He does not respect her. It’s really jarring… he laughs at her when she’s trying to be honest and explain her point. Also, he has no reason to not want her to keep her name. This is all just bully behavior. Ick.

He's so misogynistic. I dont know how there are still women that put up with this treatment, i have zero patience for it.

The way he laughs at her about giving birth just to be demeaning and make her upset. Ugh I'd run away with the child so fast. The actual kid not man child to be clear.

LAUGHING while your spouse shares with you how unappreciated they feel is so cruel. That boy needs to be knocked down a few pegs. Everything i saw in those clips are strong signs of an extremely unhealthy/unbalanced relationship. It’s like watching someone with Stockholm’s Syndrome and their ab*ser having a conversation. 😞

He expects a thank you? That’s gross, he should be doing his share of the chores, he’d have to do it all alone if he lived alone. And I felt so uncomfortable watching that first clip, it felt like I was a third wheel in that argument

They’re just incompatible, point blank. Different opinions on household labor division, different opinions on names after marriage, not attracted to each other. And we don’t need to see them hash out the arguments online. It’s not content, it’s not entertainment. It’s just a waste of time.

this podcast is like the wifes way of trying to say she is not happy w the relationship lol

He expects a thank you bc he’s already put all of those responsibilities on her. He seems like the type of person to say “well I make the money therefore you handle everything else”

I like it when podcasts talk directly to me and explain things! not when I feel like some third wheel. A lot of these podcasts are just echo chambers of mainstream problematic, or contrarian opinions.

I have seen couples during a disagreement and still think “awww it must be nice to evolve together and be in a relationship.” Then I see others and think, “Thank God am I am single.” It is like seeing the Red, White, and Royal Blue vs Kissing Booth.

I knew a couple like this in real life. They genuinely acted and behaved as though they hated each other and would say “it’s just our sense of humor”. My partner and I hung out with them once, where in which the guy was being so blatantly disrespectful to the girl that I quietly let my partner know that I wanted to leave. We’ve never hung out with them again. To my knowledge, the guy took a shittier job in another state and girl went with him despite not wanting to move to the other state, and they bought a house. They plan on having kids!

I feel like online couples forget that they are showing off their whole relation for the whole world to see and that people will judge you when you do that. If you do things that is commonly deemed toxic and post it people will point it out no matter the context and if you act like something is wrong within the relationship people will think something is wrong and ask questions, that is what you sign up for when you choose to show off your relationship for the whole world to see.

When I see one person getting upset and the other laughing. I just have to leave. I get that they’re “joking”, I’ve dealt with this kind of “joking” and it was really just jabs that they masquerade as “jokes”. And not to mention it makes others uncomfortable; if you want to argue keep me and my anxious self out of it.

Just want to clarify that in England, this is not banter. If u saw a couple talking like this in public, it would be read as an argument. There's no playfulness in tone, body language or words here. Not even exaggerating for comedic effect, which can still be seen during arguments but is often used during banter

Their podcast should be called 'A Tolerable Level of Unhappiness"

In the brief clip you showed, I don’t even get how people find this entertaining. “Boiling resentment” is interesting to say because that’s exactly how their broadcasted arguments sound. I’m sure these aren’t new things they’ve discussed, and the fact that they’re both clinging to a relationship that has this overall vibe to it feels icky to witness. If the dry humor is their form of entertainment for themselves, that’s on them. But idk how they expect anyone else to find their weird podcasts enjoyable.

I hate watching anything that’s awkward/makes me uncomfortable. I will even leave the room during awkward scenes in movies. This video is making me so uncomfortable 😂

ethans just the average uk lad to be honest, like 50% of men ive ever met have that exact same personality. its definitely uncomfortable dealing with them

In Ireland, we'd say he went from mammy to mammy. His mother did everything for him then he probably suffered a bit when he went to college for a few years until he meets a girl who does everything like his mum and he relaxes and settles because its familiar and handy. My own father did that. Id to show him how to use a washing machine at 63 years of age. He cant cook for himself let alone a group of people and doesnt know bleach from a regular cleaner.

I knew a couple like this. I loved them and tried to be comfortable around them. It took years for me to get to a place where I could be around them without having a fear response coursing through my body when they started in on each other. And it turned out that it was a relationship that was abusive in many scary ways.

