.
@AramesiaToken
@AramesiaToken 4 жыл бұрын
And avoid Rancour
@The_Custos
@The_Custos 4 жыл бұрын
Git gud in empathy brah.
@eetein9704
@eetein9704 4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story; Scott is a tunneler and camper
@fluffymonster396
@fluffymonster396 4 жыл бұрын
Killers don't have the perk yet! D: Behavior, we have a need.
@fluffymonster396
@fluffymonster396 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dotdog101 actually, kindred is better for seeing if you need to save or if everyone else on the team is going for it
@Cheesusss
@Cheesusss 4 жыл бұрын
“Yea just let him kill me , I don’t EVEN CARE if I die” *continues to struggle and egg on his teammates to save him*
@conkerlive101
@conkerlive101 4 жыл бұрын
People like this are exactly why I always mute people in any game. Complete negative attitude, always blame others, genuinely brings down the entire group. Just no.
@us_is_we9263
@us_is_we9263 3 жыл бұрын
If it was a killer that ate his decisive, I would put money on the fact that he would bag infront of the killer before running off
@KumoGoesFast
@KumoGoesFast 4 жыл бұрын
6:08 "there's NO FKIN WAY you can make that turn" i mean...he did it...so...
@SenkoVT
@SenkoVT 3 жыл бұрын
yes and i think it was this random ass tree that pushed him to the perfect angle, i seriously doubt under other circumstances he would have made it
@kayn3x3
@kayn3x3 3 жыл бұрын
@@SenkoVT that made me realize this entitled dumbass doesn't even know about oni strafing lmaoooo
@deadhelix
@deadhelix 4 жыл бұрын
“He’s got an overpowered *Champion* “ LMAO! Clearly someones toxicity stems from another realm.
@toxicelamain2494
@toxicelamain2494 4 жыл бұрын
Shrek is OP but just a lil’ bit
@saucegodjj1169
@saucegodjj1169 4 жыл бұрын
@@toxicelamain2494 🗿lets not downplay oni and act like he isn't fucking nasty. He isn't busted but he's still really good
@ovichggat
@ovichggat 4 жыл бұрын
League players be like
@aleksanderz2320
@aleksanderz2320 4 жыл бұрын
Fucking league players, they keep imigrating from their broken game to another broken game xD
@callofkarrenboomerops3262
@callofkarrenboomerops3262 4 жыл бұрын
THis game is apprently worse than leauge...expect you pay for it? Fuck I was going to buy and play...guess not
@FantasticFahn
@FantasticFahn 4 жыл бұрын
"He's just playing scummy" *Is a blendette with a purple flashlight and decisive*
@garypotter7495
@garypotter7495 4 жыл бұрын
FantasticFahn I bet he’s the type to unhook somebody and leave them while hiding and say”HES TUNNELING”
@oryxgaming5881
@oryxgaming5881 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly tho😂😂
@kylehampton4017
@kylehampton4017 4 жыл бұрын
A certain skin or item isn't toxic it's just an item, flashlights aren't very good anyway
@garypotter7495
@garypotter7495 4 жыл бұрын
Kyle Hampton it’s a stereotype that’s somehow often accurate to the person playing
@Floydfan47
@Floydfan47 4 жыл бұрын
What's this "blendette" all about, what's it mean?
@trickyy5738
@trickyy5738 4 жыл бұрын
*literally heals in front of hook where oni has a 100% chance of hitting you with his power* “All this guy is doing is going back to hooks”
@greenbrickbox3392
@greenbrickbox3392 4 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah what a scummy play to go back to the last place you saw a survivor
@CaeruleanWren
@CaeruleanWren 3 жыл бұрын
*Stands exactly where the killer last saw him, multiple times, for long enough to heal, out in the open, with no healing perks* wtf is he trying to kill me or something
@Bob-wr4vg
@Bob-wr4vg 4 жыл бұрын
His dying teammate must have felt so frustrated when he started looping around the basement
@krtar4199
@krtar4199 4 жыл бұрын
Scott: *Downs 2 other people after hooking him* Him: He’s just tunneling off hook
@vicv93
@vicv93 4 жыл бұрын
lmaooo true
@simpforclaudie3414
@simpforclaudie3414 4 жыл бұрын
It's really pathetic how people will just harass others for their own incompetence. Seriously, does that streamer have nothing better to do?
@nickyt1863
@nickyt1863 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@techman9945
@techman9945 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@rod99ttett90
@rod99ttett90 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mikeyboi327
@mikeyboi327 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@umanasilos2311
@umanasilos2311 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@robertswitzer990
@robertswitzer990 4 жыл бұрын
A friend put it to me this way once: there are some guys who appreciate the sportsmanship and effort involved in tracking and hunting a buck, and there are other guys who just want to drop a buck that’s tied to a pole because they like to shoot things. This mope just wants all the reward without any of the effort.
@RavenDravenek
@RavenDravenek 4 жыл бұрын
“He didn’t let me use my clutch perk, he’s so bad at this game, gah”
@Darkwing_Dork
@Darkwing_Dork 4 жыл бұрын
To add to the discussion I think it's also just people being protective of their own ego. "I'm not bad, this person is just playing unfairly." It is easier to deflect your own bad plays onto the opposing side than it is to accept that you fucked up.
@DMDarren
@DMDarren 4 жыл бұрын
Darkwing Dork only time I say someone’s playing unfairly if it’s a insid leatherface Other then that I tend to give out compliments to both survs and killers who outplay me (When matchmaking doesn’t give a full team of red sweats, which, given I play in EU, happens way too fucking much)
@awesomealan12
@awesomealan12 4 жыл бұрын
Very true. And everyone talks shit during the middle of the match, since they're not thinking rationally during a game. The harrassment outside of the match/ game is completely unjustified
@mtsoccerman
@mtsoccerman 4 жыл бұрын
DM Darren that’s not only EU my friend. Happens to me all the time.
@Fofo-sr2xu
@Fofo-sr2xu 4 жыл бұрын
@@awesomealan12 The "talking shit mid match" point applies especially to me. I always say stuff like "that shouldn't have hit me!" or "what a cunt!" and then realize that that's incorrect moments later.
@brofist4675
@brofist4675 4 жыл бұрын
@@Fofo-sr2xu unfortunately I have the same mindset.
@magerage5979
@magerage5979 4 жыл бұрын
"... oh, was he camping me ?" Not even his teammates support him with his bs behaviour
@escarnertrolo5651
@escarnertrolo5651 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@stygian3824
@stygian3824 4 жыл бұрын
Healing at hook/in the open and getting mad when the killer takes advantage of that is prime entitlement. You don't get to recover for free that's not how this game works
@ChristopherWaddelow
@ChristopherWaddelow 3 жыл бұрын
I mean... I think killers should have to wait for the survivor to get off hook, heal, find a gen, and then get a quarter of it done before they can be hit again.
@MementoMori7777
@MementoMori7777 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherWaddelow Meta SWF be like
@leahbeah1804
@leahbeah1804 3 жыл бұрын
He called Oni a “champion” this guy plays Leage no wonder he’s toxic.
