Six Feet Under - Talking to myself

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@Feelityourself
@Feelityourself 12 жыл бұрын
This scene broke my heart the moment I realised it's Brenda the one who is saying all those mean things to herself, since dead people in this show are nothing but a tool the writers use in order to show the character's most internal thoughts, fears and traumas. I believe Brenda is one of the most complex and human characters appeared ever on screen.
@11Garrett11
@11Garrett11 5 жыл бұрын
Totally! Everything about Brenda was amazingly written & acted; a very complex life always brewing right there under the surface of Brenda’s calm, cool demeanor. Rachel Griffiths’ portrayal of this character is nothing short of brilliant, including the fact that she’s Australian. Wow!!!
@johnmartin3586
@johnmartin3586 3 жыл бұрын
Brenda was so fascinating and real!
@isaiahvan
@isaiahvan 3 жыл бұрын
@@11Garrett11 I totally understand where Brenda is coming from. She was by far my favorite character on the show and so was Claire, Ruth and David and Iisa but Brenda’s arc towards the end of season 2 was breaking my heart and the moment Nate figured what she had been doing ,Right there in that second you already had known that it was going to be over between them. In season 5 you see her start to struggle emotionally with the consequences of her mistakes. I shed a tear because I had been wanting Nate and Brenda to have a baby for such a long time in the series. To the people who have not seen the series I’m about to give out a spoiler so read at your own risk , I thought it was amazing how she ends up pregnant again and see her character accept who she is now and know that even though her husband was gone that he truly did love her even if they were not together anymore. Her last season arc was just beautiful
@meghnasaha4349
@meghnasaha4349 3 жыл бұрын
I love Nate but i was really pissed off about the Maggie thing, i had to constantly remind myself that he's being such an asshole in the last episode because its Brenda's inner thoughts and not actually Nate
@annajacob7981
@annajacob7981 3 жыл бұрын
For sure Brenda is "complex and human". She's also very bright, honest and wise. She evolved. Nate didn't.
@suncore598
@suncore598 10 жыл бұрын
"I'm bitter? Who's drunk and yelling at a dead woman?" I love that line.
@northernstar5941
@northernstar5941 6 жыл бұрын
having dead characters reveal a characters inner dialogue was a great idea, used to great effect here. not often you get to see directly inside a characters mind on a TV show.
@antonellaleiva3607
@antonellaleiva3607 3 жыл бұрын
Brenda Chenowith is one of my favourite characters in series
@jstephenj
@jstephenj 12 жыл бұрын
Lisa could be overbearing and self righteous, but she was never this malicious or cruel as she is seen here. You're right that it was all internalized dialogue. It was an effective device, and some of the best moments from the series (like this one) were possible because of it.
@keithcerniglia4989
@keithcerniglia4989 6 жыл бұрын
great scene. Lili Taylor was magnificent in this show.
@LorettaConstant
@LorettaConstant Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@andrea.bezdan
@andrea.bezdan 11 жыл бұрын
I fact, when Lisa was alive, she was dead terrified of Brenda. She wouldn't even give her identity away when getting a massage from her, let alone talk to her this way. This is just Brenda's sunconscious talking.
@manneianevski
@manneianevski 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe that once you are dead, you don't get scared like you used to do in your lifetime. What could scare you if you're already dead?
@11Garrett11
@11Garrett11 2 жыл бұрын
Hence the title: talking to myself
@rhiannongoguen7667
@rhiannongoguen7667 8 жыл бұрын
So deep. I'll never forget this show
@11Garrett11
@11Garrett11 5 жыл бұрын
Every divine force aligned to create this show. Pretty sure I’ll never see something this impactful again in this lifetime.
@rhiannonleigh2715
@rhiannonleigh2715 2 жыл бұрын
@@11Garrett11 yes love that ❤
@viewholicsanonymous
@viewholicsanonymous 3 жыл бұрын
There's always this vicious honesty in these discussions characters have with themselves.
