Survivor Items from Best to Worst

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Scott Jund

Scott Jund

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@TarterSAWSE
@TarterSAWSE 3 жыл бұрын
The firecracker is the best item because you can blind other survivors
@MyLullabye
@MyLullabye 3 жыл бұрын
+750 blinded Dwight Fuck Dwight
@flyinggoat9155
@flyinggoat9155 3 жыл бұрын
+yourself
@UnicaLuce
@UnicaLuce 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyLullabye me a dwight: once you're in my locker, you're not coming out :D
@Zeus-sv6wi
@Zeus-sv6wi 3 жыл бұрын
Someone blinded me when my ds skill check came up, was ruff
@Logdine
@Logdine 3 жыл бұрын
I've blinded myself more than others
@jakeperkovich5181
@jakeperkovich5181 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Scott, Will O' Wisp is the best item ever created. The amount of times the killer has immediately dc-ed in sheer fright of my funny ghost are staggering.
@darthsilversith667
@darthsilversith667 3 жыл бұрын
Are you drunk?
@ArgumentStarterr
@ArgumentStarterr 3 жыл бұрын
Darth Silver Sith are you?
@angieroxx1006
@angieroxx1006 3 жыл бұрын
I find them really effective if you say boo as you shine the ghost on him. Dc 60% of the time everytime.
@darthsilversith667
@darthsilversith667 3 жыл бұрын
Cheems Yes
@Camden1609
@Camden1609 3 жыл бұрын
It also considerably increases friendly ghosts in your life which is kinda fucking op
@lowenevvan8619
@lowenevvan8619 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the Firecrackers. Easily S Tier. It turns the entire idea of DBD on it's head by jumpscaring the killer.
@gamingmaster6377
@gamingmaster6377 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, the entire DbD concept is 4 bloodthirsty survivors against a local man that attacks out of fear
@Chaosrain112
@Chaosrain112 3 жыл бұрын
i can count the number of times i've shit my pants when some random meg with 300ms teleports to shack pallet from behind a wall and jumpscares me with that
@FabricatedPheonix
@FabricatedPheonix 3 жыл бұрын
gamingmaster It is very clearly all in self defense
@retnuHDJ
@retnuHDJ 3 жыл бұрын
Where do Firecrackers even come from? I've never found one in a bloodweb
@FabricatedPheonix
@FabricatedPheonix 3 жыл бұрын
retnuHDJ They were a special item for an event
@matheusgamer5
@matheusgamer5 3 жыл бұрын
Scott: Ranking all 5 survivor itens Firecracker: Silently cries in the corner
@nocommentary9928
@nocommentary9928 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Medkits being the strongest. I ALWAYS bring in at least a brown medkit with no addons. Its handy having a quick self heal on demand. its saved my ass many times and poop medkits are so abundant you never run out. Really no reason not to bring one.
@thisisiampie6946
@thisisiampie6946 3 жыл бұрын
@L0gicz if I see 4 medkits I whip out speed limiter broken status bubba.
@NinjarioPicmin
@NinjarioPicmin 3 жыл бұрын
@@thisisiampie6946 is that more useful then a normal insta down? i can't imagine how right now
@dalf_souls2199
@dalf_souls2199 3 жыл бұрын
6 brown medkits, 73 brown toolboxes on my highly levelled claudette
@soleo2783
@soleo2783 3 жыл бұрын
@@NinjarioPicmin It's speed limiter, all builds with speed limiter are for the memes
@AirLight1646
@AirLight1646 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t bring items ever because I always hoard consumables in games
@xyex
@xyex 3 жыл бұрын
Engineer's Toolbox with double charge add-ons and Streetwise. Over half of a gen (45 charges) in just 22.5 seconds. Honestly more dangerous and terrifying than a BNP. BNP is only 20 charges in 5 seconds. The Engineer's can hit 20 in 10 seconds and then still keep going. Built to Last is going to make it even more amazing.
@Darkstorm77
@Darkstorm77 3 жыл бұрын
10:23 cat sneak attack
@olive1781
@olive1781 3 жыл бұрын
👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨
@Rabbit-o-witz
@Rabbit-o-witz 3 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong, she is pretty strong imho
@topsgaming4266
@topsgaming4266 3 жыл бұрын
She's pretty strong but against a good team who cleanse when there's like 2 to 1 gen left, and right after you get the blood pool they start stealthing. There's not much a plague player can do. Most survs don't play this optimally thank god but there are squads who play smart against plagues.
@Blackzxr
@Blackzxr 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Medkits can still be useful for picking up your teammates
@Rabbit-o-witz
@Rabbit-o-witz 3 жыл бұрын
@@topsgaming4266 I mean, survivors can beat every killer (except Nurse and a god spirit) if they want to. They ARE the power role
@thatguymichael595
@thatguymichael595 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rabbit-o-witz no they're just in control if all 4 play optimally. That's kinda how it's supposed to work
@CelsiusNK
@CelsiusNK 3 жыл бұрын
I get so sick of people's excuse for franklins to be because ONE person brought a flashlight. It's like "you essentially wasted an entire perk slot to stop 1 dude from using his flashlight that is already a terrible item?" Killer: "yes"
@pipeamaya7757
@pipeamaya7757 3 жыл бұрын
And why would u ask?
@AnodyneRain
@AnodyneRain 3 жыл бұрын
So then it’s not a waste. If the killer wants to bring it for one flashlight then that’s their choice
@Brunerth
@Brunerth 3 жыл бұрын
haha flashlight to *cllcclclcclclccllcclcclclccllclcclclclclccl*
@MordeanSchein
@MordeanSchein 3 жыл бұрын
As a Hag main, yes I will bring Franklins for a single flashlight.
