Steven Crowder Sounds Alarm In Regards To Big Conservative Media Contracts - A Review and Breakdown

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Steven Crowder released a video slamming to horrendous state of Conservative Media contracts and even goes as far to say that they are actually HELPING big tech censor conservative voices.
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@rahn45
@rahn45 Жыл бұрын
If it was a mainstream media company offering this contract, all those people jumping to defend the DW would be attacking them instead.
@Cybeldar
@Cybeldar Жыл бұрын
The censorship is okay this time because we are the ones doing it, crowd irritates me to no end.
@Buffalo0373
@Buffalo0373 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@johnanthony9923
@johnanthony9923 Жыл бұрын
OR.....unlike you......they just understand how economics and capitalism work.
@cargopilotguy305
@cargopilotguy305 Жыл бұрын
Because they make money from commercials not ad reads which require the show host to, you know, make a show and read the ads.
@carlavegas887
@carlavegas887 Жыл бұрын
@@johnanthony9923are you under the impression DW has no choice?
@Cybeldar
@Cybeldar Жыл бұрын
Just wait until next year when the DW endorses Liz Cheney or Adam Kinzinger.
@lordthunderchicken4636
@lordthunderchicken4636 Жыл бұрын
Team up with the Lincoln project pedos more then likely.
@zerohunterx5
@zerohunterx5 Жыл бұрын
They won't have to wait a year for that lol
@glo3139
@glo3139 Жыл бұрын
OMG!!! WhT. Disaster!! May as well get really funds now. Sure as hell gonna need it.
@kevinh2345
@kevinh2345 Жыл бұрын
Bruh, Candace Owens is already that. A looney lefty running a doxxing website, Social Autopsy. And whenever she gets mad, she goes right back to that like a dog returns to its vomit.
@phillippropst3825
@phillippropst3825 Жыл бұрын
I’ll take that bet how much do you want to pay me? Some of you guys are possibly worse than the left. People are aloud to disagree with you, I thought we liked debate on this side? Anytime someone doesn’t agree with something seen as based, the purity test has been taken and failed. They are now deemed unclean and compromised. But it only works in one direction I noticed. The farther right you go you can be wrong and will be defended. For instance “the Juice rule everything” crowd. Doesn’t matter how ludicrous, most won’t speak up on that. But Klaven said voter fraud may not have changed the election? Gasp “they’re bought and paid for shills!”
@Neves7561
@Neves7561 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe the Babylon Bee would do something like this
@Mexican-tacobutnotabreakfast1
@Mexican-tacobutnotabreakfast1 Жыл бұрын
They are too Christian. Tsk tsk
@randomcomment6068
@randomcomment6068 Жыл бұрын
They do even more, unfortunately.
@cinnamonrollypoly
@cinnamonrollypoly Жыл бұрын
Lol
@angelikac6767
@angelikac6767 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣glad I'm not the only 1 watching way to much of this
@ronswanson1410
@ronswanson1410 Жыл бұрын
Team hitler in this b
@Wildcat_Media
@Wildcat_Media Жыл бұрын
I used to work for a moderately-sized conservative website. Nowhere near the size of The Daily Wire or Crowder, but we were in the mix. I saw so much crap behind the scenes and saw how little these conservative media companies ultimately do not walk the walk. You think that they’re on your side and your voice is getting heard? No. You are just a click and a view to them. All of the tactics that we complain that the leftist mainstream media does? These conservative sites do the same thing. They know they have a loyal fanbase and they will exploit their audience and their talent for all its worth. I was never presented with a contract like what Crowder is talking about, but I heard of people who were. Instead, I was lucky enough to get laid off when Facebook and Twitter were blocking news sites after Trump was elected. The numbers fell and the ad revenue dried up. I was pissed at the time, but I now know it was a blessing in disguise. I’m in a much better job now and I am far from that field.
@OrwellsHousecat
@OrwellsHousecat Жыл бұрын
Good for you
@ffs6158
@ffs6158 Жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in California, I've noticed a very hysterical hyperbole narrative the last 2 years or so about the state in conservative media, even caught outright lies. Like yeah, the state is bad, especially in certain areas, but there's no reason to lie. It's the same tactic leftist media uses. It's often used to distract from the real reason red states are turning blue, like GOP complicity in progressive ideology, the very reason CA turned blue to begin with.
@thmsmgnm
@thmsmgnm Жыл бұрын
@@ffs6158California is worse than most people even assume.
@lydiamalone1859
@lydiamalone1859 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what Crowder wants to avoid. He wants lots of new creators to have space to grow. As it stands now a lot of the people who are stable wouldn't even be able to get in at this point. That's exactly how daily wire wants it. It's about control.
@One_Shot21
@One_Shot21 Жыл бұрын
What are you doing for a living now?
@mistaajones
@mistaajones Жыл бұрын
I think Barnes was right: Daily Wire _never wanted_ Crowder. They would only accept him if he severely neutered his content.
@michaelmacentee9781
@michaelmacentee9781 Жыл бұрын
Even worse, DW as an entity wants to be THE Gatekeeper for Conservative content, shame on them and their billionaire investors...
@Zach0451
@Zach0451 Жыл бұрын
You've never seen a business contract in your life nor have you ever negotiated one.
@1984Variant
@1984Variant Жыл бұрын
@@Zach0451 considering the lawyer is in agreement, you might be projecting friend.
@carlavegas887
@carlavegas887 Жыл бұрын
@@Zach0451neither have you clearly, learn how to be persuasive.
@Zach0451
@Zach0451 Жыл бұрын
@1984Variant I can find lawyers to agree with DW, does that just make us even now? Appealing to authority where it doesn't belong isn't a winning strategy.
@jamesbarca7229
@jamesbarca7229 Жыл бұрын
I was never a big consumer of DW b/c they never struck me as truly being conservative, rather a media company that catered to conservatives...like Fox News.
@PengusKhan
@PengusKhan Жыл бұрын
I never watched them because they aren't a Christian organization
@phillippropst3825
@phillippropst3825 Жыл бұрын
@@PengusKhan Then I assume you are neutral in this fight right? Seeing as how Jesus knew Judas would betray him, yet let him travel with him, are his last meal with him. He did that all without ever pointing him out to his followers to be a betrayer. Wait wtf are you doing on this channel if you only watch Christian content? 🤡
@phillippropst3825
@phillippropst3825 Жыл бұрын
What is a women is the largest cultural conservative moment in decades. Name one bigger. Brought to you by the daily wire.
@jamesbarca7229
@jamesbarca7229 Жыл бұрын
@@phillippropst3825 And that proves what?
@jjr1728
@jjr1728 Жыл бұрын
@@phillippropst3825 Nice try, Shlomo.
@mariokarter13
@mariokarter13 Жыл бұрын
Crowder: This is the worst contract I've ever seen. Jeremy: And I took that personally.
@xzenderx
@xzenderx Жыл бұрын
Crowder didn't even go that far until the timcast from what i saw too. Crowder went really soft on DW, just focusing on the arm of big tech stuff. Its people breaking the contract down after Jeremy tried to big it up thats being hard on them lol, not crowder. Its impossible to defend that contract, it was insane.
@musikinspace
@musikinspace Жыл бұрын
Jeremy is a bit slow, you can see it in his eyes. Bless his heart.
@Tlicious04
@Tlicious04 Жыл бұрын
How is it that so many people disregard the fact that DW outed THEMSELVES! In the initial video, Crowder never said it was about him, never said it was insulting (it was), didn't tell anyone to offer him a better deal, and didn't ask for new subscribers to mugclub. He showed future creators what a predatory contract looks like, and advised them to protect themselves by having competent legal counsel. He didn't even go so far as to say "don't ever work with these companies", just don't get f*cked by them. His plea to ALL conservative companies was to figure out a business model that aligns with the ideals that you are selling. Most paying subscribers are taking conservative media companies at their word; when you give us money, your supporting an entity that has the power and resources to fight on your behalf. Crowder's ask was not radical or unreasonable: don't screw over the talent and customers that make conservative media and its success possible.
