The 2022 Toyota Tundra Is All New But Did Toyota Do Enough To Kick Some Ford, Chevy & Ram Butt?

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2 жыл бұрын

( tfl-studios.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! Welcome back to TFL Talkin' Trucks! In this podcast, we're doing a debrief on the 2022 Toyota Tundra reveal now that we've had a few days to stew on it. Did the new truck really do enough, or is it just not quite enough? Here's what Andre and Nathan think!
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@baconhandjob
@baconhandjob 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the spit screen makes it look like Nathan and Andre are holding hands.
@markhoffman
@markhoffman 2 жыл бұрын
The split screen builds tension.
@kenjcm
@kenjcm 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same! lol
@Ken.s.Snapshots
@Ken.s.Snapshots 2 жыл бұрын
They sit across from each other so their hands are not but their feet are touching 😂 😂 😂
@CJ-rk5eg
@CJ-rk5eg 2 жыл бұрын
🤪😭
@michaeldobson8859
@michaeldobson8859 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahaha
@bryanclark3739
@bryanclark3739 2 жыл бұрын
After viewing all of the YT videos about the new Tundra this past week, Andre your videos were head and shoulders above everyone else. Having said that, really an HOUR AND 20 MINUTE discussion. ZZZZZZZZZZ
@NUNER1
@NUNER1 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I bought my Tundra right before the pandemic cause these dealerships are greedy with the mark ups and outrageous prices!!
@kaikelii
@kaikelii 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Pun intended haha. My wife and I were looking at RAV 4 Hybrids until we saw the price tag and laughed. We will wait.
@pat2430
@pat2430 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2016 Toyota tundra sr5 crewmax my previous truck was a ram and I absolutely love the tundra.
@edgart49
@edgart49 2 жыл бұрын
Let's just face it. None of these will be inexpensive
@axelsprangare2579
@axelsprangare2579 2 жыл бұрын
They will be in the mid range price wise I think.
@isaiahparks5628
@isaiahparks5628 2 жыл бұрын
@@axelsprangare2579 No I don't think they will be honestly. I think the Limited will be 50-53kish the Platinum 55-65k ish and the TRD PRO 65k+ that's just my guess 🤔
@1spartacus1337
@1spartacus1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@isaiahparks5628 TRD pro is like $50-55 right now.
@isaiahparks5628
@isaiahparks5628 2 жыл бұрын
@@1spartacus1337 No they're not! At some dealerships maybe but most have a huge mark up nice try I've seen a 2021 TRD Pro for 75k
@ARIN4UK
@ARIN4UK 2 жыл бұрын
THEY WILL BE 3-5% More than the 2021 models are priced at and that’s it .
@Ultratron100
@Ultratron100 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the reveal I thought the front was atrocious. Now, I am impatiently waiting to be able to order my new Tundra.
@cwqrpportable
@cwqrpportable 2 жыл бұрын
The KoolAid kicked in......
@Dirtyharry70585
@Dirtyharry70585 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah it’s still fugly, seems they’re battling gmc for the fuglyest fronose
@cwqrpportable
@cwqrpportable 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dirtyharry70585 GMC is a better looking truck than the Toyota and at least the GMC has some heart and doesn't copy other manufacturers.
@Travisjoe31
@Travisjoe31 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's grown on me. You can probably get a cool grill on the aftermarket anyway. It has been modernized. If someone is buying a truck because they want a hot tub or sauna in the tailgate prob aren't worrying about money or reliability.
@locdawg3815
@locdawg3815 2 жыл бұрын
I agree the front is just hideous... Looks like a Nissan Altima or Maxima.
@joelortiz9774
@joelortiz9774 2 жыл бұрын
I’m one of the guys who actually LOVES the heritage Toyota script on the passenger dash. I’m curious to know how many other viewers love/hate it. Would you guys be willing to do a poll to find out if Toyota nailed that part or not?
@djjf45
@djjf45 2 жыл бұрын
Has a heritage land cruiser / FJ feel.. love it.
@danielmorales6151
@danielmorales6151 2 жыл бұрын
i like it but i wouldn't pay $1500 for it
@lakertang
@lakertang 2 жыл бұрын
Love it, just as in all the trd oro grilles. Older dudes may not like it.
@terryivanov9009
@terryivanov9009 2 жыл бұрын
Love it
@heavyarms951
@heavyarms951 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was too much when I first saw it but the more I think about it I love it. Nice nod the the Toyota heritage.
@johnny2peeks800
@johnny2peeks800 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, the SR5 trim looked very nice in a walkaround video uploaded about that specific trim.
@callofdutyguy9
@callofdutyguy9 2 жыл бұрын
That lunar rock truck had the TRD Sport package.
@Cooper1
@Cooper1 2 жыл бұрын
True story… the chrome grill surround was benchmarked against Hulk Hogan’s mustache.
@MrJcjet
@MrJcjet 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah - but what about the mullet??
@madatu247
@madatu247 2 жыл бұрын
I’d really like the details on the factory 3” lift, I personally think this will be one of the best looking trucks on the road with 35’s and aftermarket bumpers.
@simonvance8054
@simonvance8054 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more...
@smarro71
@smarro71 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care how beautiful and this that a truck is, but I'm NOT paying 70k for a pick up truck. I own a 2016 tacoma trd sport, paid for and I'm gonna keep it until I can't get in it, and I'm 50 so I still got another 20 years😂.
@citizentex5720
@citizentex5720 Жыл бұрын
Well said. This is why the 95,000 dollar Ford Lightning and other new trucks are so ridiculous. No one in their right mind pays that sort of money for a light duty, non industrial, vehicle designed to haul and tow things, and that depreciates. Truck prices are just insane. I know gas isn’t 59 cents a gallon like it was in my youth, but 70, 80…100,000 prices are absurd. These amounts are MORTGAGE money. I guess my generation will have to die off before truck manufacturers can get EVERYONE to think those are normal prices for a truck.