@southbeachtalent
@southbeachtalent 12 жыл бұрын
All the dialogue between the living and the dead were a figment of the living one's imagination/ dream on the show. Granted, these conversations are what the living person is perceiving the dead person would really be saying to them in this situation. (given if they had the chance to be completely and openly honest, a luxary living people rarely have a chance to) All of it is self reflective. The reason this show is beyond amazing is because you see that most people have a low opinion of
@jstephenj
@jstephenj 12 жыл бұрын
Arguably the best show ever. An incredible cast guided by the most talented team of writers I have ever seen. And let's not forget that this show was created and sheparded by Alan Ball, the screenwriter of American Beauty. But going back to the writers, not only the most talented, but the most disciplined. Many shows start out strong, but end up overstaying their welcome and end up limping to the finish line (like The Sopranos).
@rhiannongoguen7667
@rhiannongoguen7667 7 жыл бұрын
jstephenj soo true he cut it off prematurely on purpose so it wouldn't burn out but faded away. it was truly a masterpiece I never wanted to end
@Do3ck
@Do3ck 4 жыл бұрын
dont be dissin the Sopranos
@rr7firefly
@rr7firefly 2 жыл бұрын
I watched a few Sopranos episodes. Some were well done. But more than a few times I would have liked to have seen every one of them get killed in a massive explosion. I have always felt a much deeper level of humanity in the SFU characters. Even when they have conflicts they manage to maintain a degree of decency that the Sopranos lacked.
@lisadc4681
@lisadc4681 Жыл бұрын
So true! This Is Us is a great example.. phenomenal series but the finale was so bad it almost ruined the series for me. Six Feet Under will never be matched!!!
@SuperChunk19
@SuperChunk19 Жыл бұрын
@@rr7firefly the sopranos is supposed to be absent if humanity they're fucking mobsters
@DaisyLee1963
@DaisyLee1963 5 жыл бұрын
Some people's internal voices are really sad to listen to.
@southbeachtalent
@southbeachtalent 12 жыл бұрын
themselves and their actions. This is what the show demonstrates from most of these interactions. Occasionally, they can be sweet and introspectively beautiful. This is where the show always shined. Most of your life is difficult to bear, which makes the good moments great.
@hiropon2985
@hiropon2985 Жыл бұрын
this whole thing still lives rent-free in my head
@MsKidgie
@MsKidgie 8 жыл бұрын
i think lisa is my inner voice too - different reasons, but same hurtful, nasty spew. god, i miss this show.
@11Garrett11
@11Garrett11 5 жыл бұрын
But Lisa is not the voice. The voices are your inner critic. Speaking of which, I just read a brilliant article on pete-walker.com on the inner & outer critic. So brilliant. The link to the articles are in the upper left corner of his homepage if you’re interested : )
@maxmarshall7123
@maxmarshall7123 2 жыл бұрын
0:45 always made me laugh. I absolutely love this show!
@skyofthelivingdead
@skyofthelivingdead 2 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo same that’s something I would’ve said.
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 11 ай бұрын
And i would have responded with who you talking to the slut who was sleeping with your sisters husband topped off with please honey move along. But this was all in Brenda's mind vs reality.
@WingStopBoy
@WingStopBoy 12 жыл бұрын
Savage, Lisa tells it like it is though. Brenda is my fav SFU character, Lisa is one of my least favorites although her boss Carol is one of the best parts because Catherine O'Hara makes anything better.
@benjaminlaygoiii2171
@benjaminlaygoiii2171 3 жыл бұрын
My top 5 actors from. Series 1 - 5 David Fisher (Michael C. Hall) Ruth Fisher (Frances Conroy) Aunt Sarah (Patricia Clarkson) Margaret Chenowith (Joana Cassidy) Billy Chenowith (Jeremy Sistio) Honorable mention: Russel (Ben Foster) Unbelievable actors.
@11Garrett11
@11Garrett11 4 ай бұрын
This wasn’t Lisa talking, it’s Brenda’s own inner monster. Like the title says, they just used Lisa to turn the monologue in Brenda’s head into a dialogue so that we could hear it. Brilliant.
