Loko Pérez: Tony Jay is dead. Raziel's VA was like sixty. Is he even alive?

Michael Bell is still around hes 79 now.

Both sound bad

@@404ServerError WRONG

@@RequiemPoete there can be replacements or even VAs of the same tier and quality (even tho purists may hate them for being original in their own way)

I actually ended up ripping the audio files from my PS2 version and played through them all.

It's not the voice. You don't even know what you love from it. It happens to everyone. This is basically the Story of your Spirit, a very hidden divine Spark from the true Unknown-God, forcefully-hidden and lying inside you, asking you to stop being distracted from real and existencial purpose. You listening that story gives some fresh air to It, after ages and ages of forced sleep and silence enclosed inside your material, sequential bodies.

@@Braxton1981 Get help, dude.

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I have heard some theories about that. Like in Defiance the Ariel that is encountered when the Reaver is purified is the one from the Future and not the one from the Past, which lines up given Ariel can't exist in the Future if her past self was the one that was sacrificed to purify the Reaver. It wouldn't be the first time a being from the future was Drawn to the past, like Turel who also showed up in Defiance which I think was to explain his absence beyond being cut content in Soul Reaver. But also to show this kind of thing has precedence.

It makes me feel really bad for Nupraptor, And even if I have to destroy him when it gets a remake with an archived script and they’ll add the cut content that was removed from the original known as every elemental glyph and Reaver enhancement, I’ll let his death be without suffering for his girlfriend Ariel.

+KalvinEllis at this point he is starting to get the pieces of his own and kain's history regarding the pillars and knowing how his time ended up, he started to put it together:kain would have on interest of being an emperor of a doomed empire so maybe he isnt at fault for the situation he sees here.

He has a point. Apart from Kain as not being the sole cause of the Pillars' destruction, the Vampires were the Pillars' architects, which probably means that only they could restore them, and killing Kain, the last living vampire, wouldn't have the same effect.

At the time when Kain's human life ended, vampires were considered by humans nothing more than wicked, parasitic monsters that deserved complete eradication. This belief was encouraged by the Elder God through his most loyal human servant, Moebius the Time-Streamer. Moebius' former ally Mortanius later realized that Nosgoth's only hope lay in the vampires, leading him to resurrect Kain as a vampire in order to eventually restore true balance and order to Nosgoth, even if he must go against the human race to do so.

I loved that too, Raziel defends Kain to everyone but Kain. When he's face to face with Kain, he talks shit. lol I love it.

@@rogerleung160 Exactly, and the fact too he realized Kain was the Scion of Balance the legends of vampires spoke of, and the only one who could hold the Hylden back. I imagine for Ariel that besides her own desire for release, her wanting Kain to die was also prejudice due to his being a vampire, and how even IF he did accept the sacrifice, it would mean the Hylden would eventually be freed and turn Nosgoth into more of a wasteland as Raziel pointed out and having fully had their revenge against the vampires for having banished them to the demon realm after the war, before they cursed them. The Elder God just tried to use EVERYONE to his own means to feed himself due to his role as a Demiurge, and he and Moebius failed to think about how the Hylden would just disrupt the Elder God's plans for the Wheel of Fate, and how Kain as the Scion of Balance would be a greater threat if he realized his destiny. And the Hylden used everyone else to their own ends, even the Elder God.

He just likes to roast everyone throughout the series.

I know, I was surprised to learn this myself.

fuck you

just goes to show that Mrs Gunn has always gravitated towards quality material, i never understood how people could hate here for playing Skyler White, it was just a role people she was the intelligent housewife with woman intuition ... that was it ... she wasn't there to sabotage Walters raise to power ... ahh people can be so simple minded same thing with Lena Headey, Cersei from GoT if people actually hate the real life actress that means she did a great fucking job, that she's a great actor .... you moronic morons

What the FUCK?!