@DannyO0917
@DannyO0917 Жыл бұрын
To play the devil's advocate; there are pick up trucks ranging from $22k (base maverick) - $100k+ (raptor r), so there is something for every budget. So, while you may not want to spend $70k+ on a truck, you don't have to but it is nice that the other options exist for those that want/choose to spend that much. It is cool to see TRX and Raptors on the road, even if looking from a lesser truck.
@airborne1283
@airborne1283 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Toyota would have kept the 5.7 Liter and just mate it to the 10 speed transmission
@Miiike604
@Miiike604 2 жыл бұрын
Wish that 5.7 was still an available engine option..
@Libertarian_Neighbor
@Libertarian_Neighbor 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@fjoco1
@fjoco1 2 жыл бұрын
NO
@fjoco1
@fjoco1 2 жыл бұрын
@Jean Toronto Raptors Yes no need for them in half ton trucks anymore.
@jw8578
@jw8578 2 жыл бұрын
Given the tundra might not change for another 14 years toyota needed to move past a v8. Hybrid, then full electric at some point soon.
@iamn360
@iamn360 2 жыл бұрын
Tundra did a good job catching up but that's all they did. Didn't go above and beyond like they did when they first released the 5.7 ifork
@gieseb83
@gieseb83 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna be an amazing truck but if you end up financing a $70,000 truck at 4.9% plus the additional dealer mark up of 10k, I would say it's not the brightest idea!
@ARIN4UK
@ARIN4UK 2 жыл бұрын
But like any other Toyota in 5 years it will still sell for 60k so if you sell in 5 years the TRUE cost of ownership is $2,000 a year plus whatever interest.
@jrocu2
@jrocu2 2 жыл бұрын
$70k that’s 3/4 and 1 ton money. You can get a whole lot more truck with that kind of money. I just traded my tundra for a F250 diesel and it’s a world of difference. More Hp and torque and towing capabilities while getting 20mpg
@TheBlakemaster01
@TheBlakemaster01 2 жыл бұрын
All Toyota dealerships I've talked to are promising MSRP pricing with no markup. I also don't think any trim will cross the $70,000 mark.
@user-jq1cj9oh2o
@user-jq1cj9oh2o 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBlakemaster01 Bob Tyler told me 5k make up..
@jonasyracheta2185
@jonasyracheta2185 2 жыл бұрын
Limited crew max with trd off road package. Option it with the iforcemax, panoramic roof, 14 inch screen, power rear window, automatic running boards and maybe air suspension and 6.5 bed, pending what the subtotal is. Im good to go. If the truck ends up over 60K before dealer markup, im chucking up the deuce. ✌️peace out suckas. Not good to go into too much debt during this inflationary environment. And another big wave of inflation coming soon. Commodities first then toys.
@kyleredfearn96
@kyleredfearn96 2 жыл бұрын
I just can't wait to get the MPG and pricing details. I can't make a verdict until then
@foskco87
@foskco87 2 жыл бұрын
You know neither are going to be good...
@roberthudson8225
@roberthudson8225 2 жыл бұрын
@@foskco87 why would you say that??
@bigcjm
@bigcjm 2 жыл бұрын
So the 2022 tundra is at the Texas state fair in Dallas. Saw it in person there. Looks good to me.
@stevec5947
@stevec5947 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for you guys to test drive it!
@KirtH27
@KirtH27 2 жыл бұрын
They need to come out with Ivan Stewart edition as Raptor fighter! Search Ivan Stewert Jay Leno garage, let Ivan build the suspension. It would make a Bad Arse truck
@eliteinventor
@eliteinventor 2 жыл бұрын
And then we would have to pay to watch
@dp1829
@dp1829 2 жыл бұрын
I think they missed on not having an inverter/generator mode, and losing the under seat storage on the hybrid. I was planing on buying, but now not sure. If i knew they would be adding an inverter next year I'd wait. But on the fence with just buying the F150 now.
@xctrack17
@xctrack17 2 жыл бұрын
100% a miss. Using those old nickel batteries. Fords flat floor has so much more usability.
@iamrambo99
@iamrambo99 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. This was a big miss from Toyota.
@fongvang935
@fongvang935 2 жыл бұрын
Love the flat floor in the back seat and generator in the bed. Also love the power tailgate coming up and down with the press of the remote. Only minor thing I dislike is the folding shifter and capless fuel. And you can still get that v8...
@efibendor1
@efibendor1 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@herewegoagain7403
@herewegoagain7403 2 жыл бұрын
@@xctrack17 100% NOT a miss. All batteries goes bad, toyota has an easy way to replace it, Ford does not. it'll cost an arm and leg for the labor repair. And nobody even uses the inverter that much. Andre has the Ford and even said so.
@MrBobbyBrown2006
@MrBobbyBrown2006 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of all the changes, new engines and everything else... the most important thing is going to be price like Nathan mentioned near the end. If they mark this below Ford and Chevy, they are going to be successful with conquest sales. If they go above then their sales figures will mimic the last 10 years and at that point... what's the point of even having? Why spend all the time and money in R&D to bring out a truck that 80% of the truck buyers don't want. Price will determine the success.
@curtthrasher5599
@curtthrasher5599 2 жыл бұрын
I think the mileage is going to be impressive and the pricing good..
@eafan48
@eafan48 2 жыл бұрын
@@curtthrasher5599 That's the problem truck buyers are loyal, if the price isn't a couple grand cheaper than the big 3 it will never compete like the last tundra.
@The_Opinion_of_Matt
@The_Opinion_of_Matt 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct. I do have one idea as to why they redesigned. Unifying the platforms. They had to use the same frame, engine, transmission as the Land Cruiser; everything else had to be changed because of this.
@es4326
@es4326 2 жыл бұрын
No offence, but I hope you are wrong. If the most important thing to you is price, there are plenty of domestic vehicles available. The reason I have been a die hard fan of toyota my entire life is because real life usability and reliability has always been the "most important thing" to toyota. It's the reason I still drive a 30 year old toyota with over 400,000km that never let me down. Obviously we all want low prices, but in the end you get what you pay for.
