Conincidentally, my mother-in-law is an archivist with a particular interest in preserving digital media and ngl, it's not looking great, especially with the new idea that any content on the internet can be scraped to train AI, folks are getting more cagey with their data which is totally understandable. Sites like The Way Back Machine are super useful tools for internet historians, so like, the best way to help preserve these sorts of services is actually to donate when they do fundraisers (you know, like Wikipedia)
@SMNFXCN19 күн бұрын
Internet Archive is far more deserving of donations, they are constantly hit with lawsuits and paying for storage to archive all of the data that gets uploaded all the time is expensive. Wikipedia deserves donations too, but they beg for money so that they do not have to resort to ads. They are swimming in money but want to keep the site up for generations.
@Stavv_5 ай бұрын
I'm sure people would still agree with me that if cartoon creators themselves, recommend you to pirate their creations, you know you f**ked up as a company!
@spinjitzumasterfalcon5 ай бұрын
My only problem with that is the possibility of getting hacked and the awful ads. But in my opinion, if it’s to save media, than yes
@WolfBoy-om6dw5 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@kootunesscrewy5 ай бұрын
Well there's WCO.
@spinjitzumasterfalcon5 ай бұрын
@@kootunesscrewythat is true. And pretty safe. Although I think DVD should be the better alternative for those like me who are worried about viruses and other things.
@mjhtv53975 ай бұрын
luckily, there is this one site I found called VIPSTREAM that doesn't have this problem. It never opens new tabs when you click on anything and there's little to no ads there. The only ads that do pop up are links to sites that are very similar to VIPSTREAM just in case anything happens to it.
@mjhtv53975 ай бұрын
luckily, there is this one site I found called VIPSTREAM that doesn't have this problem. It never opens new tabs when you click on anything and there's little to no ads there. The only ads that do pop up are links to sites that are very similar to VIPSTREAM just in case anything happens to it.
@Mizu_Melon5 ай бұрын
Since the HBO Cartoon Purge was mentioned, here's a Fun Fact about it: When HBO removed a bunch of Cartoon Network shows, they somehow forgot a single episode of Uncle Grandpa, which caused the internet to meme about Uncle Grandpa being one of the most powerful beings in animation (which as someone that watched the show a lot as a kid, he absolutely is).
@Imperials3nate2 ай бұрын
In addition, I think the specific episode was titles "Fleas help me!" (was related to help and fleas anyway). VERY POETIC
@MrGrandpapaАй бұрын
from my very small knowledge of uncle grandpa, it's only fitting he was the last man standing. and he is indeed one of the most powerful beings in animation.
@fireknight41515 ай бұрын
To quote a wise man "Do what you want cause a pirate is free. You are a pirate."
@TheyCallMeIce5 ай бұрын
Ya-har fiddle di dee, Being a pirate is alright with me!
@Silver77cyn5 ай бұрын
If buying isn't owning. Then pirating isn't stealing.
@Blajah_5 ай бұрын
True...
@Socioromanticism5 ай бұрын
That's a logically iffy saying I don't think people are thinking about critically, and I wish people would use full statements over zingers to make their points. It's pedancy. Simply, just because you can't _own_ a thing you buy doesn't mean it's now automatically up for piracy. Just because an act isn't _stealing_ doesn't automatically mean it's not unethical/illegal/wrong. Better arguments consider who has the rights to the IP, what they lose when you infringe on their copyright/service, and what harm comes (socially, economically, emotionally) when services _that are NOT OURS_ are being used in ways the IP owner doesn't consent to. If someone wants to pirate from Disney, it's generally illegal and pretty decidedly unethical. But the harm that comes to "Disney," writ large, is (in practice) negligible. Not without any harm: people, human artists, who are not money-grubbers and would not exploit access to their art on their own, may not want to see their designs utilized outside of Disney. We can assume they don't care, but you don't know until they explicit say or you explicitly ask. And this saying absolutely doesn't apply to smaller artists who get paid for every use of their art, performance, etc. This saying would further kill voice acting as a career. Voice actors don't sell their voice or even their lines, in perpetuity, very easily or very cheaply. And it's contracted for each voice actor making a living for a period of time for a very specific purpose. Using that performance and likeness outside of what they agree to invites all kinds of nonconsented use that makes a paying career as a voice actor unsustainable. That same logic would apply to any artist in a time where many works of art can be duplicated. I'm just saying the folks using this saying aren't really thinking about it. And folks who are very anti-piracy and have a decent grasp of logic would tear it to shreds. As they ought to, because I don't want folks defending reasonable access to art and rights of artists to use such an easily refutted banner.
@WolfBoy-om6dw5 ай бұрын
Amen!
@wordydird5 ай бұрын
@@Socioromanticismthank you! I have very little against piracy but it really bothers me how many people just say this line like a "gotcha!"
@MifaWasTaken5 ай бұрын
This is true. We don't own the media we buy, we're just buying a license to use said media that the people we buy these licenses from have the right to disable our access to it. So saying piracy isn't stealing is some what correct.
@docopoper5 ай бұрын
I paid for Prime Video just so that I could watch Hazbin Hotel, as I was more than willing to pay to see it. But apparently because I'm on Linux Amazon Prime refused to give me the show in anything other than Standard Definition (480p). Apparently this is because in order to have the option of viewing the content in HD (which I was paying for) they wanted Windows or Mac to certify to them that I wasn't trying to pirate their content. Apparently because Linux actually gives me full control over what happens on my computer I am by default a pirate to them that wants to rip their content. And ironically they pushed me towards piracy by giving me such substandard service. I made sure to play each episode on Prime after I had watched the HD version in order to show on their analytics that the show is why I subscribed, and I paid for my subscription for as long as the show ran. But I can honestly say I am never going to pay for Prime Video again. Their automatic distrust of me for caring about my privacy really rubbed me the wrong way.
@Dave1026935 ай бұрын
All of the streaming services hates Linux...and also Windows to a lesser degress.