@jstephenj
@jstephenj 12 жыл бұрын
She was never as cutting in life as she is here in this fantasy sequence. Her mother would be more suited to this exchange. This kinda reminds me of the catfight that doesn't happen. I remember everyone wanted to see both Brenda and Lisa fight it out in season 3, but Lisa's death sort of got in the way of that. Great acting by the both of them, though.
@STMARTIN009
@STMARTIN009 3 жыл бұрын
This scene is so real it is scary. Poor Nate did not live long enough to eventually divorce Brenda.I am the 70th comment.
@MNJGaGa
@MNJGaGa Жыл бұрын
I respect Brenda very much.
@11Garrett11
@11Garrett11 4 ай бұрын
Why?
@madeh86
@madeh86 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck this was a great brutal scene
@LeaHenning
@LeaHenning 12 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was Lisa's character actually ,I'm under the impression that this is Brenda's interpretation of how Lisa was-she imagines her like that,pulling her down,telling Brenda she's not good enough for Nate and cannot have his baby because she doesn't deserve a happy,functional relationship-she wants it so bad and the fear of loosing it overwhelmes her.This is Brenda talking to herself,analysing herself like her parents did all her life.it's Brenda's jealousy of what Lisa had with Nate
@rhiannongoguen4569
@rhiannongoguen4569 5 жыл бұрын
No you are right that’s exactly what it was . There were never any ghosts in this show just the characters inner thoughts that’s why we fell in love with them soo deeply
@petercehily2687
@petercehily2687 3 жыл бұрын
The character of Brenda and her family members were the most interesting on this show. I wish they would have devoted more time to them. Actually they could have had their own series in my opinion
@annajacob7981
@annajacob7981 3 жыл бұрын
@Peter Cehily I agree. The most interesting... unconventional, whipsmart, and progressive characters on SFU. Perhaps some brilliant writer will develop and write Twelve Feet Above featuring the Chenowith clan.
@rr7firefly
@rr7firefly 2 жыл бұрын
That much dysfunction is an acquired taste. Brenda's relationships with her brother and her mother gave me too much of a look at how terrible people can act. Watching the series on DVD was perfect because I could fast forward through all those scenes. I had plenty to watch without Brenda's backstory.
@petercehily2687
@petercehily2687 2 жыл бұрын
The scene where she slapped her mother in the face was shocking even for this show. Dysfunctional for certain. I just thought they were the most interesting family
@rr7firefly
@rr7firefly 2 жыл бұрын
@@petercehily2687 You are probably more resilient emotionally than I am. My younger brother and my mother used to watch soap operas. From another room I could hear people on the show arguing a lot of the time. That kind of interaction on a continual basis (for "drama" on those shows) was hard for me to bear.
@falica77
@falica77 12 жыл бұрын
Great acting indeed. A cat fight between Brenda and Lisa would have been great. This scene between the 2 during Brenda's wedding is a classic. Just got done watching the box set. One of the great shows in the history of TV. NARM
@MNJGaGa
@MNJGaGa 2 жыл бұрын
Brenda was way more mature than being part of a cat fight
@heavnnnsent
@heavnnnsent 7 ай бұрын
What's narm?
@brendancadogan6235
@brendancadogan6235 Ай бұрын
​@heavnnsent numb arm.
@BexiiLouise
@BexiiLouise 3 ай бұрын
This scene always hurts
@jstephenj
@jstephenj 12 жыл бұрын
The Fisher's "conversations" with Nathaniel were also some of the most poignant, especially David's, considering how his mood could shift from episode to episode. The closing shot of him and his father at the end of season 4 probably captured best the bond he had with his father when he was alive.
@lauratheexplorer6390
@lauratheexplorer6390 4 жыл бұрын
I think Brenda's (& Billy's) parents are Narcissists.
@AdamThoba...
@AdamThoba... 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Laura, sorry, my name is Adam Thoba, I'm from Etobicoke. And I would love to discuss six feet under with you, perhaps we can share ideas, theory's, and what it's. *Nates final dream* needs to be discussed. On reddit ppl are saying many different theories. I am watching season 3 now, (before Lisa disappeared) but I stop at episode 11 on season 5. I cannot watch the "end".