@MrBobbyBrown2006
@MrBobbyBrown2006 2 жыл бұрын
@@es4326 You miss the entire point of my comment. You're saying something literally everyone already knows. This isn't about owning a vehicle for 30 years, it's about conquest sales. Getting new customers and more market share is the only thing that's going to ensure the Tundra has a long production life. They ate terribly low sales for more than a decade as a placeholder, and now it's their time to shine. They must do it, and getting new customers means having reasonable prices.
@craig42069
@craig42069 2 жыл бұрын
Tundradude confirmed with Toyota that the premium fuel footnote was a misprint and that the published power figures are using regular fuel.
@triggerhappyreviews
@triggerhappyreviews 2 жыл бұрын
It's enough to get me to purchase it. Huge disappointment that the hybrid isn't available until next spring.
@walldogger1
@walldogger1 2 жыл бұрын
It isn't enough to get me to BUY it though.
@DeathrocketX
@DeathrocketX 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for going over these details in this format. Very nice, with the photos being in there, it helps digest the information.
@The2ADays
@The2ADays 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan or powertrain and interior updates. Exterior design is cool, some lines are Tacoma-esk, which I like. Will look forward to actually seeing one on a dealer's lot.
@anthonynabozny665
@anthonynabozny665 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the new tundra. Inside and out this truck is awesome! The things I like about it…. it sounds like the power plant is tried and trued with all the testing they have done. It sounds like it’s going to have an immense amount of reliability versus its competitors. I also like the tech they developed around a super nice interior. After listening to chief engineer Mike Sweers I am very much sold on the capability, the reliability, and the longevity that I think this truck will have. My Ram will be replaced with a Tundra Limited with TRD off road package. I’m looking forward to towing with it!!
@kaikelii
@kaikelii 2 жыл бұрын
Im considering the same package too. I hear the Limited with TRD Off Road Package will have the Hybrid option which is a must for me. I dont care so much for the badging and suspension on the TRD Pro because I would probably change it anyways. All i want is the Hybrid, Rear Locker, and Crawl Control. Boom! TRD Off Road Limited!
@tylerwalk7699
@tylerwalk7699 2 жыл бұрын
Same could have been said for Ford and all the testing they did on the Ecoboost prior to its release, but real world and testing world is different
@tylerwalk7699
@tylerwalk7699 2 жыл бұрын
@Truth Only ok! You’re correct, Toyota is the best ever
@scottandrews4822
@scottandrews4822 Жыл бұрын
I think that you'll be disappointed with the service and towing life vs your Ram. They have had numerous issues with the new Tundra, like any new vehicle. The Ram is being moderately redesigned foe 2023. That's probably a safer bet for now IMHO.
@citizenpark2782
@citizenpark2782 2 жыл бұрын
I’m with Nathan, the looks are still growing on me.
@vinnybuffone6775
@vinnybuffone6775 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these podcasts, good job guys!
@joelawrence56
@joelawrence56 2 жыл бұрын
Great sync between you two guys here... great facts...great inputs...great questions!
@jimthumerzs2301
@jimthumerzs2301 2 жыл бұрын
I think your towing test will show that regardless of the EPA estimates, we lost the known reliability of the 5.7 in exchange for very little in the way of improvements to real-world fuel economy.
@Steve-yr5vi
@Steve-yr5vi 2 жыл бұрын
enough with the reliability, Toyota's are, at best marginally more reliable than others. And a key factor in the Tundra's reliability is owner surveys indicate Tundra's overwhelmingly are purchased as grocery getters.
@fl_atv_riders4455
@fl_atv_riders4455 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steve-yr5vi I would have to agree and disagree I would say Toyota is far more reliable than the big 3 up to 150k and then they pretty much have the same issues if worked. The biggest reason Toyota is much better is because they do not change the drive trains every year like the big 3 Ram has learned this they find something that works well and keeps it gm and ford change configuration of power trains like underwear
@bigcjm
@bigcjm 2 жыл бұрын
If they manage 5 or more mpg they'll be just fine. Thats alot of fuel savings on annual basis all by itself. If they crack 24 to 26 in the hybrid it makes reliability mute within reason.
@fl_atv_riders4455
@fl_atv_riders4455 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigcjm so a 2wd would get 20 and a 4x4 17 that's pretty poor considering both a f250 gas and 2500hd 4x4 gas gets 15-16mpg. I just want the diesel in them like all other countries get except us
@jimthumerzs6981
@jimthumerzs6981 2 жыл бұрын
Almost all trucks are used as grocery-getters and the domestics don't even hold up to that. I've had several Chevy and Dodge and had issues with all of them. I'll admit I haven't had a newer Ford, my ancient F250 was a good truck, but I'm hearing nothing good about the newer ones. I've never had serious issues with any of my Toyota vehicles. (I've never owned a Tundra) I've got a 15 year old 4Runner with 163K that runs and drives new.
@JHuffPhoto
@JHuffPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
They did enough for me to consider the Tundra as my next truck. I will be looking to see how the Platinum compares to other similarly equipped trucks from the competition. I will not even be considering the Nissan. Toyota durability/ reliability are certainly something that is worth weighing.
@mattgray6436
@mattgray6436 2 жыл бұрын
Other brands have more towing, payload, features like fords self driving and a better interior.
@JHuffPhoto
@JHuffPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattgray6436 You are correct that other manufacturers post the bigger numbers. However I will never be towing or hauling anywhere near a max load in a 1/2 ton truck. If I needed to tow or haul heavy I would get a heavy duty truck. As far as interior is concerned....well we will have to wait and see what the Toyota is actually like. I do like the F150 Platinum interior that I have now but I am willing to consider all of them when I buy next year. If I want to use self driving I will take my Tesla. I am just glad to see that Toyota is stepping up their game because it makes for better vehicles for us all to choose from.
@kaikelii
@kaikelii 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattgray6436 those brands also do not have the reliability and resale value of Toyota.
@loneapple440
@loneapple440 2 жыл бұрын
Great informative video and your channel is awesome. And, a great experience to start the day!
@larryhudson4967
@larryhudson4967 2 жыл бұрын
Very good work guys, thankyou for your well thought out impressions.