@TheyCallMeIce5 ай бұрын
@@Dave102693Streaming services hate PCs. Like... period. They DESPISE the fact that you can use just about any app you want. Linux just so happens to be the best at user freedom.
@ceinwenchandler47165 ай бұрын
Wait, really? I like Linux. Is there a way you can tell me how you pirated the show (without using a link, since KZfaq automatically hides comments that contain those)?
@ElNeroDiablo5 ай бұрын
@@ceinwenchandler4716 Same way you get community-spread Linux ISO's without relying on a major CDN like AWS or Cloudflare. Just need to know the sites to search.
@Friendly_Neigborhood_Astolfo3 ай бұрын
I want prime just to watch Re: Creators and Hazbin Hotel (seriously it was the only way to watch Vinland Saga 1 for a while)
@StellarWheat55 ай бұрын
Piracy is an accessibly issue. If you can't get something ether for it being too expensive or too hard to obtain, people will find a way to get it. If you make things easy to gain legally, people will gain it legally due to it being the easiest solution. (Great vid btw)
@ElNeroDiablo5 ай бұрын
This is what Gabe Newell proved with his commentary about "Piracy is a Service Issue" and why video game piracy on PC has dropped since 2004 as more and more games have been made available through Steam which has regular seasonal discounts and sales to encourage people to buy games they might not be comfortable paying full price for but still have a refund window in case the game isn't for them (though the refund window part has been a bit of a legal issue Steam didn't always service properly, taking an Aussie court case from the ACCC to get the current refund policy).
@obambagaming14673 ай бұрын
Wasn't this like the case with Summertime Rendering?
@melasnexperience5 ай бұрын
I keep thinking of the Xwitter comment that someone who works on The Casagrandes made about "just support the official releases & buy the merch/DVDs, cuz piracy is inherently evil", and one of the first QTs was the creator of Infinity Train pointing out how he's had to rely on pirated rips to get a copy of his own series to keep & that 90% of animated shows don't get merch anymore, let alone home releases for repeat viewing. There's no guarantee that an official release will be available at all, let alone indefinitely, and it's extremely depressing. Anyway, I look forward to a return to prominence of the Bootleg DVD Guys at cons; they already allowed me to own the full series of Megas XLR (which is another banished-via-tax-writeoff series), and I'm sure they're hard at work now filling the void left by legitimate markets yet again.
@teradul24805 ай бұрын
Also, while Game of Thrones kinda fell meteorically from the cultural zeitgeist, they ACTIVELY BOASTED about how it was the most pirated show ever. So even the "it hurts creators" argument is not as clear as it might seem.
@NiohArcadia5 ай бұрын
As harsh as it might seem but if your series/job security can't survive despite piracy being ever rampant then you probably shouldn't be working in such a field in the first place 🤷♂️ "Hurting the creator" with piracy when we're talking about multimillion dollar entertainement conglomerates is a halarious concept to me.
@AshValentine.5 ай бұрын
I think every worker of every show and animation needs to learn about the Toy Story 2 situation, how the only reason it was saved was because someone kept a physical copy of it at home It is so, so incredibly important for any worker, if they are able, to save and archive physical or digital copies of what they work on during multiple stages of production. Corporations cannot ever be trusted with thier hard work and love, and they really need to take precautions
@ariadnemeo73605 ай бұрын
In my country we have a LOT of piracy and no one bats an eye. It's just that "media" isn't only "entertainment", it's also CULTURE, and a lot of people can't access by the legally correct way. There's a lot of important media that I wouldn't experience if not for piracy, and yes, when I can I buy it to help the creators, but I can't say that piracy is wrong
@AKASunWukong5 ай бұрын
Fun fact : in denmark, Disney+ now costs 1.000kr every year (which is just as much as it sounds to us danes).
@Scourgething5 ай бұрын
That's approximately 150 Euros/US dollars.
@AKASunWukong5 ай бұрын
@@Scourgething It is, but in Danish money (as far as I know anyway I live in Denmark but I’m still figuring out the money parts) 1.000kr is almost as much as what maybe 500-1.000 dollars or so would be (from what I understand anyways I might be wrong-)
@SlapstickGenius235 ай бұрын
That’s so dim..
@JH-pe3ro5 ай бұрын
I've never had great qualms about piracy - I get the hypothetical argument around it, but I also engage in it. What I would instead question about how we do things now are: 1. The producer-consumer premise of media production. The reason why piracy is "harmful" has to do with how we tiptoe around the consumer model, and we can't see another way out of it because that is how post-war capitalism functions. This is NOT just about the shows we like - it's also the plight of the so-called "iPad kids", who learn to use electronics just in the sense of launching apps and receiving dopamine. Anything resembling genuine computer literacy is taught only in a professionalized context, as if media were a priesthood. This era makes a lot of production moves that only make sense on a spreadsheet, versus thinking about culture in terms of sharing wisdom. 2. The role of media productions in a consumer society. The reason why investment can appear for TV and movies has something to do with the narratives they create at a national level, and to some extent, internationally as well. When a "prestige film" engages with some Important Topic, it's drawing on the energy for that discussion to be had at a national level. It follows up on preceding political narratives, and it allows critics to create derivative commentary about it. Hollywood wants "Barbenheimers" because those indicate a successful normalization of a political outlook - they are the kind of projects that powerful people will fund. Simpler entertainment like the MCU also isn't immune to this: it's made to be non-challenging, so the productions fall into a formula intended to let everyone pat themselves on the back. When we engage in piracy both of these things are challenged. The content lacks exclusivity: it isn't a thing we "reward" ourselves with in the sense of putting up hard-earned money. And it gives us more opportunities to contrast the views of the past with those of the present, to compare, for example, how James Bond was portrayed in the 1960's versus today. Often the critics celebrate progress in media, but then you go through the record and see that actually, nothing happened after the last five "breakthroughs". Piracy is both easier and harder now depending on what you're doing. There is a lot more spam and more aggressive attempts to control your machine than in the past, when the most that happened was a virus that caused some data loss. But it's also easy to reach pirate streams and torrents for many popular things. I would describe it as the world going through a phase where everything became "knowable" for a while - when it was all there, posted on social media or a streaming service, but the investment climate was still pushing money into the system - and then the gradual decay into darkness that has taken hold lately as the economic model failed and no savior technology is allowing it to be rehabilitated, in fact, it seems to be accelerating. It's a very good time to be engaged in a DIY community and express yourself in a non-professionalized way. I've found a space with retrocomputing since there is a new crop of hardware mixing old and new chips together to create computers that would have been the envy of any 80's hobbyist - open designs that can be completely understood, unlike an iPad. That kind of knowledge is worth preserving and passing down.