@joeymchavarti1956
@joeymchavarti1956 Жыл бұрын
No one is disregarding that nonsense they just aren't buying your ignorance. There is no one who could have made an offer to crowder other than DW or Prager U. This dumb cult talking point is so absurd. Crowder is a giant whiny bitch who: 1) DID demand they throw out that offer letter and come back with a better offer so you're lying. 2) did ask for mugclub members 3) did counteroffer so it was literally just about the money. You being a cultist for him ignoring reality just shows that the far right and the far left are the same cultists with a different colored flag.
@Tlicious04
@Tlicious04 Жыл бұрын
@@joeymchavarti1956 Your 3 points did not happen in the first video. Did you watch it..? Also, the offer was not publicly known until DW publicized it, so that argument doesn't hold up.
@joeymchavarti1956
@joeymchavarti1956 Жыл бұрын
@Toree Moore 😂🤣 who cares about crowder first video your comment was 1 day ago when we had all the information on crowders endless lies. I watched ALL the videos and got all the context. You're cherrypicking 1 old video of crowder lying and ignoring everything else. The offer was known the millisecond crowder hit publish this is the dumbest non argument it took 30 seconds to know it was either DW or prager u so a thin veil being your pathetic defense is just sad.
@Tlicious04
@Tlicious04 Жыл бұрын
@@joeymchavarti1956Antagonistic overconfidence and projections aside, I appreciate you taking the time to challenge my argument. It would seem my intent to engage in a productive back and forth is a waste in this exchange, so I'll have to agree to disagree with you. I do hope you enjoy the rest of your evening :)
@joeymchavarti1956
@joeymchavarti1956 Жыл бұрын
@Toree Moore 😂🤣 what argument? It's ok I discovered through this event that crowder cultists are the exact same as the young turks cultists. Made me realize how similar the lowest iq of all sides are. :)
@realtorlesliemiller3293
@realtorlesliemiller3293 Жыл бұрын
This channel is one of the best finds out of this whole fiasco. 🙌👍
@GodwynDi
@GodwynDi Жыл бұрын
I'm on east coast, so I rarely get to catch the livestreams anymore, but they are great
@ChatMort69420
@ChatMort69420 Жыл бұрын
Welcome!!
@carlerichsen
@carlerichsen Жыл бұрын
I would recommend watching destiny’s video on this shit show
@av1204
@av1204 Жыл бұрын
why he is a terrible lawyer
@carlavegas887
@carlavegas887 Жыл бұрын
Oh welcome welcome!
@ShaunInce123
@ShaunInce123 Жыл бұрын
One thing I found really strange was how Mark Dice was on the defensive for Daily Wire, when he was covering the situation.
@Sahbla
@Sahbla Жыл бұрын
I don't blame you for finding it strange, we all have a hair trigger when it comes to betrayal in this circle of people because we're backed against the wall in every category due to the leftists, culturally, educationally, governmentally and financially.
@majordddd
@majordddd Жыл бұрын
I can see if he was in the middle but he was hard DW and was leaving key facts out. He always seemed like someone that did his research before hand.
@Zach0451
@Zach0451 Жыл бұрын
If Mark Dice was to ever be correct about anything, it would be this spat.
@ProudBostonian
@ProudBostonian Жыл бұрын
@@Zach0451 How TF do you figure that? DW is exploiting young conservative creators for financial gain while spewing diarrhea from their mouth about “fighting for conservative values”…..that’s interesting considering one of the main groups of conservatives are “The Little Guy”…..
@ProudBostonian
@ProudBostonian Жыл бұрын
Mark Dice and ABL (Anthony Brian Logan ARE COMPLETELY WRONG HERE….I won’t list the reasons why but suffice it to say there are SEVERAL!
@mikecouch2060
@mikecouch2060 Жыл бұрын
I think the big takeaway from all this is you can never trust a never-Trumper.
@josephyamada9893
@josephyamada9893 Жыл бұрын
Did anybody notice that Jeremy has Susan on speed dial? He said that he talked to her about being unfair to crowder, i don't know how closer you can get to big tech 🤣
@fangsvengeful4465
@fangsvengeful4465 Жыл бұрын
Shhhhh you werent suppose to know that
@Matt-yg8ub
@Matt-yg8ub Жыл бұрын
Oh very much so, I’ve pointed this out several times and people keep telling me that I’m lying it can’t be true no that never happened no way couldn’t be. But Ben bragged about it in his video.
@ArtsySinger
@ArtsySinger Жыл бұрын
And notice that he didn't have to stand up for DW because they actually haven't been treated like Crowder has, as he said they have. He wasn't putting his own company aside to be altruistic, as he insinuated. If they had been treated as he said, he would have brought it up to her. And why haven't they been treated that way? Because they don't have the balls to do and say what Crowder does, perhaps?
@darkma1ice
@darkma1ice Жыл бұрын
17:00 the fact that DW left this in just shows that they didn’t care. Starting OUT, crowder would’ve lost 12.5mil out of the original 50 because HE HAS BEEN DEMONETIZED FOR YEARS
@jackjon7763
@jackjon7763 Жыл бұрын
A full years budget taken away from the get go lol
@mithicash1444
@mithicash1444 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and nobody talks about it. The contract is predatory as hell, and apparently, it is okay because CAPITALISM and DW got to make money(or the most money they can possibly milk, not just profit)
@lordswaine5238
@lordswaine5238 Жыл бұрын
Even if they were to give him a pass on that judging by the nature of Steven he would have easily lost 25% within the first year. So when people look at the 50 million mark they need to immediately deduct 12.5 from it because that's realistically what they're going to be giving him and they know that.
@tilley7242
@tilley7242 Жыл бұрын
Crowder is completely right
@Luciphers_Workshop
@Luciphers_Workshop Жыл бұрын
Really?? So now conservatives are forcing companies to hire people or to shame them?? Well, I guess the free market will die because conservatives
@ironrex6979
@ironrex6979 Жыл бұрын
No he’s not he’s a hypocrite look up what he did to Owen Benjamin and others
@xa5150
@xa5150 Жыл бұрын
@@ironrex6979 He fined them, charged them fees that outdid more than he paid them, made them pay for everything work related, took ownership of everything they earned or made up until that point, presented himself as having conservative principles and then presented them with a contract counter to that, publicly smeared them after they left and lied about them, etc? Okay, Jonestown. Keep the fanboy lies to yourself.
@ironrex6979
@ironrex6979 Жыл бұрын
@@xa5150 I’m not lying unlike Crowder. He’s not even a real conservative. He’s playing you all as suckers. It’s business. At least Daily Wire has better content but at the end of the day business is business. Crowder plays dirty like a lefty and is pretty wokey.
@manatoa1
@manatoa1 Жыл бұрын
You don't offer those kinds of terms to a friend, or even someone you respect.
@JDAfrica
@JDAfrica Жыл бұрын
Of they offered a friend this contract - I’d love to see a contract they offer someone they don’t like
@kevinclause4p55p5
@kevinclause4p55p5 Жыл бұрын
Steven asked for $120 million over 4 years, for him, his expenses, and his team of 25+. If mug club is 350,000 people paying 69 or 99 annually, that makes Crowder worth between 24 and 34 million annually. let's round to 30 mil. The contract was for 4 years. 30milx4=120mil. His request was reasonable based on subscription revenue alone. DW offered him 50 (so I guess they keep the other 120-50=70) and wanted all those strings and to take all his social media and own all the revenue from everything else, including merch, and add so many adverts that if would fundamentally change the show, and make him do monthly crap that DW members get. That 50mil DW offered him, was for 768 shows, or 64k per episode, and DW would dock him 100k for each one he misses. Terrible contract.
@BekahC90
@BekahC90 Жыл бұрын
I think he also said that 350,000 was their low end as well which means there’s a high end, or the even calculated those that cross streams and watch both… I think he’s probably has more than 350,000 but that’s just my assumption.