@JohnSmith-dj5gf
@JohnSmith-dj5gf 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll take mine in a blue, Limited, crew cab, 6.5’ bed, TRD offroad package, non-hybrid, with load leveling suspension
@dontelljackson9364
@dontelljackson9364 2 жыл бұрын
Preach. Hopefully with gray or tan leather.
@simonvance8054
@simonvance8054 2 жыл бұрын
Great choice...
@Bosha92
@Bosha92 2 жыл бұрын
583 Lb-Ft of Torque (most of any truck besides the TRX) if they can get 24-25 mpg I would say they did. Also it’s on regular gas (87)
@ARIN4UK
@ARIN4UK 2 жыл бұрын
It will be closer to 28-30mpg
@Ducs4life
@Ducs4life 2 жыл бұрын
Premium gas. They even discuss this in the vid. Toyota email says 91.
@Steve-yr5vi
@Steve-yr5vi 2 жыл бұрын
@@ARIN4UK No way, physics still applies the hybrid will manage better city numbers but highway mileage will be the same as the non-hybrid.
@fongvang935
@fongvang935 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steve-yr5vi yeah depends on the rear axle gearing though. if they go for like a 3.23, it could get 25ish on a good day, but suffers mpg when towing.
@Bosha92
@Bosha92 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ducs4life nah this was a typo the engineers on several other channels have said it was rated at 87 octane.
@jessehenry3751
@jessehenry3751 2 жыл бұрын
This 3.5 is due to the emissions change but dammm I loved the fact that it had that 5.7 ltr V8 the rest of the truck looks awesome I just wish this motor was in my tacoma and the 5.7 was in this tundra and for giggles twin turbo that
@dagdagiron17
@dagdagiron17 2 жыл бұрын
You guys stretched this particular convo out over an hour!! Lol good work. Im ready to see it on the road, ice, and ❄
@noahscott8609
@noahscott8609 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE iron that Colorado flag behind Andre.. all of us OCD people out here would really appreciate it. Other than that great podcast! 😄
@Chris-L-sr
@Chris-L-sr 2 жыл бұрын
Let's wait until the guys get one and run it up the Ike gauntlet , and see how it does compared to the big 3 ,,,,then I'll make my choice to keep my 2018 crew max or trade in for the new one
@darrenpaul1412
@darrenpaul1412 2 жыл бұрын
This is a BAD ASS looking truck... and I am not a truck guy.
@terryivanov9009
@terryivanov9009 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff guys, thank you 👍🏻
@ragnaroker85
@ragnaroker85 2 жыл бұрын
Love the format of this discussion. Enjoy watching other content creators reviews, pros, and cons. But you guys did it best, with your back and forth, keeping each other honest. Your experience with current, and older toyotas and the competition really rounds out this discussion.
@unknowndady
@unknowndady 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like you are holding hands at the beginning! So cute lol
@ScooterBlia2
@ScooterBlia2 2 жыл бұрын
Listened throughout almost the entire podcast. Great information and discussion.
@corygreen8226
@corygreen8226 2 жыл бұрын
Smaller grill and new bumper would look good!!
@cwqrpportable
@cwqrpportable 2 жыл бұрын
The result would be a Silverado or GMC.....
@herewegoagain7403
@herewegoagain7403 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like the hybrid battery under the seats. Easy to get to when replacing (bc all batteries fail at some point).Possible DIY low cost repair. Ford, you gotta get underneath, it's near the fuel tank and all that.... no thanks!
@badhombre8383
@badhombre8383 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason it’s in the cab is for temperature control to get more longevity. But yes definitely a plus when it comes to changing it. Which after owning a Prius will be at least 10 years or more down the road. If anyone actually keeps it that long. Most people that can afford a new tundra won’t be keeping it over 10 years I’d suspect.
@buckhorncortez
@buckhorncortez 2 жыл бұрын
You figure you're going to change the battery yourself? Really...
@badhombre8383
@badhombre8383 2 жыл бұрын
@@buckhorncortez why not??
@herewegoagain7403
@herewegoagain7403 2 жыл бұрын
@@buckhorncortez fun fact: some people work on their cars it’s not hard to change out a hybrid battery…especially in convenient locations. I’ve changed out a Prius battery pack before, u can literally KZfaq it 🤣🤣🤣
@benfilas6441
@benfilas6441 2 жыл бұрын
@@badhombre8383 good points for why it's using the rear seat storage, but personally, I'd rather have utilization of that rear seat storage for that 10 year period and deal with replacing the battery in a more difficult-to-access location down the road.
@drew3354
@drew3354 2 жыл бұрын
They love holding hands and long walks on the beach together. (Haha)
@phillipjoy8191
@phillipjoy8191 2 жыл бұрын
You got to love TFL.Enjoy the show. Thanks 😜
@davidjordan6378
@davidjordan6378 Жыл бұрын
Bought a 23 limited last week. Color is blueprint. It’s a beautiful truck i love it.
@tomminerick7197
@tomminerick7197 2 жыл бұрын
Fully boxed frame on Tundra! Watch and listen to minute 3:30 on previous video when the chief engineer explains it is now box and why.
@fjoco1
@fjoco1 2 жыл бұрын
It is a fully boxed frame.
@toobalicious
@toobalicious 2 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting to see how it pulls a heavy load up/down the Ike Gauntlet before I make any buying decision. I’m also concerned with total length (will it fit in my garage), cabin headroom (will I fit), and reliability of the new engine / platform (will it last).
@craigfisher2367
@craigfisher2367 2 жыл бұрын
Good point with the headroom I’m having Tacoma with a sunroof flashbacks
@mbukukanyau
@mbukukanyau 2 жыл бұрын
No serious truck person buys a Toyota
@JHuffPhoto
@JHuffPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@mbukukanyau So what is a "serious truck person?" Is that someone who gives their loyalty to a company that does not give a damn about them? Or is it someone that does not really care about the pros and cons of each product? I mean that is a ridiculous statement. I currently drive a Ford F150 but that does not mean that my next truck will be one. I will certainly consider the 4 top players in the US when it comes time. Even though I have had favorable experiences with my last two F150s that doesn't mean I won't buy a Tundra or a Sierra/Silverado or Ram. I will have to carefully consider each of them for their strengths and weaknesses. Obviously if I needed a 3/4 or 1 ton I would not consider a Toyota but I don't need a heavy duty truck and to buy one would be silly.