@nburtoninferno
@nburtoninferno 3 жыл бұрын
I like to bring Franklins for the tilt factor
@kianh4503
@kianh4503 3 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why does scott only use the majala theme as his background music?
@traister101
@traister101 3 жыл бұрын
He likes it that and he probably just slaps it in his editing program and calls it a day
@AAlnaggar002
@AAlnaggar002 3 жыл бұрын
Oliver Traister not entirely sure but I think he also played Dark Souls II
@Shnowz
@Shnowz 3 жыл бұрын
@@AAlnaggar002 jund was a ds2 pvp god
@ScottJund
@ScottJund 3 жыл бұрын
I got my start streaming with Dark Souls 2
@hunterlurvey698
@hunterlurvey698 3 жыл бұрын
Because if it ain't broke, don't fix it
@ehoffart529
@ehoffart529 3 жыл бұрын
I allow all survivors that offer me a map to escape. I love me a tasty burrito.
@wormiefolk2153
@wormiefolk2153 3 жыл бұрын
if that brown toolbox is anywhere but the top i'm gonna start crying
@wormiefolk2153
@wormiefolk2153 3 жыл бұрын
i'm crying
@dustinsterling3248
@dustinsterling3248 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the follow-up
@otherguyjo1684
@otherguyjo1684 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I'd say the majority of killers bring franklins as soon as they notice a flashlight. In fact last week this camping doctor brought franklins JUST FOR ME and I was the only one who brought an item. I was cracking up so hard but I also felt honored.
@Shadow77999
@Shadow77999 3 жыл бұрын
I only bring it if i see an entire lobby of flashlights or a key with a map
@surreox
@surreox 3 жыл бұрын
I mean killers can forget to take it off, I have brought Franklins against teams with no items a couple times by mistake
@otherguyjo1684
@otherguyjo1684 3 жыл бұрын
@@surreox I don't doubt the possibility of this happening. But I'm willing to bet at the very LEAST 95% of the time, bringing Franklin's is intentional.
@Arnichoutoutou
@Arnichoutoutou 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, broken key is so broken, it should be nerf, you can’t even compare it to skeleton key with how broken broken key is smh 🤦🏻‍♂️
@KirkPwns
@KirkPwns 3 жыл бұрын
For sure. I mean its literally in the name of the item for a reason. The devs knew what they were doing.
@iiedog
@iiedog 3 жыл бұрын
But broken keys can’t open the hatch are you stupid!?
@Blackzxr
@Blackzxr 3 жыл бұрын
GBR_Edog bruh are you stupid? That’s the joke idiot
@Jotthew55
@Jotthew55 3 жыл бұрын
@@iiedog Someone doesn't know what a joke is
@muffy7323
@muffy7323 3 жыл бұрын
@@iiedog I hope you are joking, no one is this stupid.
@Signe812
@Signe812 3 жыл бұрын
"bringing in a flashlight is terrible" Me, a baby killer hag main who dodges lobbies with more than two flashlights: Ah yes, such a garbage item. Klicky-klicky.
@thekamotodragon
@thekamotodragon 3 жыл бұрын
if you just started playing then i understand, but once you get more killers/perks, then you can take my advise on this, which is, if you see 4 people join your lobby at the same time, all w/ flashlights, then don't be afraid, just switch to spirit w/mori or huntress w/iri head and you'll still have fun and never feel bullied even once that game, real simple :)
@SilastheMatchmaker
@SilastheMatchmaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@thekamotodragon lol I hope this is a joke considering you can't even switch killers when you get in a lobby with survivors anymore, and since that's just a scummy thing to do lol
@jallybwan3767
@jallybwan3767 3 жыл бұрын
Hey friendo, if you need a guide on how to Hag I recommend this one by Michi: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d75ldKqCzrSvl2Q.html Edit before I forget: You deal with flashlights (and people running through your web while you're occupied) by being as unpredictable as you possibly can. That's when you know you've become a good Hag - when flashlights stop bothering you ^^ (except when they have Object, that actually does shut her down)
@Signe812
@Signe812 3 жыл бұрын
@@jallybwan3767 That's so sweet of you! I have already watched Michi's videos, he has really inspired me to step up my hag game. Very appreciated though!
@Signe812
@Signe812 3 жыл бұрын
@@thekamotodragon That would also mean having to learn huntress. She is crazy difficult in my opinion and she doesn't really suit the way I like to play killer. And I don't have spirit. I honestly think she is a very unfun killer to go against. I think mories are really unfair as well. I kinda just want everyone to have a fun time so I don't like using overpowered add-ons or offerings.
@avalope
@avalope 3 жыл бұрын
What Scott doesn’t know is that flash light clicking grants a 10% haste status for ten seconds after 3 or more clicks
@Zayette
@Zayette 3 жыл бұрын
I play with friends that rarely bring items, myself included. I kinda wanna start bringing flashlights in every game, with my teammates, to trick the killer into wasting a perk slot on Lightborn, cause we wouldn’t ever use the flashlights.