@Socioromanticism5 ай бұрын
I very much appreciate the context here. It deserves more of a reply than I'll give it, but I do agree that anti-piracy folks (I'm generally "anti-piracy," in theory, but most media is produced by large entities with resources and teams that could not create larger works of art by themselves or buy art to distribute made by other teams of creatives who may have different opinions on if they want their art to be accessible and to what extent.) ...I agree most anti-piracy folks lump "creators" with "owners" and do not discuss harm and financial compensation when determining what the cost is to the people who made the art. So something made by a solo artist (say, a voice actor) being used in a way they didn't consent to being pirated for AI really burns me. I really don't care if someone pirates a show/movie/game owned and copyrighted by a big company especially if the creatives who aren't rich don't get meaningful royalties. I think you mention it, but it's weird that we've embedded a social good into a capitalist economic structure. It's kinda necessary, because having a benefactor, private or governmental, restricts artistic freedom. But so does working for a company or even being beholden to an audience that only wants to hear you play "that one song" and won't go to your concert if you never play "that one song" even though you don't want to always play "that one song." In practice, I'm against most piracy. But I feel like the art that is consumed and known by most people is "fine" to pirate, because it bypasses a lot of the qualms I have with consent and compensation (because the people who _created_ the art don't have the copyrights to the art and can no longer be paid for the art.)
@Ozzianman3 ай бұрын
@@Socioromanticism Yep. Most of the games I pirate is not available for purchase anymore. Pricing on the 2nd hand market is often so ridiculously expensive it is straight up unreasonable to expect someone to buy the game used. PS3 and 360 games are often quite cheap on the 2nd hand market so I tend to buy them instead of pirating. The same goes for a bunch of PS2 and Xbox games, though it is becoming more expensive. Console generations before that tends to be quite expensive. Anything Nintendo will be sold at full price or higher no matter what. Piracy has become the best method of digital preservation when the big companies don't bother to do it and I believe copyright law needs a reform.
@anony_apis5 ай бұрын
i first found out about infinity train from character compilations and i was so sad when i heard it was gone, since i only found out it existed years after its release and cancellation
@MegaManNeo5 ай бұрын
The same you said about TV shows and movies applies to music and videogames as well, with music being the one that's probably still the easiest one to distribute across multiple services. I really can't blame anyone for pirating these things anymore, especially with raising prices for these services but if I can, I still try to support the creators by buying a legit copy of the media I want. Funny enough, video on demand services started as cheaper and better alternative to cable and sat TV. Now, it's essentially the same except online.
@liittlemiissd5 ай бұрын
Things are getting really bad for Rooster Teeth, what’s going to happen to brilliant adult animation like Camp Camp if it can’t get sold? It’s not got a huge audience (it should be more popular, but different discussion) people are going to have no choice but to pirate it.
@Static-Static5 ай бұрын
All four seasons are currently available on Tubi
@ratzomimic89875 ай бұрын
I am just praying we can save RWBY because I grew up with the early seasons. Haven't seen the latest ones but I hope it is saved.
@Socioromanticism5 ай бұрын
I think not watching it is also an option. I feel like there's an unspoken assumption that we must have access to all media being made. We don't. That's a call by the people who own (or created) that media. I get less particular about the "we shouldn't feel entities to view any art that has been made" when said media is owned by people who didn't create it and are fine financially.
@Friendly_Neigborhood_Astolfo3 ай бұрын
@@ratzomimic8987i wouldnt be suprised if Crunchyroll picked it up
@TommyDeonauthsArchives5 ай бұрын
They say piracy is no party... If only the big corporations are willing to bring what we want to the party!
@K473N5 ай бұрын
Yarr Maties Im a pirate
@KiyoshiArts5 ай бұрын
For me, most of the pirate movies I have seen have been due to how pricey they were to be seen at movies theaters. Another thing is that it’s so much harder to get a legal copy like a DVD since people love trying to profit off hard to get media
@NoiseDay5 ай бұрын
Again? I ain't never stopped
@michaelsingh84875 ай бұрын
Hey Fiona! Did you know a new CD is being put in the works that holds up to 200 terabytes of info? Plus, they're supposed to last at least 50 years at minimum. Can't wait for this to go public!
@TheyCallMeIce5 ай бұрын
Info on what? Like shows, tutorials on how to dump them? And more importantly, where do you get them?
@iamtheautism5 ай бұрын
@@TheyCallMeIcethey mean something with the potential to hold up to 200 terabytes of data I believe (potential as in you can hold up to that amount not like it’s potentially that much no it just is that much)
@comradeinternet4675 ай бұрын
Like AI and automation, this tech will only benefit capitalists until regular folks overthrow them and put control of that tech in proletarian hands.
@luigiboi42445 ай бұрын
One show I hope shall be remembered is Transformers Animated. It basically helped create the serialization format, its art style is unique yet pays homage to the previous Transformers series, and most impressively it gave accurate transformation sequences that matched up with the toys. That last one may not sound impressive, but this series started in 2007 and ended in 2009 and was entirely 2D animated.
@EvieWren5 ай бұрын
Yes! Outside of people very deep into the fandom, I rarely hear this show ever mentioned! I'm a big fan of the Transformers shows, but seeing as Hasbro doesn't really have a streaming service itself, no one *legal* site has all the shows. Which... Sucks.
@maninanikittycat42385 ай бұрын
I've been watching Transformers animated and I'm obsessed! TFA is the show that got me into Transformers! My favorite character is Prowl.
