Mario has a brother. But why not give Sonic a sister?

I can’t believe from Sonic’s inception,they wanted sonic to be with a human girl,but they couldn’t do that,so they did it on two other ocasions.

Tiara was basically Princess Sally Acorn. Sonic got a sister named Sonia. Sonic's band later reappeared as Mina Mongoose's band.

Infinite Bits mentioned a scrapped sister, but forget one already exists: Sonia! Even if she's from a TV show, it's the concept that counts.

So in summary, the Sonic lore could have been WAYYYY weirder. It's just fate that lead us to the right direction

One of the possible characters to appear in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 on the Genesis was a Turtle named Boomer, but was rejected in favor of Tails being introduced.

Dang I can’t believe Madonna was almost a sonic character

Fun Fact: Janken means rock paper scissor in japanese

The creation of Madonna apparently had a significant impact on the creation of the Sonic franchise. It’s obvious that she was made to cash in on the success of Jessica Rabbit (a human woman in a relationship with a cartoony anthro animal), but SEGA of America didn’t see the appeal and requested that she’d be removed. This apparently upset the Japanese developers so much that they might’ve tried reviving the idea of a human female love interest with characters like Sara in the OVA and Princess Elise with Sonic ‘06. Though interestingly enough, Madonna did actually appear in an official piece of Sonic media. In the Archie Sonic reboot continuity, she was featured as an agent of G.U.N. interrogating Dr. Snively’s past collaborations with Dr. Eggman - acting as sort of a substitute for Topaz from “Sonic X”. She was also given the surname of ‘Garnet’, which is a deep-cut nod to an early Japanese origin story for the character, wherein Sonic was the deceased spirit of a Cold War fighter pilot who fathered a girl named ‘Garnet’.

Of all you mentioned the scrapping of Sonic's sister still pains me to this day. Sega could have just included her in a mainline game or just make her have her own game Sonic wise like shadow the hedgehog. I was really digging that blue Sonia so much i decided to make it her colour since it was canon for a very short time

The Sonic sister concept would've been cool to see in the comics or something. Coulda been a Mario Bros 2 kind of situation. Where the charcters from a ripped off game would become staples to the main series. But because of Popful Mail fans, we never got it. I'm surprised that there were even enough fans to pressure Sega enough to cancel the game.

"Arachnid version of the spider enemy." Ah yes. I can't wait for a Hedgehog version of Sonic. Or a mad doctor version of Eggman.

I kinda would like if these characters were in something because it could still be cool

I find it more fascinating that Eggman was actually originally supposed to be the protagonist of an earlier version of the game until they came up with Needle Mouse (later renamed Sonic the Hedgehog) and they used his original concept art to turn him into the villain.

The Metal Shadow may have been ditched because he bares a passing resemblance to Metal Scourge, and SEGA seems touchy about doing anything with those specific characters.

Be cool if Sega finished and released a modern Sonic Extreme. And Tiara for another love interest with ATTITUDE?! So, Amy was only a place holder! Plus, Tiara and Sister Sonic give me Freedom Planet vibes. And if I remember right, wasn't there some early concept art depicting Sonic looking more vicious with fangs?

sonic's sister would of spawned so much r34

Wouldn't Terios still technically just be Shadow? Like, an early version with a different name, but still effectively HIM. Being an early cut wouldn't necessarily make him an entirely different thing, especially considering he changed very little in both function and design.

I did not know that Eggman has been having a bee costume.

Metal Sonic was also set to appear in Xtreme, and if Tiara was a scrapped character, then what happened to Amy? Was Amy originally going to be a one-off character only in one game?

I wouldn’t mind Sonic having a sister (maybe not the one in Sonic underground). It would be funny to see Amy think that Sonic was “cheating” on her until she realises the truth…

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I like these prototype characters

I get the complaints about the Popful Mail reskin but I'm 100% sure the Sonic version would have sold vastly better. Gotta give it to Sega, it takes balls to sacrifice profits for he happiness of a rather small group of Popful fans.

I don't know if i'm losing my mind, but was the Beetle not in Frontiers? I could have sworn I've fought it before.

"Sonic was going to have a sister." Rule 34: Peace was never an option.

Sega Didn't want to include these characters into Sonic

Sega rejected anything that could have put the franchise in a better situation than they are in now.