@hugow.5973
@hugow.5973 Жыл бұрын
Him and Gerald never asked for 120million.
@KaleSerpent
@KaleSerpent Жыл бұрын
And... Crowder bares the cost of production and DW tried to come off as being nice and letting him have the control over production. It's like... well yea, he's gonna be paying for it.
@Zach0451
@Zach0451 Жыл бұрын
Crowder doesn't know how many subs he gets for mugclub and you're assuming a lot to get to these numbers.
@apisme9090
@apisme9090 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the breakdown.
@FREEEDDOOMM
@FREEEDDOOMM Жыл бұрын
All big media seems to be a problem. On both sides.
@SaltyKeldion
@SaltyKeldion Жыл бұрын
@@roberts6872 Compact headwear?
@yukiko6137
@yukiko6137 Жыл бұрын
Literally ziouniparty
@kylekatarn5964
@kylekatarn5964 Жыл бұрын
Mostly the psychotic incentives to maximize exposure on the internet. It doesn't matter if it is quality, it's content. It's the fast food'ing of opinion/entertainment.
@TRENCHESandTREADS
@TRENCHESandTREADS Жыл бұрын
@@roberts6872 Oy vey, this one right here officah!
@mithicash1444
@mithicash1444 Жыл бұрын
The problem is publically(or bikkionaire) owned companies that care about nothing else but profits and shares.
@Jay-Ram76
@Jay-Ram76 Жыл бұрын
Babylon Bee skit of the phone call between Steven and Jeremy is hilarious! And what’s up Mark Dice’s a**? A broomstick? 😂
@amymusick5455
@amymusick5455 Жыл бұрын
IKR? He can't seem to get past the recording of the conversation.
@Jay-Ram76
@Jay-Ram76 Жыл бұрын
@@amymusick5455 You’d think he watched TimcastIRL to listen to the full story of why he recorded the phone call. When Crowder negotiated the term sheet before he KZfaqd it, soon after they talked DW we’re trying to poach his employees the next day. Then Crowder made the call and recorded it. Makes great sense to me when finding out your supposed friend Jeremy was calling his chief engineer to go work for them and others as well. Mark Dice had some anger issue or something personal between him and Crowder, weird.
@juliebartlett4222
@juliebartlett4222 Жыл бұрын
@@Jay-Ram76 It's almost like they wanted to take away his employees so that they could make him need DW's services (at, of course, "reasonable" prices)...Hmm.
@Jay-Ram76
@Jay-Ram76 Жыл бұрын
@@juliebartlett4222 Very possible, and to demoralize him, and just out a vindictive spite because they can knowing Crowder can be a condescending butthead, which I like of him when talking to people like Jeremy of DW. Also companies and corporations as an entity are psychopaths. So I’ve learned from high profile people, research it. It’s pretty interesting and makes total sense. Hi btw ;-)
@CoryFPS
@CoryFPS Жыл бұрын
Mark called me a moron twice when I said he would sell out in a heartbeat based on how often he brought up money in his videos.
@cinnamonrollypoly
@cinnamonrollypoly Жыл бұрын
It was good to see him on Timcast last night.
@ronswanson1410
@ronswanson1410 Жыл бұрын
cumcast pooled a creaming crowder from the boys locker room shenanigans.
@cinnamonrollypoly
@cinnamonrollypoly Жыл бұрын
@@ronswanson1410 Young Turks watcher?
@ronswanson1410
@ronswanson1410 Жыл бұрын
@@cinnamonrollypoly bruh fuck those tyt cringelords they are the punching bag on the internet for good reason
@cinnamonrollypoly
@cinnamonrollypoly Жыл бұрын
@@ronswanson1410 Well, you're sounding exactly like one of their subscribers, so...
@ronswanson1410
@ronswanson1410 Жыл бұрын
@@cinnamonrollypoly That's fair to assume, but I think both TYT watchers and Crowder fans are basically the same type of shitty, self-serving, validation seeking, close minded, intellectually lazy people. So it's a position that both agrees and disagrees with your world view most likely.
@guyfanno1
@guyfanno1 Жыл бұрын
NIGHTS WATCH has a very clarifying video about this. Over 3 hours long and he does not hold back.
@mattherron173
@mattherron173 Жыл бұрын
Knight's Watch actually. But shad did a good job and he had another 2 hour response looking at Ben's 10 minute video. He's reaching Longman levels of length.
@batmaninc2793
@batmaninc2793 Жыл бұрын
@@mattherron173 Watched ‘em both. No Regerts
@mattrivera8587
@mattrivera8587 Жыл бұрын
Cover Nicole Arbours video on Candace! Its a pretty big deal. Candace recorded conversations with Nicole prior to the panel she was on. Threatened to even air them during the show when Nicole was owning her on cancel culture
@fluffypink6unny
@fluffypink6unny Жыл бұрын
Yes, somebody brought that up last night. Candace full of BS!
@KaleSerpent
@KaleSerpent Жыл бұрын
That's kinda funny. I mean, I have always had a really bad impression of Candice, so I can't say I'm surprised but still nice to see other people notice it.
@carllennen3520
@carllennen3520 Жыл бұрын
I hope you aren't "supporting" Nicole Arbour. She is every bit of a hypocrite as Candice Owen's is. She's actually a legitimate psycho. I'm NOT defending Candace Owen's. She's the worst type of lying, grifter, conwoman, hypocrite, but that doesn't mean Nicole Arbour isn't also these things. These are two disgusting, evil, lying, psychopaths, attacking each other for clicks and revenue generation. Paying any attention to these types of people only gives them what they want. Attention, and revenue.
@KaleSerpent
@KaleSerpent Жыл бұрын
@@carllennen3520 I vaguely remember the name but other than remembering that she isn't worth a damn, I can't remember too much. Side note, you reply is hidden from me for some reason. Seen it before, but still no idea why some replies get hidden.
@realtorlesliemiller3293
@realtorlesliemiller3293 Жыл бұрын
Arbour is messy... unfortunately her word doesn't carry much weight.
@IDCrisisDesign_dot_com
@IDCrisisDesign_dot_com Жыл бұрын
Ironic once you remember Shapiro wrote Crowder’s contract when he was on Fox News.
@lydiamalone1859
@lydiamalone1859 Жыл бұрын
Shapiro works for his Rich benefactors now who are the Bush rino wing of the Republican party.
@nealorr5086
@nealorr5086 Жыл бұрын
He would have reviewed the contract Fox proffered to Crowder, not write one.
@IDCrisisDesign_dot_com
@IDCrisisDesign_dot_com Жыл бұрын
@@nealorr5086 that then
@JDAfrica
@JDAfrica Жыл бұрын
Although I don’t like Ben and his position on most things - I think they are friends, and I don’t think Ben wrote this contract. That Jeremy guy at DW (who is a part time razor salesman) always comes across as a douche… this is the kind of snake move he would do.
@nealorr5086
@nealorr5086 Жыл бұрын
@@JDAfrica Hi, Steven. You fight like hell to stay on KZfaq. We're going to offer you a contract which requires you to fight like hell to stay on KZfaq. HOW DARE YOU!
@Opachki69420
@Opachki69420 Жыл бұрын
As a fellow Minnesotan as well as a fellow Nick, thanks for being awesome dude.
@takenserious4554
@takenserious4554 Жыл бұрын
Based on fee reductions in a, b, and c: if Crowder signs the contract and then doesn't produce a single show, he would DW 139 million dollars over 6 years.
@bleb87
@bleb87 Жыл бұрын
He wouldnt owe anything. Thats not how reductions work, you can only reduce to zero.
@lydiamalone1859
@lydiamalone1859 Жыл бұрын
Robert Barnes made that exact same point that he would actually owe money. Crowder made it clear that it was all about the punishments if you were cancelled. Those punishments make people self censor. Now I'm wondering how much Jordan Peterson, Candace Owen and others self censor. It's the same problem we have now only with so-called conservatives doing it.
