People have the term Latino all wrong. Latino refers to the languages that derive from Latin. Which are Spanish, French, Portuguese and Italian. So Spanish speakers, also ppl who speak creole (which comes from french) such as Haiti. And also portuense speaking countries in America such as brazil. So DR and PR are both Latinos because they speak a Latin derived language, but they are also Hispanic because it refers to spanish speaking countries and they are also Caribbeans geographically speaking. Now you can be hispanic and Latino at the same time, but you can also be a Latino and not a Hispanic (such as Haiti and Brazil) which are both Latinos because their language comes from Latin.

I really enjoyed and learned from this conversation. Jose is so thoughtful in how they communicate subjects that can be hard to understand. ❤

This was an amazing conversation! I’ve been waiting for this! Thank you thank you. I felt this so much as a brown girl with Dominican roots.

Is a very interesting conversation. I’m Puertorriqueño, and I have lived my whole life here in the island. To me being Hispanic has more to do with culture than race. Here in the island we have white, brown, black, and even Asian people and all of them are puertorriqueños. We do have a racism problem that stems from colonization, but I feel over the years with much education and celebration of each part of ourselves (native, black and whites Europeans from Spain) we have a somewhat unique culture that makes us… us. So I think Latino, Hispanic is more rooted to that. The culture. Mexicans, Centroamérica, South America have a multitude of different Latino cultures.

I wonder what the panel's take is on John Leguizamos work and documentaries on Latino culture and History

Okay part two!!!!!

Thank you all so so much for the discussion. We all have such a diverse experience it’s so interesting to learn.

Since there are 33 countries in Latin America that are filled with various cultural, ethnic, and racial backgrounds I believe the term(s) is not an appropriate term to decribe people who live in or are of latin american decent. It's a geographic location. I do understand that Latinx/e was created to be more inclusive. Although it isn't a term(s) that I necessarily feel like I have to use or need. I appreciate what it was intended for and understand the need for it. It was a good step forward for inclusivity. What I've noticed is that the terms Latino/Hispanic often give white people a space to avoid owning their whiteness and the historical context as it relates to Latin America. They are able to use latindad as a way to avoid understanding their role in and how they benefit from white supremacy. As well as how they have and benefit from white privilege (as white people, not white passing people). I think latino is used by some because it is "simpler" when describing themselves to others who aren't. This was an interesting conversation. As a Black Dominican American I feel no need to use Latino/Hispanic outside of the way that I mentioned above that makes it "easier". I tend to identify as my race and nationality. My race comes first given the world we live in today. Often latindad doesn't understand that and as mentioned in the video Black people are often left out of latindad. I think everyone needs to choose a term that fits their identity (hispanic, latino or latinx) but they should be aware of the messages they send when using them.

I use to think listen if you can not Speak Spanish, Spanglish, Cook Comida Latina or Know How to Dance Salsa, Merengue, Kumbia or Bachata then you can not say your Latino or Latina. There is no excuses to learn the basics of 1 thing. Pero now why judge help them out with their best interest and strengthen it. It takes Willingness and A Village to make OUR Diversified Culture Thrive.

I agree with Jose. Our fight for inclusivity and pushing back against oppression will not happen with Latinix as the vehicle. It happens with struggle and activism. And we can’t avoid gendered language since it is totally integrated into the Spanish language. This is not a straight argument. It’s about being practical.

Great discussion as always. For me i will never understand the logic behind people thinking or identifying latino/hispanic as a race. Latino for me ist just like Arab, Turkic, Slavic, Germanic, Bantu, Indo-Iranian or even how Africans would refer to others as "francophone". Its just a term used to generalise a group of people based on linguistic. The only thing truly seperating us from North Americans is that our countries were colonized by latin countries instead of germanic ones. I dont even think Latino can be referred to as a culture or ethnicity (although i would always argue that its an ethnicity and NOT a race lol) since all latin countries have a different culture, demographic (in terms of who represents a majority/minority and in terms of influence), history, cuisine etc. As someone who is half Brazilian and Puertorican ethnically speaking i dont find myself to have more in common with Argentinians, bolivians, Mexicans, Costa Ricans. I dont think "Latino" would even be a thing if it wasnt for white americans wanting to seperate themselves from white latinos whilst setting themselves as the standard for "white culture" in the Americas . Ask for who "counts" as latino. I think in ppl of the "new world" often have a difficult time understanding the difference between nationality, race and ethnicity. What language some does or does not speak has no influence on and has nothing to do with their ethnicity lol. By that logic, lets call everyone who speaks english Germanic Just imo, latinos who never had to think of race or how to identify usually never had to because they represent or look like the majority in their country. E.g. in Brazil nobody who is white or looks mixed identifies with their actual race, they'll just say they are brazilian but black people are always "afro-" or Black and natives will always be specific about what the are. Jamaica (not latin but as an example) Black people are the majority so they dont have to think about their race, they are just jamaican. However those who are mixed with Indian or chinese, or those who are just indian etc all have specific racial terms.

This was a great conversation and I wish there were more opportunities for these types of dialogues to be had among a diverse diaspora

Para los Norteamericanos, porfavor no nos digan LatinX, no nos gusta, suena raro, no puede pronunciarse en nuestro idioma y Twitter ya les está corrigiendo que nos ofende a más del 40% de los latinoamericanos y a solo el 2% le gusta esa palabra, Gracias por su comprensión ❣

I love learning thru you beautiful people. So enlightening.