@powerviolentnightmare50265 ай бұрын
Piracy is good actually.
@nonamegiven2025 ай бұрын
yeah imo, laws require all parties to be acting in good faith but when say Paramount can remove star trek prodigy (being the only place to watch the whole season legally) while caning it's already finished second season for a tax write off, it's 100% clear that corporations are NOT holding up their end of things. Like i'm going to watch things legally where i can, but i'm 100% behind archiving everything because that's the level of distrust they have earn.
@abandonedcharcoal54045 ай бұрын
Fun fact. A super edgy antipiracy ad played before a Barbie movie.
@henryfleischer4045 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be so inclined to piracy if the alternative weren't choosing between spending 30% of my income on streaming services I barely use individually or $300 on a blu-ray that I can't play on my computer. Also, there's the matter of untranslated stuff. One of my favorite manga is Lilly System, which is only officially in Japanese and Spanish. And once I watch Char's Counterattack, I'm going to need to read Gaia Gear, which probably will never get an English release. A lot of the manga I read is on Dynasty Reader, which mostly has Yuri Doujin manga- the kind of stuff that rarely makes it overseas. Occasionally I'll find manga has been removed because it's gotten a Western English release. I also buy a lot of CDs. Most of the musicians I follow mostly release music on CD at Comiket, and people upload it to youtube. I'll watch it on KZfaq, then buy it on CD if I like it.
@Clover5735 ай бұрын
Most of the artists I listen to tend to upload their music on bandcamp and make available on both CDs and vinyl.
@sunsetcolored2595 ай бұрын
Honestly, I'd really love to to see you make a video on your thoughts about Infinity Train specifically. It was treated so horribly on so many levels, from book 5 being scrapped for not having a "child entry point" ( when it was already supposed to be approved under the initial contract! the script was done! ), to the execs at CN ghosting Owen Dennis when he tried to appeal, to the lack of marketing and official merchandise for it, the refusal to put books 3 and 4 on DVD, to finally it being taken off of HBO Max /and/ places like ITunes and Amazon Prime Video. The only way left for it to be bought officially now is the DVDs, and even then you can only get book 1 and book 2. And there's no telling how long those will still be accessible.
@sunsetcolored2595 ай бұрын
Also, Owen Dennis reached out to them after it was removed from ITunes, Amazon Prime Video, etc etc to find out why they were removing it all of a sudden after months of leaving it up on those platforms, and as far as I know he still has yet to get an answer from them. They won't even tell him what's happening to his own show.
@modcrypt45 ай бұрын
Maybe we should just start a black market of burned dvds containing all these different shows and stuff
@ceinwenchandler47165 ай бұрын
My dad pretty much did that with our whole extended family. We all pooled all the physical DVDs we owned, and then he ripped all the movies and put them on hard drives - one for each immediate family within the extended family - and distributed them amongst our households. Not exactly piracy (I think?), but it's the same general idea you mentioned.
@modcrypt45 ай бұрын
@@ceinwenchandler4716 yeah. My family was the same, but usually it was films and series from sites like the piratebay instead of other family members
@Dave1026935 ай бұрын
Why don't people use Blu Rays? Why is it always dvds?
@CreativeWM_Personal5 ай бұрын
@@Dave102693copy protection
@wolfman-zd1ed5 ай бұрын
@@Dave102693 I mean people tend to still call blu ray discs "dvd's" Even I do.
@unknownsoldier63675 ай бұрын
Yes, the answer is yes
@aidennevada2435 ай бұрын
One of the worst things Netflix has done is cancelling Inside Job just when it got good (well, better, it was always good). There was clearly story built for at least one more season, maybe more. I'm still pissed, it was so good! At least we have fanfiction.
@austagtheglorious45345 ай бұрын
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me!
@KLange765 ай бұрын
A compulsory License system would help, its why radio works. instead of focusing on people sharing the content they got which in turn would increase interest in a better copy, we could focus on the real bad actors. it would be easy for google to just add a form to KZfaq to ask people where the content came from and then slap an ad on it.
@TheobaldLeonhart5 ай бұрын
Yes Edit: Ok, I actually feel like elaborating For me, it's mostly because I don't want to spend a bunch of money on subscriptions. Or it's an HBO Max exclusive. Which sucks for me, because I'm Canadian And I know I could just buy episodes off of the Google Play store, but that's hundreds of dollars. And not all of the shows/seasons I want to watch, are available (looking at you, Infinity Train) So while I do want to support the creators, it's pretty much just Netflix or...This one site I'd mention, if I wasn't worried about KZfaq deleting my comment And also preservation, but that's not really important to me personally
@shadowknight1990o5 ай бұрын
As an anime fan of 10+ years I know how to go sniffing for those dedicated, at least in regards to anime. And frankly I'll go back if crunchyroll goes belly up and there's no replacement. I want to stream legally but like most anime fans who've been around a while if we need to pirate, then hoist the colors because we'll pirate.
@FleegleFazbeagle5 ай бұрын
I, technically, pirated something before. The first instance was when I wanted to watch Cats Don't Dance so my mom showed me it when I came home from school through Dailymotion since we weren't able to access a DVD nor VHS. The second instance was when Willy's Wonderland (a horror movie about demonically possessed animatronics) first released in February and someone uploaded the whole film on KZfaq and 15 year old me watched it despite the film and it was a dumb film but I liked it. The third instance was when I saw episode 2 and 3 of Hazbin through Dailymotion. So, if it's to preserve or access media easily, yes, it's ok.
@f1mbultyr5 ай бұрын
I never stopped
@f1mbultyr5 ай бұрын
To add to this, when I buy or rent dvds here in Germany (our public libraries have astoundingly extensive dvd collections), I get the original audio, German dub and German subtitles. I like to watch my non-German, non-English media with either English subs or original language subs (when learning said language). I have to pirate those.