@Reniachii
@Reniachii 4 жыл бұрын
"This guy is playing scummy" says the guy with purple flashlight, two battery addons and a full blendette outfit. Wish I could see his perks
@Wolf-px9jx
@Wolf-px9jx 4 жыл бұрын
@@Th3BeardedBaron was that you?
@Wolf-px9jx
@Wolf-px9jx 4 жыл бұрын
@@Th3BeardedBaron didn't fully look into your vid, but seemed like a mature take and response, I appreciate it :)
@Michael-vh3jp
@Michael-vh3jp 4 жыл бұрын
I run kindred because on console you deal with a lot of campers and it let's me or my team know. I have messages of people calling me a tunneler and I simply laugh as when I see an unhook I go there as I know theres at least 2 survivors nearby. People get mad when you play smart and make fun of you when you dont.
@scuffedscruff9505
@scuffedscruff9505 4 жыл бұрын
@@Th3BeardedBaron since you've seen this video, do you still think he is a scummy player, or has this video helped define how you recognise real campers/tunnelers, versus bad teammates that cause a killer to stay near hook?
@scuffedscruff9505
@scuffedscruff9505 4 жыл бұрын
@@Th3BeardedBaron personally though, i wouldnt call back to back tunneling if during that time, the only person they've seen is that player. also what exploit are you referring to?
@WowSuchGaming
@WowSuchGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree brother. Been dealing with just toxicity each game and its gotten me to thoroughly stop enjoying things in game, outside the horrendous server issues and awful hitboxes. Props for being mature on your side of the spectrum.
@cyber_stealth
@cyber_stealth 4 жыл бұрын
Hi can you make more videos on this game?
@ColorfulTiger-eb7tu
@ColorfulTiger-eb7tu 4 жыл бұрын
I love watching people play this game both survivor and killer wise but hot damn i would never touch this garbage dumb of a game lmao so i understand if people decide to quit playing and persue just... Better games.
@averymcdonald3318
@averymcdonald3318 4 жыл бұрын
You get a pass this time wow, only because bills in this game.
@matthewmason1384
@matthewmason1384 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve just started face camping for solt
@sirisaacnewt171
@sirisaacnewt171 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly the best thing to do if you're THAT burnt out from the after-game chat, is to just instantly leave the lobby. There's really no use in sticking around, when half the time the survivors are gonna call each other shit, call the killer a camping scumbag, and yell and complain at each other until they feel like they've justified themselves. So I've just started leaving the lobby... Lmao.
@liamandrew2481
@liamandrew2481 4 жыл бұрын
As a killer main I made a real effort to understand where this guy might've been coming from Nothing, not an ounce of sympathy. Maybe a mutual disdain for Oni but thats it. It's so weird that he can say this without a hint of self awareness (SWF, DS etc.)
@SherrifOfNottingham
@SherrifOfNottingham 3 жыл бұрын
I can agree with one thing... Oni making that turn was bullshit, him getting a bounce off that spindly tree letting him turn that hard was total horse shit. The counterplay to Oni's charge is tight corners, that was a tight corner and yet it didn't work, the counterplay didn't work, or rather there is no counterplay. Thus Oni is not a fun killer to play against. Just like decisive strike is not a fun perk to go against.
@liamandrew2481
@liamandrew2481 3 жыл бұрын
@@SherrifOfNottingham I'll cede that the fov snaps Oni can make at the end of a charge are wayy too charitable. I more so have an issue with the hypocrisy and entitlement exhibited by the streamer considering they had every advantage available to a survivors arsenal. It demonstrates a lack of understanding for the opposing role and how much killers are expected to cede ground in the name of fairness (camping & tunneling). I don't like Oni either because the winning strategy is slugging but I appreciate the recognition of the fact rather than accusing the opposition of toxic behavior.
@Ghoffman91
@Ghoffman91 4 жыл бұрын
Tactically killers have every reason to kill a survivor or two as soon as possible. One less survivor means it will take longer for all the generators to be completed. Its a logical move that makes complete sense, yet survivors basically expect you to be a complete idiot and never think smart or act strategically. Basically want you to be a moronic NPC who cannot strategize and just chases whoever pulls aggro. They don't want you to play to win, just to play and give them a pleasurable experience. Your job to them is to coddle and give them a confidence boost. Nothing more. No other game have I ever seen where a community as a whole chastises a player for thinking smart and playing strategically. Just Dead by Daylight. I got a lot more fun out of Evolve as monster than I got as killer here. Could do whatever I wanted without the community slamming down a massive novel before me of "rules" a monster should never break. One of the thrills for me is thinking strategically and outsmarting the enemy. Beating someone cause I thought three steps ahead always gave me a rush.
@yeettm8014
@yeettm8014 4 жыл бұрын
How would you think three steps ahead?
@elminsteraumar9133
@elminsteraumar9133 4 жыл бұрын
for honor also has an imaginary honor code
@FGirao
@FGirao 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I dont know, I guess dbd fanbase consists in a drastic bigger casual audience compared to other games, even more than sports games and etc
@MaximumNaCl
@MaximumNaCl 4 жыл бұрын
@@elminsteraumar9133 true although it is kinda shitty to go up against a gank team but yeah they are allowed to play the game how they want to. even if it is a light spamming Orochi.
@zynstein8059
@zynstein8059 4 жыл бұрын
im p low rank rn but no matter what rank i am im going to play to win. fuck peoples 'rules' if i can do something to win im gonna.
@AndehX
@AndehX 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a case of "not understanding what the other side is dealing with" It's a case of "not giving a shit about the other side entirely" This is the internet after all.
@kermoots9261
@kermoots9261 4 жыл бұрын
But he knows Oni really well apparently
@PoorEdward
@PoorEdward 2 жыл бұрын
@@kermoots9261 bruv bruv oni can’t turn like that bruv
@alexanderthomsen4593
@alexanderthomsen4593 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you decided to take the mature route instead of trash talking as I find it morally repugnant to make fun of disabled people
@ZANF3R
@ZANF3R 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂 sorry I died 💀
@vev1672
@vev1672 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh you just murdered a man indirectly.
@itzchdedx4986
@itzchdedx4986 4 жыл бұрын
...oh shit. Damn.
@capyboi-776
@capyboi-776 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, i love you! Please. If you ever doubt that you are the best organism on Earth. Just throw that shit away.
@honristorckmin8499
@honristorckmin8499 4 жыл бұрын
"Ok now he's gonna pick me up because he knows my decisive has worn off" ...isn't that the smart thing to do?
@VFG204
@VFG204 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, it's just scummy apparently
@b.bedhead4531
@b.bedhead4531 3 жыл бұрын
You mean... tactics? What, next mo mind games? We just let you scooby doo us around a car for 3 minutes?