Grew up watching Ethan and I live in the UK, it's kind of British banter but imo it's definitely rooted in misogyny. Not that surprised at how much of an arsehole Ethan is though after having watched him for years, sadly

I feel like anyone who is adamant that their partner should take their name needs to do some deep reflection on what makes them feel that way.

No humor here, it’s just uncomfortable !!

I knew a couple like this.. it was horrible. Stopped hanging out with them, bc it was super uncomfortable.

The whole thing about him refusing to propose if she won’t take his last name is pathetic and bizarre. I’ve known since I was a little girl that I would keep my own name no matter what. Anyone who won’t respect that can get fugg’d on.

Uncomfortable? Yes. But also, boring af! Why should I gaf about your personal squabbles?

I was in a relationship like this many years ago. It's very uncomfortable to watch. It's often verbatim how we spoke to each other. It didn't last, and I think we're both better off.

I'm convinced many couples secretly resent each other. I know a pair who argues like this. They will argue about literally nothing. One time I witnessed one tell the other to "shut the fuck up". I immediately pretended like I needed something in the other room bc I couldn't keep a poker face. The initial reaction is "IDK why these people stay together" but in reality I do know the answer... codependency.

Omg I got trapped in a house one time (I was drunk and couldn’t drive home… didn’t have money for a cab) with a friend and her husband having this absolute blow out of a fight. They were both drunk. They were screaming at each other. Calling each other horrific things. It was the worst!!!! They actually got divorced a few months later 😳🙏🏻😂

That guy's body language even confirms that he is beyond lazy and expects her to take care of most of the labor in the household. Even if you frame it as your "humor ", people use humor as a way to be passive aggressive, defensive and just rude. Gross.

I loved how you said that if you let things build, they’re might be issues. So true

My aunt & uncle have pretend arguments almost every time I’ve seen them, but I can’t remember there ever being a time where they weren’t joking. I’m autistic so I can have a lot of trouble recognizing what is & isn’t a joke, & growing up in New Jersey where there’s a prevalence of sarcasm has both helped me learn to understand social cues & confused me a lot. With the couple in this podcast I really don’t think they’re joking based on what I’ve observed from my family. Of course not every couple with dry humor will be the same, but I can’t see any signs that they’re joking here other than some awkward laughter. I see much more on the contrary, with how distant they are with each other, the subject matter they’re arguing about, & how public their feuds are

I dated a guy like this when it came to cleaning. He'd not pick anything up. Like I began putting obvious dirty clothes trash etc in another wise clean home. He spends more energy stepping over it but would claim he didn't see the trash. 🤷‍♀️ Couldn't even remain friends as he'd leave half drunk soda cans and Taco Bell wrappers. Got so I'd throw his trash he left my house and his front lawn.

He’s just disrespectful and covers it up by saying it’s a joke

I feel like they just are not compatible at all and the conversations they have on their podcast are conversations you should have already had before having a kid

The vibe I'm getting is that there's actual resentment behind it, but both of them dismiss it as just humor because they don't want to actually face their problems or make a change to their lives.

...when you start a podcast instead of going to therapy lmao ok but fr tho like,,, the way that man talks over her REPEATEDLY and keeps saying shit like "oh u wanna do this now" and "I let you finish" THE LATTER WHICH HE SAYS WHILE LITERALLY NOT LETTING HER FUCKING FINISH MAKING HER POINT. also,, just PSA to women going into hetero relationships with men: if you are not okay with your partner assuming that this is how the division of household chores will work, DO NOT DO IT. like if you don't intend to be responsible for the majority of household labour, START the relationship with that explicit expectation clearly set because otherwise an unfortunately large percentage of people raised as men will probably default to expecting that shit FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE RELATIONSHIP and it's just gonna suck for everyone involved so please yall just try not to set up those expectations or you might end up having this boomer ass argument with your partner

Maybe they make this content so people feel better about their own relationship, I know I do after watching these clips

I think it's hard to see their arguments as a joke because they are real arguments that commonly come up in toxic relationships. If you've been in or closely witnessed a relationship (like your parents) where one person is doing all the labour and the other is doing fuck all, their fighting is going to seem more like a cry for help than a bit. I can't help but think "girl, you good? Blink twice if you want out!"