@-themightymittens-5 ай бұрын
I'd never have gotten to see infinity train or season 5 of SU if it weren't for piracy. If you can watch a show legally and want to support the company, do that. If you can't/ don't want to support the company behind it, yo ho ho matey 🏴☠ If buying isn't owning or there's no way to even buy it in the first place, piracy can't be stealing.
@sup3rsn8ke5 ай бұрын
So I found my old PS3 and i wanted to build a collection of games, but the thing is, NONE of the games on the ps3 that are being officially sold on the storefront are actually worth buying due to them being remastered on other platforms, and the ones that ARE worth playing are listed as "Disc Only." I would love to support the developers but due to the state of the storefront i really cant, and thats before we get into the matter of who the money is going to because sometimes the studio that makes the games has been long defunct. That leaves me with 2 options, either find a physical copy of a game on ebay thats often overpriced and/or in bad condition (and thats if the game had a physical release) OR go on a website and download the files and play it direct on the console with the console acting as a glorified emulator, and for the past 6 months, thats what ive been doing. Is it piracy, legally yes, And i dont regret it one bit.
@TheDeadmanDante5 ай бұрын
While I don't mind using any piracy website/app for consuming media, my biggest complaint regarding these mediums is how they almost always advertise +18 websites. For a 21 year old man in the states, I can get around this easily, but I have a strong hunch that stuff like this might drive away users who are 13 or under.
@greenstarlover15 ай бұрын
AdBlock. A must for these websites.
@BeneathFullMoon4 ай бұрын
I've never stopped.
@Varinating5 ай бұрын
An example to why piracy is the only option: Disney+ came to my country 2 years ago. Before that, the only way to re-watch Disney movies legally was to have them on CD, and forget about their new shows like Owl House, there was no way to watch that legally. Another problem with this is that when a streaming service has a show, the others won't have it. If the streaming service that has a show is only available in North America, then the rest of the world is going to have to pirate it if they want to watch it. The services provide no choice.
@timidwolf5 ай бұрын
The restrictions are the main issue, it's funny to think how much money they miss out on by not selling to people whom WOULD pay for it if that were an option, only for those consumers to instead: 1. Get it for free or 2. Pay money to someone else. Though. of course other factors can be at play. For example, the first four episodes of Doctor Who (classic) are not available on BBC as the son of the writer is basically holding it hostage. People seem to be actively encouraging the piracy of these episodes (the guy holding them certainly hasn't garnered any support, quite the opposite in fact), I wouldn't even be surprised if the BBC intentionally leaves it in their blind spot.
@postal2forthe3ds5 ай бұрын
as a 17 year old who loves ancient shooting games and has no money piracy has really been a life saver for me. some of these older fps games cost hundreds to obtain legally due to their scarcity and you literally have to pirate them
@Fionapollo5 ай бұрын
YESSSS lots of ppl say this abt old Nintendo games as well bc unless ur willing to pay $$$ for the remaining cartridges, the only option is to get them through an emulator bc nintendo refuses to port their older games
@rachelthesheep5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, it was very insightful! It also reminded me to cancel my Disney+ subscription, hahaha. Been meaning to for the last few months but ADHD being what it is... 😅
@Mediados5 ай бұрын
I want to stream lawfully as much as I can. But living in Europe means that some of the best shows just don't make it here, and if the choice is to either pirate or not watch at all, it's pretty clear. They just don't let me pay them.
@silveramyknux2415 ай бұрын
21:22 I really hope I can see Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi some day. It really seems like my type of show.
@Eymbr5 ай бұрын
Here's my opinion. Screw corporations. Support indi, pirate corporate. I'm at that point where I've seen some of my favorite pieces of media bastardized, ignored and cancled by corporate greed and I'm done with it. I will be creating digital copies of the media I own to preserve them incase disc rot strikes.
@thechaotimagnet5 ай бұрын
Huh... I am actually planning on going to library school next year for my masters. My plan was not to go into archives but your call to action is inspiring and I at least want to look into what that side of the degree would look like.
@Fionapollo4 ай бұрын
Honestly? My partner looked into archiving jobs lately (mostly as a joke bc im obsessed with the magnus archives atm) and not only do they look really interesting but the pay isn't terrible either sooooo
@thevioletskull81585 ай бұрын
I didn't know you could ask for show/video ect media at a library,maybe that can help with finding lost media
@SpeedCap_draws5 ай бұрын
I'm not a fan of pirating media, but that feels like the only way to watch things because of streaming services and shows getting cancelled
@randirafaeli5 ай бұрын
I live in a thrid world country. For me to watch Harley is not possible I have to get a vpn and then getting max. Which is a pain and may not work properly which is another pain. Netlfix is available with a nice library and that is why I would be happy to sub. But then If netflix decide to get rid of a show aka final space for example then it will be lost media and gone forever. Infinity train had the same fate. Also the reason why I hate also netflix is that there is one nigerian show produced by nigerian and with nigerian cast, and not even available on disney+ nigeria. There is the City hunter anime that I want to watch the original version but I couldn't find any legal way to get it. Even the pirate streaming services doesn't have it. And at least for me it is lost media.
@FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr4 ай бұрын
Really? Wow! Haven’t seen City Hunter, but I’ve heard a lot about it from fans. I would think at least the pirates would have it through fansubs from long ago. If that’s true, that’s horrible! If it has so many fans from now and long ago, it should be available at least with the pirates. Edit: I was able to find it in English subs. Idk if it will help, but when I have trouble to find certain titles. I try to look up alternative names for the series. Like its main English name, the Japanese one, any other particular titles that might come up. Sometimes checking MyAnimeList for all the different titles helps. I also like Wikipedia. I was able to find the series on a site that has both anime and cartoons. I’m not sure if that will be enough to help. Without actually saying the name of the site. I want the site to remain up. I don’t want anyone out there to get ideas of shutting it down because I said the name. If you are able to get to that site from your country or with a VPN, you might be able to watch City Hunter. It is through an unofficial(non-legal) type site though. I guess, with this one, in particular, maybe the initials will be alright. The initials are w c o s . The site has been going by its initials lately. Every time I’ve typed the name into the address bar, I’ve always managed to be taken to the site though.