@sebastienriou6603
@sebastienriou6603 3 жыл бұрын
Flashlights are the 3rd best items in the game after keys and medkits imo. A good player with a flashlight can completely ruin a decent killer's day. When you say that it's better to have no item than a flashlight, your conflating the item with a particular playstyle. Just because someone has a flashlight doesn't mean they will be wasting their time chasing after injured survivors. 1. Good players can sprint from unexpected angles and guarantee a flashlight save if the survivor is out in the open 2. good players can hit locker saves wit flashlights 3. CJ tech, when pulled off correctly, there's nothing the killer can do Flashlights can also be used effectively in 1v1 scenarios (espcially with iron will) 1. You can blind the killer while they're vaulting or breaking a pallet and window tech them or run through the pallet with iron will. They will either lose you or waste a lot of time 2. A flashlight blind after a pallet stun forces strong killers like spirit to break pallets as they are blinded and there's no point mind gaming 3. Ayrun's trick where he stuns the killers, blinds them, and slow vaults over the pallet while they try to break it is reeeeaaally strong Flashlights are extremely strong in the right hands
@MWalkah
@MWalkah 3 жыл бұрын
Aside from everything else, I have to disagree with your 3rd initial point. For a CJ Tech to be even possible, the killer has to make a mistake of trying to break a pallet when he simply shouldn't do it. A good enough killer has to expect a potential CJ, so yes, there is something a killer can do: not break the pallet and just hit the stunner as he stupidly throws himself at you after your stun is over.
@sebastienriou6603
@sebastienriou6603 3 жыл бұрын
@@MWalkah That's a good point, at least for safe pallets they will likely try to break the pallet
@tgtorquez456
@tgtorquez456 3 жыл бұрын
1.the key words here are “out in the open”, which is realistically not always going to happen, and when it does happen usually the survivor with a flashlight won’t be close unless they were following the person that is getting chased, which wastes time overall because they could be doing gens. And am aware killer will likely have a rough idea where the flashlight user is and turn the opposite direction 2. I can kinda agree with you here, but it only really happens in a swf or if the survivor with a flashlight is following the chase. it also only works on loops with lockers, albeit they’re not very rare. 3. Yeah super no on that one, if you get into that extremely rare scenario for a cj tech, just don’t break the pallet instantly, either they survivor fucks off or you get an easy hit on the idiot who vaults trying to cj tech. It’s super easy to counter if you play killer enough. Your points on the 1v1 are more valid, but realistically you’re wasting as much distance blinding them as the distance you’re getting, unless the killer completely loses you, which shouldn’t happen unless you’re using a vault build and you blind the killer while they’re pallet stunned. Blinding after pallet stunning doesn’t force the pallet break either, because you only have to wait like 2 seconds to not be blinded anymore and likely the survivor will stay on the loop, and if they don’t you’ll hear them run away and if the pallet isn’t safe you’ll leave it, and if it is safe you’d be breaking it regardless on if you were blinded or not
@RandomPerson-yq1qk
@RandomPerson-yq1qk 3 жыл бұрын
How can the killer not do anything against a CJ tech? The survivor must press to vault before the killer presses to kick so the mindgame should be 100% in the killers favor if they are aware of the CJ tech. Also for 99% of pallets you can just chase around the pallet and kick while the survivor is not at the opposite side of the pallet.
@gabrielgaldino9306
@gabrielgaldino9306 3 жыл бұрын
"a good player with a flashlight can ruin a decent killer's day" well that isn't a fair comparison, and what does it matter shitting on "decent" killers? a good survivor with no mither can trash a average killer. So my counter arguments will be using a good survivor against a good killer, that know what is he doing. Regarding your first points 1. Unless the killer faces a wall, or do a quick 180, or doesn't succesfully bait a pickup, and he doesn't remember seeing flashlights in the lobby beforehand, and so on, meanwhile when you are waiting behind a wall to try a flashlight save, instead of doing gens or something more useful, that's why flashlight saves are not that good, since they are very unreliable, but if you get it, it's nice and kinda good, but most of the cases, the time sacrificed to do it, isn't worth it. 2.Again you need to be very close and in a very specific angle, unless you are waiting for your swf to be picked up from a locker you know where it is, is extremely unreliable, and IF you manage to do it once, the killer will be very suspicious when a survivor suddenly jumps into a locker, he will look around and probably find you, and then he is chasing 2 people at the same time. 3. The CJ tech is so specific that i'ts almost impossible to do it normally,since (1)you need to have a flashlight (2) you need to stun a killer (3)you need to have a down survivor on the other side of the pallet, and after all that specific preparation, the killer can wait like 1 second after the stun, and you jump into his loving embrace, granting him a free hit, or he could play the pallet if it's an unsafe one, so saying there is nothing a killer can do against a CJ tech, it's like, super wrong. Now regarding your 1v1 scenarios 1.Blinding killers while they're vaulting doesn't work that well, since you have to be kinda far from the window, and there are some ways to prevent window tech, like moonwalking, so if the survivors window techs you, you will see them, and regarding blinding while they break a pallet, even with iron will they can hear your footsteps, see where your scrathmarks are going,etc, maybe , if you are lucky, you get like a 2 second advantage, which is worse than just running away when you see the killer break the pallet. 2. OR... they can just look down, and try to chase you around the pallet,and after the blind is over, they use their power. (also how hard is to get a (good) spirit pallet stun? pretty hard if ya ask me) 3.Again, they can hear your slow vaulting,and they can see that the prompt command to break the pallet is gone, and they aren't breaking the pallet, so the survivor slow vaulted it, and you can throw a swing ( the only way i see this working is if the survivor has quick and quiet, but again, you would make more distance just running away, and it would only work once, since the killer would remember it) And don't get me wrong, flashlights are the most fun survivor item to use, and kinda okay-ish sometimes, but saying they are EXTREMELY strong, even on the best survivor's hands, is very wrong.