@ExhaustedWombat
@ExhaustedWombat 3 жыл бұрын
Smart plays are toxic
@SenkoVT
@SenkoVT 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExhaustedWombat technically picking up after 60-65 seconds IS toxic but it wasnt scotts intention and he didnt put a timer on or something. you guys saw the locker + flashlight + head on videos ? on certain Maps it was impossible to hook them cuz 1 will always safe the other, or a hookless corner when people run always back to it cuz the killer cant hook them ( i think otz win streak stream ) its the exact same thing, its a shitty thing to do [ or shall i say, stop complaining its the best tactic to use it works 4head ] just like the " nice anti tunneling perk you moron hahahaha mom said i cant hook u for 60 seconds so i just smack u and come back in a few seconds-type-of-people" - shitty as well, both in their own way
@cameron5367
@cameron5367 3 жыл бұрын
Decisive strike is a get out of jail free card, idk how waiting until it finishes is bad
@boucer2
@boucer2 4 жыл бұрын
I think one of the biggest problems is in terms of balance, without knowing anything about the game, I thought the killer would be more powerful so I started playing as survivor, because I like to play from the harder side but I kept on seeing that everybody but me just was able to constantly run away from killers and that's when I started playing in the killer's side and man, it's just frustrating, you have to depend on survivor's mistakes and there's only a handful of killers that actually give you an upper hand against survivors and those few killers are the ones that require more skills but also the ones the survivors always call OP and want to get nerfed to the ground
@boucer2
@boucer2 4 жыл бұрын
@Hermaphrodeity yeah, bit it's still a game with a very appealing premise which is why it's so disappointing that it has this issues
@blackboard212
@blackboard212 4 жыл бұрын
@Hermaphrodeity the balance is trash the killer is the harder role but if ur a solo survivor and u find a good killer my god it can be fun, but all 1v4 games are hard to balance the thing about this game is making the right reads feels sooooo good and when u dominate as killer u feel like a god. sadly one game against a 4man can ruin ur night because the level of toxicity that they can have sometimes.
@mycaleb8
@mycaleb8 4 жыл бұрын
@@boucer2 I prefer F13. I know it get's NO SUPPORT, but it's rarely frustrating for either side, and there are far less "unwritten rules." Just accept that the game is weighted in Jason's favor, and you'll have fun.
@84warhead
@84warhead 4 жыл бұрын
I would say the killers are both underpowered and overpowered. If you're playing as the killer and don't have anything good equipped, yeah, you're gonna be underpowered. But if you come into the match with something like an ultra rare mori equipped, the survivors won't know what hit them. The rpg elements in this game and the number of loadouts that this game has can make balancing difficult.
@rightfulfuture4
@rightfulfuture4 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, but like, is there a counter to legion other than like... distortion?
@frankvaldes9451
@frankvaldes9451 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that he is a blendette makes me satisfied that oni destroyed him.
@yurichtube1162
@yurichtube1162 4 жыл бұрын
The blendette trick never worked on me
@lazercrusher48
@lazercrusher48 4 жыл бұрын
Yurichtube, same, I just used Legion
@coolnobodycares
@coolnobodycares 4 жыл бұрын
I wish Oni would destroy me, maybe I should play Blendette more. 😕
@arianas0714
@arianas0714 4 жыл бұрын
@@coolnobodycares Weird flex but ok
@techman9945
@techman9945 4 жыл бұрын
Joker kinky
@CisWhiteMaleTrash
@CisWhiteMaleTrash 4 жыл бұрын
“I know oni and I know he can’t make that turn” dude ever once in his life play Oni? Never heard such whining in my life.
@codenamecreator8622
@codenamecreator8622 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he didn't read the latest patch about Oni that he can turn more?
@Daniel-kz7ui
@Daniel-kz7ui 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he plays with a controller...?
@christianprevost8455
@christianprevost8455 4 жыл бұрын
@@codenamecreator8622 when was the patch?
@christianprevost8455
@christianprevost8455 4 жыл бұрын
@PersonaX ya but billy can spam his one shot when he want oni cant
@Zombinator2005
@Zombinator2005 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, one can make a lot of turns that seem impossible but in reality he can, and Scott being a good oni player we all know he can make those turns that seem impossible but are really possible
@nofrendzerslad5107
@nofrendzerslad5107 4 жыл бұрын
"This killer is toxic, they camp and tunnel" Even if the killer does you have it coming for playing blendette with a purple flashlight
@Coolbeans554
@Coolbeans554 4 жыл бұрын
Being unable to play claudette with a flashlight is like saying "youre not allowed to play spirit with add ons"
@blackboard212
@blackboard212 4 жыл бұрын
@@Coolbeans554 hes not saying u cant fam hes saying if ur try harding with blendette and items that are powerful then dont shit talk someone else who is trying hard. i personally dont give a fck about blendette i play both sides to red ranks depending on mood, in the higher ranks the killer relys on surviors making mistakes the killer is not the power role.
@tramachi7027
@tramachi7027 4 жыл бұрын
@@Coolbeans554 Its not like its forbidden. Its just that its super toxic and you will, -probably- *most likely* get focused by Killers because, Blendette, with *purple* Flashlight. Wont give you any favors with Killers.
@Shadow77999
@Shadow77999 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@HJDSimon
@HJDSimon 4 жыл бұрын
You are the problem, you have a similar mindset to the guy in the video.
@LudlowSRK
@LudlowSRK 4 жыл бұрын
“They don’t understand.” Or rather, they “don’t care to understand”.
@cflatters2113
@cflatters2113 4 жыл бұрын
15:12 “....oh,was he camping me?” Bruh these people can’t be serious. If the killer is camping you I’m pretty sure you would know especially if it’s a huntress with a 40m humming radius
@watthappened1987
@watthappened1987 4 жыл бұрын
@Kalldr you ain't about to call me a coward bruh I was on my phone literally until 2nd phase hit then I started hearing the humming. So yeah I was actually questioning the "camp" cause at first I didn't hear anything nor was I paying attention. You hide behind a computer saying I'm a coward but irl we know you wouldn't do anything.
@donicsm7684
@donicsm7684 4 жыл бұрын
@@watthappened1987 Call him out then, bro.
@mrwhyte8612
@mrwhyte8612 4 жыл бұрын
@@watthappened1987 You beat me to it. There's always the possibility that you weren't paying attention or just simply forgot some of the details of the match. @Kalldr Assuming someone is a coward just because they didn't call out their friend (and calling him out isn't even necessary) is just an excuse to intentionally make them look bad, which is kinda sad imho.
@watthappened1987
@watthappened1987 4 жыл бұрын
@Kalldr its people like you man. keyboard warriors that don't know their place. it's annoying and unwanted.
@jessicawilliams3849
@jessicawilliams3849 4 жыл бұрын
Watt Happened Not saying you’re wrong or right, but do you realize you sound like the “keyboard warrior” you accused the other guy to be too?
@Wanderer_of_Sol
@Wanderer_of_Sol 4 жыл бұрын
I like how he was trying to save face there at the end, like "oh yeah, he was camping you. I left because he was being an asshole, otherwise I totally would have helped you. Definitely didn't just loop shack and DC on you."
@spideyplays3903
@spideyplays3903 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why I play both sides equally. Rank 1 on both, can’t stand actual camping killers not at the end but from the start camping for no reason. And then toxic clicky clicky survivors pointing tbagging it’s all annoying to go against. The most toxic people are usually either Killer MAINS or Survivor MAINS.
@puncakebatman2199
@puncakebatman2199 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a survivor main with little killer experience but I do understand what's "toxic" to each side.
