Steinhart Ocean 39 vintage GMT premium BLUE RED Ceramic Pepsi Rolex GMT Master 6542 Homage 1675

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Steinhart Ocean 39 vintage GMT premium BLUE RED Ceramic Pepsi Rolex GMT Master 6542 Homage Rolex 1675
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@sonyman2112 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris, not sure if you noticed the lose screw on the top of the gold rotor right under the Steinhart logo, I'd be careful with it. not to muck up the movement before you open it. you can actually see where it belongs, If you look right on the top of the left side of the roto, you can see the screw hole.

@RobertFalconer1967 3 жыл бұрын

Whatever one feels about homage watches, the fact remains that Steinhart does it better than anyone and the quality and specifications for the money are nothing short of exceptional.

@LTC_Tiger 3 жыл бұрын

Are we just going to ignore the screw sitting on the automatic rotor at 2:59?

@WatchChris 3 жыл бұрын

Holy crap I didn't even see that It's working perfectly fine. I need to let The owner know about it. I'll also put a note in the description That's incredible Thanks for pointing it out!

@WrongTimeWatch 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, amazing

@LTC_Tiger 3 жыл бұрын

@@WatchChris I did a double take when I saw it...I was looking at one of these for a while, but I think I'm going to go for a BB GMT instead.

@MrShinobi797 3 жыл бұрын

I picked up on it too. The owner should get that sorted ASAP Chris...before it gets lodged somewhere and damages the movement.

@jazzman5598 3 жыл бұрын

I just looked at mine. I think the screw is the main/central rotor screw. Big ol hole in the direct center.

@inglebybhoy3293 3 жыл бұрын

I bought this watch on its release and although I’ve gone off the idea of homage watches, I have to say that this is a very high quality piece for the price. Dimensions are really nice, very comfortable, COSC accuracy, beautifully finished, lumed bezel has great feel. I’m often disappointed by other higher priced watches when comparing them to this. Steinhart makes solid watches. Great review!

@danielfl.9347 2 жыл бұрын

Do you still have it, and how many seconds a day does it gain / loose?

@inglebybhoy3293 2 жыл бұрын

@@danielfl.9347 I have it on the timegrapher now. +3 dial up, minus 1 crown down. It’s been a while since I wore it but I get approx. +5/day when wearing it. It has the SW330 movement. Looks great on the jubilee bracelet.

@danielfl.9347 2 жыл бұрын

@@inglebybhoy3293 Can you not choose to have the ETA movement when ordering?

@inglebybhoy3293 2 жыл бұрын

@@danielfl.9347 I was assured in writing that I’d get an ETA. They sent a Sellita. I complained and got a partial refund from Gnomon. If you order any Steinhart watch these days, assume it’s a Sellita. I don’t believe they have ETA movements anymore.

@danielfl.9347 2 жыл бұрын

@@inglebybhoy3293 I think you are right. My old 2015 Ocean One is an ETA 2824-2, but Swatch Group who own ETA has sort of closed of other brands availability. Perhaps Steinhart should stop writing ETA... Idk why Gnomon watches act like they did with you. Perhaps they know as little.

@r.8742 2 жыл бұрын

Love it. Just purchased one. The state of the watch market has obv changed now so get what u want/like. Paying double or triple for anything is ridiculous and being wealthy means keeping your money not wasting it. Steinhart def under valued regardless of homage or not. It begs the question... if they can do this and make a profit at 700 then how much should a rolex really be...

@craig2100 3 жыл бұрын

It's actually a good value for the money, regardless of homage or not. Nicely done, Chris!

@1018Frankie 3 жыл бұрын

I got the titanium gmt version and I love it, it’s a ton of watch for the money!

@martinbacon847 3 жыл бұрын

I think Chronometer grade is above top grade is above elabore grade on ETA.

@1SaG 2 жыл бұрын

Elaboré is actually the lowest grade of the SW330/ETA 2893, since there's no Standard grade on these. There are two grades above available (from ETA or Selitta, not from Steinhart), "Top" and "Chronometer" (or COSC?). Although I wouldn't see the point of a COSC movement for my SW330 equipped example. It (like all my Steinharts) is pretty well regulated and has been running within COSC parameters for 1.5 years now. The "Premium" moniker refers to the decoration on the movement I believe (perlage, blued screws, etc). Plus the fact that this version of the O1 has that chamfered edge on the lugs and a see-through caseback, both features that the more basic O1s don't have. This particular watch has an ETA movement... you can see the ETA maker's mark near the balance-wheel in the macro shots, plus the shape of the rotor and its bearing are dead giveaways. Just ignore that loose screw sitting on top of the rotor... ;)

@trooper427ss 3 жыл бұрын

I love mine.