Great talk❤

Love this beautiful black podium🙏🏽🙌🏽❤️✊🏽

love the content!

“I know the oppression of my skin more than the joy of my skin” ohhh I felt that in my soul. ❤️‍🩹

Gracias camarada..✊🏾🌹🧿

Hola! I can totally appreciate this entire conversation and I feel that we need to continue to have more conversations in a very informative way. I can appreciate everyone on this panel and all of your views and contributions to this topic. However, I do have an issue with the way the conversation was framed with "LATINOENOUGH." We can certainly acknowledge that this was a trending phrase on social media that influenced this episode however, we also have the opportunity to rephrase and recorrect to drive the conversation towards the root of Latinidad rather than to feed into the toxic intension behind "LATINOENOUGH." Again, I love that these conversations are being had and that we are literally experiencing all of the ways in which Latinos are so extremely diverse. It's beautiful! ❤

It depends on how you define Latin are you using it as a geographical nomenclature or language root nomenclature? With the term Hispanic it literally refers to anyone from a region or land colonized by spain. It’s so weird how people try to skew and shrink the qualifications just to cut people out. A lot of black Latinos/Hispanics are pushed out of the culture simply because of how they present especially when they’re “mixed” but it’s not the accepted version of being “mixed” such as black Haitian + black boricua or black Cuban + black American or black Colombian +black Canadian which is unfortunate.

I think a lot of people need to learn that google and research is a thing because latino was coined by the french when they colonised parts of south and central america (including the islands around) and it referred to the countries that now spoke the “romance languages” or in other words the latin based languages of french, spanish and portuguese. This makes guadeloupéens, Martinique’s and haitians latino. (There are some others but I forgot). My dudes it’s a simple google search away.

What would have made this even more inclusive and interesting is if you had a Haitian and a Brazilian on the panel. Since they're not hispanic, these two groups typically get left out of the latino conversation entirely. Being latino is not only about the geographical regions, but also about the fact that your colonial language is derived from the latin language. @letemknowzo actually made a video about it. Still, great episode.

What are Latinas,Hispanics or Puerto rican? What is your DNA structure?

Nobody ever included equatorial guinea in these conversations which is actually interesting if the only thing that links us is the Spanish language.

Greatings from Guatemala in here Latinos or Hispanic are only if you are half native American and European.

the girl did not even ask them were these folks what country they were born. if you call your self mexican then you were born in mexico but if you are born in the USA from mexican parents then your Chicanos, Hispanics, Latinos. please every one knows latinx is from the gay community. so please dont call us that it is an insult.

I just want to make sure I understand this space. Is it only for queer folk and straight women ie no straight men allowed? Maybe it’s just the recent episodes but the guests seems to skew only one way

The only problem here is that all of this is influenced by american culture, and its not really inclusive to the true language and culture of latin america. That is not to say that there are racial, sexist and even classist problems, but at least there needs to be an understanding of their culture before freating inclusive language that already exists in the first place.

We should not forget white Latinos who have white descendants,eg. people whose parents are both white from Latin America. In addition there are also white european immigrants(spaniards,portuguese,italian,french and german) who live in Latin America. They have kids among themselves or with white Latinos

Oop

Nobody was made uncomfortable by his super short revealing shorts? 😳

Can someone explain how people from DR and PR Latino? If they aren’t from Latin America? aren’t they Caribbean? Or are that considers Latino because that speak Spanish?

Study history...labels white black other

Latin usually refers to people from Latin America, Cuba, República Dominicana and Puerto Rico, but it can also refer to Countries such as Brazil who speak one of the Romance Languages like Portuguese, Spanish, French, Italian or Romanian. Where's Hispanic specifically Identifies with people who speak Spanish or who's countries were once part of Spain. If you're born in the US to Latino parents, you are still Latino. No one can take your ethnicity away from you. If you don't speak Spanish again you are still Latino, but you will need to do your homework...lol Being Latino today has no color, Cultural Identity defines you. The Roman Empire doesn't exist anymore, the Latin identity changed centuries ago after Conquest and Colonialism! Being Indigenous is not a prerequisite for being Latino. LatinX is a joke.. it's a lot of blah blah blah, you're either Latino or Latina!

I’m glad y’all are sticking together. Black Americans are trying to separate from one another

Why not talk about the anti blackness in Latin America? If u have some black features, then there is no way u could be Latin if u are dark

Hispanics are people from Spain. Only people in Spain or of Spanish descent can be Hispanic. If you are black you are not Hispanic. If you have indigenous roots you are not Hispanic. Latinos are people from Rome. They are the Latins who later created the Roman Empire. If you are black, once again you can not be Latino as it is an ethnic group from Italy. If you are indigenous, you can not be Latino. Speaking Spanish or Living in the Americas does not make you Latino. It makes you American. If you are from Mexico you are Mexican no matter your race or ethnic group. If you live in the USA, you are American from the USA, no matter your race or your ethnic group. Stop using the wrong terminology and you will figure out the truth.

The mind of those people will blow when they learn that Haitian are Latinos too😂😂😂😂.