@eyeball000
@eyeball000 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a survivor main, typically purple ranks, I cant use a flashlight to save my life sjkashaka I feel bad when a teammate is just being toxic
@masterzilla8727
@masterzilla8727 4 жыл бұрын
For some reason I have yet to have a killer give me hatch when I'm last but I do it nearly every game like wtf why can't there be people as nice as I am. Fuck dbd
@Jackscalfani2
@Jackscalfani2 4 жыл бұрын
@@masterzilla8727 bro, that's called entitlement. Never expect someone on the enemy team to give you something.
@xxprototypexx5056
@xxprototypexx5056 4 жыл бұрын
@@masterzilla8727 it's all based on the player, they do it because they are nice, not all the time though.
@VirulentNurse
@VirulentNurse 4 жыл бұрын
classic case of "I'm bad at the game, but I'm red rank so that must mean I'm good so if I lose then obviously the killer is playing sweaty/scummy or my team is trash so let me just complain"
@jimmyjamdrops7326
@jimmyjamdrops7326 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, rank doesn't = skill
@aidangoodwin7031
@aidangoodwin7031 4 жыл бұрын
Completely true. It's so easy to rank up as a survivor.
@Nerex7
@Nerex7 4 жыл бұрын
@@aidangoodwin7031 It's incredibly easy for both sides. I had a phase where I let peeps go on purpose and still ranked up to early red ranks in no time, it's just a matter of how much you play. I mean how many of your games result in an actual -1 pip as either side? Black pips are the reason no one really ranks down, they are basically free. And sooner or later, you will get a +1 here and there. But then again, asymmetric games make it tough af to balance them out, let alone make a decent ranking system for them.
@aidangoodwin7031
@aidangoodwin7031 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nerex7 It is easy to pip for both sides, I agree. However, while messing around I usually will pip once as killer. As survivor I'll usually double pip regardless of what I do. It's so easy to get to rank one as a survivor. I'm not even good at survivor and I still manage it every reset.
@trinkvo
@trinkvo 4 жыл бұрын
Following someone across multiple platforms and constantly calling them names is considered harassment(borderline slandering). Isn't that against Twitch ToS? People like him should be suspended for such things.
@OmenOfStorms
@OmenOfStorms 4 жыл бұрын
I agree but twitch never applies their own ToS properly and even when pressured by the community does not move to do the right thing. Hell their community guidelines change so often their own staff dont always know what the fuck is going on
@wolfrex2721
@wolfrex2721 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad its Twitch where everyone in the ToS department are horny shitheads. There are so many e-girls on twitch pushing their cleavage into the camera yet Twitch does nothing because like I said, they're horny shitheads. Meanwhile Monto gets banned for putting pillows down his shirt.
@Tilearian
@Tilearian 4 жыл бұрын
@@wolfrex2721 that's more because those sluts make them tons of money while Monto is still fairly small. It's basically the difference between a high roller at the casino and some nobody at the casino. They'll look the other way for the high roller in most cases, but whoa is me when even the slightest thing happens that pisses them off when it's a low roller.
@OpticHamster69
@OpticHamster69 4 жыл бұрын
@@wolfrex2721 Just goes to show why Mixer is a better platform than Twitch
@snkybrki
@snkybrki 4 жыл бұрын
@@OpticHamster69 Ehhh...morally, yes. Everything else, no.
@laovvi7140
@laovvi7140 4 жыл бұрын
The issue at hand is something far greater than what we see in DBD: it's a complete disconnect from what a competitive game/ experience is supposed to be and what players want. If you play a competitive game (PVP or not) and expect to never face adversity, the issue is with you! Players that act this way do not actually want a competitive experience they want to feel a sense of superiority and that is just not what a competitive experience should be.
@69xXSwagMasterXx69
@69xXSwagMasterXx69 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if this guy was facing a real life serial killer and just started going "this guy is playing scummy, op champion"
@classyrobot5648
@classyrobot5648 4 жыл бұрын
Why is he trying to heal off of hook against Oni when he heard you get your power, use it, and start up a Demon Dash? How can one person make all those shitty rank 20 day one baby nooblet plays and say that YOURE trash?!?! The mental gymnastics, man
@mckinleyknight1775
@mckinleyknight1775 4 жыл бұрын
exactly you literally got notified that he can one hit down you, whats the point in continuously healing until hes right up your ass, so dumb
@Josh-ez3mb
@Josh-ez3mb 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed worst community for mental gymnastics
@MrPhobble
@MrPhobble 4 жыл бұрын
Red rank as survivor is bafflingly easy to reach, after 2 week red ranks survivor are filled to the brim with player like these, It's so easy to pip up/black pip as survivor
@jubileualado6262
@jubileualado6262 4 жыл бұрын
You're*
@classyrobot5648
@classyrobot5648 4 жыл бұрын
@@jubileualado6262 I spelled it right. I didnt put the little ' though.
@ashtheswan705
@ashtheswan705 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Scott, that’s actually a shitton of maturity. Kudos to you dude, i definitely would not have chose to be the bigger man here.
@tragedythetragedy5015
@tragedythetragedy5015 4 жыл бұрын
@Young Skywalker Master Skywalker There are too many of them, what are we going to do?
@xTHEARBITER117
@xTHEARBITER117 4 жыл бұрын
When the other dude is a literal man child, the maturity bar is hella low
@Luna-Starfrost
@Luna-Starfrost 4 жыл бұрын
@@tragedythetragedy5015 He's not a master... That's insulting...
@JoeJoe-jz2qw
@JoeJoe-jz2qw 4 жыл бұрын
@@Luna-Starfrost Dude Anakin was a master. That's why they called him master anakin... Just because he wasn't a Jedi master doesn't mean he wasn't a master that taught those children the way of the force (Before mass slaughtering everyone in the counsel and the children as well) Anakin was on par if not better then obi wan. Master obi just had more experience then Skywalker ultimately leading Anakin to his own demise when he warned young Skywalker not to try attacking him that resulted in his legs being cut off and burnt alive by lava. Now he is a sith Lord... And the strongest one yet. You can't base someone off of what they were branded as. His skill and knowledge is what made him the master he was... He was ultimately manipulated by Darth sidious. He joined the dark side and became a sith Lord to try to save his wife. If he hadn't did that he would for sure had gotten the title master Jedi. But he betrayed the counsel and the republic and slaughtering those he cared about and loved and sacrificing everything trying to protect what he truly loved the most. His wife.
@Luna-Starfrost
@Luna-Starfrost 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoeJoe-jz2qw You have never seen a YTP, don't you?
@saulgoodman8893
@saulgoodman8893 4 жыл бұрын
Playing scummy as a killer. He’s supposed to kill you it’s in the name KILLer. 🤦‍♂️
@paintbomb2907
@paintbomb2907 4 жыл бұрын
There’s 2 small but important things I want to point out about the accusation at 6:11, 1. If he did no-clip through the car, wouldn’t he have done it through the tanker to save time? And 2. He didn’t have line of sight on the killer, how can you claim the killer can’t make the distance when you can’t see the killer and what he does That’s my 2 cents
@tntcheats
@tntcheats 4 жыл бұрын
"Oh yeah, he was camping you, like I couldn't even get down into the basement before he went ... for me"
@punishingbirb4180
@punishingbirb4180 4 жыл бұрын
I like his friend even asked "oh, did he camp?" Even his friend didn't even know but whoops guess he camped.