@curtthrasher5599
@curtthrasher5599 2 жыл бұрын
You're damm lucky if your garage fits one. I'll have to build a house for that.. and i think you may lose too much headroom with the sunroof. Especially in the back.
@captinbeyond
@captinbeyond 2 жыл бұрын
@@mbukukanyau I've driven Fords for over 20 years as they are the in-plant rental trucks we are given at work. I could write a book about the constant problems with them but the short story is I would never own one personally. They barely get broke in good before the problems begin and in the shop all the time.
@stanfordbanks3399
@stanfordbanks3399 2 жыл бұрын
First of all I love you guys. I watch your channel because it does help me better understand the trucks and their capabilities before I buy. Now with all that said it's time for your show to start setting up these trucks with the same off road tires with like speaks so we can see who is best on road, mud, sand, rocks, gas mileage, tow and snow. I believe the only changes you would need to make are tires, close gearing and ride height. If you put ten to fifteen videos together showing these trucks in sand, mud, road, towing, rocks, milage and snow views like myself will be glued to your videos and most likely they will become most viewed... Thanks for reading and good luck guys... The Banks Family
@falconator3419
@falconator3419 2 жыл бұрын
As a long time 2014 Tundra owner I can honestly say I actually love the overall design of the truck inside and out. What I didn’t like is that they’re not offering a V8 configuration.
@jessehenry3751
@jessehenry3751 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly ....it's a full size truck not a tacoma.
@herbwheeler4470
@herbwheeler4470 2 жыл бұрын
Small displacement turbos are going to be the norm everywhere sooner rather than later.
@SuperSnakePlissken
@SuperSnakePlissken 2 жыл бұрын
I think Toyota did a fantastic job catching up to all the 2019 trucks out there.
@herewegoagain7403
@herewegoagain7403 2 жыл бұрын
yes, all those trucks have to do a refresh every 2 years whereas Toyota just does it every 15years because it's just that good and reliable. Fantastic job Toyota
@SuperSnakePlissken
@SuperSnakePlissken 2 жыл бұрын
@@herewegoagain7403 That's nice and all but 15 year changes and relability clearly don't get you that many sales. Toyota didn't do anything here to push into the top 3 let alone be super competitive...and that's coming from a current Tundra owner.
@herewegoagain7403
@herewegoagain7403 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSnakePlissken Fun fact: Toyota already have a vast line up. The truck lineup isn't the focus, it's more of a hobby to them. It's not competition with the big 3 otherwise they'll introduce heavy duty. Plan is to stay in their own lane of the avg Joe and stay true to reliability. That's cute, the "low sales" number doesn't reflect how good the tundra is.... if toyota switched their market into trucks, it's over for the big 3. And this is coming from a current F150 owner.
@johnkenley4687
@johnkenley4687 2 жыл бұрын
@@herewegoagain7403 they don't do it because its "just that good and reliable", they do it because most tundra owners are complacent in comparison to big 3 owners when it comes to how they think of their truck. The tundra is a lifestyle vehicle more than it is an actual working man's truck. As far as this trucks relation to the big 3 go, it's nothing more than a catch up. Problem is Toyota being Toyota, its already foreshadowing obsolescence, and thats why if they did take the big 3 seriously, they'd fail. They can't afford to do the 4-5 year refreshing the big 3 can, while also topping them out in the numbers game. The big 3 is a whole different ball game in comparison to what toyotas philosophy is. Toyota doesnt do class leading numbers. People don't buy the big 3 for reliability, they do it for show. In 3 years, they're already moving on to another new truck to look on top. You can't do that with a tundra when its going to be the same thing 15 years in a row.
@herewegoagain7403
@herewegoagain7403 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnkenley4687 are you suggesting Toyota doesn’t have innovation?? LOL Toyota leads in innovation and development. (Ie: hybrid, Hydrogen power, hybrid performance- lemans24, etc). They have plenty of new tech, they don’t want to introduce it until they test it extensively first. Hence reliability. You think the most rich and successful car company in the world doesn’t have research and development for the future?? I said, the market is not trucks. It’s a hobby. You won’t be seeing “new” tech in there. But you bet the tech will be tried and true. I bet you the big 3 “new tech” is already achieved by Toyota. They dont need to release it and use gimmicks like inverters and tailgate wars 🤣🤣🤣
@andy-ec8xv
@andy-ec8xv 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for my 1st truck that will initially be used to pull a 6500 lb travel trailer. The F150 powerboost w/ on board generator and a battery that doesn't take up floor space under the back seat is swaying me in favor of the Ford.
@lemuelsrandomworkvideos4259
@lemuelsrandomworkvideos4259 2 жыл бұрын
Do you want to pay some one when the battery finally goes bad to remove the cab to access battery vs the Tundra since it's not lithium ion a lot less chance of catching fire plus its a simple remove replace battery.
@Albert-777
@Albert-777 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are so cool👍🏼, I appreciate all the 411🙏🏼✌🏼
@livingworkingoutsidebox
@livingworkingoutsidebox 2 жыл бұрын
Like, how you present everything showing both the positive and short commings.
@brentworls8509
@brentworls8509 2 жыл бұрын
Andre's choice to buy an F-150 Hybrid looks better every day. Base model, 7500kw outlet, FX4 locker, everything needed, nothing not needed. Better price point.
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely, but now days everyone wants a half ton truck with the interior of a Mercedes-Benz to tow 13,000lbs and have 3,000lbs of payload, go 0-60 in 4 seconds and ride like a luxury car and get the fuel economy of a prius.
@brentworls8509
@brentworls8509 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix For under $40k.
@brentworls8509
@brentworls8509 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix I just want a real-sized bed, rear locker, offroad skidplates and shocks, and adaptive cruise on a low-end interior. I don't want a screen larger than 6-7".