@JustMillie23
@JustMillie23 3 жыл бұрын
this was helpful. Now I know what items to use in a swf! Thanks Scott!
@lookyoureontv
@lookyoureontv 3 жыл бұрын
NOOOOO SCOTT IS NOW A SMOOTH FACE
@fourtrash2598
@fourtrash2598 3 жыл бұрын
Clean shaven go brrrrrr
@djohnthesalty
@djohnthesalty 3 жыл бұрын
Flashlights aren't that powerful until you understand how to abuse them. In a SWF, they're deadly. Lockers are an instant loss chase if someone is near with a flashlight. You HAVE to respect someone getting into a locker somewhere like killer shack if there's someone with a flashlight nearby. While true it means that 2 survivors aren't doing gens, it still means an instantly lost chase, which can be devastating against killers without an instadown mechanic. Against some swfs, they'll force a pallet kick, blind you, pick up a slugged survivor with soul guard and make a little distance. They can basically force you to look down at any point in time. They can commit three people to a gen and insta blind on countdown. In fact, many can commit to a gen very easily, since a gen grab is impossible against flashlights. Forcing medium vault grabs, locker grabs, hook grabs can be used effectively. All it takes is coordination. In practice, flashlights are a pretty weak item. However, theoretically they have the most potential and dynamic playstyle. Medkits and toolboxes will always be consistent, but a single good flashlight play can instantly win a game. with coordination and practice, the variables can be tweeked to put a shit ton of pressure on the killer. All it takes is 2 competent loopers supporting eachother. Plus, incorporating deadhard into flashlight play can be amazing. The ability to instantly turn can be used to set up very creative deadhards. A lot of the time, dead hard doesn't even achieve its purpose as a distance closer because you couldn't angle it correctly. With a flashlight, you can slide against walls and past them easily. You can fake half a blind, then when the killer looks down you can 180 dead hard to bait a swing (it's worked 90% of the time against 1000+ hours killers under the right situation). you can get a fast vault from an extremely close angle by turning your character around with the flashlight after vaulting, making t and L walls relatively safe. It's insane how much tech potential the item has, which makes watching people waste the juice on things like simple window vaults painful. I've basically spent my entirety of my playtime experimenting with flashlight tech, and it can be extremely fun. (I've never set a spam click bind tho, dwbi).
@kermoots9261
@kermoots9261 3 жыл бұрын
Survivors: *Brings medkits* Me: *Laughs in Plague*
@artyom1792
@artyom1792 3 жыл бұрын
two medkits working on the same gen
@artyom1792
@artyom1792 3 жыл бұрын
5:00
@dustinsterling3248
@dustinsterling3248 3 жыл бұрын
Survivors are getting extra crafty these days
@supersince3158
@supersince3158 3 жыл бұрын
They heal the gen after it get damaged
@supersince3158
@supersince3158 3 жыл бұрын
Its so good against ruin
@Jotthew55
@Jotthew55 3 жыл бұрын
Went to the comments to see if someone else picked up on this. Was not disappointed
@dusttheotter4000
@dusttheotter4000 3 жыл бұрын
*“You can’t use Toolboxes the entire match, now.”* Me: *Laughs in Wire Spool/Swivels, Streetwise, Built To Last, Prove Thyself
@pontiffsulyvahn7442
@pontiffsulyvahn7442 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a Otter fursona? :D
@christianoboyle8104
@christianoboyle8104 3 жыл бұрын
Don't communicate with these things
@GoodbyeMonika
@GoodbyeMonika 3 жыл бұрын
Christian Oboyle LMAO
@dusttheotter4000
@dusttheotter4000 3 жыл бұрын
Christian Oboyle you already did by replying.
@dusttheotter4000
@dusttheotter4000 3 жыл бұрын
Junko Enoshima yep
@jinhunson3948
@jinhunson3948 3 жыл бұрын
Green key is literally soo broken devs plz fix.
@therhymingturtle5577
@therhymingturtle5577 3 жыл бұрын
You look great today Scott! Hope you are feeling good as well!
@madeofmeats
@madeofmeats 3 жыл бұрын
I consider the purple med kit to be my lucky item. Whenever I bring it when I play Claudette, I always manage to escape and never run out of charges
@FabricatedPheonix
@FabricatedPheonix 3 жыл бұрын
That actually me with legion. I rarely play him, but when I do I almost always do well. I like to keep that luck up so I still rarely play him lol
@madeofmeats
@madeofmeats 3 жыл бұрын
Fabricated Phoenix weirdly enough, Trapper is that character for me. Even though my killer main fluctuates between Wraith and Huntress, I always manage to get the potatoes that step in every trap whenever I play Trapper
@The3dsstuff
@The3dsstuff 3 жыл бұрын
Flashlights in a vacuum? shit, make you play worse Flashlights in a chase build with quick n quiet/dance with me/head on/iron will etc etc? Genuinely pretty decent. but people don't use them as such. because taking pressure off yourself means taking pressure and placing it potentially on the team, when you can just get pepe flashlight save. But being able to genuinely escape chase very consistently by blinding and always having an exit strategy? not bad. just requires a build around it similar to the best medkits out there. the worst thing about flashlights is a majority of their addons have no effect, or next to no effect. im not saying bring back instant blind, but jesus are they in a bad place rn. I still like to run them though, there very fun to use.
@ProdAidenStone
@ProdAidenStone 3 жыл бұрын
Heal the gen.