@kylekatarn5964
@kylekatarn5964 Жыл бұрын
@@bleb87 Oh really? You think DW wouldn't sue for those unpaid penalties if he went negative?
@takenserious4554
@takenserious4554 Жыл бұрын
@@bleb87 I get that XD. The point is that the fee erosion potential is 3 x the fee, and that's not even all the possible reductions in the contract.
@nealorr5086
@nealorr5086 Жыл бұрын
@@lydiamalone1859 "What happened to that kid who had to cheat to pass 7th grade math? Oh".
@th3m4g
@th3m4g Жыл бұрын
The part that really got me on Timcast IRL was when he said about DW trying to poach Crowders PR accounts guy, after he told them, he's got a guy and wants to keep him, thats scumbaggory.
@j.k.4479
@j.k.4479 Жыл бұрын
All the while Jeremy was trying to claim he was friends with Crowder.
@sglasgowaz
@sglasgowaz Жыл бұрын
I literally had a company want us to sign a contract that any code we wrote was owned by them. Not during company time or on our own machines, ALL of IT. They literally sent a lawyer to talk to me to say that was not what it meant. I merely said, fine, change the language and I will sign that you own anything I write on company time and on company equipment. You're not going to own me off company time and company resources.
@JDAfrica
@JDAfrica Жыл бұрын
Well done! To me, a contract is there for when things go wrong and the relationship sours … not for the ‘around the campfire’ fun and happy periods. When the language isn’t clear - you will lose. Simply because you can’t afford a full time lawyer and they can exhaust you financially in courts and arbitration.
@inthefade
@inthefade Жыл бұрын
I've gone back and forth on this. I think I'm settled on Steven's side now. As an artist who's had to deal with shitty "form" contracts I find it insulting when I am asked to give my work away in perpetuity.
@svenjorgensenn8418
@svenjorgensenn8418 Жыл бұрын
Own your own shit, that's what I did. Studio, auto garage and Cafe. All built from scratch with as few of loans as possible. I would rather deal with a bank than a media company
@google_must_die
@google_must_die Жыл бұрын
Some people have a horrible take on this whole situation.
@istaphobe
@istaphobe Жыл бұрын
If you do the math, there’s a way Crowder could end up having to pay the daily wire to work there, lol. That’s kinda crappy.
@Mpacitto
@Mpacitto Жыл бұрын
If you do the math wrong, it will look like that.
@joootooobboosheet2486
@joootooobboosheet2486 Жыл бұрын
@@Mpacitto You're a tard. The penalties could add up to 110% of what they were going to pay Crowder, which means he would actually owe money to DW.
@alienrenders
@alienrenders Жыл бұрын
@@Mpacitto If you do the math correctly, it won't just look like that, it IS that.
@Rafael_Fuchs
@Rafael_Fuchs Жыл бұрын
@@alienrenders It's taking the math at face value. Which, that's not a wrong way to do it. Their terms aren't very clear. The only clear thing is that you'll get shafted for taking it. It could also be a penalty of what remains. So, 100*0.25 = 75, then 75*0.20 = 60, ect until you hit ~29% of your starting budget. Both are technically possible outcomes of the terms. Both are definitely shit.
@lydiamalone1859
@lydiamalone1859 Жыл бұрын
Robert Barnes said the same thing!
@dogishappy0
@dogishappy0 Жыл бұрын
Having listened to well over a dozen hours of Steven, Jeremy, and other DW employees speaking on this topic, and then the follow up analysis of the contract by you, Viva, Barnes, Tim cast, Knights Watch, and others, I am fully in Steven's camp on this. First rule of business is you are never paid what you are worth... but I'm not familiar of places that will tolerate a request for double the original offer. So why should anyone tolerate being offered half of what they could negotiate up to? I could go on, but this comment is already long.
@aveygt
@aveygt Жыл бұрын
Crowder is perfectly justified in saying no to the contract. It just means DW and crowder were not a good fit and DW couldn't afford Crowder. where Crowder lost me is when he goes on this crusade against DW. Just because you don't want to sign a contract doesn't mean DW is immoral. and it doesn't justify recording a phone call with his best friend.
@mobiusone6994
@mobiusone6994 Жыл бұрын
@@aveygt Cry harder, Crowder exposed them for doing the same thing to everyone they try and hire on, lowballing, cheating, and lying to everyone they bring, and now doing everything they can to gaslight people into thinking everyone's contract was totally fair because their content creators have been there so long, there's no way they'd think they've been cheated all this time.
@yukiko6137
@yukiko6137 Жыл бұрын
@@aveygt DW is literally claiming to fight left while basically being in bed with them. They quite literally do the bidding of establishment uniparty (no, establishment =/= left)
@jerryjohnson736
@jerryjohnson736 Жыл бұрын
@@aveygt You don't hand a "best friend" a contract like this. This is what you hand to somebody unknown who has no leverage but potential. That, non-incidentally, is also Crowder's entire point on this. You're not collaborating, building, or supporting the conservative movement by exploiting new blood like this. It's a pump and dump business tactic that has no place in the world of conservative rhetoric and principles that Crowder is appealing to.
@ep3lol
@ep3lol Жыл бұрын
You're wrong. Crowder has no business acumen, at least how he tells this story. He is all about the movement (so he says) and that's all well and good, but if DW is going to pay him from revenue generated from a specific source, they either reduce that payment if the revenue decreases or they go oit of business and no one gets paid anything.
@caseysims9879
@caseysims9879 Жыл бұрын
Crowder would have to be stupid to NOT RECORD this multi million dollar deal
@caseysims9879
@caseysims9879 Жыл бұрын
Like REALLY stupid
@donut_42
@donut_42 Жыл бұрын
Precisely this. Now, as a result, Daily Wire has painted themselves into a corner. Everyone sees them for the con-artists they really are.
@kylevernon
@kylevernon Жыл бұрын
He would be a total asshole if he was recording a personal conversation with a friend about family and Christmas and then blindside him with business questions 3 months after the deal fell through. OH WAIT 🤡
@1984Variant
@1984Variant Жыл бұрын
@@kylevernon "It's just business." -God King
@WL1264
@WL1264 Жыл бұрын
And not releasing the whole thing is disingenuous
@tanmanslim
@tanmanslim Жыл бұрын
Does anyone remember machinima???
@GodwynDi
@GodwynDi Жыл бұрын
Yes?
@tanmanslim
@tanmanslim Жыл бұрын
@@GodwynDi just in the realm of shit contracts and owning the content
@kingpolo1920
@kingpolo1920 Жыл бұрын
Mug club should make a documentary about “what’s a low ball” staring DW
@xa5150
@xa5150 Жыл бұрын
"What are principles?" would work too
@fangsvengeful4465
@fangsvengeful4465 Жыл бұрын
@@xa5150 "what are we fighting again" will be the biggest movie they ever make But lets be real The next movie will be "what is an adult human female" By matt walsh Spoiler alert Its a woman
@j.k.4479
@j.k.4479 Жыл бұрын
@@fangsvengeful4465 Honestly, did Candace's and Matt's documentaries show anything we didn't already know?
@fangsvengeful4465
@fangsvengeful4465 Жыл бұрын
@@j.k.4479 thats the question where people realize theyre the ones in it for money and nothing else But nothing will change their mind about it since they think Candace is "this unique strong woman" and think Matt is "standing up for women" But in reality Its "hey pay us, to tell you what you know"
@j.k.4479
@j.k.4479 Жыл бұрын
@@fangsvengeful4465 This, PV is vastly superior to the DW for finding new info. While the hosts just regurgitate known info.
@akirathedon
@akirathedon Жыл бұрын
What got me was Tim Pool saying people fake their live stream numbers I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE AREA LEFT THAT WAS PURE AND SAFE FROM THE FAKEITTILLYAMAKEITEERS 😤
@feintcircles
@feintcircles Жыл бұрын
I lost all respect for my last boss when he gave me the Fake-it-till-you-make-it speech. About a year later he was fired for doing shady stuff and I now have his job. Feels good.