@redwolf9268
@redwolf9268 4 жыл бұрын
"Oh was he camping me?" Is peak comedy
@dtczyk8976
@dtczyk8976 4 жыл бұрын
That was pretty hilarious. It’s like the dude didn’t even know. Camping isn’t something you didn’t know happened. Lmao
@Lithaleon
@Lithaleon 4 жыл бұрын
A large amount of this has to do with the fact that most competitive multiplayer games not being asymmetric, they're used to the game being fair. The entire point of DBD is that it's not fair, the survivors are significantly weaker and need to work together in order to survive the killer. The killer is by him/herself and has to deal with that. The game wasn't balanced for the killer to kill all 4 survivors, or for all 4 survivors to escape, shit is supposed to go down, and it's supposed to be fun regardless of whether no survivors die or all the survivors die. But people trying to play an asymmetric game with the sole purpose of 'winning' every time, honestly have unrealistic expectations for the game. Asymmetric games will NEVER be balanced enough for proper competitive play, especially a game with as many random mechanics as DBD.
@bobbysnobby
@bobbysnobby 4 жыл бұрын
Survivors are substantially stronger there is a mountain of evidence of that fact.
@actionbash2
@actionbash2 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. The killer is either having an off day or is bad if he can't get two kills by the end of the match which is a win for him. Should you always be able to kill all four every time? No absolutely not. If a team of equal skilled players fought an equally skilled killer then neither side should have four survive or four kills.
@Lithaleon
@Lithaleon 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbysnobby The survivor can't confront the killer. A bunch of random survivors not coordinating will always lose to the killer. It's through teamwork that they're stronger. It's very clear you're a salty killer who's mad about the survivor balance and you saw the words 'survivors' and 'weaker' in the same sentence and HAD to disagree, regardless of context. Use your higher brain functions in the future.
@AImightywoIf737
@AImightywoIf737 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lithaleon How new are you to the game? I dont even main killer and the survivors are FAR superior to killer in every aspect. You dont need a well coordinated team, you just need one good looper. The killer has to capitalize on survivor mistakes, but if the survivors make minimal mistakes there is nothing the killer can do. Talk to anybody who has played the game for 300+ hours and they will tell you that. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@Lithaleon
@Lithaleon 3 жыл бұрын
@@AImightywoIf737 Okay, so I guess I have to go further in depth so people don't keep trying to correct my comment. If you tunnel a guy who's a good looper, you're an idiot. Don't waste the time, go after others. If they're not doing what they need to do, they still lose. So everyone on the survivor team needs to do what they need to do, and they usually win. That's called teamwork. If there's a weak link or more, you can usually bag a few kills at least. Just because the majority of the survivor player base knows what they need to do doesn't make it less true. The game is known, the meta is there. Of course survivors don't fuck up as often. Of course it's going to get worse over time. It doesn't make my statement untrue, it means people understood this, so they learned how to play the fucking game. It's really not that complex of a concept my guy
@Lukeishness
@Lukeishness 4 жыл бұрын
bruh I played against this guy lmao. He was sweating as huntress with 2 DC's and got mad cuz he wanted his hatchet hits. Entitled as a killer too i see.
@Borkomora
@Borkomora 3 жыл бұрын
who was the clown thooo
@ladykryo4592
@ladykryo4592 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta give it to ya Scott, hella respect for how you handled this. I love how he said Oni is an OP champion, not even killer. Oh boy. And rich coming from a TTV Claudia with purple flashlight. Ha. People like this are privileged to not have seen the true tunnel off hook, camping/face camping scum that exists at really really low ranks
@SunderMun
@SunderMun 4 жыл бұрын
It also exists at really high ranks. When it comes to low ranks, that's more to do with a lack of understanding of the game, middling ranks it's pretty rare, and then high rank it's almost constant. But it is caused by the toxic cycle of the game's community.
@christianbowen9684
@christianbowen9684 4 жыл бұрын
Amen
@jessicawilliams3849
@jessicawilliams3849 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Wilkinson I’m a rank 6 solo survivor on PS4, and I run Empathy, BT, DS, and Kindred just so I can have eyes on how the killer is playing. It’s been too many games where the killer gets one person and just facecamps them from the start. At least with Kindred, my teammates can also see the killer and they have the opportunity to make a smart decision, which is doing gens.
@Moneyman49442
@Moneyman49442 4 жыл бұрын
He picked me up now he knows my decisive is down he’s playing scummy... bruh gtfo why would he just take a damn DS 😒
@averymcdonald3318
@averymcdonald3318 4 жыл бұрын
Survivor rule #69: you must take the decisive like a man and never complain, its been nerfed, just don't tunnel and pressure gens but if you play billy or nurse to do that fuck you.
@primalaspid2843
@primalaspid2843 4 жыл бұрын
“He’s playing scummy, there is nothing to do about it”. Yikes, killers OP, genrushing doesnt exist.
@AeipoSZN
@AeipoSZN 4 жыл бұрын
Letting them using DS is Smart don't be a bitch and wait that's stupid only campers and tunnelers do that if they Do DC they don't have to worry about doing it again and I'm a survivor main but I'm a red killer aswell
@kylehampton4017
@kylehampton4017 4 жыл бұрын
@@primalaspid2843 genrushing doesnt exist, it's doing the objective
@primalaspid2843
@primalaspid2843 4 жыл бұрын
Kyle Hampton That might be so, but I, as killer main, would like to play a few long games. My gens get done in what feels like 5 minutes. But maybe I just suck.
@tylerm3422
@tylerm3422 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but if you bring a flashlight and just click it over and over again, for no reason you’re begging me to tunnel you and you have no right to get mad at me for tunneling. At that point you’re screaming for my attention don’t be mad when you get it.
@vaper8824
@vaper8824 4 жыл бұрын
6:10 if he “knew oni” then he knows you can flick with him and make that corner
@tragedythetragedy5015
@tragedythetragedy5015 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly i cant say how much i appreciate scott being in this community I enjoy most of his points of view and even if i dont i love how he does his arguments while still being a normal person and not being an asshole to the other person I love scott's memey style but i also love that he does serious videos. Thanks to you too spec, if you read this Sorry i cant spell your name properly but thank you too for helping this youtube channel be a reality. This comment might be silly sounding but i just wanted to say how i felt and say thank you which is something people really dont do enough.
@alexandra_5034
@alexandra_5034 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's Specularii! :D
@madeofmandrake1748
@madeofmandrake1748 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely this. I really want to join in on watching scotts' streams, but because of my schedule I can't catch most of it. These videos mean I can still get important clips and tricks in a convenient place, whenever I have the time. Thanks to you Scott, and to you as well Spec, for keeping this channel alive and well.
@thefuzziestmonkie1515
@thefuzziestmonkie1515 4 жыл бұрын
Nah man, this doesn't sound silly. Scott has an excellent spot in this community, sincerely. He does have a lot of good points and, as this video shows, is mature about his ways. He deserves more attention.