@jazzman5598 Жыл бұрын

I have owned this watch with the ETA 2893-2 for 2 years now. I have been roasted in the comments on other channels for having the temerity to wear this “homage” watch. If it looks like any Rolex it looks like the GMT Master ll. I do not think there was ever a Rolex GMT (1 or 2) without a cyclops. It is an awesome watch with great quality. Terrific review Chris. What I’ve come to expect. Thanks!

@xpusostomos Жыл бұрын

Technically... They usually look like a GMT master I, not II

@Aaronseye 2 жыл бұрын

I have this watch and love it, and I'm not a big fan of steinhart from past experience, the size and wear is excellent. I can say what you are seeing in this video is what it actually looks like so if you like what you see then get it.

@GalaxysGreatestDad 3 жыл бұрын

This is my favorite Steinhart. Just one problem. It is faux patina, and faded dial look amazing. But the stark white date wheel throws it off. Once you see it, it's hard not to.

@WrongTimeWatch 3 жыл бұрын

I had considered buying one of these, to see if I should go after the real deal, but the case shape is not close enough for my preference.

@willardhooton920 2 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with a well done homage to a 67 year old classic - very few have the means to acquire and enjoy the genuine article, so I feel this is absolutely fair game. Pretty much a bulletproof GADA sapphire sandwich -we’ll done Steinhart!

@Taller-yl9yn 2 жыл бұрын

Glad I saw your video. I have a 7.5 “ wrist and feel that 42mm will work for me. Thank you; great video!

@Gath8mm 2 жыл бұрын

I actually like my Steinhart Ocean 39 GMT Ceramic better than the Rolex GMT Master II Coke I once had. I believe it's more accurate as well. Steinhart does a wonderful job balancing quality and performance at a more than reasonable price.

@danielfl.9347 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Chris. Good video.

@robertarevalo5306 3 жыл бұрын

That’s a beautiful watch. I think I would buy one. I think Mathey Tissot also make a gmt Pepsi and it looks very nice.. I would buy a vintage gmt not a brand new gmt. Great video. Keep up the good work. Thank you.

@MisterMaster4life 2 жыл бұрын

Nice watch, really would buy one if they made a bigger version. To me it looks small'ish on your 7,5 wrist. Unfortunately I have a 8+ inch wrist. I tried the 39mm ocean one green. Just too small for me. Hoped this one would wear bigger...wishfull thinking😂. Had a couple of gmt's 42mm which were nice but sold them. Don't know why. Maybe because I didn't like the modern font on the bezel. Had the Tudor Gmt, size perfect, looks perfect, but the date complication was giving me a hard time, sold it. Now looking for that vintage look. Awell...can't have all. Either way, thanks for sharing!

@adambourne254 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice watch

@dossantos5253 Жыл бұрын

since you reviewed the San Martin SN0005 GMT how does it compare to the Steinhart?

@jazzman5598 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had mine for almost a year. I have a very modest collection but this is my favorite watch (right now 😑). I see a very few watches with Desk GMT at this price. Squale makes a nice watch with the ETA 2893-2 movement but I don’t think QC is as good as Steinhart and they cost about $100.00 USD more. I usually see this movement in watches in the $1500.00 to $2000.00 USD range. I REALLY wanted the ETA & not the Sellita SW 330 as the forums continue to favor the quality of the ETA over what some watch makers report as poor heat treating in the Sellita movements. The ETA Makers Mark is on the edge (get your lupe out) just North of the balance wheel and in the vicinity of “2893-2”. Finally, I have heard the criticism that the GMT hand does not line up at the top of the hour. I have not had that reported problem in mine. Line up is great!

@danielfl.9347 2 жыл бұрын

How is it holding up?