@Shadow77999
@Shadow77999 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@tk_the_onion
@tk_the_onion 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine bringing items to the game -Plunderer Ace Gang
@ItsGarrus
@ItsGarrus 3 жыл бұрын
Surprising seeing flashlights at the bottom when it could be literally the only item in a lobby and the killer would slap on franklin’s 😂😂 can’t lose that precious *momentum* by having a survivor following you around right?
@NRG931
@NRG931 3 жыл бұрын
Firecrackers: am I a joke to you?
@muffy7323
@muffy7323 3 жыл бұрын
Still flaslights are by far the funniest item to bring.
@seabass8193
@seabass8193 3 жыл бұрын
I just like them because it can instantly turn your character the direction your camera is. Which then you can instantly moonwalk, also flashlight clicking is fun
@mythmage8231
@mythmage8231 3 жыл бұрын
@@seabass8193 this. Using flashlights in a chase to instantly change your direction is insanely strong
@djohnthesalty
@djohnthesalty 3 жыл бұрын
@@mythmage8231 instant 180 deadhard. Momentum changes. Faking vaults. Starting a spin. dodging hatchets. Making awkward window vaults with dead-hard. Honestly I bring flashlights whenever I use deadhard because there's a lot of tech you can do with the combination.
@monchiexthemonkey6068
@monchiexthemonkey6068 3 жыл бұрын
@@djohnthesalty I can't count how many times killers lose insane distance because of flashlights. They may make people cocky and try to get saved but the amount of things you can do make it my favorite item
@mythmage8231
@mythmage8231 3 жыл бұрын
@@djohnthesalty i dont use Dead Hard, because 1.) Its unreliable because dedicated servers are ass, and 2.) Sprint Burst is just god tier. But yeah, flashlights have insane synergy with dead hard
@scrowfunk8109
@scrowfunk8109 3 жыл бұрын
another excellent video scott jund of the youtube channel scott jund. i am waiting for your guitar cover. i am excited. thank you.
@jonihelsing
@jonihelsing 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope they add new items in the future.. Like whistles, flares, some type of radar tracker to track other survivors, etc
@kelberas4205
@kelberas4205 3 жыл бұрын
You mean gaydar? Also, key already can tracks obsession, and perks do same thing, but sure under some conditions.
@monchiexthemonkey6068
@monchiexthemonkey6068 3 жыл бұрын
They never change or add anything thing unless it's broken
@Shadow77999
@Shadow77999 3 жыл бұрын
@@kelberas4205 there is a key addon that functions exactly like bond too
@jonihelsing
@jonihelsing 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the radar can act as the perk/key replacement idk
@totallycoolgaming2750
@totallycoolgaming2750 3 жыл бұрын
4:57 new ultra rare medkit coming soon?
@hypnoSpirA
@hypnoSpirA 3 жыл бұрын
I would actually love to see a video with every specific item (like Alex's Toolbox and Ranger Medkit), even including event items
@devslashuser2884
@devslashuser2884 3 жыл бұрын
Scott is looking dapper, idk why just getting dapper vibes from him
@MaxxDW
@MaxxDW 3 жыл бұрын
At 5:00 he said medkits instead of toolboxes.
@conkerlive101
@conkerlive101 3 жыл бұрын
Scott Giga brain super optimal survor and killer. Meanwhile can't invest the 40 seconds to make sure his room ain't a disaster.
@supersince3158
@supersince3158 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I love seeing survivors bring flashlights there always one or 2 waste time while I chase another person
@mythmage8231
@mythmage8231 3 жыл бұрын
If they are used CORRECTLY and APPROPRIATELY (not trying to use it constantly), my list is: Medkits Keys Flashlights Toolboxes Maps Firecracker
@FabricatedPheonix
@FabricatedPheonix 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but you are wrong, here’s my revision to your list. 1.) Firecracker
@mythmage8231
@mythmage8231 3 жыл бұрын
@@FabricatedPheonix oh, you're right. My bad. CG tech with Firecracker into Any Means Necessary into Mettle Of Man is easily the meta strat. I forgot. Thank you for bringing this to my attention
@FabricatedPheonix
@FabricatedPheonix 3 жыл бұрын
Myth Mage Not a problem, I’m just here to help other players out!
@Bodyknock
@Bodyknock 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree about flashlights being the worst item for all the reasons Scott says. A couple of additional quick thoughts on them. - I think the one good thing about flashlights that Scott didn’t mention is they do give a nice 500 bloodpoint bonus per pallet blind. For context that’s half of a hook rescue per use and there’s a decent chance you’ll get to do it multiple times in a match. So in a way bringing a flashlight is a bit like bringing a bloodpoint offering, it’s not really doing much but you can squeeze out some extra points at pallets. - Speaking of blinding at pallets, I agree that if you blind the killer and just run away they’ll just follow you anyway and you’ve lost distance by blinding. But hypothetically you might be able to do a juke while they’re blinded by crouching around an obstacle then running away if the killer thinks you went straight ahead. It would be interesting to compare different plays you can maybe try to do following a blind at a pallet drop. - Flashlight saves are, like Scott says, the “flashiest” use of them but are very inconsistent. Not only is the timing difficult to do but killers can often greatly mitigate the chance of pulling them off simply by being aware of their surroundings and seeing you coming or by looking at a wall when they pick someone up. And blinding a killer while they are already carrying someone is even harder since the killer just needs to not look directly at the beam. I’m totally with Scott on this, most of the time when survivors are trying to get flashlight saves it just means free hits and pressure for me.