@CyberianFaux
@CyberianFaux 4 жыл бұрын
Funny, I remember Tru3 talking about this for years before then getting trash talked for saying it. With that said, I am so happy to see someone else speaking about this topic.
@Hemlock32
@Hemlock32 4 жыл бұрын
That's because Tru3, although usually correct about stuff, has an extremely dislikable personality, making people dismiss what he says. I personally can't stand him and the way he acts, but he's usually correct about these things
@CyberianFaux
@CyberianFaux 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hemlock32 That is fair enough. Everyone has their own tastes and can dislike whoever's content.
@derpyduck5088
@derpyduck5088 4 жыл бұрын
Beep Beep the name "Tru3Ta1ent" was said, and thus the "I hate tru3" bandwagon is now arriving, make sure to keep all of your possessions on you and have a fun ride. Seriously, Tru3 complains about the same stuff every other streamer complains about. Scott complained about DS in this video, fun goose complains about servers, Otz complains about bad maps, etc.
@Hemlock32
@Hemlock32 4 жыл бұрын
@@derpyduck5088 Yes, except, opinion alert, the others generally have more likable personalities.
@nathanvance9384
@nathanvance9384 4 жыл бұрын
@@derpyduck5088 But with Tru3 it's non-stop incessant whining all stream long. I actually like him, but he takes the cake when it comes to complaining. Scott and Otz complain, but it's way less frequent.
@Alienkarrot
@Alienkarrot 4 жыл бұрын
Survivor bags constantly and stuns just for fun. Meanwhile that same survivor "omg que is so long why does no one play killer?!"
@Zixology
@Zixology 4 жыл бұрын
"This guy's playing scummy" *plays blendette*
@4l3x4nd3r15
@4l3x4nd3r15 4 жыл бұрын
i must say that when he complain about Oni not able to make that turn my head just playback the oni guide on how to turn those corners, good video, hope the streamer sees this and can learn from his mistakes.
@imhuntingfish1
@imhuntingfish1 4 жыл бұрын
He says “I’ve played oni that’s not possible” xD
@DDBreloaded
@DDBreloaded 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt they're the kind of person who is going to learn from their mistakes.
@2bdecent864
@2bdecent864 4 жыл бұрын
@@DDBreloaded It will probably just make him worse once he finds out sadly...
@alwaysneutral2100
@alwaysneutral2100 4 жыл бұрын
the only mistake he made was making an ass of himself online. He should delete dead by daylight and take his L sitting down like the bitch he is. Clear up the queue for some actual good Survivors.
@snooPINGAS
@snooPINGAS 4 жыл бұрын
I respect the way you approached this a lot, Scott. Honestly, I would’ve loved to see you trash this guy as well but seeing the way you talked about this was honestly worth it. Major props dude
@alexyarbrough9028
@alexyarbrough9028 2 жыл бұрын
Survivor entitlement is the worst thing about this game. I’ve literally had conversations with people I know who told me that I as a killer need to purposefully ignore the survivor that got unhooked even if they are the only person I can find.
@eldritchsheep6801
@eldritchsheep6801 3 жыл бұрын
fun fact "waiting for my DS to run out" is not scummy, we are not obligated to let you escape
@jsj0520
@jsj0520 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao the dude saying “I know oni” bruh, he can literally dash into a wall and still keep his momentum. Now if that was drift King Billy is be a little surprised he got that, but that is completely normal for oni
@niggastolemyyoshi6366
@niggastolemyyoshi6366 4 жыл бұрын
Ik it made me laugh when he said "I know oni" like I'd hate to see what oni he's playing as that can't make that lol
@zaden9009
@zaden9009 4 жыл бұрын
I never understood the survivor’s concept of a killer “playing sweaty”, “playing scummy”, “playing toxic”, etc. Isn’t the point of the killer to not let the survivors escape?!
@strike123456789
@strike123456789 4 жыл бұрын
That works both ways tho, killers also complain about survivors being "toxic" as well. Both sides complain about certain perks or tactics.
@BigDad1887
@BigDad1887 4 жыл бұрын
@@strike123456789 the only thing I complain about from survivors is either bringing a map/key, teabagging, or pouring salt in my dms when they lose.
@lazercrusher48
@lazercrusher48 4 жыл бұрын
How would you feel if you were camped 24 7? Point is, it ain’t that fun for survivors
@savevsdeath
@savevsdeath 4 жыл бұрын
@@lazercrusher48 It isn't the other players' jobs to entertain you. You wanna have fun? Git gud. Goes for Killers, too.
@BigDad1887
@BigDad1887 4 жыл бұрын
@@savevsdeath facts
@matmcmann3159
@matmcmann3159 4 жыл бұрын
I come back once a week to view this video just because it is truly the best representation of the true issues of toxicity in our community from both sides. Its so depressing to see this issue constantly keeps going because so many toxic streamers/tubers enforce this negativity rather then approach it with an open mind. It sucks man, i can only hope more will see this, that it spreads and gives people much more open perspective to the fact its just a game. Just enjoy yourself, play to play and take the bad games as they come with an open mind. Be kind to eachother! Still one of my most favorite video's by you Scott.
@Ephringael
@Ephringael 3 жыл бұрын
So a year later, I realized one thing that guy said was right. At 9:45 That turn seems to have been just slightly too sharp for Oni. Scott seems to have his turn corrected slightly by the placement of the tree to the side of the car which prevents him from going too wide before doing a small flick for a final correction. Thats absolutely wild, and looks slick as hell.
@ToxicSoul03
@ToxicSoul03 4 жыл бұрын
The slow gameplay at first made me think the video was slowed down- so I sped it up and heard a super fast talking Scott.
@ScottJund
@ScottJund 4 жыл бұрын
that is just how i feel internally at all times
@spaghettiwizard2551
@spaghettiwizard2551 4 жыл бұрын
Killer: *Doesn't tunnel* Killer: *Gets punished by the "anti-tunneling" DS despite not tunneling*
@venerable1011
@venerable1011 4 жыл бұрын
Decisive strike.mp4
@purplealyx4508
@purplealyx4508 4 жыл бұрын
*brings 3 people into the basement because they ran into me injured* *downs last person who deliveranced off, gets hit by decisive and he gets hatch* To be fair I really tunneled him when he was the last person alive so I guess I deserved it
@StinkyPoopyMcFartFace
@StinkyPoopyMcFartFace 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah when that happens I just give them a real taste of tunneling and tunnel the absolute shit out of them.