@Doxymeister
@Doxymeister Жыл бұрын
Hey Akira, good to see you and hear from you. How're you and the family doing? Would love to see you on VivaBarnes' Sidebar again, if you can swing it.
@rebchizelbeak5392
@rebchizelbeak5392 Жыл бұрын
“Same boring talking whiteboard” 6:35 Basically everyone at the DW. They say stuff you want to hear, sure. But they ALL say the same thing off the same comments videos, on the same topics.
@GodwynDi
@GodwynDi Жыл бұрын
Increasingly DW hasn't been saying anything I want to hear.
@lydiamalone1859
@lydiamalone1859 Жыл бұрын
They just want to fight a culture war. They won't admit to voter fraud. They support the Ukrainian War. And Ben even declared that employers have a right to mandate the vax. He also insulted people who refused to get the vaccine. I didn't trust him from 2016 when I first started listening to him. I suspected he was a establishment rino suck up back then. I would never pay one penny for daily wire.
@darkma1ice
@darkma1ice Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too, it wasn’t even different takes on the same thing just “hahaha this thing crazy”
@JDAfrica
@JDAfrica Жыл бұрын
It’s part of their official talking points …. Even Jordan Peterson tweeted support for Crowder … and them Shortly after removed the tweet. That is the whole point Steven is making … this is controlled opposition that is working FOR its sponsors and investors. What if DW don’t like a specific political candidate? What if they have a pharmaceutical sponsor … all their creators will have to support the narrative. And they use punitive financial measures to keep their talent in line.
@JohnsonChristopher1
@JohnsonChristopher1 Жыл бұрын
Watched on Rumble, left a like and a comment to help you with the KZfaq Algorithm. God bless...
@TheQuilava96
@TheQuilava96 Жыл бұрын
Make sure to run up the watch time as well, that also helps the algorithm.
@ronswanson1410
@ronswanson1410 Жыл бұрын
Took a shit, felt a Rumble.
@MillywiggZ
@MillywiggZ Жыл бұрын
Did Ben Shapiro cast his eye over this contract? I’m sure he got a gold star for his efforts.
@PlacidDragon
@PlacidDragon Жыл бұрын
Well.. he is one of the (four) owners of Daily Wire, so i am sure that he is very well aware of what their contracts says....
@OliviaNile
@OliviaNile Жыл бұрын
You know you have a solid argument when you have to lean on antisemitism. Pretty gross
@DmitryVerzhutsky
@DmitryVerzhutsky Жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Another gold star joke. You ppl are disgusting... I was on your side for so fuckinh long. Not anymore, im sad ti see we have no friends in america, this place is lost. Good luck to you fuckers. Have fun. Hope you will like what is coming. And center will not be with you. You are just too dumb to realize you cant do shit without center.
@cw3598
@cw3598 Жыл бұрын
😂 where the heck did you pull anti semitism. What a stretch. Shapiro only cares about his slice of the pie. No racial profiling, he has been playing people to get money. Intelligent people like Ben know how to get his pound of flesh.
@genocidehero9687
@genocidehero9687 Жыл бұрын
@@OliviaNile shut up [precious metal]stein
@Blackwing02
@Blackwing02 Жыл бұрын
The money in the term sheet was not Crowder's pay, it was his budget for his content. The penalties in that term sheet apparently added up to more than 100% of his budget. Those penalties seemed way to harsh and one sided in my opinion.
@cw3598
@cw3598 Жыл бұрын
No, the 50 million was his payment. The budget came out of that.
@lordswaine5238
@lordswaine5238 Жыл бұрын
@@cw3598 🤦
@Blackwing02
@Blackwing02 Жыл бұрын
@@cw3598 jfc....that is the same thing.
@JDAfrica
@JDAfrica Жыл бұрын
$63 000 per episode for a staff of 30 workers that LWC employs - he produces all content, films, edits and writes it all. And if DW can’t monitize it - he incurs all the penalties in a disproportional ratio. Add to that 500% increase in ad reads, as well as clauses if one of their sponsors is boycotted in any way. It’s the definition of a predatory contract.
@No-One.321
@No-One.321 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe anyone thinks this contract is ok even as a starting point. Let alone for crowder.
@podfuk
@podfuk Жыл бұрын
Because they knew Crowder is desperate. He lost Blaze contract, he lost mug club, he wanted 30 million a year! Than he bragged how it was not about money. It was DW who said NO to his ridiculous offer, not the other way around, like he is trying to claim.
@j.k.4479
@j.k.4479 Жыл бұрын
@@podfuk Wrong on multiple accounts. If the Daily Wire were the ones to turn down 30 million, why would they offer 50 million? Your comment doesn't even make sense.
@podfuk
@podfuk Жыл бұрын
@@j.k.4479 DW offered 50M for 4 year contract. Crowder wanted 30M a year = 120M for 4 years! Mark Dice made great video about it.
@j.k.4479
@j.k.4479 Жыл бұрын
@@podfuk So you're saying you should sell out your principles, and cater to big tech for money? All whilst claiming to do the opposite?
@podfuk
@podfuk Жыл бұрын
@@j.k.4479 No, Im saying Crowder is full of shit, when he claims it was not about money and he walked away from 50M deal for principles.
@istaphobe
@istaphobe Жыл бұрын
How do you offer someone who’s done the footwork that a beginner hasn’t the same contract?! From a business standpoint J. Boring screwed up. He should’ve known not to throw a beginners offer at him. They could’ve kept it all the same if Jeremy just would’ve recognized crowder now isn’t the same as Matt Walsh coming up. Now they’ve got a ton of attention on their business now that could’ve been avoided if Jeremy would’ve just thought a little. I’d fire him as ceo, like yesterday. This was a severe strategy screw up no matter what side you fall on. Jeremy uses that big brain if his for two seconds this entire thing never happens. Crowder is left with no idea what beginners are offered and never raises hell. That’s grounds for firing at an executive level. Just like we’d all be confounded if an NFL owner offered Patrick Mahomes a rookie deal. We’d be calling for the owner’s head, yet for some reason nobody is holding the executive who made a bonehead strategic play.
@loloholmes2793
@loloholmes2793 Жыл бұрын
Did you happen to catch Crowder's last Election stream where he had DW's crew on for maybe 10 or so minutes? Everyone on DW except Candace was openly condescending to Crowder, like he was the butt of all their interoffice jokes. Why would you enter into a contract with people who openly show disdain for you.
@bastionringworks5165
@bastionringworks5165 Жыл бұрын
Followed up with another mistake by a poor response video outing themselves and hiding the main concern behind big dollar signs and misleading statements, like Crowder only working 4 days a week.
@Mexican-tacobutnotabreakfast1
@Mexican-tacobutnotabreakfast1 Жыл бұрын
I for one am glad the DW business practices have been exposed. And I am not for it, will not monetize them, but I am sure they have their audience regardless.
@canadianeh4792
@canadianeh4792 Жыл бұрын
@@loloholmes2793 They also tried to leave him on hold, with 500k live viewers. I cancelled my DW sub because I have been getting major hollywood scumbag vibes since around the time they moved to Nashville. Candace was mad after Crowder made a Kanye joke.
@dragonkin737
@dragonkin737 Жыл бұрын
what i hate about this are those who are bound by dailywire and are making Crowder out to be a money grubber..... Thank you for showing full context... big sad at Ben and AJW trying to use their platforms to divide us over this.
@Doxymeister
@Doxymeister Жыл бұрын
The left used to rail about tyrannical corporations and the awful business practices. It was one of the few things I agreed with them on. When Occupy Wallstreet was a thing, many of the things they were protesting I actually agreed with them, although I also disagreed on how to solve it. But we did have things in common. Offering talent shit contracts because "it's always been done this way" is crap. Two wrongs don't make a right. Can't believe so many are defending DW over this.
@patrickradcliffe3837
@patrickradcliffe3837 Жыл бұрын
4:55 yeah the "controlled opposition" all those inviduals you just named 12:12 This was where Candace really lost her mind.