@poissonsumac7922
@poissonsumac7922 3 жыл бұрын
A 4 man flashlight team f'ed my day up as Deathslinger one time. Those nutsos even flashlight saved a guy I yanked off a totem. If I see more than 1 flashlight I put on Lightborn. I don't care if it's a dumb perk, it works unreasonably well in times I don't expect it to.
@MM-vr8rj
@MM-vr8rj 3 жыл бұрын
@FreakLEL he's not new I know him. Survivors that know how to work a flashlight can outsmart you by playing the locker game with their friends. And when yeeting someone of a totem it's pretty unexpected to see someone go for a flashlight save.
@MM-vr8rj
@MM-vr8rj 3 жыл бұрын
@FreakLEL you can of course but you will probably still get baited 1 or 2 times is what I mean. The first time you grab someone out of a locker you might not realise yet that it's a coordinated survivors group and sometimes you automatically spam search the locker without thinking. Plus multiple beamers can instantly blind you. Not saying flashlights are good, but you can get baited even if you're good.
@MM-vr8rj
@MM-vr8rj 3 жыл бұрын
@FreakLEL I know, I'm just describing the worst case scenario.
@ajtp1349
@ajtp1349 3 жыл бұрын
When did Scott become Finn wolfhard?
@vert3x398
@vert3x398 3 жыл бұрын
I think we can all agree that back in the days when picking survivors up would take 4.3 seconds flashlights were way more valuable at least in SWF: you'd just tell the slugged guy to crawl away from any wall and the flashlight rescuer would always have enough time to run to the face of the killer and blind them without hiding too close to them. It used to be way more interactive and time worth to try to go for flashlight saves though it used to make creating pressure significantly slower for the killer (in spite of flashlights in general), I feel like they might work around slowing the current pick up animation down just a bit and making perks like Agitation speed it back up to 3 secs and Boil Over slow it down, it'd be cool to see flashlights being that useful again. I also feel like they might consider reimplementing faster blinds, honestly without Shadowborn being as shitty as it used to be and with the possibility to look down or up to dodge the beam, instablinds had become quite challenging to play around at least to me, they used to be op back when you'd be blinded from any angle within like 180° from the killer's pov, but right now I feel like they might give them a shot
@fluffymonster396
@fluffymonster396 3 жыл бұрын
6:22 They're also good for finding totems and seeing traps. I believe they even show fake pallets (Freddy) if I remember right. Unless they changed that. Maps are my favorite items.
@ripper6624
@ripper6624 3 жыл бұрын
5:00 Two medkits working on the same Gen. Now it's big brain time.
@zamblot3324
@zamblot3324 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny what you say about flashlights when Ive been basement facecamped because a random in my lobby happened to bring one, certain people seem to act like it's incredibly op
@VFG204
@VFG204 3 жыл бұрын
It's always baby Killers who go on Reddit complaining about Survivors when they lose one game out of 50.
@godlylatte3942
@godlylatte3942 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah as a hag main i hate flashies, I’d say its scarier than toolboxes
@seabass8193
@seabass8193 3 жыл бұрын
I just got recommended this again and I just saw that Scott is looking kinda fresh
@FeelsCopper
@FeelsCopper 3 жыл бұрын
"Hey guys, *God here* ". I love not getting words immediately. Great video, very useful, keep up the good content ❤️
@JustSomeDinosaurPerson
@JustSomeDinosaurPerson 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with flashlights is how most people choose to use them. They are better if you understand loops or have Iron Will, since you end up juking a killer and gaining more distance. But overall, yeah I would say they are very situational.
@sovasproductions7184
@sovasproductions7184 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that flashlights are worse than no items because there are several situations where they are still extremely useful: - Delaying/Stopping tunneling - Flashlight saves can reduce the pressure from a killer - You can juke with flashlights at pallets - You can perform a moonwalk with them They may be pretty ineffective against more experienced killers, but to say that flashlights are worse than no items is like saying that having one more tool in a toolbox is worse than no toolbox
@FabricatedPheonix
@FabricatedPheonix 3 жыл бұрын
I completely ignore flashlight clickers (there are exceptions) so it doesn’t stop me from doing what I want
@DanielSousa-vv9bx
@DanielSousa-vv9bx 3 жыл бұрын
Flashlights are the worst item in terms of winning the game, but they are definetly the most fun item that exists, the amout of fun a FL can bring is huge
@nephy3819
@nephy3819 3 жыл бұрын
The point is, killer can play around all of this
@zafid6077
@zafid6077 3 жыл бұрын
Double locker start with flashlights...The killer is fucked
@sovasproductions7184
@sovasproductions7184 3 жыл бұрын
@Xela Flow You can try to keep flashlight saving a friend who keeps getting tunneled, and you can turn the attention away from them towards you
@chaos8904
@chaos8904 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Jund I think the addon for the crystal bead which allows the map auras to be seen by other survivors is the best addon for that
@Thatevilmellon
@Thatevilmellon 3 жыл бұрын
The one exception to flashlights being non-threatening is if you're the hag. If you're a hag and you see 2+ flashlights in a lobby and the survivors are GOOD. you're going to have a bad time. you will rarely have your trap threshold maxed out so you have have good pressure and you'll constantly be in situations that force you to forgo using traps as a loop defense, and just mindlessly loop around a pallet like a huntress without any hatchets. flashlights for hag can be a nightmare. but.. that is literally the only exception. otherwise yeah, people who slowly back up trying to blind you while you look at the sky.. amazing. please give me more of those.