@acryptidthatdraws5 ай бұрын
to quote Mystery Science Theatre 3000: keep circulating the tapes! or, the files for today's formats.
@GDRhythmic5 ай бұрын
Definitely
@OcioCamaraMx4 ай бұрын
The shift from piracy as a metod to ilegally watch someting without paying to the only way the media has been preserved and not lost is scary af. Always been a fan of physical media and got laughed at and called a "boomer" in an insulting way because "streaming is the future and everything it's just on the cloud" how bad has that aged specially considering that person is an Infinity Train fan, if only they had release DVD/Blue-rays
@80yearoldman983 ай бұрын
Your artwork is so gorgeous
@larryhendrickson53775 ай бұрын
I really hope the Coyote movie escapes into the wild, if anything to embarrass WB leadership 😈
@degenerativewalnut90795 ай бұрын
Wait, we stopped pirating at one point?
@Jiggelmeister5 ай бұрын
I see ur production value steadily increasing 😁 love the vid
@jacquelinewright8685 ай бұрын
Fionapollo!
@Fionapollo5 ай бұрын
Jacquelinewright868!!!
@Randy_Racc00n5 ай бұрын
Yarg! I don't watch shows at all anymore, so I have no use for piracy but do what you want
@Bismuguy5 ай бұрын
This whole situation has been pretty 🦣
@something-from-elsewhere5 ай бұрын
I fully believe that bar the most extreme of edge cases, any random pirate will have far more respect for a property than its IP holder. Media preservation is gonna be made far more difficult than needed, for as long as art is viewed as a financial asset rather than a cultural one. And I really don't think we'll properly treat it as the latter, as a society, as long as it's considered the former. So piracy is low-key made *cooler* when it disrespects the ip rights of evil megacorporations. _koff koff umg koff koff disney_ Profitability will _never_ be a good measure of significance, quality, cultural relevance... _anything_ that matters to _people._ In other words... yar har fiddle-dee-dee :3
@ceinwenchandler47165 ай бұрын
No one is more nuts about preserving my creations than I am myself. But I'm pretty sure you're right about all the corporations. I didn't feel a whole lot of guilt about pirating episodes of The Owl House.
@something-from-elsewhere5 ай бұрын
@@ceinwenchandler4716 I more or less meant personal ownership by "extreme edge cases". Like ig that was _reaaallly_ poorly worded now I think of it but I really just meant it's not even in the same ballpark as corporate ownership Honestly struggled a while with it and kinda just gave up when I was writing my original comment -w-'
@ceinwenchandler47165 ай бұрын
@@something-from-elsewhere Oh, yeah. I've been in that situation a million times before, typing out the same general thing seventeen times and still not knowing how to say it. Now that I know what you meant - yeah, I 100% agree with what you're saying.
@something-from-elsewhere5 ай бұрын
@@ceinwenchandler4716 Mmhm haha, more than once I've just given up in the sense of like.... not sayin anything so least I got what I was tryin to out if a bit inelegantly. Today in particular has been kinda bad for it, chock it up to bein distracted ig >w
@thakonwitwechpiat76895 ай бұрын
Despite the needed quality and service, Netflix, Amazon Prime, or any official legal streaming platforms doesn’t always have all films or series I wish to watch especially if they are 80s, 90s, and 2000s films no matter how they are interesting or actually good. The even worse is most of them are out of expiration and removed without proper preparation within one month in due to copyright. In most cases, people and I ended up finding good live actions or cartoons by relying on random pirate websites and try to ignored tons of pornography and gambling advertisements. Who knows these websites could give inspirations for some artists even after the end of humanity?
@Birbles-birbington5 ай бұрын
A personal example in favour of piracy is SMT 4 which is considered to be one of the best games on the 3ds it was never released physically over in Europe and since the 3ds line is region locked so the only way to get it over here was via the Eshop but now it’s gone so aside from finding a 3ds which has it already installed it is almost impossible to obtain it legally with your only choices being what I mentioned before or finding a 3ds from outside Europe and a copy of the game which is only gonna get more expensive as time goes on (or you could just emulate it)
@justaghostinthesea4 ай бұрын
I prefer to consume my media legally, but in cases like Infinity Train or Over the Garden Wall, there's really not another option. That, combined with how expensive streaming services are getting, makes it really difficult to find a reason to continue paying when I know that the content I love could be removed at any point.
@poseidons_child.5 ай бұрын
My one friend doesn’t have Disney+ so when Percy Jackson came out she went on one of her illegal websites and watched it.
@cosmosuniverse59865 ай бұрын
I 100% believe in pirating dead media. One of my favorite old shcool anime Brave Police was only released in Japan, and DVDs was never made. So once I found it online to be pirated I downloaded it. So dead media should be pirated to keep it from being truly dead
@unripetheberrby62835 ай бұрын
Ohh the art piece is soo pretty, you did great~ 🥺🥰
@TheSmilesChannel2 ай бұрын
We're killing Peter Pan with this video's thumbnail
@JathenJacksonr2d25 ай бұрын
I'm for piracy of video games, TV shows and movies some games can be too expensive or not worth the money, which I think for the new games they should definitely release a demo if the price of the game is pretty high And I am a supporter of free movies and TV shows legally If the movie and TV show was free to watch then there will be no problem with piracy
@JustA-Person5 ай бұрын
In some cases it’s necessary just to experience a piece of media. For example Mother 3 it’s never been officially released outside of Japan but a fan team made an unofficial translation that’s incredible. Let’s not get into why it hasn’t been officially localized because that’s a topic and a half on its own but it’s a great game that deserves to be played. (I highly recommend it) And if piracy is the only way to do it then yohoho mateys!
@Ozzianman3 ай бұрын
Even if Mother 3 got an official translation, it would most likely be worse than the unofficial fan translation.
@MommaDusk5 ай бұрын
If I want to watch something, I'd be happy to buy it. Digital downloads should be easy to get after something has been released for a while. Streaming services dropped the ball on this.