@Gotblade
@Gotblade Жыл бұрын
If he jumped through all these hoops he would lose his following for no longer being what they watch him for. That's what they want. To squash independent creators.
@amymusick5455
@amymusick5455 Жыл бұрын
The burden is all on Steven. What risk would DW be taking? This isn't a contract offer, it's a list of threats.
@nealorr5086
@nealorr5086 Жыл бұрын
$50 million for $25 million revenue + the potential of Steven getting off his meds and saying something that really damages the brand.
@amymusick5455
@amymusick5455 Жыл бұрын
@@nealorr5086 $50 million over four years, with Crowder assuming all the production costs (he has his own production company with a staff of 30). Did you even read the offer? They would own him "in perpetuity" Come back when you're informed.
@nealorr5086
@nealorr5086 Жыл бұрын
@@amymusick5455 What are you trying to say? It doesn't matter what Crowder's production costs are, if the Daily Wire offers him $12.5 million a year and receives less than $12.5 million a year back in revenue, then they would lose money, so that's the "risk".' It's a fucking retard festival around here.
@jackjon7763
@jackjon7763 Жыл бұрын
@@nealorr5086 no. 12.5 million with penalties up to 19 million in a year. When mug club alone is around 30 million a year lol. DW is trying to make Steven their slave haha
@amymusick5455
@amymusick5455 Жыл бұрын
@@nealorr5086 If they were anticipating only 12.5 million a year, they wouldn't even have talked to him.
@CraneArmy
@CraneArmy Жыл бұрын
so a canadian and an isreali got in a fight over the business of american politics.
@donlee.4308
@donlee.4308 Жыл бұрын
lmao..
@conniethingstad1070
@conniethingstad1070 Жыл бұрын
if you are in the business of negotiating contracts, you get Steven's point. as a long time realtor, I know how this works or doesn't. Never give a low ball offer up front, make it intriguing and pull in the interest then you iron out the details.
@Matt-yg8ub
@Matt-yg8ub Жыл бұрын
Yeah, offered to buy their $500,000 house for less than 400k, and they won’t bother even responding to you…. Let alone a contract like this that is basically a kick in the junk paying you pennies on the dollar And locking you in to produce almost 1000 episodes for them like a sweatshop.
@lordswaine5238
@lordswaine5238 Жыл бұрын
Well yeah you have to entice them with the carrot not beat them with the stick.
@jamesmurphy.
@jamesmurphy. Жыл бұрын
I love nick. The rant at the end is why. Salute
@istaphobe
@istaphobe Жыл бұрын
Crowder News Network, a CNN that’s palatable, never thought I’d say that.
@PhoebeMc
@PhoebeMc Жыл бұрын
Nicks got 476 THOUSAND viewers & a few over 800 likes. 'Splain that to me!! Never have I seen such a discrepancy between viewers and likes in my entire viewership!!! HIT THAT LIKE BUTTON!! TICKLE IT, SMASH IT, PUSH IT BUT DEPRESS THAT LIKE BUTTON for Nick!!
@jjr1728
@jjr1728 Жыл бұрын
If he puts on that little jewish hat and rubs his hands then I may drop a like. I want to see his Shapiro impression.
@ep3lol
@ep3lol Жыл бұрын
Had to hit dislike on this video.
@Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer
@Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer Жыл бұрын
you can tell anyone defending the daily wires contract terms have already taken the blue pill.
@xa5150
@xa5150 Жыл бұрын
They're a bunch of paper tigers. Principle and integrity mean nothing to them, it seems.
@nophone9311
@nophone9311 Жыл бұрын
It is a shame to see so many creators I previously liked such as Viva and ABL either insult Crowder with no merit or just make this about Crowder wanting money. With how hard they are defending DW it looks like their are on their pay roll.
@carlavegas887
@carlavegas887 Жыл бұрын
Yeah so weird to hear these 2 talk like that. Very sad. Maybe they’ll see another angle, or just wanted to stay on the safe side. At least Barnes still has a based take.
@xa5150
@xa5150 Жыл бұрын
It really makes them appear unprincipled, naïve, and/or like they are limited to first-degree thought.
@emma2370
@emma2370 Жыл бұрын
The insulting thing is very odd. Everyone seems to be taking it too personally. There is no need to act like children about this.
@HBG313
@HBG313 Жыл бұрын
Just exposing themselves
@bastionringworks5165
@bastionringworks5165 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm surprised how many people have those takes and can't seem to see the bigger issue. It's like they get stuck thinking what would they do in that situation.
@batmaninc2793
@batmaninc2793 Жыл бұрын
To those of whom defending the Daily Wire in this situation, I ask you: Would you also defend “Colonel” Tom Parker? He was supposed to be Elvis’ friend, too.
@boomerwow8482
@boomerwow8482 Жыл бұрын
I kinda want to see what happens if there are successful boycotts against DW people. Would Michael Knowles be subject to these cuts and, if so, will he start complaining or leave DW?
@MountainStream
@MountainStream Жыл бұрын
Thanks for yesterday's stream @Rekieta law. I agree with you and Barnes 100% I support Crowder 100% I unfollowed all of DW except Knowles because he didn't get involved and doesn't give me the same vibe the rest have always given off. My ex is a diagnosed narcissist. You HAVE to record them to protect yourself. Otherwise they screw you twice.
@fluffypink6unny
@fluffypink6unny Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@dot_dot_pwn2650
@dot_dot_pwn2650 Жыл бұрын
No double down on your stupidity unfollow knowles too. Lol, name one thing steven crowder has done for the movement besides "change my mind segments." On the other hand, daily wire filed lawsuits against the federal government for jab mandates, they did a blm expose', they created what is a woman, the have been to school boards and spoke at universities. They are the biggest machine in our conservative movement, crowder took an axe to that machine and started siphoning oil for his new machine he's coming out with. Not only is he doing that, he poisoned the other machine by labeling them "big con" and blaming them for our failures. We all have shared interests, the daily wire has every right leaning perspective there is. Candace anti Vax entirely while ben pushed the Vax, for example. All steven had to do was not post a dumb video or come up with the big scheme by labeling all of your allies as enemies. It's insane to me that you all can cheer the splitting of our movement. Is it not disappointing that Tim barely pushed back. This almost implicates Tim. You could theorize based on the timing that Tim was told by crowder he was setting this site up a while ago. Is that why Candace just so happened to be on and crowder right after? Coincidence or nah
@WL1264
@WL1264 Жыл бұрын
Narcissists are the ones who set you up to sound bad, then take bits of that share it instead of the whole thing. And that slave comment isn't a big deal. Brett Cooper is the example.
@truegravee
@truegravee Жыл бұрын
@@WL1264 Remember it is best to travel down the stream then across the Creek
@KaleSerpent
@KaleSerpent Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the recording thing didn't sit right with me, at least in how it seemed to have been made. From what I hear, Crowder called and pretended to be friends and asking about christmas and stuff. If that's true, it's kinda shitty. If it was purely business, then that's a different story. It's to keep record and keep receipts. But really, that was the only thing that didn't sit right with me.
@SaltStorm007
@SaltStorm007 Жыл бұрын
These are some of my favorite videos from Nick💯
@denalinde
@denalinde Жыл бұрын
This issue isn’t confined to left or right, both of which get dinged on a regular basis by YT. I see it happening all over the platform no matter the topic. Creators of all ilk are getting strikes on videos they uploaded years ago, random topics suddenly posing a problem, certain words becoming illegal & God knows what else. I think it’s a great time to find new platforms that allow free thinking/speech, but it’s also past time to stand up to the platforms getting rich off of their ads while demonetizing the creators who make those ads possible.
@nealorr5086
@nealorr5086 Жыл бұрын
They don't run ads if you're demonitized, do they? Crowder's show never has them.
@denalinde
@denalinde Жыл бұрын
@@nealorr5086 They do run ads on demonetized videos &/or demonetized creators. There’s no rhyme or reason to it that I can see.