@Wulfjager
@Wulfjager 3 жыл бұрын
Add-onless green key is OP. I bring it into every match
@lennart_glimpsel
@lennart_glimpsel 3 жыл бұрын
the weather is pretty weird actually. a phew days ago it was like 20°C out there and I could go on a walk without having to wrap myself in 10 layers of clothing. now its 4°C outside and the wind is cold af.
@yoshihuo6911
@yoshihuo6911 3 жыл бұрын
So in that case, is there anything that you think would possibly be done to flashlights in the future? Whether they give it additional utility or just outright buffs. I doubt it but if anything what do you think they’d do?
@seabass8193
@seabass8193 3 жыл бұрын
I'd put firecrackers too. Above flashlights because they don't slow you down and can be used while turning a corner to disorient the killer
@PIZZAloverNUMBERS
@PIZZAloverNUMBERS 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being sorry for "not uploading in a couple of days" when prior you were a fucking beast with back-to-back-to-back uploads
@calamitydrifta9911
@calamitydrifta9911 3 жыл бұрын
The not so insta insta heal med kit is my favorite med kit.
@FabricatedPheonix
@FabricatedPheonix 3 жыл бұрын
I usually do it on a medkit with extra charges so I can get multiple heals off it, plus the one extra from the syringe
@mythmage8231
@mythmage8231 3 жыл бұрын
They are pretty fun for no reason whatsoever
@dalf_souls2199
@dalf_souls2199 3 жыл бұрын
6:02 saving them until the last 2/1 generator is really good because those are harder generators to do because 3 gen and occupied survivors and perks like sloppy or thana or dying light. but also the only gen that matters is the last, if you use a toolbox on the first gen you still have all the rest so if you use it when there's no pressure on the gen you lose time when the next gen you work on is being pressured and they have pop or ruin and you lose time
@clipsnchits4820
@clipsnchits4820 3 жыл бұрын
maps are my favorite item because i run detectives hunch. after 1 or 2 gens are done i can just see everything on the map
@weatherman2045
@weatherman2045 3 жыл бұрын
Looking Fresh Scott
@dallydayz7549
@dallydayz7549 3 жыл бұрын
i usually save flashlight for when gens are done, and then go for flashy saves since doors are getting 99d and my team needs a little leeway
@JailerGamer
@JailerGamer 3 жыл бұрын
The 360 that spun Scott
@ElRinconDeLaPapa
@ElRinconDeLaPapa 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really give a fuck about clothes but Scott's outfit in this video is like "hobo goes to job interview"
@Ignorerant
@Ignorerant 3 жыл бұрын
Scott "Map goes BZzzzzZzzzz" Jund
@scottpilgrim3290
@scottpilgrim3290 3 жыл бұрын
There are situations when flashlight will help you. For example, if killer downed your buddy who is on death hook, you just go there and distract him. Since you have flashlight, killer quite often will be scared to pick him up and will chase you instead, and this will give your teammate a chance
@ezergilechimekazikura6855
@ezergilechimekazikura6855 3 жыл бұрын
The damage from getting spun seems to be unrecoverable, he keeps making tier lists.
@PsychCow
@PsychCow 3 жыл бұрын
Flashlights go on the bottom because you can counter them by turning around or by smashing your face into a wall, or by baiting out the flashlight saver and getting a free hit. That said a flashlight in the right survivor's hand can be solid threat, and you can't become the right survivor without practicing.
@terradon3389
@terradon3389 3 жыл бұрын
As a french guy, one thing I love the most on internet is hearing english native ppl saying "Deja vu".
@lordsavior1559
@lordsavior1559 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott
@r4z0rv1n3
@r4z0rv1n3 3 жыл бұрын
Like what even is the max amount of time you can use a key with Blood Amber? I almost never use it cause I am terrified of ruining the key, cause it Tremendously decreases Key Efficiency ? So normally you'd get 30 seconds on the Skeleton Key which seems okay but how much does Blood Amber decrease that? I guess if you throw Streetwise and the new Perk from Felix and the Prayer Beads add, so it might be slightly worthwhile but that is a lot of things to stack up ?
@yoshifan2334
@yoshifan2334 3 жыл бұрын
The flashlight thing was something I was noticing myself as i was learning how to play the game. They felt really non-impactful because I would never really be in a position to attempt a flashlight save whenever someone would go down, and it seemed obviously non-productive to stop what i was doing to follow someone injured around until they went down. At first i assumed it was just a mindset difference, I'm a bit of a gen jockey so i just assumed that flashlights worked better for the kinds of people who like to run interference and waste the killer's time in chase rather than aim to break chase, but it seems i was mistaken and yeah, even when playing killer against teams that were obviously better than me, flashlights are rarely an actual issue.
@Shadow77999
@Shadow77999 3 жыл бұрын
Scott looking sleek in this vid boi
@TheEpicWookie659
@TheEpicWookie659 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the placement of flashlights, but I absolutely agree the way people play with them can make them bad if you follow people around instead of progressing the game. I just think the ability to take up more of the killers time in a chase or to potentially save a teammate if the opportunity presents itself is really valuable
@Kr4ndom
@Kr4ndom 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should reconsider franklins. it's such a fun perk and can give you really good value since the buff. i started running it a lot when i see 4 items in the lobby, and the survivors always come back to get their stuff, more often than not injured, and thanks to the aura you know exactly when a survivor is at that specific place, which can lead to a quick down. Same with keys, i had a 3man SWF with a key wielder, so i put on franklins and they just swarmed the key once it was on the ground. 3 people not on gens gave me enough to pressure to end the game with 4 gens left, and all their sweet items now belong to the entity. Lastly, franklin is a better key counter than a mori. because those people will bring the addon to keep their key on death, so they'll just run it next game again, with franklin i take that key out of the game for good. and should it come down to a hatch race, i can actually hit the survivor on the way to the hatch, with them having to pick the key back up giving me enough time to recover and put them down before they can open the hatch.