I think this is similar to 24 hour streamers….they wanna show all aspects and real moments of their life but we aren’t meant to have our whole lives on display. It’s very destructive, and that’s putting aside their relationship problems.

They should just send their podcast to a couples therapist and go from there. I remember a vid of Kat Stickler and her husband filming her during an argument and feeling so bad for her. Then I found out they’d divorced and he’s impregnated some other poor woman 😅

They don't even seem to like each other. It's like epic negging. Thanks, I hate it. :P

He gives off toxic masculinity assholeness. Their dynamic comes off uncomfortable. If this is reality, I feel bad for her. If they’re just playing up characters, it’s stupid. At the same time, seems like there’s lack of communication and boundary setting with them

They are so toxic and it’s so apparent to everybody except themselves. We all know couples like this, and they don’t usually acknowledge there’s a problem until after they’ve broken up.

I have a lot to say on this topic so if people want to read, that's fine, but the TL;DR is this gives me PTSD vibes of having a guy like that as a stepdad. Worst years of my life. I don't like this idea that giving people a 'realistic' view of marriage or even just romantic relationships means putting out your personal arguments in front of the public and passing them off as 'no big deal' when you're clearly at such massive odds with each other over something. I totally respect her in terms of her reasons for wanting to keep her name even if it means hyphenating, since it's what I plan on doing if/when I marry (I mean, I literally changed my whole IRL name once already, I'm not giving it up that easily). But I know there's a time and a place for difficult discussions and serious topics with my own partner, and it's not in public venues or even just when we're around friends. Getting cranky because I'm tired or feeling like I'm not being listened to is one thing, but this... just no, man.

It's either fake or they have no intentions of actually fixing any of their problems & this is a way to avoid responsibility for their own unhappiness.

To me, dry humor is a lacking of emotional cues. More of a disconnected or uncaring delivery style. This exasperated back and forth they have looks more like festering issues sort of bubbling up and being called "joking" later. It kinda gives me the creeps.

If its humor, whats the joke? Is it satire? Cus then i could understand but im genuinely asking.

Love you, thank you for all you for us🖤

he treats her like a piece of property

lol I commented about that too early Wait until you see the clip about her wanting to include both of their surnames if they get married. He says no he'll never do that because he thinks it's disrespectful to include hers? He keeps saying "she doesnt want to take my surname" multiple times while she shouts she wants both because its her name. He said something along the lines of he'd rather not get married than include her surname. Even worse is the comment section, men saying she should take it because she uses his money and that she is just a women? Yet she has her own job and millions in the bank. Its actually crazy.

They're going to divorce and they know it 😂

I think this is the earliest I've ever been.

that first clip made me think of my ex and I's relationship which was toxic at the very least and ruined my mental health. Also with taking his last name, why don't they just hyphenate if it's such a big deal like thats an option

You know someone is making a stellar point when their entire defense is "No."

He’s gaslighting her. He cant even listen to her with out talking

I think it's 50 percent issues, 50 percent being British (coming from a Brit) Edit: Okay, yeah, after seeing more clips, this is a particular brand of straight couple in Britain in that age range. I've met 100s of these. I'm not saying it's everyone, but this kind of dynamic is pretty common

I can't finish this, it makes me too angry

On the name thing, here in Québec no girl would ever take their husband's name. This thing died out in the 50's. Even older generations had a chance to revert back at some point. My grandma of 90 year old has her maiden name back even if she was never divorced. This whole thing seems sooo conservative to us, like are we living the 30's?

drink everytime glare says "let me be clear"

This makes me so uncomfortable. If you have something that seems serious, have that conversation in private.

Watching the clips from the podcast were hard to watch. I feel like I’m watching argument(s) they’ve had many many times…

Another one! From Family Guy, when the gang is at the Clam and Joe start crying and they all made their escape in peculiar method... this is me right now listening to this....

So are we really at the point of loneliness where we will watch a couple fight as "content" ?

i only know ethan from the sidemen and he’s def “one of the boys” and this doesnt surprise me. it’s a shame they have a kid cuz when they started dating it very much felt like it was all lust and nothing else anytime he mentioned her.

I had the same stance on changing my last name, I opted to hyphenate. And my husband supported that. I would be so sad if that was his reaction. He probably wouldnt have become my husband, that's for sure

I don't want to come to any conclusion because I know nothing about these people, other then what is in this video. I feel like it's possibly just dry humor and banter, which is a thing between some people. But some of it does sound and feel mean spirited. But I don't know these people well enough to make jump to any conclusions.