@nealorr5086
@nealorr5086 Жыл бұрын
@@denalinde Oh, maybe it's like an option that ad buyers are offered... though the legal and moral justification KZfaq has to do that seems to be pretty shaky. Regardless, Crowder would get no money directly from KZfaq, but he does use KZfaq to make money.
@Zowie39
@Zowie39 Жыл бұрын
The thing is you know they know that they are not telling us we know. We end up finding out months and years from then. Starts to sound like main steam media. A lot of it gets boring like changing the channel and parroting the same thing! And then lets not forget the money giving to certain ones to push certain controversial medical practices pushed. I always get the feeling they are acting. This isn't really about anyone in general. I really don't know if he has certain goals. He seems like hes more of a self starter. I couldn't do it if its content goes against my line in the sand. Money corrupts. The left is having fun with this and 'You gotta eat" which tells me they will sell their soul to get the money. It just feels like I'm getting played. That's just me. I like originals and smaller organic companies and just let them free range say what they want. Like Dan Bongino in beginning. When he was by himself he dropped some connect the dots truth bombs. Now its same thing. And he worked with libs with Parler and look what happened with that. Yikes! Found out he was working with very liberal deep paocket folks! You are the only one that's breaking it as he spoke of it. Thank you and very cool to see you on Farrin! So what he builds his own network! See what he does. Now what will p/o me off is he ends up going to DW! Be you! Peace!✌
@julianmoreno6925
@julianmoreno6925 Жыл бұрын
DW posted an hour video and everything I saw was pretty bad, I would not sing a contract like that for any "job", the terms are clearly abusive and it is also blatant from them to post it and say it is alright
@theflaterfapologist99
@theflaterfapologist99 Жыл бұрын
This is what having a soul looks and sounds like. Take notes DW 🔥
@apisme9090
@apisme9090 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I can't love this enough.
@Caderic
@Caderic Жыл бұрын
The DW pays $65,105 per episode. Then they charge $100,000. Hmmmm? Very interesting.
@cid340
@cid340 Жыл бұрын
Shad,'s review was long, but good. There's a couple of spots in it where he gets the numbers mixed up a little bit, likely because he had already looked over it and knew what was going to happen later. But still very good.
@RealJustinReed
@RealJustinReed Жыл бұрын
I've listened to it about a half a dozen times.
@thejohnbeck
@thejohnbeck Жыл бұрын
I had never heard him spaz out like that. It wasa little funny
@cid340
@cid340 Жыл бұрын
@@thejohnbeck Right??? He was losing his 💩! 🤣🤣🤣
@lordswaine5238
@lordswaine5238 Жыл бұрын
His take on this was the best part of the whole thing in my opinion. I only ever paid attention to him for medieval information and sword maintenance stuff... I would never have expected him to get involved in this. It was a don't judge a book by its cover moment and I love it!
@thejohnbeck
@thejohnbeck Жыл бұрын
@@lordswaine5238 a few more pages and he would've stormed the castle
@SaltStorm007
@SaltStorm007 Жыл бұрын
Something we all knew but now has been confirmed 💯Steven was right...that contract was BS! MugClub alone is worth DOUBLE what they offered....300K/+500k paying $69-$99 yr is a HUGE chunk of change and I hope he does it on his own! Ben promoting the jab was all one should need to see/know that they had sold out! Hope that Nick, his family and everyone else watching...ALL have a wonderfully blessed week💯🙏
@williamkettrey206
@williamkettrey206 Жыл бұрын
That's assuming that many people actually pay. Also, it's per year, not month, but that would still be a lot of money if the numbers are believable.
@SaltStorm007
@SaltStorm007 Жыл бұрын
@@williamkettrey206 Appreciate you...I thought I had put ‘Yr’....let me fix that. He 100% has that many people in MugClub and you can’t access anything on MugClub unless you are a member. He has a loyal following that has $. Just look at his shows....they ALWAYS sell out no matter where he goes and he usually adds more. It is easy to see that he has a HUGE @amount of $ behind him. Glad he exposed this BS....his other videos were even better. Forgot to tell you....Hope you and yours have a blessed one💯🙏
@frankwalsh1916
@frankwalsh1916 Жыл бұрын
That $69-$99 is for an annual subscription, not monthly. Great job immediately invalidating your argument. And just to be clear, while I don't like how Crowder has handled this situation, I am more a fan of his than the DW.
@kylevernon
@kylevernon Жыл бұрын
1. Those numbers aren’t even real, it’s pure speculation without any hard evidence. 2. How many of those people already are subscribed to DW+. You’re argument: 💨🏠
@kaeli3952
@kaeli3952 Жыл бұрын
It's if DW allowed people to keep MugClub rates. DW rates start at $120 yr for basic and $240 yr for premium memberships
@NicolePoliskey
@NicolePoliskey Жыл бұрын
To think I found this channel during the Depp trial and realizing that was the least interesting content you have done is exactly why I still am hopeful about creators. This channel is by far the best I have found in many years. Excellent! Continue to be your grifting self, that is entirely welcomed xx
@GilbertCarrizales
@GilbertCarrizales Жыл бұрын
This is why Crowder has always been an OG. A true force in the movement for transparency and liberty. He's willing to call out his own side for the pursuit freedom.
@nealorr5086
@nealorr5086 Жыл бұрын
Or at least to grow an email list.
@cynthiathomas5754
@cynthiathomas5754 Жыл бұрын
Mikhaila doesn't Simp. I dare anyone to take her on. She has lived through H*ll and has more guts than anyone who says that about her.
@Aikurisu
@Aikurisu Жыл бұрын
You know, I've been anti-both TDW and Crowder, but the more that comes to light I'm definitely anti-TDW all the way. I still question Crowder's motives when so many things are in play but I also salute him for revealing TDW's true face. And the sad thing is they could have kept it hidden. Crowder gave them that option but nope! They had to steer their ship right into an iceberg. Reminds me of the classic quote (and forgive me Nick for bringing up Star Wars) when Anakin grilled Obi-wan over how he turned everyone against him. Nope. This is totally on TDW and they deserve all the criticism they get. Crowder is not innocent by any stretch but they truly did this to themselves.
@TheMrsWatcher
@TheMrsWatcher Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Crowder is right
@mithicash1444
@mithicash1444 Жыл бұрын
The most insane clause and what none if DW supporters talk about, is owning his social media accounts in perpetuity... As in forever! That alone is absolutely insane, given that Crowder has spent 10+ years building this thing.
@umbrellacorpsecurity6511
@umbrellacorpsecurity6511 Жыл бұрын
No it's super annoying. You try to "listen" to a 4-5 hour podcast but nooo you can't just lay down and listen you gona get up out of bed and switch it. And to anyone who thinks this is normal and you just "negotiate" the terms with your lawyer, sure sure have fun wasting and paying a lawyer to "Negotiate" a contract for 5 months. That would be the annoying part
@_Skim_Beeble
@_Skim_Beeble Жыл бұрын
I think left and right media are pretty much the same. Lauren Southern quit Blaze because Ezra wanted her to beg viewers for money.
@donkeydeck5263
@donkeydeck5263 Жыл бұрын
It was absolutely an insulting offer and if they start out by giving you an unfair and bottom floor contract it would be nearly impossible to argue up to a rate that values your labor.
@bambadalam91
@bambadalam91 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video 🏆❤
@moremish
@moremish Жыл бұрын
So happy to have rekietas take on this!
@DaJukes
@DaJukes Жыл бұрын
Always consider the JQ.
@joaquingomez780
@joaquingomez780 Жыл бұрын
I watch them from time to time but they are too snobby to my taste
@12monkey57
@12monkey57 Жыл бұрын
The daily wire got outed as scumbags.
@WizardKingCorey
@WizardKingCorey Жыл бұрын
You killed it, awesome 😎
@mastercabbage
@mastercabbage Жыл бұрын
This is an insufferable unfunny object clashing with a soulless corporation. I can’t sympathize with either side. But Crowder was offered a pretty insulting deal.
