Testing Evolution blades on R255SMS sliding mitre saw - are they any good?
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6 жыл бұрынTesting Evolution blades on R255SMS sliding mitre saw - are they any good? In this video I will be looking at three blades from Evolution - the standard multi-blade, wood dedicated blade and the diamond blade. I will be doing several tests on each blade to showcase their effectiveness and cut quality.
Evolution sliding mitre saw R255SMS unboxing and review:
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@CasualDIY 6 жыл бұрын
Good day All! If you are interested in buying any of those blades, then you can see the description of this video for links to Amazon.
@michaelmorgan9289 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using an Evolution 210 SMS for about a month. I've used the Multi use blade & the Stone cutter blade. Must say that I'm extremely happy with the Mitre saw & the performance of the Blades. The work I did was building a timber shed & re-laying about 10sq metres of block paving.
@CasualDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Yep they are solid tools👍
@Mekchanoid 3 жыл бұрын
Tomasz, thanks for putting out so much info about the R255SMS, it's been really useful. Hope your move is working out well :)
@CasualDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly👍😁
@Mekchanoid 3 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY You're welcome - Wesołych Świąt :)
@garethsharp4039 6 жыл бұрын
Makes a good looking saw even more versatile! I'm hoping to upgrade my cheap and cheerful chop saw at some point, so these will definitely be a contender.
@CasualDIY 6 жыл бұрын
Gareth Sharp that's very true, thanks to these blades you are getting so much more out of the tool.
@bricofast 4 жыл бұрын
Enteresting review, thanks for the video,a hug here from Portugal 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly 👍😁
@davedaniels8211 2 жыл бұрын
I have the R185sms , as I cut nothing wider than decking . Used the saw over 4 long weekends with no problem with the multi blade . I sand down the cuts and apply oil . Lightweight and small when folded down . Might upgrade the blade as it wears . Great video
@CasualDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they seem to be solid tools. Thanks for watching 👍
@jimblack2331 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Will be interesting to do another one after the blades have had a lot of use and see if there is any change with an older blade.
@CasualDIY 6 жыл бұрын
Jim Black Thank you, exactly - it will be a cool experiment to see how long they hold.
@jimblack2331 6 жыл бұрын
Look forward to it Tomasz
@sumosprojects 6 жыл бұрын
Great review mate, it’s a bit of a beat up what manufactures say about blades & how they’re advertised, I’ve found a good quality all purpose blade will do most thing wood related really well & who wants to be changing them over every operation lol, love your channel 👍👍🔨🔨
@CasualDIY 6 жыл бұрын
Sumo's Projects Thanks mate. I think the multi purpose blade is a very good pice of equipment, especially when you work with reclaimed wood where there could be some nails. You don't have to worry then and it makes it much safer.
@rick546 5 жыл бұрын
To stop ripout. Start with the saw fully to the back. Lower saw and cut a shallow groove from back to front. Then lower blade right down and push to the back. Same with tiles
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Thats a great tip thanks! I actually seen a video from Diresta and he used that technique as well :)
@niveusjack 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you know if you can use the HTC255STEEL blade with this saw if i want mainly to cut metal profile? Have you maybe tested it?
@CasualDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Should do, the multi blade dose so I can't see why this one shouldn't. Just check the specs of the blade if there's no glaring no nos with putting it in this saw
@MrBigTexFyre 6 жыл бұрын
Where do you find a good woodcutting blade with the large arbor size as the Evolution blades?
@CasualDIY 6 жыл бұрын
BigTexFyre the evolution blades to my knowledge come with one size of arbor. If you want to fit an Evolution blade you need to check what your saw can take I think the arbor in Evolution blades is 20mm. Best place to check is Amazon.
@11hoursoff 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Do you know of any compatible fine cut blades? I’m looking to swap mine out for cleaner more precise cut
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
I think with evolution tools you are limited to evolution blades. They do have a dedicated blade for wood only it's is good, not the best but good. As the saws operate at lower RPMS so far I wasn't able to find any other blades that would work with that.
@11hoursoff 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve been looking for ages, might be an excuse to invest in a new saw!
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
@@11hoursoff In my sliding mitre I actually use the wood dedicated blade and it does a good job. Had a slab of oak 30cm wide and 6.5cm thick and it went through with no issues and the cut was very clean. Done a short video on my Instagram- check it out if you want.