@CandyBard
@CandyBard 2 жыл бұрын
I started playing Dead By Daylight in 2019 just after Ghostface was released. I have taken many a break from the game since then but I think one of the few things I've learned since I started playing, in reference to learning the game itself, is that I'm not going to win simply because I want to. I have to earn it. A lot of my friends dislike DBD and I can understand why, but one of the things I think that draws me back to it constantly is the feeling of satisfaction I get when I actually do manage to win despite all odds; When I escape after getting hooked twice and still go for the trade to save my teammate; when I get the 4K after a real rough start. Those moments, however fleeting, always make me feel better about my gameplay and make it feel like I've accomplished something-- not necessarily anything huge, like winning a competition, but the accomplishment can be good for my teammates, and that's enough for me, now. Sort of disappointing it took me 2 years and failing out of college to lose my entitlement LMAO
@plank2867
@plank2867 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great message. I often find myself irritated when I get immediately downed when I'm off the hook but now you've help me realise that doing so realistically is the best option for the killer if they want to win. I never go to the point of shit talking people, just a little desk punch at most but maybe that's a little much. I don't consider myself as an entitled survivor main because, while at times I lack that empathy for the killer, it is something I'm working on and I do practice what I preach. I don't down unhooked survivors immediately (even when I should lmao) and I try to stay as far away from the hook as possible. Kind of hard considering I'm a trapper main and I will be on one side of the map for most/all of the game. Thanks for opening my eyes.
@DeathScavenger420
@DeathScavenger420 4 жыл бұрын
I want to briefly touch up on the discussion of toxic behavior and entitlement. A common thing "toxic" people do is disassociate any cause for blame from their own actions; there's conveniently someone or something to blame for every situation (except yourself). "Bullshit! I know Oni! You cannot make that fucking turn" (6:13). Not a mistake on his part for not going to the jungle gym tile (potentially with a pallet), it was the game's fault or even possibly dedicated servers. "He's just playing scummy, not anything you can do about it" (6:56) 5 gens still up, 2nd hook; again, failing to react in time to get to the loop... But it's not him reacting very poorly, it's the killer's fault for "playing scummy". Then the whole survivor perspective is conveniently wrapped up with "it's not hard [to play the way he's playing]" (8:14)... says the survivor playing as Claudette with survive with friends.
@shadowterr0r273
@shadowterr0r273 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the Jane at the end of the game vod. Just "oh.. was he camping me?" Like bro your own friends dont agree with you
@bornslippy7232
@bornslippy7232 4 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about this is that they seemed relatively new. This guy is basically TEACHING him that this is what camping is.
@2bdecent864
@2bdecent864 4 жыл бұрын
@@bornslippy7232 And any one else that is watching the stream could pick that up as well then go spreading it even more soon it will be ( loading screen is done whoa i see the killer he is tunneling at the start of the match ) ^^
@Talguy21
@Talguy21 4 жыл бұрын
I saw that friend reply in a different comment thread that he was taking a phone call and not paying close attention to DbD while he was on the phone. So really his testimony shouldn't be counted either for or against allegations of camping. That's what all of the video evidence here is for. =)
@Wanderer_of_Sol
@Wanderer_of_Sol 4 жыл бұрын
@@bornslippy7232 What makes it worse is that this guy has tutorials on his channel. The tutorials aren't terrible, but they aren't great either and they have some straight up bad advice in them.
@mq8858
@mq8858 4 жыл бұрын
He was probably thinking “but I heard the humming stop, and it came back when all of you came over here,” because he can see all that they are doing with the yellow auras. But of course you can’t say that on your friends stream.
@Banjo3440
@Banjo3440 4 жыл бұрын
that background music.....I can hear the emerald herald's words already.
@dustinsterling3248
@dustinsterling3248 4 жыл бұрын
Bear seek seek lest
@therockstarknight666
@therockstarknight666 4 жыл бұрын
Bearer of the curse, seek souls. Larger, more powerful souls. Seek the King. That is the only way. Lest this land swallow you whole... as it has so many others.
@DMCBlaze1
@DMCBlaze1 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of you walking across the map and hooking someone completely separate and still being called a camper
@jays351
@jays351 4 жыл бұрын
"He's just playing scummy" That's a weird way of saying you're bad at the game buddy
@Tekkaras
@Tekkaras 4 жыл бұрын
The part of this that hit me like a brick is when he called Oni nd overpowered *"Champion."* No wonder this guy is toxic, he's a MOBA player.
@Healthy_Kawk
@Healthy_Kawk 4 жыл бұрын
not MOBA, LoL player, which is more specific and much worse
@DizzyFi
@DizzyFi 4 жыл бұрын
Herbjoern As a league player, I’d rather play league than DbD now. League is where you find the angry guys that you can completely ignore or mute or just not bother with. DbD I play my heart out and get told I’m garbage EVERY game. There’s so much more and it’s so much more consistent.
@wolfrex2721
@wolfrex2721 4 жыл бұрын
@@DizzyFi you can just disable the chat
@jasonlaviolette1096
@jasonlaviolette1096 4 жыл бұрын
Isnt it irony how you associate his toxic behavior with another games entire community. Not all league players are toxic.
@gdawg1647
@gdawg1647 4 жыл бұрын
jewboy There’s a difference between banter and being toxic. Maybe if you passed second grade you would know this.
@Drazeroth8
@Drazeroth8 4 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, I play to win. If that means if it's convenient to "tunnel" or "camp" a survivor in order to win then you can bet your ass I will do it. However, everyone knows there are alternative actions survivors can take to avoid being killed. If it's cool for a survivor to loop and drop pallets on killers...then a killer should be as evil and deadly as they want. just my opinion tho....I just hate trolls and people who taunt...I dnt think that's good sportsmanship and it needs to stop...however we shouldn't condemn styles of play just cause it pisses people off when it doesn't work in their favor.
@clickpause8732
@clickpause8732 4 жыл бұрын
Ehh, it's a fine line. You can easily play well and win without tunnelling a single person, and it can be to your detriment if the team plays well (taking hits, doing gens while you're occupied, etc.). However, aside from optimisation, it's also about remembering that there are other players. If you were a survivor, I doubt you'd find being tunnelled to death fun, so if you can take steps to mitigate that (which you can, because tunnelling on its own is _far_ from optimal), you'll hopefully improve your experience and theirs.
@Drazeroth8
@Drazeroth8 4 жыл бұрын
@@clickpause8732 With all do respect I think you just made my point. I said there are ways of countering tunneling....and i agree that most of the time it's not sufficient...but it still shouldn't be demonized...some (newer) players might find more success by playing dirty...weather it's as a killer or survivor. As long as people are purely doing it for the victory and not to troll. Personally I hate when there are 3 guys dead and the last survivor opens the gate and waits for me to show up just so they can crouch several times and run thru the exit jus as i try to hit em...now THAT kind of behavior is cancer imo.
@clickpause8732
@clickpause8732 4 жыл бұрын
@@Drazeroth8 Fair points, I think.
@scottsmith2630
@scottsmith2630 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly a killer can play as he likes. I came across several leather face hook camper. And the sad thing is they sometimes get two to three kills doing this. I think kindred is still a nice perk, I personally prefer if I'm getting face camped for my team to pop gens and get out. Now if they are meme face camping I don't mind it cause I find it hilarious, now I don't escape, give me those Were gonna live forever stacks, I enjoy more BP over escaping these days and heck I don't look for hatch unless I get lucky and it pops next to me, I just run to the killer so they can send me to the next game.
@sabotagethefool
@sabotagethefool 4 жыл бұрын
This guy actually enraged me with his lack of game sense and entitlement.