@Jeminix25 ай бұрын
Yes
@mileslugo64305 ай бұрын
Yes Cpt. Green bangs, i would like to learn more.
@zaneheaston82545 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if a company took this video down, despite free speech
@harveymaltezmansilla80985 ай бұрын
I think Piracy is a bit of an Unorthodox-ed Method but I think it could be useful for Preserving a Show or Movie.
@Tazer_Silverscar5 ай бұрын
Go your Nan X'D This was a pretty good video, nice job!
@NiohArcadia5 ай бұрын
Personally I don't fear the all digital future of media such as videogames, manga, comics, movies etc. What I'm actually afraid of the future of onwership of said entertainment media and the future landscape for artists being current very unkown. Imagine being an animator on Roadrunner vs Willey Coyote for example it's one of your first major projects to add tonyour resume. It gets cancled and deleted. How do you meanfully tell your next employer you worked on a film that literally inaccessible or just... doesn't exist anymore before it ever got released.
@Parambolumberienriatta5 ай бұрын
I'm a pirate, like my father before me.
@Rydrake65 ай бұрын
Yar har fiddle dee dee
@HK47_1155 ай бұрын
6:50 I know you just explain how people felt about films back in the day why did they put more effort into the preservation of those films back then. But just hearing that data deliberately destroyed them destroying a huge bit of film history just because they couldn't do a good job at preserving it for some reason heard a piece of my soul. Cuz I feel like when it comes to media, every single last bit of it should be preserved whether they be movies, TV shows, books, music, and even fucking video games. Hell, that last one I'm trying to do my own contribution of preservation just by getting footage of said media. Because it's easier to get away with recording that and it's not considered piracy. Mainly because you physically cannot pirate a game like that and it's not even considered piracy for video games. I mean you can't even control anything. No, this is a different case scenario when you get into story-based choice games. Word controls don't matter, gameplay doesn't matter, and it's all about the story. Meaning you could just watch it on KZfaq and don't need to ever play the game. Ethically and morally complicated, but for the most part at least you're well preserved and nobody's ever going to forget about them. Did I specifically mention video games because the reason why hearing about films just deliberately being destroyed and no further attempts to preserve them hurt my solar pit is because this is already happening to video games as well. Not even recently but today. I remember hearing about an article that was going over a percentage of video games that were basically lost Media or in some sort of copyright limbo due to the dissolvement of their original company. Leaving them pretty much no longer available to anybody. Back when I was a little kid during the Xbox 360 and PS3 days, there were tons and tons and tons of games. And unfortunately at least 12% of those titles now are gone forever or in a copyright limbo. For some people who don't know, this can be way worse than a company just voting a title and not bringing it out until it's ready to go into the public domain where they registered the copyright again and see if they can make a review 20 years later. They're kind of preserving that media even though they're not purposely not trying to. And when the day comes to hold on to it long enough to where it ends up in the public domain and they can't register the copyright anymore. And they will have no choice but to get rid of it into the public domain. Thus it will not be lost media. But unfortunately copyright limbs can force the media to be lost in time. The only exception mean for anybody who still has a physical or even digital copy out there. Because those are the two next best back to preserve certain media. The third one being footage at least in the case of video games. Because you can't preserve a multiplayer games along with their servers and a full lobby of players. And there are only a few games out there with accessible multiplayer matches and maps without even a single player beyond the host like call of duty. Where you can explore the map without a single person in your lobby. But of course that will just be an empty Map and no match would be going on. And for those of you who didn't know because I doubt you can do this with the new call of duty games. But back in the day it didn't matter if you didn't have internet connection or not, you can actually still happen to a map just to explore it. So even if you are physically incapable of hopping into a match, you can at least see what the maps look like in the design layout. No, I will say this when it comes to preservation of media that at least nowadays preserving a book, A movie, or a TV show whether digitally or on a DVD as much easier nowadays than preserving a video game if you don't have the physical copy or ROM. Yes those who have their physical addition to digital versions as well. But again it's much easier to preserve something like that when you can just record it and have another copy version of it or burn it onto a DVD. And heck, between those two mediums, music is even easier nowadays to preserve as long as somebody is willing to upload it to the internet with full lyrics, and don't care that they get a copyright claim. And for those two mediums it's easy to transfer to an in storage device as well as those two mediums being very accessible and playable at any time as long as you have a media player that's compatible with their format. Unfortunately though the same cannot be said about video games. You either need to emulate the original council it was on if it's digital or actually have the original physical device if it's a physical copy. It has a reverse compatible digital version of it within their servers that's playable. But that means they would actually have a digital copy in their system that would allow you to play it the second you put it to the disc. And if that feature is still a thing now, because beyond that it still needs to be within their servers to even work for a specific video game. And with my general frustrations on media preservation aside especially with video games, at the end of the day I still think every last piece of media ever made by a human being should be preserved whether it's there from america, japan, europe, or literally anywhere from any part of the world no matter what language it is or what style. Every book, movie, TV show, documentary, video game, scroll, painting, piece of artwork, piece of drawing ever made by I need every human being ever should be stuck into this massive digital and physical library available to the masses. Or better yet a museum library hybrid. And it has to be partially digital that way it's accessible to everybody around the world. But still a physical place where people go in to get physical books, other forms of physical media, and maybe even make their own contributions like hey, here's his DVD nobody's heard about. This film was almost lost to time. Burn it onto your servers. Heck, libraries are already storing movies, TV shows, and video games right next to their books. Libraries are pretty much already doing their part to contribute to Media preservation. They should be funded so they can do a greater, do it more, and do it even harder. Especially with media just becoming lost the time nowadays very easily just because the copyright holders doesn't want to deal with it anymore. And personally I think all libraries around the world should start having servers if they're able to fund them that way their library collection can go digital and become accessible for everybody around the world. Not to mention this will give us a reason to not even have to Pirate anything if it's just available at our local or digital libraries. And I will give more people a reason to have a library card. Go pick up it a copy of your favorite film, a video game you never heard of, and a book series based on that video game all that the same library. Maybe we'll bring back DVD video game until it's just for the library so they can keep on funding that preservation effort. Yes you can get stuff from the library for free but there's a limited amount of time you're allowed to have it. Maybe for $3 you can rent an entire DVD or video game from the library for an entire week. Just pay up front to borrow it for even longer especially if copies are limited. Just need it for a day or two, no need to pay just get that copy. Want it for longer. Then they'll charge you. But if you just don't bring it back then that charge will become your late fee or return fee anyways. If you held on to it long enough. I know it seems weird to come up with a way for libraries to charge for the media they preserve, but again we're talking about helping to fund their preservation efforts and I'm trying to find a way to make it work where they can sell a lot of things to be borrowed for free but for that limited amount of time. Plus hopefully it'll make sure that people are more likely to take care of this media and not destroy it or lose it. Especially if it's harder to get a brand new copy to replace it.