@michaelkilner5031 5 жыл бұрын
HI.enjoyed that. What blade would you recommend for this saw to give a high quality fine cut in wood? Best regards Mick.
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks:) the problem is that all Evolution saws have lower RPM about 3200 where any other wood blades ( not Evolution blades) are made for faster RPM. So in theory only Evolution blades should be used with Evolution saws. The Evolution wood dedicated blade is good, I use is my sliding mitre saw all the time and I'm very happy with the cuts it gives. But don't expect quality as good as the top of the range blades. Hope this helps.
@michaelkilner5031 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you ,am now looking at a metabo kgs305
@Mekchanoid 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen people using the Saxton 80-tooth 255mm blade on this. Blades always state a maximum RPM but not a minimum, so it's not so clear whether we should be using non-Evolution blades on this saw.
@joeperez3081 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, good video! Can be used a normal wood blade in this saw?
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Evolution make a wood dedicated blade only. As the saw got lower RPMS it only takes blades from Evolution as they are designed for that. That's the downside of this saw and any Evolution saws.
@thegujarati7534 6 жыл бұрын
Doing good tom . blade 1 all the way
@CasualDIY 6 жыл бұрын
Sardar Singh thank you mate
@hardylioness 5 жыл бұрын
I think it would be useful to test the first blade with wood again after cutting through the different metals. There's no doubt that the first blade can handle metal, especially if you hit something accidentally (maybe in reclaimed timber) but what's the cut on timber like after that? And didn't know it could cut tiles, that's useful and saves having two machines so thanks!
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Hi I use the multiblade all the time on wood and metal. And there is no downgrade in cut quality. Only thing I can say, the blade will need changing sooner if you do cut through a lot of metal - but still quite reasonable time before it needs changing. Thanks👍
@SCRAPWOODTOCRAFTWOOD 6 жыл бұрын
Good review buddy but that tile and brick made a horrible mess on your shiny new saw it makes you think would the dust not affect the slides by scratching it and getting in the bearing
@CasualDIY 6 жыл бұрын
BIGBOY'S DIY that's a good point, I'm hoping they thought of that when constructing the saw and developing the blade, time will tell
@TJSWOODWORKINGSHOP 6 жыл бұрын
Hey my brother I put this video on my Facebook ok awesome blades to later :)
@CasualDIY 6 жыл бұрын
TJ'S WOODWORKING SHOP that's awsome mate, I'm glad you liked it!
@alibeautiful5310 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Can I install evolution multi cut blade into my Makita DLS713 cordless mitre saw.
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
No idea mate. But these blades are designed for low RPM up to 3600. So if you put this blade in a saw with 9000 RPMS you may have a problem. Personally I would not recommend it
@joeblogs4146 3 жыл бұрын
No the bore on evolution blades are only suitable for evolution machines only. ( that’s how they’ve got you by the balls after you’ve bought one) > you can’t use any other brand of blade apart from the screwfix own brand multi purpose blade 155mm by erbauer. That has a cleaner cut as well.
@fasha1968 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see this machine to cut V on UPVC profile to make UPVC frame.. It's recommended or not.
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
I can't see why not but I have never worked with UPVC so not sure.
@JoaoPedro-bd5wm 6 жыл бұрын
oi como eu faso para comprar um disco dessa categorias
@grantwhite 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you tried the wood blade on your rage-5 table saw? If so how does it perform? Great video btw
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks and yes, when I got some hardwoods and need better cut quality then I swap it for the wood dedicated blade👍 it does give better results.
@grantwhite 5 жыл бұрын
That’s great, thanks for that.
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
@@grantwhite no problem 👍
@pawelaco 5 жыл бұрын
A great machine.
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, for a budget saw it's not to bad :)
@hermandeboer5053 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, the most common way to saw is . Pull the saw downwards and than pull it to you. At first about a cm deep and then the rest of it.
@danutafranczyk4594 6 жыл бұрын
Can't believe it cut the brick! Really interesting review
@geesunray2060 4 жыл бұрын
Can you cut brick with this mitre saw if I put a diamond tip blade ?