Hey, I want that Sonic sister artwork from the thumbnail !

Sega Court needs to reply to this!

(6:47)Also before 06, we had Sara, the president's daughter that promised to give Sonic a kiss.

Imagine an alternate universe where in this video we get freaking Tails & Knuckles Tails: "This dude was supposed to be over Ray in Sonic The Hedgehog 5" Knuckles: "This dude was supposed to appear on Mighty Chaotix 2"

Apparently these unused Sonic Frontiers bosses were the ones being added to the Phase 3 update

Also fun fact: Janken is the name for rock paper scissors in Japan, so it makes sense for Egg Janken to have rock paper scissors as the fight! Like Alex Kidd in Miracle World, Janken is the antagonist and to fight, you play rock paper scissors

Huh. So that’s how Sonic OC’s we’re influenced. Better take notes, Deviantart!

Thanks for showing this dude😊

Sonic's sister is SYPPOSED to be Sonia from Sonic Underground!

Listen if they want to do a Sonia game (Sonic Sister from Underground) I'm down it needs a revival.

Fascinating, I had really never heard of Zip or that confusing "Sister Sonic" stuff. Very interesting, to say the least! Awesome video!

Metal Shadow may not exist, although he has 5 Epic Robot Counterparts in the form of 2P Shadow Androids in addition to the normal mass produced Shadow Androids in Shadow's Game. The Archie Comics created Ixis Naugus based on the background villain of that concept art for Sonic 1.

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A Female character who was not a Relative or a Love interest and could match Sonic in terms of Speed & Personality would have been a decent idea for a new Rival, maybe some day Sega could come up with such a character, maybe even recycle something from old concept art, there certainly is no shortage of That.

Metal shadow would look really sick ngl

She did a few years later in sonic underground with sonia

It'd be really cool and funni if vectors backstory was just one huge forth wall break and sonic had no memory of this and vector was a villain planing to betray the chaotics and when sonic confronts him after the betrayal this is how the conversation would play out: Sonic: vector... Why?! Vector: why? You wanna know why?! I'll tell you why! *Flashback* Vector (now): I was a young lad... Playing the drums getting ready to be a musician... Vector (past): *playing the drums and singing to the beat of the drums* Sonic (past): alright I think we're ready! Let's get this party started! Vector (now): we were just about to leave to go to the concert... But then... Sega (past): hey uh so about the concert.. Vector (past): yeah? Sega (past): well uh... We've decided that we're just gonna cancel the concert... Vector (past): WHAT?! Sega (past): yeah we decided to make a different storyline... Vector (past): b- but I was gonna make it big! I was gonna be a star! Sega (past): I mean you'd still be a star... Vector (past): really?! Sega (past): yeah! *Pause* uh the thing is... Vector (past): yeah? Sega (past): uhh...were gonna have to... uhhh Vector (past): yeah? Sega (past): u-uh.. get rid of these guys and wipe sonics memory of this... Vector (past): WHAT?! Sega coworkers (past): *barges in and kills all of vectors friends* Sonic (past): oh shit vector RUN! Vector (past): shoot! What about you sonic?! Sonic (past): I'll buy you some time RUN! Vector (past): *starts running and looks at sonic* Sonic (past): goodbye vector... Vector (past): SONIC!!! *starts running towards him* Sega coworkers (past): *gets in front of vector ready to wipe his memory and eliminate him* Sega (past): no... Let him go.. Sega coworkers: what?! Sega (past): he's gonna be in a game anyway so let him live... Sega coworkers: what about his memory?! Sega (past): it won't matter besides we still need him to have a backstory... *End of flashback* Vector (now): and that's how I ended up here... Sonic (now): ohhhh so that's why I can't remember you... But hey at least we're back together... Vector: yeah but what's the point...? Everyone else got eliminated... How are we gonna get through this?! We had so many good memories together... And now there gone... *Sobs* it should've been me that got eliminated! *Sob* why?! Why us?! Espio: *looks at him with sympathy* Vector: this is all my fault... Charmy: *hic* that's... That's so sad... *Sobs while flying up to vector and giving him a hug* IM SO SORRY VECTOR! Neo metal: ahem! Did you forget about me sonic? Sonic: huh? Neo metal: if you guys are done whining about the past then fight me! Or do I have to tell Sega about this so that they'll wipe his memory again like I did last time? Vector: *realizes* wait a minute! So your the one that told them to cancel the game! Neo metal: that's right! Right before the concert you guys were getting ready for I whent into Sega headquarters and told them that no one would be interested in a game where sonic was in a rock band so they went in and wiped his memory of you and eliminated your little friends! Vector: you bastard! Neo metal: mwahahahaha! Vector: YOU'LL PAY FOR THIS! Eggman: uh... What the actual fuck is happening? Neo metal: you fools! Without the chaos emeralds there's NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!!! Vector: oh yeah?! *Pulls out a chaos emerald* Neo metal: N-NANI?! Teams dark, rose, and sonic: *each pull out a chaos emerald* Neo metal: WHAT?! NO! IMPOSSIBLE! HOW DID YOU GET ALL THE SEVEN CHAOS EMERALDS?! Sonic: don't underestimate me and my friends! Vector: yeah: we're gonna beat you once and for all! Sonic: let's show him what we're made of! And then the cutscene ends and all of the characters go and fight neo metal like normal and then the second phase happens and we fight metal overlord but instead of just team sonic fighting him it's them along with vector and he even goes super and then afterwards the cutscene just plays out like normally but team chaotics gives vector another chance