HOLY SH*T I FOUND THIS RIGHT NOW, HOLY SH*T HOLY SH*T

Yeah, exactly. Everything he said was perfectly fair and true, and he had every right to say it and it was undoubtedly somewhat satisfying to voice it, but at the end of the day, even after the living hell he's endured, Raziel is not a sadistic malevolent soul, and delights not in inflicting pain on the (relatively) innocent, especially on a fellow purgatorial prisoner.

agreed to both comments 👍🏾👍🏾

I always loved that moment as a teenager...Since even Kain can't follow her when she hides in Spectral, Raz doing just that is well funny :)

Originally, Ariel was going to sacrifice herself to empower the wraith blade in the final fight against kain. But they ran out of time and had to settle with kain and raziel going through the portal and meeting Moebius. But I do like where we went.

Yeah I just confirmed that Anna Gunn, who was on Breaking Bad, was a voice actor in my favorite game franchise of all time -- Legacy of Kain. Strange....I did not watch breaking bad till 2013 though.

Rafael Cardoso I FUCKED NUPRAPTOR

I once thought that if LoK would get a movie, Anna Gunn should better be the live-action Ariel lol. Tbf, she's a good actress, and she does look the part. As for Nupraptor, how about...Bryan Cranston? :D

She’s the reason why Skyler White is my favorite character in Breaking Bad.

Ariel wasn't pure _enough_ or she could've seen the true evil mastermind and probably purified Kain by herself. Kain absorbed the Wraith Blade, which had all past Balance Guardians and the orig. vampire Guardians (among others). He must be one powerful-af Guardian wielding one powerful-af sword at the end of Defiance. He might've doomed vampirekind to extinction long before his birth: the prophesized Scion of Balance was too much of a threat to said mastermind to be ignored.

You make is sound like Kain and Ariel should husband and wife. While Raziel is their marriage counselor

@@jimhuffman9434 Honestly, that´s kinda the point if memory serves

@M Wait, you worked on the series?

@M That's so cool, if I may ask, how would the series be most likely concluded?

Chris I love how barring Soul Reaver 1, every time Raziel interacts with Ariel he basically rubs it in her face she’s SOL and stuck at the pillars forever.

Raziel's lucky Ariel can't smack him

Doesn't help her, that every time they meet, it happens further and further in the past. From timeline's point of view, they first meet in Defiance around the Blood Omen 1 time. Then they meet 150 years later, and then they meet at least centuries later in Soul Reaver 1. Raziel also joins with Ariel's spirit and other Balance Guardians at Spirit Forge in Defiance, so the whole thing gets really confusing.

@@soulreaverable I don't think he's rubbing it in her face, he's just pointing out that she's full of shit. In reality I think he really pities her.

@dorothydreams oftornadoes Let me restate: Raziel's lucky Ariel didn't smack him for what he said

Maybe the 500 years imprisonment with the Elder God after Soul Reaver 2 could have affected him?

@@TA-by9wv Or it could be that he discovered his fate was to be sealed in the reaver and found it disturbing.

@@Dionysus-207 also for majority of Defiance he was scared shitless of his unavoidable fate - an eternity inside the Reaver blade. It’s only logical he would be acting a bit irrational.

@@Dionysus-207 well who wouldn't being trapped as a soul who being said in the series has been trapped there for eons on eons +time travel = more eons on one sword

@@andreykozlyk On top of that he was suffering from Hylden influence.

Liberals

Spare me the sanctimonious bullshit. They're all just as capable of good as they are evil. Imagine living as a human in this world where there are unholy creatures that view themselves as "Dark Gods" and your life as ultimately forfeit so that they can play a game of chess that spans a millennia. You pretend the Seraphan are somehow "more evil" than Kain, Raziel, and Vorador. Why? Because they were led by the nose in the exact same way Janos and Raziel were? Why is Seraphan Raziel a monster for ripping out Janos' heart but Wraith Raziel is "misunderstood" for doing the exact same thing to Kain?

the humans are the real monsters trope is pretty common honestly

And Defieance, is about redemption! xD

Hey now, isn't that a little unjust?? Both games are amazing in their own right, I imagine that if the combat for this game was a little more polished, it would have been a greater masterpiece over all.