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Yes mate, just do it outside with a mask as the dust goes everywhere 👷♂️
@geesunray2060 4 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY would you saw most chop saw using a diamond tipped blade can cut bricks & blocks ?
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
@@geesunray2060 no to my knowledge from normal cheap diy mitre saws only evolution saw can do it with the diamond blade. All Evolution saws got lower RPMS about 3600 I think and the blades ate designed for that speed so it's actually possible to cut through brick etc and with the multi purpose blades through metal.
@bernieshort9774 3 жыл бұрын
Make a simple zero clearance base and back fence for your mitre saw and you will not get tear out.
@colindj1 4 жыл бұрын
Hi all, having bought this for my small workshop I am disappointed with the dust extraction facility that just does not extract any dust when cutting wood. If like me you need this feature do not buy this product. On the whole this is a great cutting tool for a very reasonable price.
@josepheriah5977 4 жыл бұрын
Nice blade
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Yep they are not too bad
@qassimal-muqbali1739 4 жыл бұрын
It cutting will depend on speed of cutter. Sometimes you higher speed to clear cut
@nielscremer599 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question, can one use these blades on a brand of saw other than evolution?
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
They are design for lower RPMS about 3600 I think so personally I wouldn't recomend it.
@nielscremer599 4 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY thanks for the quick reply! I would really need a miter saw to cut steel with, but can't find one in my country :/
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
@@nielscremer599 That's the trouble sometimes unfortunately. I would love to play with some of the American brand tools but it's just to expensive to get them to UK
@nielscremer599 4 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY yeah that sadly is true :/
@joeblogs4146 3 жыл бұрын
No these blades ( evolution one’s) won’t fit any other brands of machines due to the bore ( I think it’s 20.4mm if I remember rightly) even reduces are useless that why the have you by the balls so you can only use their own ones although Screwfix and their Erbauer multipurpose blade can be used with evolution machines and they > erbauer blades give a cleaner cut with less tear out,
@peterskidmore8222 5 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that no one can make a blade that cuts through laminate flooring without getting blunt quickly, I recently went through 7 Bosch jigsaw blades and my newish Evolution blade on my circular saw when I fitted my modestly sized kitchen floor. Before that, I really rated the Evolution blade. It cut wood quickly, cleanly and accurately. Keep up the good work. You make me smile.
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm you must be doing a lot of laminate flooring. I done 65 square metres of laminate flooring in my house and used and old evolution chop saw I had and had no issues. Before that I done about 40 square metres with just a hand saw - took ages tho. And I would never do it with a hand saw again ;)
@peterskidmore8222 5 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY There were actually sparks coming off the laminate when I used the Evolution blade. God knows what B&Q make their laminate out of. I've read that aluminium is used to make them more hard wearing, but surely that shouldn't dull a blade.
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
@@peterskidmore8222 no aluminium shouldn't be a problem but as you say, who knows what they use to make them
@rosskennedy7039 2 жыл бұрын
Also would scoreing the wood befor cutting it help then mebbies less break away
@CasualDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it would help.
@alexmckenzie4325 5 жыл бұрын
Rpm looks so slow on this. Is there different setting?
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
They are specially designed this way so the saw can take blades that for example can cut metal, or tiles etc. Unfortunately there is no different rpm settings
@Val-xu1fp 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried on a laminate sheet?
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Just the multiblade, no issues although I was using a painter tape on the cut line to prevent any chip out.
@joeblogs4146 3 жыл бұрын
Laminate flooring does reduce the life span and performance of these blades(edit > evolution blades)quite a bit > it’s like putting a chainsaw in a bucket of sand or soil as you cut at the roots of a tree stump ❌ one of the fastest way to destroy it. Stay safe everyone and goodbye 👋
@rosskennedy7039 2 жыл бұрын
I take it then the finnish side will be the bottom as it cuts in a clock wise motion and thiers less break away. It made a rite mess of the tile
@CasualDIY 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a zero clearance plate for example then it would give far better results
@doncurlywurly9429 2 жыл бұрын
Hello I have this mitre saw and the blade keeps sticking when cutting wood, why is this?
@CasualDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Never had an issue like that. Maybe the blade is not aligned correctly and bonds with the material you are cutting? I would contact Evolution customer service.
@doncurlywurly9429 2 жыл бұрын
Casual DIY yes I think I will as it made me really anxious when it happened, never happened to me before with any other saw I’ve used.