@syllith3077
@syllith3077 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty psyched for the new killer - Kill Baller
@lookatmynips
@lookatmynips 3 жыл бұрын
Are flashlight bugged for everyone or is it just me? When I aim said flashlight at a wall it's not in the center of my screen, it's off to right a lot. I saw the same thing in one of Monto's videos, but I can't find any posts about it. Whether it's intended or not.
@ryzacraft
@ryzacraft 3 жыл бұрын
I would say flashlights are stronger then maps. Maps are ok but when you’ve played enough, you pretty much know where all the gen and totem spawns are. It could help with hatch but it’s unlikely you’d get to use it for that. Flashlight saves, whilst they do stop survivors doing gens sometimes, can be really good when stalling out the killer. I think you should only realistically have 1 survivor doing the flashlight saves so the other two can do gens, but if you get a player down, pick them up and get FL saved, both the injured player and the flashlighter have time to get more distance meaning you have to spend longer chasing them. With gen speeds atm, even one flashlight save could cost you the whole game.
@justincrawley1654
@justincrawley1654 3 жыл бұрын
Flashlights win in the fun department though
@manyachievables
@manyachievables 3 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, Flashlights actually can be a benefit to Legion players. If they are blinding you at a pallet, you can vault the pallet, immediately get knocked out of Frenzy without a stun and then instantly down them.
@Flaminglump01
@Flaminglump01 3 жыл бұрын
Would the position of the Flashlight change if the mentality of people who used them changed from "I'm going out of my way to bm and get flashlight saves" to "I'll just play like normal, and if I see an opportunity to maybe go for a flashlight save, I'll make an effort at it"?
@deathdefying1472
@deathdefying1472 3 жыл бұрын
Brown toolbox and broken key are the worst in my opinion
@SGEnjoyer
@SGEnjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
if I bring a flashlight, it's more to blind a killer after a pallet stun and hope they don't have good headphones. I'm an 80/20 killer player so I know firsthand how agitating it is. I'm very good at running loops as killer. it transfers to survivor just as well. bring a flashlight, run Iron Will, and it becomes much safer to try messing with a killer to get them to keep chasing me while they're blinded by any and all pallet throws. I'm the type that enjoys being chased a majority of the match, I hate gen jockeying and go out of my way to avoid it if I've already maxed obj. flashlights make it easier to tilt someone into spending more time chasing me than they really should.
@tanooki1487
@tanooki1487 3 жыл бұрын
"You can still speed up a gen by a very very large amount with two medkits working on the same gen" 4:57 -Scott Spunned 2020
@gymboystudios4882
@gymboystudios4882 3 жыл бұрын
"You can speed up a gen a very large amount with TWO medkits" Scott jund 4:58
@bilindabutcher8913
@bilindabutcher8913 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I barely starting playing DBD like 1-2 months ago and when I play killer gens get done fast af I can’t even imagine how fast they were done before toolboxes got nerfed
@pepeistic9934
@pepeistic9934 3 жыл бұрын
I love you Scott! :D
@Google-Account-hd5dk
@Google-Account-hd5dk 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with about flashlights. The player either wastes tonnes of time trying to use them or plays normally and gets one use out them every five games or so.
@Google-Account-hd5dk
@Google-Account-hd5dk 3 жыл бұрын
Actually I disagree that they're worse than no item, they're a tiny bit better than no item imo
@sirvook1955
@sirvook1955 3 жыл бұрын
4:57 "you can speed up a Gen by a very very large amount with two *MedKits* working on the same gen"
@finn4580
@finn4580 3 жыл бұрын
The weather's good. I'm doing well.
@purplepeople3960
@purplepeople3960 3 жыл бұрын
I love a good old med kit gen rush
@deadhelix
@deadhelix 3 жыл бұрын
On one hand I completely understand killers despising keys and I also agree they are bullshit, but on the other hand I will never forget the one game when I was fairly meh at the game where I was the last one alive and hatch was closed but I knew where it was. I said fuck it Imma die anyway might aswell search this basement chest... and a dull key was bestowed upon me by god giving me a shred of hope, me escaping that un winnable game with a sliver of time left on the end game.
@dustinsterling3248
@dustinsterling3248 3 жыл бұрын
Next video : Best killer items Alternate video : best killer weapons, like which weapons look the most dangerous/threatening.
@hYdrantoxide
@hYdrantoxide 3 жыл бұрын
I use flashlights purely in self defense if a killer uses a window in our chase, I'll go for the save if someone goes down near me but that's about it. Also my least favorite item along with keys, medkit master race
@FabricatedPheonix
@FabricatedPheonix 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite game was when I was playing Myers and all the survivors brought a flashlight. I knew right then it was going to be fun. All I had to do was 99 my tier 2 and then down someone, wait for them all to try and save him, and then pop tier 3 and slug them all. It was a nice feeling getting everyone that way (It also helps when swf try to sweat but make mistakes)
@maggotthemadman8142
@maggotthemadman8142 3 жыл бұрын
Desperate Measures gonna be fun to play against.
@maggotthemadman8142
@maggotthemadman8142 3 жыл бұрын
JK
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