@AdamThoba...
@AdamThoba... 4 жыл бұрын
Also all the subliminal messages. Look at the one in season 3 (whenever Lisa is presumably deceased) the store owners wife Hazamat is killed by blue ice from airplanes. But it all came from "doing a good deed" as in releasing the bird, then the actor in the washroom, then the call
@manneianevski
@manneianevski 2 жыл бұрын
They were. They didn't get emotionally attached to their kids and much saw them as special high potential kids, sending them to specialists and stuff where all they needed were loving parents. Brenda and Billy could only get that from each other and escaped reality through stories such as the Nathalie's book. Brenda wouldn't have been that complexed if she would have grown up in a healthy family relationship, so would have Billy.
@aaronlanier203
@aaronlanier203 10 жыл бұрын
There are times when I genuinely feel the ghosts of characters are on the show. This is not one of those moments. Lisa would never speak to anyone this way. She was too kind of a person, despite the shit she did.
@suncore598
@suncore598 10 жыл бұрын
This is Brenda's perception of Lisa fueled by her own personal doubts.
@AcademyAwardsPerson
@AcademyAwardsPerson 10 жыл бұрын
Uh, really? Remember the homosexual who dies in the first season and 'taunts' David? The ghosts aren't supposed to be a true representation of the actual people. It's just one of the many surrealistic elements of the show.
@maroanouadi9782
@maroanouadi9782 6 жыл бұрын
AcademyAwardsPerson At that moment David still with many doubts about his sexuality.
@vodkatonyq
@vodkatonyq 3 жыл бұрын
The killed gay guy is a representation of David's self-hatred.
@sheryarahmed6331
@sheryarahmed6331 2 ай бұрын
my favorite episode because of this scene, this whole episode was brootal
@sheryarahmed6331
@sheryarahmed6331 2 ай бұрын
1:42 "that was purely a spiritual thing" lmfao brenda's subconscious is hilarious
@loltbxx
@loltbxx 12 жыл бұрын
The Sopranos did NOT limp to the finish line. What a preposterous comment.
@falica77
@falica77 12 жыл бұрын
I think it's referred to as projected subconscious.
@jimst.george669
@jimst.george669 5 ай бұрын
great scene!
@oliviabell9691
@oliviabell9691 3 жыл бұрын
Ghosty insecurities sure do get feisty, don't they😄
@mariafernandafonzalida4008
@mariafernandafonzalida4008 5 ай бұрын
Amo el personaje Brenda.
@victorkennel2974
@victorkennel2974 3 жыл бұрын
2:07-2:24 Some true shit
@bradmedicus
@bradmedicus 9 жыл бұрын
RIVITING scene.
@televichile
@televichile 5 ай бұрын
Brenda es y será siempre el verdadero amor de Nathan. A pesar que era una mujerzuela.❤
@dmreeoogdaq
@dmreeoogdaq 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes that inner voice telling us hateful & cruel things about ourselves is right.
@EM-xj8hy
@EM-xj8hy Жыл бұрын
lol nah
@11Garrett11
@11Garrett11 4 ай бұрын
The critical voice in our head is just re-creating critical voices from our childhood. Whether we’re mean or kind in the way we speak to ourselves. the message is the same: we’re trying to turn our attention towards our values and our needs. Studying and practicing Nonviolent Communication has taught me this so now I simply translate mean thoughts into kind ones because the message is the same🙌🏼
@emmbee6552
@emmbee6552 6 жыл бұрын
BRENDA FOR PREZ
@AdamThoba...
@AdamThoba... 4 жыл бұрын
Also known as : tulsi gabbard (that ugly native soon to be shot woman)
@TracyWiu
@TracyWiu 10 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me what episode this was from? or what season?
@MrJuly1990ish
@MrJuly1990ish 10 жыл бұрын
It's the first episode from season 5.
@thekingadrock5031
@thekingadrock5031 4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone help me figure out where they are? what venue?