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 2 жыл бұрын
@@brentworls8509 me too. Anything bigger is just too much light for night driving. I certainly dont want touch screen climate control. Its a pain enough as it is just operating the radio if the road isnt smooth.
@brentworls8509
@brentworls8509 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix My wife's Jeep Cherokee has touch screen climate, and I really don't like it. Having to go through screens to turn on or off the heated seats is ridiculous.
@rerod650
@rerod650 2 жыл бұрын
Lack of inverter is a big miss for the hybrid. That’s one of the big attractors to the f150 hybrid. Not liking the giant front grill. Also, is there no front tow hooks? Big miss there for off-roading
@CaseyCollier
@CaseyCollier 2 жыл бұрын
@Daniel G You're missing the point he's making. Nobody uses their generator every day, but it's invaluable in those instances when you do need it. It's also very convenient to not have to buy a separate generator (which isn't cheap) and keep it in your bed, which takes up space.
@jeffduncan2942
@jeffduncan2942 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you do more practical trailer along with The Gauntlet so we can see real pulling, power feedback, and real all round towing MPG. This will probably be your most anticipated testing ever!
@Mursedave
@Mursedave 2 жыл бұрын
Great show guys! I’m not a Yota guy at all, but the Tundra does look pretty sweet in person. Especially with some aftermarket wheels and tires.
@thebeddoctor4273
@thebeddoctor4273 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really like it. But ill have to see it in person and drive it for a final opinion
@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel
@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel 2 жыл бұрын
We went out and bought a 2021 Tundra Crewmax before they got rid of the V8. Not interested in adding more complexity with the twin turbo V6s or hybrid. Would have gone with a Ford Lightning but didn't want to wait two or three years even though we put down a deposit June 1st.
@chrisi6776
@chrisi6776 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the same thing. I'm not convinced of the new 2022 Tundra and not sure I can wait 2-3 years for the Lightning which I really want. In NorCal, it's good to have a backup power supply with rolling blackouts. I put a down payment on the Lightning but I'm number 11.5 million on the waitlist. LOL.
@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel
@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisi6776 the numbering system is kinda weird. They only have 150,000 reservations at this point. We did our reservation June first and it's something like 10 million. So there's something weird with their system. The lowest reservation number posted in the Lightning Facebook group so far is 10,814,188.
@jayw8768
@jayw8768 2 жыл бұрын
Funniest part of that whole video Nathan explaining some lithium batteries from other co have caught fire. Andre- Yes I have storage under my back seat. Ford put my lithium battery along the frame rail by the fuel tank. Nathan- Yeaohhhhhhhhh ok! Andre- What? Nathan- Nothin. 😂 🤪😂
@shakubob
@shakubob 4 ай бұрын
The grill looks like he’s in the dentist chair, when the dentist is about to take pictures. 😂
@wrongsend7106
@wrongsend7106 2 жыл бұрын
Where’s the front bumper . Is that part of the whole grill. Looks weird.
@NUNER1
@NUNER1 2 жыл бұрын
I agree they should have painted the bottom bumper instead of being cheap and saving $ on paint!
@ant208
@ant208 2 жыл бұрын
That lower part of the front bumper is way to bulky, can't see that working well off-road Looks really awkward, think it's over designed like supra
@herewegoagain7403
@herewegoagain7403 2 жыл бұрын
looks weird now but it grows on you. just you wait
@ohioguy4326
@ohioguy4326 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest gripe is the loss of underseat storage on the hybrid, I keep everything under my back seats LOL. Oh well I guess I will save a few bucks and get the standard engine.
@Anonymous01416
@Anonymous01416 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing I see, I personally want the none hybrid. Wish they made the TRD pro with a none hybrid option! So platinum might be what'll go for but I also read 1794 will also have an option for with and without hybrid.
@fredmagic09
@fredmagic09 2 жыл бұрын
Well.....it is hybrid. If you want storage, get the non-hybrid version. Problem solved.
@scholz222
@scholz222 2 жыл бұрын
Good work guys
@joshuafredrickson3223
@joshuafredrickson3223 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way that truck looks.
@jdmrider
@jdmrider 2 жыл бұрын
How long will that power last on the hybrid before the battery needs to regen and drop back down to just motor numbers.
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on how you drive it. A heaby foot under stop and go traffic will definitely deplete it faster, but if you drive it with a light foot, release the gas and let the regenerative braking slow it down and keeo a good steady speed it will do pretty well I think.
@apexcapital1328
@apexcapital1328 2 жыл бұрын
I’m kinda glad they will bring the TRD Pro out a bit later since that’s the one I want. Meaning they will have time to get any production bugs fix before their top tier product comes out.
@Robinson0424
@Robinson0424 2 жыл бұрын
I am a huge Toyota fan, it’s hard to tell but I agree time will show whether or not their move worked out. Nathan, you’re totally right in regards pricing on trucks is astronomical. I have a setup budget and based on that no truck should be worth more than 40k. Don’t care about options because the main purpose of buying one is just to haul and ride comfortably. Thanks fellas, love the video!
@jamessachs224
@jamessachs224 2 жыл бұрын
I think it looks good enough to compete and agree they at least moved it forward to complete with the rest of the pack. I think they will be able to maintain current sales volume.
@carguy1050
@carguy1050 2 жыл бұрын
I've been diehard Toyota truck fan for 25+ years. I do like the new Tundra but my disappointment with Toyota is growing. In the fiercely competitive truck market Toyota has, at best, caught up to the competition. Toyota's fans have been waiting for an eternity for the redesigned Tundra. The" big reveal" included: NO EPA fuel ratings, NO diesel option, NO ordering configurator, NO pricing, a hybrid battery system consuming interior storage (wtf), and then news the flagship hybrid power train and PRO model are unavailable for ??? months. All of the marketing hype can't hide the lack of substance. So disappointing.