This is having fights but monetizing it which is weird

The fact that this is what goes on in a lot of households explains the divorce rates and “I love girl dinner”.

This is a very one sided relationship from what we are being shown… sigh. SO uncomfortable to be around people like this. I feel like they use the podcast as a way to “get it all out there” without becoming a fight and can say “it’s our humor” this way too. Ther is a REAL issue here. I know UK humor is very different to US humor. I have the same type of humor. But imho, you can see/hear/feel the “real” resentments and passive aggressiveness in all these conversations. It makes me feel icky.

I’ve met a couple that was like that not only to each other but they were friends of a friend of mine and constantly roasted him while we were sitting in the car and he was just silently taking it. I obviously didn’t want to see them again. When we were alone the wife gossiped about her husband and it was very uncomfortable as well

Idc if it's "a British thing, you wouldn't understand" and I don't care for the "your parents argue" bull. It's just the ick.

YES! When she painted the scene about been out with a couple that start bickering... Holly cow it bring back a memory! Wasn't a couple, it was my ex and her sister.... Where is the Ejection lever!

I’m with you on podcasts and pretty much explain the very same thing to people who ask

It makes me sad seeing her talk about her husband 😢

His laughter made me want to turn it off. I wouldn’t watch this. I don’t like confrontation.

Haven't been keeping up with the sidemen for a while and when I saw Ethan had a podcast with his girl I was pleasantly surprised. Then I saw the clips and I just got so uncomfortable 👀

I think ppl are overusing ‘dry sense of humor”, to me a good example of dry humor is in the show Fleabag. There are several attempts at being funny delivering lines with a dead pan expression - but these just aren’t funny, specially Bobby. They’re truly awkward, boring and then say it’s dry humor like no

I have no problem with changing my last name. I have a problem with my partners not also changing their last name. Both or neither, bud.

I think from the clips you showed she seems mean and he seems insensitive

They should go to therapy instead of airing out their dirty laundry on a podcast

Agreed.. this seems like a lot of built up resentment based on those clips.

I haven't listened to their podcast, but just watching the clips you showed, I didn't find it uncomfortable and I totally got the humour. I'm also British and don't know if the perception is perhaps cultural?

I’m very attached to my my last name and was kind of freaked out at the thought of losing it when I got married but my wonderful husband without any arguments at all basically just added his last name to mine. So technically when I finally get my new SSN card with the new name on it, I can go with my birth certificate which we had to order and FINALLY get my new ID with my four names on it. No hyphens, just four names. lol First, middle, my maiden last name and his last name. He’s even been the one to contact all the appropriate places to order my birth certificate and we got that start the process for the new SSN card. Side note, for a woman at least in the US to change their name because of marriage we need a crap ton of paper work to do so, they really wannna make sure I’m not some illegal Russian bride or whatever. 😅

Just putting it out there, Ghouls Night In with Midge and Penny is very, very good.

No I don't think that's the way they are I think she's actually bothered.

I can’t stand this type of thing. He’s just laughing at her frustrations. Way to make your partner feel alone.

What a weird world we live in... 😂

The dude is definitely just a sexist dude stuck in the 90’s seeing what his parents displayed as “correct gender roles “ for example he work then come home and do nothing while wife do stuff all day up until bedtime then still be expected to perform in the bedroom on top of that or his eye will wander. These types of men are a throw away. and unfortunately she’s permanently connected to that loser because of their child. Even if they break up But yeah he’s no prize . let’s just leave it at that

I do think they are interesting (kinda) she doesn’t seem too bad honestly

Its British humor... Totally normal over there.

Just think of it as low level roasting each other

I did a road trip with that couple, it was agonizing.

No they are going to get divorced for sure.

Thats not dry humor. He’s gaslighting her and she doesn’t realize it yet. But eventually someone will tell her that its not right and she will think about it.

He comes across as 75% of British men & reminds me why I prefer being single.

He just hates her... its awful! That is not Banter.

This is not staged reality tv type shit. This is REAL reality tv imo lmao

YIKES! That's all I've got.

I agree- it’s content that has been through the ringer since the start of time it seems.. man, woman, husband, wife bickering about their roles … ho hum..