7:19 egg janken is basically an flying gapsule (an mini boss in sonic 3)

Janken is Japan's version of Rock-Paper-Scissors. I would have been interested in Sonic having a relative. I guess we're sticking with Tails.

Also the Dragon in sky chase act 2 was in the dreamcast version

Don't let rule 34 artists discover Sonic Sister 💀

7:20 It means “Egg Rock-Paper-Scissors” 🧑🏻‍🏫

Can you do Sonic Characters that SEGA barely uses or appears less in the games (not counting spinoffs)

Hmm. What if Sega or IDW Comics used Terios as like an antagonist evil clone of Sonic, similar to Scourge the Anti-Hedgehog from the Sonic Archie Comics? Think about it: during one of their battles, Dr. Eggman gets hold of one sliver of Sonic's quills. Using that one quill and the technology that made Shadow, Dr. Eggman creates a powerful hedgehog clone that has both Sonic's speed and his own wicked intellect. And, to ensure that the clone doesn't turn against him, Eggman injects the clone with nanobots which will zap the clone's nervous system if it dares to disobey or betray him. At first it looks like Sonic has finally met his match. But during the final battle on Eggman's flying fortress, with the combined strength of him and his friends, Sonic is able to deliver a powerful electric shock to the clone and send it falling unconscious into the ocean below. Sonic and the other celebrate, glad to have finally defeated Terios once and for all...or did they?

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Fun fact: Sonic’s sister was cut in all of the Sonic games and was a part time character for the game so she had a chance of being part of the Sonic games but cut for a unknown reason

Metal Shadow... Now that's a fight of the ages...

This Madonna character looks a lot like Pauline did in Donkey Kong.

Sonic has a sister named Sonia and a brother named Manic in an old tv show, "Sonic Underground".

1:10 happy rock

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Exclamation mark 😂 nice Dave man

I feel like sega should add an arctic fox character.

Nice video

Shadows Role in SA2 was intended for Terios, but Sonic Team wanted a Character with an "S" on his Name.

Dr. Beeman would've be very strange to see in a Sonic game

Sonic already has a sister and her name is sonia Edit: sonic also has a brother named manic

0:16 Shadow Androids. 1:03 we kinda already have Mean Bean Machine for stuff like that. 1:25 Sally Acorn. 2:13 Buck Bumble? 3:03 That thing is basically Fang/Nack (idk spelling) 3:56 At this point Sega should acknowledge Terios. 4:19 Honestly same. 4:51 adorable. 5:13 Chaotix? 5:56 Basiccaly a fever dream. 6:36 wait a damn minute, did I call that? 6:48 O shit. 6:55 Madonna? 7:02 Wha?? 7:38 Sonia?

Wow! I want to see Robotnik dressed like a bee in an official game now 😂

ok so the so called "BETTLE" in sonic frontiers was never scrapped, it was changed, into the Catapillar in the end, and still acts the same in the game.

hand guy is the most horrifying thing i ever seen today.

the only difference between terios and shadow is the name and the design other than that they're the same character so shadow is just terios with a different design and name

07:17 Jan Ken (or something similar) is the Japanese version of Rock, Paper, Scissors.

