Star Wars in 2023 is nothing to celebrate

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Working Jellyfish

Working Jellyfish

Жыл бұрын

Following the announcements from Star Wars Celebration 2023, are you optimistic for the future or not?
Some good, some bad and some very ugly ...
Join me as I react and share my thoughts on Star Wars Celebration 2023.

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@petrairene
@petrairene 6 ай бұрын
Male filmakers are calling because they want to make a Star Wars movie while no women apply for the job. Maybe that's because the genre has predominantly male fans? Why are women supposed to be the central thing in scifi? Are they these days making male centric romantic comedies? And if yes, does anyone expect something like this to be a success?
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish 6 ай бұрын
It was a strange gatekeeping decision, for sure. If talented filmmakers wanted access to Star Wars, and you were knocking them back because of their sex, is that not (by definition) sexism?
@petrairene
@petrairene 6 ай бұрын
@@workingjellyfish It is sexism, if they reject qualified male candidates to give the job to an unqualified female. What also puzzles me, all these "strong female" characters win their conflicts with physical fighting. What is that supposed to advertise for the female viewership they target. Do they want to encourage women to start training in martial arts or enlist in the military? Do they want to encourage women to solve their relationship conflicts with male partners using force? I really question what the message of these movies is supposed to be.
@HossHamster
@HossHamster Жыл бұрын
Aww man that Rey Skywalker bit. EVERYONE walked out of the theatre after that.
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish Жыл бұрын
It was well timed in that sense.
@PhazonEnder
@PhazonEnder 10 ай бұрын
Well, it was the end of the movie after all.
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish 10 ай бұрын
@@PhazonEnder That's the joke.
@magustobias8827
@magustobias8827 6 ай бұрын
Hey there Working Jellyfish. Just randomly was recommended one of your SW videos recently and have been bingeing them the past say or so. I love your takes and your style of humor. I'm glad to hear someone else have this opinion with SW, specifically the whole Ahsoka being a Luke-replacement for the seemingly up and coming Heir to the Empire rehash. Once I saw how Ahsoka (the series) was focusing so much on her, Sabine, Hera, and Ezra, as well as adding live action Thrawn to the center, and the obvious callout line of the book title, I knew that's what Filoni was planning. I will admit, I did at one point think that Filoni and Favreau could be th saviors of SW under Disney. (Full disclosure, I actually hate Clone Wars, I think Ahsoka as a concept is detrimental to Anakin's character arc, and more but I'll digress.) I surprisingly really liked Rebels, mostly, but have serious issues with it, and despite disliking the very idea of Ahsoka, I will be one of the first to stand up and say that she has one of the best character developments of any New Canon character. But more to the point, I realized that Filoni has... well, to be blunt, he's too obsessed with his own creations; he doesn't want to make Heir to the Empire, he wants to make Heir to the Empire starring HIS characters. I don't want to see that story with other characters, I want to see that story with the characters FROM that story, and to basically retell it with Rebels and Clone Wars characters... it's as you said, insulting. And don't get me wrong, I am happy for Ahsoka fans, I'm happy for Mando and Grogu fans, I'm happy for Rebels fans and Clone Wars fans to get more of characters they love in new stories. But at the same time, I have long since grown sick and tired of being told by various parts of the fandom and pop culture that I'm the one in the wrong, that I'm some sexist SW boomer who only wants OP Luke dancing around nuking AT-AT's with the Force when ALL I want are the stories I love and am passionate about being given life outside the theater of the mind. Now? We won't get the nuanced fact that because Luke and Vader took down the Emperor, we see the consequences of that from the Imperial side through Thrawn, Pelleon, or Mara Jade. We won't get the inspiring story of Mara overcoming psychic and emotional trauma done to her by Palpatine and his Last Command. We won't get to see the beautiful moment of Luke showing Mara his faith and trust in her by giving her his father's old lightsaber. We won't see the developing bond of Leia, Han, and Chewbacca through her pregnancy, the unfair expectations of running the New Republic at her feet, the difficult transition of Han from general and man of action to a political figurehead and becoming a family man. We won't see the atrocities of the Empire against the Noghri, the exploration of the criminal underworld with charismatic and pragmatic Talon Karrde (unless Blade Runner: Andor counts, which imo it doesn't by a long, boring, yawn filled shot). I still love SW, I still care about it. I just have grown very weary and distanced from what they're doing to it. And Filoni is a big reason as to why. Kennedy too, as well as Johnson, of course. It's no singular villain. But alas, I'll end this mini dissertation. Thanks for your time, looking forward to watching the rest of your content and what you bring forward here on out.