@24hourgmtchannel64 2 жыл бұрын

Not the 1675. It actually homages the the first 1954 - 1959 non-crown guard GMT 6542 with the bakelite illuminated insert. I also consider the Tudor BB GMT to be a homage to the 6542 although Steinhart's rendering at 39mm is a bit more faithful rendition believe it or not. Tudor really needs to make one in the thinner 39mm case because their current fat 41mm case is a huge turn off. The person who buys this watch is really looking to get a vintage era GMT and Steinhart nailed it IMO.

@shotgunsteve93 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful watch. I just wish the date wasn't bright white. They should've made it a cream/beige color to match the rest of the watch.

@jonathanrobinson9208 3 жыл бұрын

It's a really nice looking watch, if you don't want to spend that kind of money why not ? I'm not sure if I see this correctly , inside the exhibition caseback I think there's a loose screw sitting on the rotor ? A heads up to let your friend know if there is ! 👍👌❤

@piotrszmidel 3 жыл бұрын

They should take some other colour of date wheel.Also noticed instantly the loose screw on the movement 😅

@Beck-Stein 2 жыл бұрын

If you look at photos of all original vintage gmts the date wheel is still white.

@dontfeedthead6467 3 жыл бұрын

I assume they made a unidirectional bezel for their sub homage and just used a different insert for the GMT homage. GMT has no need to be unidirectional and should really be bidirectional for ease of use.

@hootonhoot 2 жыл бұрын

Really enjoy this watch, however I don’t understand the patina colored print on dial!

@BiffTannenBTTF 3 жыл бұрын

More like the 6542 because it doesn't have crown guards. Elabore grade is 2nd out of 4 grades of the 2824. Adjusted in three positions, +/- 20s/day maximum.

@WatchChris 3 жыл бұрын

True good point

@LinuxGruven 2 жыл бұрын

@@WatchChris not to belabor this point but the Steinhart Ocean 39 vintage GMT premium BLUE-RED Ceramic which is the watch we speaking of comes with either ETA 2893-2 Top - with Glucydur balance or the Sellita SW330 Top. I can only personally speak about the ETA movement but I have had my Steinhart Ocean 39 vintage GMT premium with the ETA movement for about six months and it seems to lose 2-3 seconds a day.

@xpusostomos 2 жыл бұрын

A bit of a correction: on the GMT master, at least the ones of this vintage, certainly the ones up until well beyond the year 2000, the GMT hand is not adjustable. i.e. it's just a 24 hour hand, linked to the hour hand. If the hour hand says 12, the GMT hand either says 12 or 24, nothing else. You get time zones by adjusting the bezel. This is in contrast to the GMT master II which came a lot later.

@seayak 10 ай бұрын

interesting. And yet people pay ridiculous prices for the original GMT master. Not about functionality, apparently.

@xpusostomos 10 ай бұрын

@@seayak you think that's bad, the original explorer II was a non adjustable 24 hour hand WITHOUT a rotating bezel. I.E. it's purely a day night indicator

@seayak 10 ай бұрын

@@xpusostomos Ha, along with the comment above that one GMT Master II that was not even keeping time as accurately as a Steinhart (this one needed regulation, obviously), this tells me that Rolex is coasting on innovations in accuracy and features that have long since been duplicated and even exceeded by a host of other manufacturers. Only Rolex groupies are still buying the markey pitch that Rolexes are leaps and bounds better than other watches on the market. Look at "Oystersteel" for example, which is simple 904 vs 316 stainless. Steinhart makes an Ocean One in 904 steel and it doesn't cost tens of thousands. Bravo to Gunter Steinhart for shaking the tree!

@xpusostomos 10 ай бұрын

@@seayak Rolex were never that great. Even well past the year 2000 the bracelets were stamped end links and clasps. The movements were solid, reliable and kept good time, but with age they go astray like any movement. But they weren't that special. Which was ok when they were like $US3000 and easy to get, but now not so much. I have a Steinhart ocean 1, it's definitely better than its Rolex cousin from the 70s. From the year 2000.. toss up. At least it has solid end links.

@seayak 10 ай бұрын

@@xpusostomos Spot on!. It is, nice that we can benefit from your experience with older Rolex watches. My local watchmaker loves Rolex movements, but the he also loves the gold ones he owns, and is very proud of being able to afford them. Personally my watches are useful tools and prized possessions, but will never be symbols of status or personal achievement. My father, who was an engineer, had a Rolex Oyster Perpetual that he wore through WWII as an artillery officer, purchased back in that time when they were affordable for normal persons. In the 60's he traded it for a Bulova Accutron that kept better time. He said something at the time which turned out to be prescient. "Eventually", he said " you will be able to buy a watch that tells better time than this Rolex, for less than it costs me to have the thing serviced every couple of years".