People play games to play them, not watch a movie.

+fatih y Yep, I knew who Anna Gunn was long before she showed up on Breaking Bad. A lot of people hear Skyler White when they see Ariel, while I always heard Ariel when I saw Skyler. :)

I’m so glad that Skyler White is my favorite character thanks to Anna Gunn when she voiced Ariel in four of the Legacy of Kain games.

@@Unknown_User174 well I wouldn't say I liked Skylar as a character personally, but yeah, I love Anna Gunn as an actress.

@@jamesreed2366 I understand but Anna Gunn is amazing.

@@Unknown_User174 agreed.

when she claims to be "uncorrupted" this is actually false- she was just as tainted as the other guardians even beyond Death. making her just as blind ot the Elder god as the rest

Alex Benfield itso nneet game

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*snicker* I always wondered why vampires only have 3 fingers in the Legacy of Kain series

JuggaloJohn :) did they now?

Actually he's the only one that can cause paradoxes, as far as I understood. Him consuming her and dissipating her spirit in Kain purified Kain and could change the flow of history to a huge extent, arming Kain with a weapon that could slay the elder god.

@@Crowsinger Wrong. Raziel cannot create paradoxes on his own. The Reaver blade endowed with his own soul from another time is also required.

@@StygianWolf did I ever write that he could do it without the wraith blade?

@@Crowsinger You specifically commented "he's the only one that can cause paradoxes." That doesn't leave much else room for interpretation.

@@StygianWolf there's no need to argue with your interpretation skills about what was the point I wanted to make.

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You are correct. The meeting with Ariel in Defiance is the first time Raziel got that far. He was destined to be trapped in the Reaver during Soul Reaver 2's ending but Kain altered history by stopping it.

That happened later, in Defiance

she wasnt immune ot the corruption, but she had no physical form when it happened if she was truly pure at that point she would be able ot perceive the elder God and the true nature of the wheels of ate and the pillars

I'd tell you, but you're 3 years early! ;) Fraid there's no new content for you; just Legacy of Kain. Always cool to hear other folks still enjoy the games, though. Maybe someday we'll get remasters, or something, at least.

😆 No Matt Jones never did acting until 2002 LOL. However after Matt played as Badger in Breaking Bad, He voiced Wedge in the Final Fantasy 7 Remake. Michael Bell who voiced Drew Pickles and Chaz finster in the original Rugrats series voiced Raziel in three of the Legacy of Kain games.😊

he knows what the world becomes since he originally came from the same timeline at least 1500 years after the collapse of the pillars, and the world he was in was jsut as much of a shthole.

@@Teixas666 Right... And it doesn't sound like she's at the threshold of escaping. So...

@@JulioVonGhoulio The threshold referred by Raziel means that Ariel's imprisonment at the pillars has only just begun. She's destined to stay there for much much longer.

@@EzioYuio I took that as she's at the threshold on the way out, but he meant she's at the threshold on the way in. That makes more sense. But his soft tone at the end led me to believe he was trying to leave her with something a bit more comforting after he basically verbally attacked her. Thanks.

It's probably justified. He's getting jerked around by more or less everyone he meets, all of whom have some agenda they're trying to force him onto the path of, so why wouldn't Ariel, too, from his perspective?

are you alive? if you are, tell me how did you pass your time being alone in a room... with no one but you...

Kain had ot infuse a portion of his own soul to raise offspring, it was the only way he figured he could sire other Vampires issue was, he as the balance guardian was still corrupted by Nuprator, and that corruptino carried over ot his offspring(if raziel wasnt cast into the abyss to " die", good chance he woudl also end up like his bretheren)

He wasnt wrong tho The dilemma kain had ot face was rigged, And Ariel did not know this while leading him along The pillars would go down regardless of what kain did, and the lore implies that it would be even worse if he did kill himself.