@armargo
@armargo 3 жыл бұрын
a lot of the out door scenes were sets so it's possible this place doesn't even exist
@bg4928
@bg4928 10 ай бұрын
An entire cliff edge and ocean?
@jstephenj
@jstephenj 12 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you just keep telling yourself that. Those last 3 seasons were spectacular. Weren't they? David Chase reportedly spent 2 years writing that steamer of an ending. The entire episode leading up to the closing scene was nothing to rave over either. A ho hum final episode preceded by a craptacular final season. Hey, you want to convince yourself that the later seasons of the Sopranos were mindblowingly awesome, have at it. I'm not drinking the kool-aid.
@loltbxx
@loltbxx 11 жыл бұрын
ok
@gustavoreyes6588
@gustavoreyes6588 2 жыл бұрын
Las 2 aman a nate pero nate deja a Brenda por qué es muy perra ,en cambio lisa era todo lo contrario aunque un poco contraladora lisa amaba y respetaba a nate cosa que Brenda no hacía pero en medio de su vacío Brenda le dolió perder a nate
@jstephenj
@jstephenj 11 жыл бұрын
Seriously, aside from the closing scene and Phil Leotardo's clipping, what other parts of that episode stand out to you as being remarkable? The meat of that final episode was the closing moments, which was designed to create tension for the viewers. Fair enough, but it just came across as crass and gimmicky. Can you really say that the final episode comes anywhere close to any of the episodes in the first 2 or 3 seasons?
@ismaelramirez3447
@ismaelramirez3447 2 жыл бұрын
:((
@falica77
@falica77 12 жыл бұрын
Great scene. Lisa could be such a bitch, as demonstrated here. Brenda was one of my favorite characters.
@leighg6740
@leighg6740 6 жыл бұрын
falica77 this isn’t Lisa it’s Brenda’s insecurities about living in her shadow. It’s in her head.
@grantwilliams2650
@grantwilliams2650 Ай бұрын
Nigga that ain’t Lisa lmao, that’s her imagination
@jennifersheen5919
@jennifersheen5919 2 жыл бұрын
I thought they were friends. Brenda gave Lisa a spa massage and they spoke about how our bodies never forget anything. Friends or frienemies?
@wowwow75
@wowwow75 2 жыл бұрын
After the spa interaction, they saw each other at the art show, and seemed to have worked things out. Also, her and Nate came to some kind of understanding too I thought... like we're together but we're not going to fight and try so hard.
@jstephenj
@jstephenj 11 жыл бұрын
While never a passionate fan of the Sopranos myself, I do feel that its most ardent fans deserved a better ending than they got -- especially after devoting 8 loyal years through thick and thin, having to endure as much as 18 month sabbaticals in between several of their later seasons. David Chase spend 2 years coming up with the shit taco of an ending and expects the audience to eat it up as if it were high art. Sorry man, not biting.
@natalie8212
@natalie8212 5 жыл бұрын
Can't stand the actress who played Lisa. In anything I've ever seen her in. She just has this terrible face/voice combo that makes my skin crawl.
@Lightner445555555555
@Lightner445555555555 4 жыл бұрын
Lili Taylor is a fabulous actress and person!!
@pretendamnesia
@pretendamnesia 4 жыл бұрын
I cant stand the actress either 🤢
@natalie8212
@natalie8212 4 жыл бұрын
@@pretendamnesia THANK YOU! I just don't like her. Sorry to her fans or whatever. Ough , hated her in Pecker too. Same kind of character.
@pretendamnesia
@pretendamnesia 4 жыл бұрын
Whats funny is ive seen her in other stuff and she never gets the guy lol shes always the bridesmaid never the bride or always dumped or on the rebound. Still.... Lisa was better than... Maggie who was ten times worse as she was a major hypocrite.
@sergeychalkov4
@sergeychalkov4 4 жыл бұрын
It means at least in case of SFU the casting was perfect. Every time I see Lisa I just go like fuck she's here again! Unpleasant character.
@chi5860
@chi5860 7 ай бұрын
"Every time you try to have a nice, normal life, you fuck it up." - I would like to be Nate, but I am Brenda. 🙄
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