@peterc3700 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely on the fence. I probably won’t buy it. Thanks for the review!

@mig1600 3 жыл бұрын

Did you notice the loose screw inside? Right hand corner, at 3:00. I would return this watch to Steinhart asap.

@WatchChris 3 жыл бұрын

Hey yes I noticed and asked the owner he actually did some work on the watch himself and he believes that is the reason the the loose screw... Thanks for the comment please don't forget to like and subscribe!!!

@juniorjohnson5961 3 жыл бұрын

Just wondering if you've had a Davosa on the channel haven't seen a review of one ?

@WatchChris 3 жыл бұрын

Hey no I havent... I have reached out to them not heard back

@4034miguel Жыл бұрын

Uni-directional is really a deal breaker for me. Is there a Steinhart GMT 39 with Bi-directional bezel? They really favoring the Diver aspect of the watch even if everything says It is a GMT.

@kevinjansen2738 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a chance to win a watch. Great channel

@Disco170 Жыл бұрын

It is not a standard Steinhart packaging. Only if you run a KZfaq channel. If you don't, the watch is delivered in a very cheap paper box.

@seayak 10 ай бұрын

This has not been my experience. Each of my 4 Steinharts has come with the nice leatherette box, packaged inside the cardboard box, inside the well-padded shipping carton. I keep the watches in these boxes, and they are of very good quality. By contrast a Tissot diver that cost more than some of my Steinharts came in a rather flimsy cardboard box with graphics that invoke the arcitechture of the Tissot factory. Whoop de doo. Cardboard is always only cardboard, however you try to dress is up as anything else.

@Mn-yo6tv Жыл бұрын

There is a screw on the Rotor lol?

@mr.anderson1583 2 жыл бұрын

Um… at 3 minutes into the video, when showing the see thru case back, IS THAT A SCREW I SEE on the rotor😬. Yikes, might want to get that looked at.

@Gath8mm 3 жыл бұрын

You know you have a loose screw inside of your watch case. It's resting on the rotor in the still shot.

@GeorgeUK84 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t be that important of a screw. Still works.

@nimmichagger165 2 жыл бұрын

That white date wheel just destroys the dial. A black one, a faux patina to match the numerals or just no dial would have been better..

@hootonhoot 2 жыл бұрын

I had pointed out the same and the point was made to me that many original examples have stark white date wheels as they don’t patina like lumed elements and dial. Furthermore, why did Steinhart use a patina toned script??

@dgrantreiter 6 ай бұрын

Ref. 6542 Homage....No Crown Guard 🙂

@TheSexyoyster 3 жыл бұрын

I see a loose black screw on top of the rotor....speechless....!!!!

@raymondpoh 2 жыл бұрын

Zodiac watches are more expensive. Don't know what you mean when you suggested Zodiac

@whatthewhat11 3 жыл бұрын

Loose screw!! 2:59

@sobeit712 2 жыл бұрын

Somehow the finishing looks rough.

@hootonhoot 2 жыл бұрын

Heavily brushed bezel and bracelet

@benconover72 2 жыл бұрын

Spot the screw loose in the movement.....@ 3mins

@ET-cj8jo Жыл бұрын

With a loose screw in the mechanism ? Not a good indication of QC. No thanks.

@fredscott8436 3 жыл бұрын

TIMEPIECE GENTLEMAN is all high-end watch folks are interested in........as opposed to wannabe junk watches on a low-level website...............

@inglebybhoy3293 3 жыл бұрын

‘Hope you get your money back 😂

@michaelkilbride2927 3 ай бұрын

I have a steinhart with a jubilee bracelet its as rough as a bears arse never again

@986C 2 жыл бұрын

So embarrassing to wear these ‘homages’. I’d rather wear a real Casio

@GeorgeUK84 2 жыл бұрын

I’m a proud Steinhart owner.

@986C 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeUK84 I’m sorry

@hootonhoot 2 жыл бұрын

@@986C Enjoy you original Casio, lol

@jaer.6540 3 жыл бұрын

All printed dial? Boooo

@hootonhoot 2 жыл бұрын

Vintage look