@garcia222008
@garcia222008 2 жыл бұрын
I love the truck. As soon as I can put a deposit down, I will do it. I am loving the new TRD Pro. If the msrp seems reasonable compared to other msrps of other truck companies, I think it's worth it. What will he tricky, is finding an honest dealership that won't be charging a crazy "adjusted market value". 🤔
@joeluongo6079
@joeluongo6079 2 жыл бұрын
I put a deposit down the day after the commercial came out
@BPJac
@BPJac 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the higher output outlet in the bed will come with future updates - they have to leave room for improvement since this platform is what we have for the next 15 years.
@JayD_626
@JayD_626 2 жыл бұрын
Good review guys
@LuisDiaz-oe2lj
@LuisDiaz-oe2lj 2 жыл бұрын
Why no tow hooks on front?
@ARIN4UK
@ARIN4UK 2 жыл бұрын
Does suck, but at least we can add our own.
@MXDRE907
@MXDRE907 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota has over promised / under delivered. Not exactly the “World Beater” they claimed it would be. Let’s see how good the the fuel economy and pricing is. I won’t get my hopes up
@competitiveautomotive5457
@competitiveautomotive5457 2 жыл бұрын
I knew that the world beater claim was just absurd and I was right
@mundocabrera7007
@mundocabrera7007 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the info but I havent seen any of these trucks going through tough long grass and sandy terrain hopefully you guys could do a vid on this kind of terrain for these trucks.
@CarlosMendoza-qn6mj
@CarlosMendoza-qn6mj 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait till you guys get to drive a Tundra iforce max and do a real world review. I really want to see the power of the max. I definitely agree all these years waiting to make a new truck they could of made a truck to beat all the competition.
@thomasbenefield3527
@thomasbenefield3527 2 жыл бұрын
I pick up my 21 TRD Pro this week. I’m interested in the 22. Not sure about the looks yet……. The hybrid power train sounds great! Disappointed no Auto 4WD. I use it in my current Chevy often.
@pat2430
@pat2430 2 жыл бұрын
I love the design, the power train not so much. I love my V8
@thomasbenefield3527
@thomasbenefield3527 2 жыл бұрын
@@pat2430 I understand that. My 21 pro will be here this week. I like the power of the hybrid though. And the torque curve of a diesel but with no turbo lag.
@stevewilcoxson7173
@stevewilcoxson7173 2 жыл бұрын
That is Toyota for you. They March to the Beat of a Different Drummer.
@JeepCherokeeful
@JeepCherokeeful 2 жыл бұрын
One of failure?
@lukestoyz
@lukestoyz 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeepCherokeeful No. that’s what Chrysler did
@JeepCherokeeful
@JeepCherokeeful 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukestoyz NSX, LS, Tundra, FJ Cruiser, Supra that’s a lot IMO. Chrysler? How is that comparable?
@dynasty2295
@dynasty2295 2 жыл бұрын
I still have an 07 4runner v8 limited... tried and true 👍 If this Tundra does well I'll pick one up in 2-3 years
@mbukukanyau
@mbukukanyau 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 1979 K10 V8, Proven reliability .
@doobedi
@doobedi 2 жыл бұрын
That pick up truck looks AWESOMEEEEE !! They took the crown 👑 for the most styliest pickup truck in 2021 /2022.
@gordboyko769
@gordboyko769 2 жыл бұрын
I like the look overall. Wish it had more of an actual front bumper . But it’s a good looking truck . Absolutely love the interior ! Nicest interior of any truck in my opinion. Where they fell short for me is no v8 .. I dont care how many turbos you add and what the HP and torque numbers are . There is no replacement for displacement. For towing ... especially engine braking .. I want a V8 . Another thing they missed huge on is no type of tailgate step . I’m in a ford right now ... and I use the tailgate step and integrated loading ramps on a weekly basis for loading dirt bikes . Everyone else has one ... why did Toyota ignore the tailgate step ?
@imnottellinudontwannaknow3188
@imnottellinudontwannaknow3188 2 жыл бұрын
they kinda have a step but its power fold out from the bumper
@Amayi1
@Amayi1 2 жыл бұрын
". I dont care how many turbos you add and what the HP and torque numbers are . There is no replacement for displacement." This is a self-defeating statement if I ever saw one. If power is made in prodigious amounts from a smaller 3.5-liter engine, and we are going from a 5.7 liter V8 that cannot compete, how and why do people keep regurgitating that same tired phrase, over and over?? Your argument is just that you prefer a V8 of which there is absolutely nothing wrong with that preference. But for love of physics please stop with proven time and again that displacement is no guarantee of superiority. We have seen smaller displacement force-fed engines in all kinds of road cars and race cars that, by the laws of physics, strongly disagree.
@gordboyko769
@gordboyko769 2 жыл бұрын
@@Amayi1 I am not speaking of only go and torque . I am well aware of how a turbo works , and the power and efficiency of these smaller turbo v6 engines . Although I am still not sold on the longevity of these engines when towing heaving loads day in and day out . But even if we assume the engineers got it right and these engines will last ... where they can never compete with a v8 for real truck duty is while towing and using the engine to be your brakes going down mountain passes with a heavy load. The smaller v6 simply does not have the displacement for this. I have driven many many miles in F150’s with both the 5.0 v8 .. and both ecoboost v6’s. And even empty without a trailer ... I find the v6’s tend to want to run away in you while coming down long mountain grades . So for this reason alone .. I am not a fan of these smaller turbo engines .
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 2 жыл бұрын
@@Amayi1 2JZ-GTE definitely comes to mind. That thing will reliably hold 1,000hp on stock internals. A well designed smaller engine can be durable. Might have to replace turbos here and there depending on how you drive it. The key is to always let it idle for a bit before turning the engine off to let the turbo cool down. That and regular oil changes with good oil are the key to turbo longevity.
@davidcox2197
@davidcox2197 2 жыл бұрын
@@gordboyko769 Gear it down on downhills, I do regularly when towing.
@Lousboys
@Lousboys 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope Toyota offers better than a 400 watt inverter in the Tundra at some point.