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing mate, many others here have expressed similar perspectives. Rest assured, you are very welcome in my sheltered harbour.
@magustobias8827
@magustobias8827 6 ай бұрын
​@@workingjellyfish ❤
@UnknownTuber450
@UnknownTuber450 2 ай бұрын
This was my first star wars celibration the only thing good was Joe Hogan and the artist alley. I had no information on any of the stuff going on, to be fair I was only able to go one day. But when I tried to go to an information booth they didn't know anything either and sent me to another infomation booth. What I was trying to look for was where the main merch store was located only to find out it closed halfway through the event. Later on a staff member told me they had a line for none ticketed people for the premiers then turns out by another staff member we all had to get out because we needed to win a lottery for the tickets.
@gamingguru2k6
@gamingguru2k6 6 ай бұрын
Cara Dune was my favorite new Star Wars character. Now I have more reason to just hate Disney Star Wars.
@MrChupacabra555
@MrChupacabra555 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I had always felt that "The Mandalorian" was intended to be Boba Fett, but for some reason they decided to make him a generic character instead......and then they actually give us Boba Fett, but make 2 episodes of his show an expansion of The Mandalorian, and THEN don't have him involved in the re-taking of Mandalore, when he was the very character who exposed us to Mandalorians in the first place!! 😡
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish 7 ай бұрын
I know right? 🤬
@TheEverSoTalented
@TheEverSoTalented 7 ай бұрын
#Karen
@TheEverSoTalented
@TheEverSoTalented 7 ай бұрын
BTW,Davw Filoni being the actual 'Creative Director' of #LucasFilm now is the very definition of a 'Contradiction In Terms' ! #TheGaslightingChampion #KathleenKarenKennedy #Justsaying
@PJKP82
@PJKP82 10 ай бұрын
By the time of Disney, Star Wars has become a cult. I don't want to experience a Celebration any more than I want to hang out in the Koresh compound.
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish 10 ай бұрын
The crowds at Star Wars celebration who mindlessly clap with each new announcement are reflective of your assessment.
@beekeeper8474
@beekeeper8474 5 ай бұрын
So she admits it's not a show women likes but wants nothing but women in charge?
@LudwigPaiste28
@LudwigPaiste28 3 ай бұрын
Stealing MORE of Luke’s thunder.
@dhedemadong
@dhedemadong Жыл бұрын
why are we celebrating star wars again? is there still anything to celebrate anymore?
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish Жыл бұрын
From a certain point of view.
@dhedemadong
@dhedemadong Жыл бұрын
@@workingjellyfish -__- now you remind me on how disney turn one of my childhood hero into a useless hobo AGAIN
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish Жыл бұрын
@@dhedemadong its a pain that never goes away.
@michaelc9915
@michaelc9915 6 ай бұрын
It should be remembered Star Wars in 2003 wasn't in great shape either.
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish 6 ай бұрын
“From a certain point of view”
@michaelc9915
@michaelc9915 6 ай бұрын
@@workingjellyfish And Return of the Jedi was easily the worst of the OT
@madmonkeys88
@madmonkeys88 5 ай бұрын
@@michaelc9915 people had mixed feelings about the prequels to be sure. But the star wars universe was fucking booming at that time. Because while the feelings about the movies was mixed, everyone (most people) loved the new setting and what could be done with it. I grew up in that time and star wars was massive and everybody lived it. Most people would do is complain about jat jar, midocloreans, clunky dialogue, and attack of the clones being boring. Thats pretty much it from what I remember.
@davidb9639
@davidb9639 5 ай бұрын
And the EU has just ended it's best post-ROTJ storyline with the New Jedi Order books.
@matthewmaxfield8443
@matthewmaxfield8443 5 ай бұрын