@sharpeyedwatcher9724 4 жыл бұрын
Cut your tiles upside down to achieve a much cleaner cut on the facing side!
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip mate 👍
@incubatork 4 жыл бұрын
you'll get less tearout in the first block if you scribe the cut along the top like you did on the bigger block, all those blades cut ok for the first few cuts then its all down hill, unfortunately
@user-si1mj1gg9t 4 жыл бұрын
i mean the text author who wrote on this orange blade "premium quality and performance" is liar
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
I think every company does that, it's an overused slogan.
@colourexpert7971 2 жыл бұрын
The multi purpose blade is good for the first few cuts, then needs to be thrown away the replacement would be diablo, which is the best
@CasualDIY 2 жыл бұрын
I find the Saxton blades to be quite good for the price 👍
@colourexpert7971 2 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY you right diablo is expensive
@Saladzingers 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ve just bought this saw and whilst it’s a lot for the money, the tear-out does concern me a bit as I’m hoping to do some finer carpentry work. Even the wood saw has only 40 teeth I think, so rather than buy the evolution wood blade I’ll look for a 60-80 tooth blade.
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, just make sure the blade is designed for lower RPMS.
@Saladzingers 4 жыл бұрын
Casual DIY Didn’t realise this, thanks for the tip! Is this specific to Evolution saws or all mitre saws? If Evolution saws can’t take other blades then it’s going back. No point in having a mitre saw that can’t cut mitres without a load of tear-out.
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
@@Saladzingers yes all the Evolution saws are lower RPMS to be able to take the multi purpose blades. Did you try the blade dedicated for wood only from Evolution. It's a bit better.
@Saladzingers 4 жыл бұрын
Some good reviews of the Saxton 80T blade on the Evolution saw, similarly people have found the multi blade too rough!
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
@@Saladzingers Yes seen that blade but not bought it yet. I need to check it out. I would say that wood dedicated blade is better but not much. Just double check the RPMS on that blade from Saxons I think it needs to be around 3600rpms
@rok1475 5 жыл бұрын
You get clean cut with almost any blade when it is NEW. You can even get at least one clean cut on steel with a new wood blade. You have to throw it away after, but one cut will be clean. The real indication of quality is how long it will last cutting steel (or brick/tile for diamond blade). Get one blade and keep cutting until you feel it becomes dull. Compare number of cuts between blades. That will be an indication of quality. If $30 all-purpose blade becomes dull after 20 cuts but $60 blade stays sharp after 100 cuts, then that is useful information. Wood is so much softer than carbide tips that almost any modern, inexpensive carbide-tipped blade will do the job, unless you need better than 0.1mm/0.050" precision. The main problem with cutting wood is resin sticking to the teeth but not many people bother to keep the blade clean. A dirty blade makes a lot of smoke and it feels like it is dull so people buy a new "better quality" blade. Good for blade making industry, but hardly an indication of blade quality. Note about Evolution saws - they spin slower than regular wood-cutting saws to keep the speed of the carbide cutter within tolerable range for cutting steel. Mounting the same steel-cutting blade on a saw designed for wood will dull the blade quickly. You see that when people complain in the reviews that the expensive steel-cutting blade they just bought and mounted on their regular saw lasted for just a few cuts. But while slower rotation is better for steel, it is not so good for wood and ceramic. The only solution is a variable-speed saw with constant rpm/torque circuitry for motor control. But those are rare (Bosch makes one model and only for Europe).
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Very good info and feedback, thanks :)
@AndrewBrowner 6 жыл бұрын
but wheres the video for the steel cutting blades, lets see a life test between multi purpose and dedicated steel blade
@CasualDIY 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Browner not bought one yet ;)
@michaelmixon2479 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought an R255SMS and it does not come with the laser sighting.
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
I would contact the supplier mate. Although I never use mine.