@herewegoagain7403
@herewegoagain7403 2 жыл бұрын
why? no one uses it and it's another expensive failure point when I can just use that "inverter" option $$ and buy me a reliable portable Honda generator and carry it on the bed. Even Andre said he doesn't even use it and he owns a Ford.
@e1975surf
@e1975surf 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful truck still not convinced 14 years to develop a Full size truck …..being a Toyota customer (4 Toyotas Tacoma, 1 Nissan Frontier)…I ended buying a RAM Rebel recently …which is an absolute beast..... The e-torque system is very efficient. The RAM boxes are very helpful for storage...in the bed side you don't have these storage consuming space...power is unquestionable... technology wise no complaints...so let's wait to see how it unfold this new truck... they will sell for sure there is a sector of customers waiting for it...
@goingpostal8760
@goingpostal8760 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously the truck looks like a cross breed of a Ford/Nissan no issues with the power plant. I love my 2018 Tundra
@steveleo7332
@steveleo7332 2 жыл бұрын
As a tacoma owner who wants to stay with a toyota they did enough for me as im assuming the mpg will be improved, which was the reason I never got a tundra
@edgerat
@edgerat 2 жыл бұрын
same
@toobalicious
@toobalicious 2 жыл бұрын
Based on the interview with the Chief Engineer, I believe you can (roughly) calculate the mileage. He was focused more on range and less on MPG. So, take the previous version’s 17 MPG with a 38 Gallon tank - and that gets you about 646 miles. This version has a 32 Gallon tank, so if you do some “fancy math” with the same range, it gives you 20.2 MPG. I’m betting that I’m pretty close…
@curtthrasher5599
@curtthrasher5599 2 жыл бұрын
The mileage is going to be impressive. Just my guess.
@fifthward1983
@fifthward1983 2 жыл бұрын
as a tacoma owner i didnt care about mpg ,im not a broke kid. i asked the dealership if i could order a tacoma with a v8,they told me no so i got the 6 .
@edgerat
@edgerat 2 жыл бұрын
@@fifthward1983 congrats on winning the lottery and having enough cash to blindly spend whatever on gas.
@karmanautoreview
@karmanautoreview 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing surpasses F150 and Ram. The under seat battery is an afterthought fix seems they didn't want hybrid until saw f150 powerbòost. No 4 corner air springs. The rear two doors are steel to cut cost instead of to cut weight, Chevy has all the four doors of aluminum.
@karmanautoreview
@karmanautoreview 2 жыл бұрын
@Daniel G you didn't listen to the two guys talking about the battery position. These two are nice guys, kindly mentioned F150 has it in the frame. The benefits are lower center of gravity and space in cabin.
@ITh4n4tosI
@ITh4n4tosI 2 жыл бұрын
Something to think of with lithium is they don't do temperature very well. So to get a lithium it would probably be outside the cab for safety and then has to be heated and cooled with the cars HVAC system
@ramcummins7879
@ramcummins7879 2 жыл бұрын
Ill wait for that IKE Gauntlet test, I saw one of those RAM TRX on the highway , Man that V8 sounds good , here my little 3.5 ecoboost
@rafardzrba
@rafardzrba 2 жыл бұрын
I like this new Tayota.
@AUav8r05
@AUav8r05 2 жыл бұрын
I’m the first in line at my dealer with deposit down for a Pro. Really hope the price increase isn’t putting it in Tremor/Raptor territory. Leaning Tundra, but will heavily consider the F-150 offerings until we know all the Tundra specs.
@Ptro1
@Ptro1 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you put a deposit down?
@curtthrasher5599
@curtthrasher5599 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually not expecting a big jump in pricing. And on a positive note. A Tundra will last twice as long as a Raptor.
@AUav8r05
@AUav8r05 2 жыл бұрын
@@curtthrasher5599 me too.. I think the Pro will come in around 60k or so at least what my dealers and the others I’ve talked to have indicated. Fingers crossed.. will be my 4th Toyota product. 2 4Runners and a GX460. Bulletproof!
@user-pt6io2cq9n
@user-pt6io2cq9n 2 жыл бұрын
@@AUav8r05 It has to come in around $60k fully loaded for a Trd Pro. The 2021 Raptor starts at a touch over $64k and this is nowhere near being a Raptor competitor.
@AUav8r05
@AUav8r05 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-pt6io2cq9n I would tend to agree!
@ibrahimbashir6634
@ibrahimbashir6634 2 жыл бұрын
Efficiency will surely be better than others !! Increase the tow and payload capacity !! Multifunctional tailgate will be great and add front tow hooks ....
@kclamer
@kclamer 2 жыл бұрын
Love Nathan and Andrey doing the show. None of the fanboy nonsense that Roman always goes through. Богатырь Андрей 🇷🇺
@dirtdog726
@dirtdog726 2 жыл бұрын
Im a big time Tundra fan. I like a lot of the upgrades but I'm not too sure of the exterior design. I'll have to see it in person to before I put my money down.
@peaceable263
@peaceable263 2 жыл бұрын
I like the exterior redesign but what erks me is that massive chin and the chrome. I've always hated chrome. It is blinding.
@dirtdog726
@dirtdog726 2 жыл бұрын
I agree about the chrome. Especially the horse shoe shape around the grill of the Limited. Because of this one of the best looking trims is the SR5. The SR5 with a few options may be the way to go I would like to see this in other colors also.
@dirtdog726
@dirtdog726 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not ready for a Ford yet. I've already owned one of these before.
@chrismckenna482
@chrismckenna482 2 жыл бұрын
HD tundra diesel with 10 speed transmission in year 3 revision or 5.7 limited production
@buckyhurford3424
@buckyhurford3424 2 жыл бұрын
I have now owned 2006 tundra off road, 2011 and 2012 TRD rock warriors and 2016 TRD off road. I have owned many other vehicles other than Toyota but have never been left stranded without towing and risking the limits of my yotas. Wish they would produce a competitive wild tundra to the raptor or the Trx but the numbers don’t lie these days. Toyota is playing smart for the future
@jasonguy6572
@jasonguy6572 2 жыл бұрын
Can i get a 3 minute recap of the events? lol
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