@TheOrangeRoad
@TheOrangeRoad Жыл бұрын
Crowder has more neocon triats than I care for, but he's absolutely right about boycotting works. If people boycott sponsorships because of Crowder, DW will not pay them. Simple
@kim-jong-poon
@kim-jong-poon Жыл бұрын
Big corn has had it too good for too long in this country! We need to stop big corn!
@SirAngusKhan
@SirAngusKhan Жыл бұрын
I ear ya! Say No to Big Corn!
@Cybeldar
@Cybeldar Жыл бұрын
Internet corn will ruin your marriage.
@ClockCutter
@ClockCutter Жыл бұрын
Big Corn has rigged high fructose corn syrup!
@xa5150
@xa5150 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, your statement is still accurate.
@lung350
@lung350 Жыл бұрын
Cut to OPERATING COST as penalty. It’s absolutely stupid. You want Crowder to produce content but will reduce his operating budget necessary to… produce… content… because essentially somebody got their feefees hurt.
@ffs6158
@ffs6158 Жыл бұрын
Never trust a Shapiro.
@thmsmgnm
@thmsmgnm Жыл бұрын
I would trust Shapiro’s sister 😊
@darkma1ice
@darkma1ice Жыл бұрын
12:00 THANK YOU, AJW was like “Hur dur, it wasn’t perpetually, it was just for the contract length” Like dude, if it WERE only for the contract term it would HAVE STATED AS SUCH
@macedindu829
@macedindu829 Жыл бұрын
It's perpetual for the stuf DW created during the term, not the stuff that pre-existed the contract which DW would assume control over only during the contract term.
@batmaninc2793
@batmaninc2793 Жыл бұрын
@@macedindu829 Then, what would be the point?
@macedindu829
@macedindu829 Жыл бұрын
@@batmaninc2793 controlling what they created, even it if was in his name
@batmaninc2793
@batmaninc2793 Жыл бұрын
@@macedindu829 Watch this video again and Crowder’s appearance on Timcast IRL and Shadiversity’s coverage of the situation on his secondary channel, KNIGHT WATCH. Which includes his response to Ben Shapiro’s (unjustifiable) reaction. They wouldn’t be the ones creating anything, Crowder would. He has his own equipment, his own employees. Who DW tried to poach multiple times, by the way.
@macedindu829
@macedindu829 Жыл бұрын
@@batmaninc2793 control over their asset
@valor1omega
@valor1omega Жыл бұрын
Just proves how slimy and evil DW is. I still can't believe actual AJW can defend this pre-d-atory business practice. And now Jeremy from the Quartering has shifted a little in favor of DW, ugh.
@PNX034
@PNX034 Жыл бұрын
Theres a reason the word "con" is in conservative
@unfollowedreportedbanned
@unfollowedreportedbanned Жыл бұрын
Who is going to take a phone call from him?
@ScorpionP2C
@ScorpionP2C Жыл бұрын
Well hello there! Mug Club!!!
@markphillips2076
@markphillips2076 Жыл бұрын
Nobody has answered the question for me: how can parties to a contract be penalised for the actions of a third party not subject to the same contract? By all means penalise crowder for loss of revenue on DW if they lose advertising revenue on their site. But I can't see how the renumeration terms are based on the actions of third parties neither crowder or DW have influence or control over.
@bastionringworks5165
@bastionringworks5165 Жыл бұрын
This.
@lydiamalone1859
@lydiamalone1859 Жыл бұрын
Yes. From what I am hearing very few conservatives are making any money on YT
@ep3lol
@ep3lol Жыл бұрын
DW brings in $10 from Crowder's KZfaq and $10 from Black Rifle Coffee sponsorinng Crowder. DW pays Crowder $15. BRC cancels their contract because Crowder said he likes Starbucks or whatever. How is this supposed to work if DW does not reduce Crowder's fee? DW needs to replace the sponsor? It's in this term sheet that they will try.
@derrickcrowe3888
@derrickcrowe3888 Жыл бұрын
@@ep3lol Alternative scenario: Crowder does the job he is being paid to do and gives standard conservative takes consistent with DW's own. People on Twitter make a stink and an advertiser caves to the pressure and pulls out. Crowder is now being paid less because he did his job the way his employers wanted him to. Second alternative scenario: Crowder plays nice and offends no one. Candace Owens says something stupid that causes advertisers to drop DW as a whole. Crowder is now being paid less because of something Candace did. Both of these scenarios can happen under the terms DW sent him, and they're both garbage.
@ep3lol
@ep3lol Жыл бұрын
@@derrickcrowe3888 How are they supposed to pay him? Print their own money? Maybe if he actually cared about "the movement" he should work for free?
@denasewell
@denasewell Жыл бұрын
Crowder has made a compelling argument for Independent Conservative Creators!
@barrel42
@barrel42 Жыл бұрын
Nick, you've polished the Crowder knob to a shine.
@chanceschofield9324
@chanceschofield9324 Жыл бұрын
where's the reaction to the timcast/crowder part though, Nose?
@GodwynDi
@GodwynDi Жыл бұрын
Was on Rumble already, watched it earlier today, with Barnes as a guest. Great segment.
@chanceschofield9324
@chanceschofield9324 Жыл бұрын
@@GodwynDi Nose said he hadn't seen the Timcast Crowder appearance yet, on the show with Barnes, he said he might go over it the next day
@cloudfire181
@cloudfire181 Жыл бұрын
A great/good friend would never give you a contract that The Daily Wire first offered to Steven. Ben talked about Steven not knowing Business, Negotiations, and Friendship/Decency. Last time I check F***ing someone over wasn't a decency thing to do especially if they're a friend of yours. Barnes and you are right Nick on this one.
@watermelonsalesman
@watermelonsalesman Жыл бұрын
negotiating a contract isn't f***ing someover you ret*rd
@cloudfire181
@cloudfire181 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but the initial offer is trying to f*** someone over. They weren't willing to negotiate on the terms of the contract as soon as crowder came back with a counter DW left. Also I never said negotiating a contract is f***ing someone over. Why don't you read before you type.
@watermelonsalesman
@watermelonsalesman Жыл бұрын
They don't have to counter, it's a free country. He immediately came off to them like a giant baby and they ran way. People acting like this unfunny brat is entitled to rake in $100 million from DW is just amazing.
@cloudfire181
@cloudfire181 Жыл бұрын
Funny because no one is saying he's entitle to 100 mil just that he is worth that much accord to Jeremy from DW. Which is why they Lowballed SC incredibly low and included provisions in their offer that would be given to an enemy not a friend. The fact is Steven never attack anyone's character at the DW, they attacked his character. They never truly want to do a fair deal just a one side contract that hurt the talent and never punishes the Buyer. That the truth so go back to DW+ and keep purchasing that sub like a good little pay pig.
@watermelonsalesman
@watermelonsalesman Жыл бұрын
LOL they were insulting him by offering him $50mil. It's hilarious to watch you guys bend into pretzels to defend this cowardly brat.
@marisagomez281
@marisagomez281 Жыл бұрын
Funny watching so many grown men whine on the very platforms they claim to be fighting against
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 Жыл бұрын
Short n sweet contracts is what u want.
@cid340
@cid340 Жыл бұрын
Most people seem to overlook the fact that those terms have Crowder paying for his own production. That includes paying a staff of 25 to 30 people.
@nealorr5086
@nealorr5086 Жыл бұрын
That;s like 8 people and 20 people who on occasion do a couple hours of work.
@cid340
@cid340 Жыл бұрын
@@nealorr5086 I'm assuming you've run a production company on that level, since you seem to know better than what Crowder and Tim Pool have stated. Since they've both done it, I assumed they knew what they were talking about. I was mistaken?
@patmaloney1140
@patmaloney1140 Жыл бұрын
Based shyster lawyer is based.
@Notdatblkgirl
@Notdatblkgirl Жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@curtisterry8258
@curtisterry8258 Жыл бұрын
You should watch the interview on TimcastIRL
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