@zaneh6224 5 жыл бұрын
Due to the slow speed of this saw it's really meant for cutting metal, to get good results on timber it needs to get up to around 4000-6000 rpm, with the tear out shown on the timber it's unacceptable, the chipping of the tiles is also no good, a cheap manual cutter will do a better job.. That diamond blade won't last long cutting bricks
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Yes the multi blade and this saw is not for professional carpenters, furniture and cabinet makers hence the price. That's why all the professionals are using Festool which will eventually pay itself off. But for DIYers and occasional builds I think this is a good saw at a good price :)
@zaneh6224 5 жыл бұрын
Yes agree, the multi blades are always going to be a compromise, I think with this saw they should have offered a dedicated metal cutting blade, then an option to increase the speed and put a timber blade on it, the metal cutting feature is what makes this saw an interesting machine.
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
@@zaneh6224 Yes exactly, that's the feature this machine needs. Then it wouldn't be too bad to pay bit extra. As you will have one good saw with good quality cuts in all materials not having to compromise. Obviously they got their own blades but if there was an option to increase rpms that would mean you can use any blades and just get one you like for wood best.
@DeneF 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have to say though. As a person living in their none native land, I think it's very disrespectful to then go and use an American word every English person with their salt hates. You know what you said, I shan't perpetuate it by repeating it. Lol.
@michaelholt7963 11 ай бұрын
If working with something nice use tape then cut
@brianfreeman8290 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god ! The music again. WHY?
@CasualDIY 2 жыл бұрын
It's a very old video that's why 🤣
@mudrunner1 4 жыл бұрын
How can you make a comparison on how well a blade cuts if you don't know how to work a saw? You don't need to saw back and forth like a manual saw.
@galland3496 6 жыл бұрын
Come on boy, you're British ! Its ALUMINIUM not aluminum.
@CasualDIY 6 жыл бұрын
Galland 34 lol I was waiting for this comment ;) I even googled it - did you know Australians pronounce it differently as well? You learn something new every day;)
@monty3862able 5 жыл бұрын
The music does my head in you don't need it
@user-si1mj1gg9t 4 жыл бұрын
blue steel evolution blade total dully in one hour.. with this blade you can just make a some you tube commerciable rewiew and put it to garbage.. im just disappointed
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Not used the blue blade to be honest. The multiblade I think is just for occasional use on metal. Still with the same blade and it's ok although I mainly use it for wood.
@user-si1mj1gg9t 4 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY two orange multi purpose blades both finished in one hour.. price is 40eu+40eu and blue one bade costs 80EU finished same in one hour.. money to almost nothing
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-si1mj1gg9t yes I see your point, if you working mainly with steel then a dedicated saw for cutting steel would be much better choice
@joshuatugwell7820 5 жыл бұрын
Y is he so dramatic
@reculvertowers 5 жыл бұрын
the music is annoying
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Some people will like it, some won't unfortunately I can't please everyone;) thank you for your comment :)
@Lyndalewinder 5 жыл бұрын
No reculvertowers is right it's not music it"s a repetitive dirge. I watched three of you videos which were ok but then had to unsubscribe because I can't bear the noise.
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
@@Lyndalewinder sorry to hear that
@muttley1956 5 жыл бұрын
Stop waving your arms around, you're not Italian.
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
I wave them just in case so I don't cut my fingers off👋👋👋👐
@letteriocambareri7764 4 жыл бұрын
RIDICOLO
@Tinker1950 5 жыл бұрын
Someone's got to tell him to drop the chav estuary speak. He comes across as a berk.
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry my speech offends you, unfortunately English is not my first language so it will be far from perfect but I can assure you I'm doing my best.
@Tinker1950 5 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY Whilst you may have another language, your English is obviously native. However, I didn't mention your grammatical usage, I mentioned your chav-speak, how your delivery comes across. If you want to be seen as having something useful to say, you'd be much better off dropping the buffoon act. If however, that is you, then you'll continue getting comments from the less than bright.
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tinker1950 hmm could you do me a favour then please? It's hard for me to see this, the way I speak. Could you check out my other videos and see if that's on all videos or just this one?
@Tinker1950 5 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY I'm afraid not. I have better things to do. You've been given some sensible advice - act on it, or not.
@CasualDIY 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tinker1950 well thank you for your help and feedback, have a great week👍
@matthewtierney2963 5 жыл бұрын
When Ali G teaches you English, this is what you end up with. 🙄
@theonoo 4 жыл бұрын
Stop gesturing. Its stupid.
@CasualDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Well unfortunately that's just me. In front of a camera and real life👍 we are not all perfect 🤔
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