I personally won't watch a movie about the rebuilding of the jedi order unless Luke is the one doing the rebuilding. As far as I am concerned, the main line Star Wars movies are cancer after the force awakens
@AlexStarOfStarWars
@AlexStarOfStarWars 8 ай бұрын
The Ahsoka series really has nothing to do or feel like anything relating to the Thrawn Trilogy, so it's not even a c comparison.
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish 7 ай бұрын
Not yet, but have patience young Padawan.
@G.A.G.E.
@G.A.G.E. Жыл бұрын
2:36 It’s most likely another 💰grab by this greedy-a$$ company. Literally NO ONE wants to see Rey on the big screen no more. If anything, I think Finn should’ve been the main character. No, I’m not paying these guys crap, we all know how it ends.
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish Жыл бұрын
It’s an odd choice and unlikely to be particularly profitable.
@AlexStarOfStarWars
@AlexStarOfStarWars 8 ай бұрын
I prefer The New Jedi Order compare to the Thrawn Trilogy tbh.
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish 7 ай бұрын
The new Thrawn Trilogy? Or the one from the 90s?
@AlexStarOfStarWars
@AlexStarOfStarWars 7 ай бұрын
@@workingjellyfish 90s
@GrafWeb
@GrafWeb Жыл бұрын
#CancelDisneyPlus 🔥
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish Жыл бұрын
Vote with your wallet.
@squishyhunter1744
@squishyhunter1744 3 ай бұрын
Can't cancel what I never subscribed to.
@SubtractZero
@SubtractZero 7 ай бұрын
The moment the female Mandos took their helmets off, I was done with the show. No, I didn't care that they were chicks, but knowing *why* the writers needed their helmets to be removed. It wouldn't be enough for the audience to hear their voices, they *needed* the audience to see they were women, and that these were also "diverse" women. They spent all this time telling us how important the helmet-thing was in Mandalorian culture, only to shelve that element for the purpose of cultural pandering. Not only that, in the ocean-ship scene, they made sure to make Mando look like a blithering idiot so the boss-ladies could save him. It was utterly insufferable. I hope they leave Andor as a single-season show, there's no way that Disney can/will continue on that story without destroying it... like they did with Mando.
@sidnew2739
@sidnew2739 6 ай бұрын
That's just bullshit. Bo and her comrades were never bound by the same rules as "Mando" and his peers. They took off their helmets before in "Clone Wars" and anyone with eyes and ears figured out that they were women, helmets or not.
@SubtractZero
@SubtractZero 6 ай бұрын
@@sidnew2739 Yes, their voices were obviously female, refer to my original comment. I am commenting on 'The Mandalorian', not some "required reading" cartoon they made a decade ago. You can't expect everybody to watch 20-40hrs of additional content to understand this show. Now enjoy watching Star Wars bury itself while you're NPC-clapping away at it's demise. As I'm sure shows like Kenobi, Boba Fett, and Ahsoka will keep the Disney-ship afloat, they've been universally praised by... somebody... probably.
@sidnew2739
@sidnew2739 6 ай бұрын
@@SubtractZero I didn't praise anything, I just said that what you stated was wrong. They even mention the difference between the two tribes in a dialogue within this scene. So your only problem seems to be that women take their helmets off and one of them is even NOT WHITE (SHOCKING!).
@SubtractZero
@SubtractZero 6 ай бұрын
@@sidnew2739 Read my original comment, as you're the one who seems preoccupied with skin color... _sHoCkInG_ . So enjoy the slop, and make sure you go see 'Wish'. They made it just for you 😀
@sidnew2739
@sidnew2739 6 ай бұрын
@@SubtractZero Nothing in this reply makes sense. Like, at all.
@foodini666
@foodini666 Жыл бұрын
oh cool a new incel youtube star wars channel. we are so short of them just what we need.
@workingjellyfish
@workingjellyfish Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support, mate. “Two hundred thousand units are ready, with a million more well on the way”.
@sidnew2739
@sidnew2739 6 ай бұрын
Oh, cool, a new shit talking moron commenting! We were so short of them. Just what we needed.
@madmonkeys88
@madmonkeys88 5 ай бұрын
Lmao
@matthewmaxfield8443
@matthewmaxfield8443 5 ай бұрын
what does Star Wars have to do with incels?
@LudwigPaiste28
@LudwigPaiste28 3 ай бұрын
Durrrrrrr criticism of women mean ‘incel’ durrrrrrr.
@Tommytakanawa
@Tommytakanawa 6 ай бұрын
The Disney star wars trilogy Is the biggest pile of $hit to ever hit the silver screen. Kathleen Kennedy should have stuck to making coffee.
@sidnew2739
@sidnew2739 6 ай бұрын
You know nothing about Kennedy, obviously.
@Tommytakanawa
@Tommytakanawa 5 ай бұрын
@@sidnew2739 elaborate your opinion or keep your mouth shut.
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