@HaYaNANIMEgurl5
@HaYaNANIMEgurl5 4 жыл бұрын
ePiCGamRTTV: "there's no way oni couldve made that turn!" me: *laughs in billy/oni main*
@fluffymonster396
@fluffymonster396 4 жыл бұрын
He had a pallet to run to and decided to run the dumb way. Like on him to be stupid, I guess.
@CodyRockLee13
@CodyRockLee13 4 жыл бұрын
@@fluffymonster396 without even attempting to watch the killer, too. That's survivor 101, man. Dude's a fraud.
@rainoffire621
@rainoffire621 4 жыл бұрын
@@CodyRockLee13 I wouldn't be surprised if he had a friend play on his account to get him all his items, perks, and ranking. Not trying to be mean to him but that's how it seems.
@rickydodson1539
@rickydodson1539 4 жыл бұрын
“Oni can’t make that turn”. You are aware that, in general, the corner of a car is around 90 degrees right? I’m pretty sure oni can hit that.
@jasonslade6259
@jasonslade6259 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Oni couldn't make that turn on the previous patch. Maybe he hasn't played Oni in a while.
@SgtBl4de
@SgtBl4de 4 жыл бұрын
Scott Jund, intentionally goes for the other survivor and gives everyone a fighting chance as killer, and honestly, as a DBD player as well, I am not as nice and you need to give this man credit for not being toxic to get kills.
@TurtleRoadkill
@TurtleRoadkill 4 жыл бұрын
I've gone against this player as Killer a couple times and have experienced the same reaction, including comments on my profile. Thank you for addressing this.
@prop1010
@prop1010 4 жыл бұрын
whats his stream name mate?
@ScottJund
@ScottJund 4 жыл бұрын
@@prop1010 stop
@prop1010
@prop1010 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScottJund Wot I'm genuinely curious, blurring it out just made me more curious. Like telling someone to not look down. Not for any shenanigans just curiosity
@wolfrex2721
@wolfrex2721 4 жыл бұрын
@@prop1010 you seem to need a reminder that you're not alone in this world. If anyone here tells you, then other people with actually harmful intentions will also find out. And you might be one of them.
@nvis7873
@nvis7873 4 жыл бұрын
WolfRex yes I do want to curse him out.
@nathanvance9384
@nathanvance9384 4 жыл бұрын
I lost track of how many times I've seen people post screenshots in various discords/chats of them "Getting facecamped by some toxic killer", and you can clearly see in the screenshot "Find The Exit" (Gens are done). It's obnoxious.
@DaFieFie
@DaFieFie 4 жыл бұрын
Facecamping when the exits are powered is double stupid because you will get more points, ranking, or just plain old fun by going to said gates to chase more people. Securing a kill does nothing for you in the late game, and there's no reason to do it other than spite or just a misunderstanding of how the scoring and ranking system works.
@milkybean1500
@milkybean1500 4 жыл бұрын
Phi Well there is a problem there. People normally dont play for the emblems, cause people frankly dont Care about Them cause they are stupid. So alot of people count how Well they did in the game by the kills they have gotten, which is a normal and easy meassurement of how the match went since its the litteral objective presented to the killer: kill the survivors
@leiderhosen7110
@leiderhosen7110 4 жыл бұрын
@@DaFieFie Yeah dude I have so much fun chasing people I have a 0% chance of catching to the Exit so I can watch them teabag and run away before I can ever hit them. It's the most fun you can have, definitely more than securing at least one pity kill.
@nathanvance9384
@nathanvance9384 4 жыл бұрын
@@DaFieFie I agree that in most cases it's a bad strategy, but I'm not going to get angry or cast moral judgement about someone for using a bad strategy. There are plenty of other reasons as well, mainly exhaustion from a tough match and lack of confidence in their ability to get another kill.
@mtsoccerman
@mtsoccerman 4 жыл бұрын
Leider Hosen fantastic use of sarcasm. Why secure a kill when you can chase a blendette to a 99ed exit gate so she can t bag and click her flashlight at you. So fun!!!
@schprinklerrr1956
@schprinklerrr1956 4 жыл бұрын
These survivors are the kids that cried when they got out in dodgeball.
@PsychCow
@PsychCow 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a handful of videos on this topic, feels really good to hear you're opinion on this align with my own. I usually get the most hate while playing Wraith, clearly a biproduct of him being hard to see and having no* terror radius and people assuming the worst. These days I just ask people to define their terms for me with endless questions until they realize how dumb they sound. "So is it tunneling, if I down the unhooker, and instead of throwing my ability in the trash, I down the person they unhooked?" ... "Oh it is, and you would have thrown your ability in the trash and let that person go if the rolls were reversed?"
@caspermarzec3514
@caspermarzec3514 4 жыл бұрын
"was I camped?" gotta love it when they don't even know :D
@projekt_enza131
@projekt_enza131 4 жыл бұрын
Its why I’m considering calling it a day with DBD, I’ve had to turn messages and friend requests off just so I can play without being harassed. First game I’ve ever had to do even close to that on. It’s getting anit out of hand
@beelzeboss9631
@beelzeboss9631 4 жыл бұрын
Do it if your life is in danger, until then, enjoy the salt my dude, it's beautiful
@EddyBravo
@EddyBravo 4 жыл бұрын
I mean I made my profile public just to mine the salt. I have pages upon pages of salt in my comments, some of the best laughs I had playing Nurse (until they fucked it that is).
@bootygang666f6
@bootygang666f6 3 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of people dont take mobile seriously but you cant message at all on mobile
@zacrylist5748
@zacrylist5748 4 жыл бұрын
this was just in my recommended i dont really play this game but, if he finds you trying to heal you ally why wouldn't he come after you?
@karite2
@karite2 2 жыл бұрын
It always feels like you need to play both sides to get the full picture. I'll have games where I'm just giving a gg, getting one guy who is extremely irate and then another survivor will push back against them cause they're mad for dumb reasons.
@STEIN2269
@STEIN2269 4 жыл бұрын
Notice how the guy he was “camping” said “oh, he was camping me?”
@BetaNurse68
@BetaNurse68 4 жыл бұрын
Finally always wanted to see bigger streamers make vids about this to kinda give some sort of idea to both sides how it can be. Props to you mr jund love this content! Definitely took the mature route
@ShadingNight
@ShadingNight 4 жыл бұрын
"Stop playing the game, only play it the way I want you to play it" K.
@sikirebirth
@sikirebirth 4 жыл бұрын
I like how Scott's trying to play the devil's advocate while we can clearly see even from the survivors pov that he was literally not camping.
@quepasaa
@quepasaa 4 жыл бұрын
This video sums up every survivor main streamer that only plays SWF.
@lolsa123
@lolsa123 4 жыл бұрын
not really
@justwatch7091
@justwatch7091 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, they also play as killer and they are toxic and entitled as killer as well. Assholes will be assholes. Doesn't matter which character they play as.
@xTHEARBITER117
@xTHEARBITER117 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, you’re being really nice, too nice. I was looking back and saw, they did no gens in the first clip, the trash talker doesn’t do anything right, and I’m convinced he’s a rank 15 killer
@mq8858
@mq8858 4 жыл бұрын
15? That’s quite generous of you. But I agree, he’s being too nice lol.
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