@user-kz4ro9uq4q5 ай бұрын
Honestly on locations there are shows, anime, etc that you can't see. I enjoy watching anime but around me there isn't a store that sells them specifically or only small amounts. Also streaming services suck because something could be on one but then gets removed for another like spider-man was on nexflict but not anymore. Hadn't used streaming services for ages. Only thing with a subscription I use is xbox gamepass because only way to reasonably play/try games because games so expensive.
@senior_sakuga5 ай бұрын
One word. Anime. Ain’t no way in hell I’d be able to watch some of my favorite anime from yesteryear legally. Anime in general yes has been easier than ever to watch in history, a lot of it very much isn’t. Also crunchyroll are clowns so I’m not losing sleep over watching anime on insert website here. And I got enough adblocks XD
@silveramyknux2415 ай бұрын
Off topic, but I like your avatar’s outfit.
@qawamity5 ай бұрын
As a side note, Fiona just ratted out her gran. Grannie Apollo, pack your essentials and run!
@Fionapollo5 ай бұрын
Granniepollo is most likely running an underground cartel, so don't worry, she'll be fine lmao
@Hack_Man_VII5 ай бұрын
I prefer to own something legitimately, but it depends on the circumstances. If it's out of print, or at risk of being lost I can see reason to consider it.
@CrabyMan4 ай бұрын
Got to this one late, but good video as always, Apollo. My thoughts on this are a bit nuance, or at least I like to think they are. But in terms of piracy, I did it when I was younger, and not anymore, I try my hardest to watch my media legenimatly. Here's my thing on terms of lost media I feel like there is maybe an argument for pirating it, especially if no money is to be made anymore. However, especially with animation, money is tight, and a LOT goes into production first and pays checks later. Eventually, that lost money from pirating will affect that budget. I know we like to point at a billion dollar company and say we'll you should have enough to pay, there's criticism to be had there, but bills still need to be paid and I have a hard time believing people would stop even if the problems were fixed. I would just worry that encouraging pirating even if from a creator will backlash. Whether the creator is paid before or after the release of a show, movie ,etc. Hell, there are plenty of people now that pirate things even with it being perfectly available. Now, this next bit might be a bit cold, but streaming platforms, games , movies at the BIG XD theater, are luxuries and as they advance, add new tech or try new styles it will get more expensive. Doesn't matter what economic form it's under. Media will just becomes more expensive. If you're paying for these things, you've probably got it good or okay or at least grew up wealthier, middle class even. Companies and their workers are gonna have that higher price tag to accommodate. That especially doesn't matter if the show is good or bad. You're paying for a service. Plus, you can still criticize bad business practices like cheap lootbox tricks in games or companies not giving shows a proper chance, but two things can be true at once. Finally, at the end of the day, make what argument you want getting caught with piracy has legal consequences. I can't stop anyone from pirating. But if you get caught, take it on the chin, and understand you broke a law, there's gonna be punishment no matter what. I care about artist and the art world. Hell, the new indie animators creating new works is a huge step forward. Though I especially wouldn't want their work being pirated as well should they try to profit off it. Sorry for the long post, but those are my thoughts. Say as ya please comments. Just don't be too crazy.
@clownpal6975 ай бұрын
You are a pirate
@anthonybones2725 ай бұрын
yar arg dilly dee do as you want to be free you are a pirate
@ratzomimic89875 ай бұрын
My opinion, I am strongly against piracy if there is a legal way to experience something. If not I see no harm being done by people who do because there is no way to support the creator anyway and alot of media will be lost otherwise. I do however believe if something you pirated becomes available again you should pay for it.
@thevoidcalls59625 ай бұрын
The only issue with piracy for me is there are no situations where I can do it and maintain the reputation I need to curate to fulfill my political ambitions. I hold no ill will for anyone that does such a thing, but the American pearl clutchers would smear me for doing a lot less. If I maintain a spotless reputation then they need to lie about me to smear my name. That’s slander and slander is a crime that I can leverage to keep my reputation clean. I will make America safe for all that walk it’s streets. Regardless of my wildly unconventional political machinations I wish you all a pleasant day. Sincerely -The Void
@RailRide5 ай бұрын
Someone needs to draw a *Megas XLR* fanart with Coop doing a Captain Morgan pose atop his car/robot, singing: 🎵.. _Yo, Ho Fiddle-de-dee_ _This is the only way you can see meee_ _This must be done 'cause there's no DVD_ _You Arre a Pirate!_ 🎵
@justsomeanimator5 ай бұрын
Buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing
@skeletonlover32144 ай бұрын
good vid
@Random_User6665 ай бұрын
Physical media (DVDs, Blu-Rays etc): “Am I a joke to you?”
@AiligDev5 ай бұрын
If you don't have the money to buy something, I think it is ethical to pirate it.
@time_pug5 ай бұрын
I pirate and archive. I do the good, the bad and the weird!
@time_pug5 ай бұрын
I pirate because I literally can't afford to not do it, the economy sucks
@jr95295 ай бұрын
If thats your only option then absolutely
@ArmaBiologica354 ай бұрын
When did I stop pirating media?
@evee316375 ай бұрын
What's your take on the internet archive for media