8:35 does this man not know sonic underground exists 😂

The way he pronounces Tiara’s last name hurts so much. It’s BoobOWski not boobwaski. But I digress, I enjoyed the video, I already knew some of these scrapped characters but I didn’t know about Metal Shadow and a few other characters.

great video!

7:18 Janken comes from Jan-Ken-Pon

4 playable characters in Sonic Xtreme? Weren't Amy's animations leaked a few years back, revealing she too was meant to be playable?

That metal Shadow art goes hard

We’ll Sonic does have a brother named Manic and a Sister named Sonia.I wished Metal Shadow would be a thing like why did they scrap him?

Still to this day, Sonic doesn't have a single biological family member. Within the series that detail alone isn't really all that special, most of the characters actually don't. Cream has a mother and Eggman has a late grandfather and cousin, but other than that there's not really anything. When you combine this tidbit with the fact that Sonic is capable of insane feats such as defeating literal ancient dieties and other things that should be literally impossible, still doesn't have any kind of canon backstory, and is one of the few characters to seemingly not have a home, Sonic quickly becomes one of the single most mysterious characters in his own franchise. He was still relatively unknown within his world by the time of Sonic Adventure, but was a world renowned hero by the time of Adventure 2, so it's evident that he hadn't been at it for long by the first Adventure game, as though he literally popped into existence out of nowhere in Sonic 1 or something.

5:03 Not to mention that the other 3 characters were in the Archie Comics in another band with a different lead singer

i think that eggman in a bee costume is supposed to be 'eggman nega(tive)', eggman's nephew, seen in the Mario and Sonic at the Olympic games franchise.

The title: Sonic Underground:

Bruh with Sonic’s sister we could’ve gotten a Sonic underground

Infinite bits out of context: who looks like the villain here? exactly the hand

The hand really looks like a bad guy 13 looks like the main villain

Sonic Underground was the closest thing we can imagine of a family. He also had an uncle named Chuck.

I remember Tiana as Hannah from the Sonic Shadow and Silver show.

7:17 Actually "Janken" just means Roshambo (or Rock, Paper, Sissors) in Japanese.

Metal shadow lately going to be android shadow in the 2005 shadow the hedgehog game

Dont mind this wild sonque coming in to point out the art from "tails and sonic pals"

So instead of sadonic (shadow x sonic) there was going to be teronci(terios x sonic)

Sonic Frontiers also added back part of those canned bosses

Sonic's sister?! :O

Okay well with Terios.... that's not a separate character from Shadow. That's just an earlier version of Shadow. And idk what "but he looks even more like Sonic this time" is supposed to mean. In the final design, he literally looks like Sonic's model but recolored and with Super Sonic's hair. Super Sonic also being a recolor of Sonic, it makes the most sense he just looks like Sonic in another form. But Terios' concept art, which I don't think is directly exclusive to the name Terios (as the name could still be applied to Shadow's final design and Shadow's name can still be tied to the concept design.) is still a portrayal of someone clearly bad in a style that I would never mistake him for Sonic. He either looks like a very different hedgehog or like.... a demon. lol So his final design, to me, not only makes more sense for people to confuse for Sonic, and on top of that fans and casuals also confused the two for a while in real life, but also if they changed the design to be LESS identical to Sonic then they would clearly reflect it in the storytelling. Idk. The way it's explained in this video sounds more like what I'm used to hearing fans spread around, more like it was only something fans decided and everyone just ran with it.

Cool video

In Sister Sonic almost made Sega pull a Super Mario Bros. 2/ Super Mario USA (hopefully they wouldn't have actually use the enemies in newer games like nintendo did and re-use a useless power-up)

In an alternate universe terrios happened instead

Janken just means the game of rock paper scissors in Japanese. When you throw your hand down as rock, paper, or scissors you chant "janken PON!" Famously the bosses in Alex Kidd played janken with you. Since Sonic Mania is just lousy with Sega lore deep cuts, this is probably what Egg Janken was a reference to.

I noticed the unused Sonic Frontiers bosses were in the Final Frontiers DLC update.

For those who don’t know this isn’t the first time sonic has said he has a sister in the original sonic Bible. It says that sonic has five sisters. Plus sonics other sister in the manga.