Fr 😂😂

Any race can colonizes a land

@@ashab6806 I think that they’re pointing out the Irony of America being colonized in the search of India lol

Not really ironic considering we’re taking about the wrong kind of “Indian”. Haha… in this video it’s Indians like from India. Not native Americans

@@ashlinchorniak I know that already but as Jeffinson said, they were originally looking for India and found America by accident hence why they used to call the Native Americans "Indians"

Right! I was like wait a damn minute 💀🙃

Sketchy 👀👀

I thought about the same thing, literally every cult ever lmao

Isn't it every other god chosen self chosen guy lmao

Problem is he had doctors and lawyers peaple who spent years and years in school , how the fuck do you have all those degrees and learn all of that and not know this basic information

Well no.

@@Zombina638 fym no

my dad and his friends still love this guy

One of my professors was in this and speaks highly of the experience.

@@davidmaddon554 You know what to write on your next exam sheet

They're lucky to meet osho ..i wish i would have meet him .

Why

CRYING

💀💀💀💀

@Boss Interepid babes do you know what that word means?

omg skdfjdsfh

LMFAOOO

as an indian hindu, he did everything our religion says not to, in disguise of the good parts its so disturbing

@@paimonspie8913 ikr!

Asleep at the controls... Gonna crash sooner or later

He created an aura of mystery 🤔🤷‍♀️

@@paimonspie8913 i am pretty sure he stated multiple times how he isn't a Hindu.

They were supposed to wear “the colors of the sun” and what happened when all those colors got washed in the laundry together? Maroon - the color that the robes are today at the continuation of the meditation center in Pune

I was looking in the comments for someone saying this! I agree with you It is mind blowing !

She was a fucking genius for managing to clearly be a monster who was functionally the leader of the cult who literally attempted murder multiple times but somehow managing to have a reputation as a girlboss victim when in reality SHE was the villain

@@emilybarclay8831Wouldn’t say “genius” more so the people who look at her like they are really dumb.

Right😂😂

Sheela is a monster

@little ellie ofc it’s sarcasm

@little ellie are you new to the internet lol

🙂ikr

@little ellie are u new here lol. it’s sarcasm

@@spottedleaf069 some people are neurodivergent, just because someone's brain can't tell if something was supposed to be sarcastic or not, it doesn't mean they are "new to the internet"; this is why tone indicators exist and they make our lives way easier... /genuine

it’s so sad that they ended up homeless though, i feel like victims of cults aren’t helped in the aftermath as much as they should be. they were brainwashed for years and had to leave everything.

Oh wow that’s so sad!

Oh my gosh she saw them before and after. That’s amazing and sad.

I respect you baby

@@lilymay4136 I know, it’s terrible :/

Frightening fact: ^****

that’s worse

been to that camp, and yes cult shit still definitely happens

can you define what you mean by “a bunch of cult stuff” 👀 i’m curious

@@highimem8435 same

that's so interesting! just curious, do you know if it was like a feared cult? like for example your grandma not letting your mom go to certain places because they were there, or giving a curfew because of them?

@@gaslight.gatekeep.girlboss6476 damnnn that interesting question!!

@@The.best.samara yeah, like it really makes me wonder how it affected the locals in a daily basis, I know that if it happened where I live I would be scared af for myself and my hypothetical children

@@gaslight.gatekeep.girlboss6476 yeah very true

@@gaslight.gatekeep.girlboss6476 I’d be absolutely terrified as well! I can’t imagine the fear associated with living by a cult this insane and unpredictable. I’d probably be moving away from there the first chance I had, if at all possible. I feel so bad for the people already living in that area who thought they had found a nice place to live a quiet and happy life.

ur aunt was reborn?

Yes, I was thinking that too

It was, his name is Chandra Mohan Jain. He later basically gave the title of chosen one to himself, obviously. Osho was laughed up on by us while westerners loved it.

@@sam56677 wow, that's very interesting to know.

@@sam56677 yea but still he have some following here too, my dad and his friends love him(why),but you are correct he was mostly laughed upon here

Hindus should not support any organisation to be honest, if you want to become more religious just read the books, pray and all, celebrate festivals i guess this must be enough. Most of these organisation scam people. Everything involves money, no one is here for free

I was thinking the same thing! It’s kinda crazy how easily manipulative humans are.

Yep 💀

I always hear about people saying they want to join a cult to see if they'd survive it, but I wanna see if they could start a cult 💀

I've always said i wanted to do a social experiment where I create a cult 😃

​@@ereristark425 If I had no scruples, I'd start one just to make a living from selling "miracle water" or some shit. Why work hard at an honest job, when all kinds of people - young and old, smart and dumb, rich and poor - are just desperate for someone to lie to them?

im not hindu but i absolutley agree with you

@@prakhar__shukla Hindus have several gods but Hindus never force you to believe in god or something. Unlike Rajneesh cult which you are a part of. It's your choice you believe in god or not. But Worshipping a human who is just like us is nothing but stupidity. I'm an agnostic too but I can tell you were born in a Hindu household. And you aren't being forced to follow hinduism. So I think you should respect every religion. Don't be selective. Just because you don't like it atleast don't disrespect it.

@@prakhar__shukla Dude past is past. You know that revenge is rarely a good solution. Hate calls hate, violence calls violence. Actual younger christians have nothing to be ashamed of if they never participated in colonization. Also, there are a bunch of christian people whose families were never colonizers. They're not apologizing for being hindu you thick head, they're just offended that this dude used hindi culture and beliefs to hype himself up. Oh and btw, nowadays a lot of people call christians a cult. Because it's often what they are, indeed. Colonization is frowned upon. Better late than never

@@tulasismems He's not even an hindu if he's gonna start his own cult. He was a god for his cult so it's a different religion.

@@prakhar__shukla I never said Rajneesh preached Hinduism. Infact he was against Indian cultures including Hinduism obviously.

That’s the thing with religious cults.They scam people a lot of money and some never realize that they being scammed

I have a question and I'm not trying to offend, but what is the difference between a pyramid scheme and a cult, or do they just work twogether at times?

@@mangovasco3296 I’m not too well versed in this topic but I think the main focus and appeal of a pyramid scheme is the promise of profit and financial wealth, while the main focus and appeal of a cult is falls into the spiritual and the religion category.

My mom was in something similar when she was in college. She used to attend this Korean church that presented themselves as a church but was very cult-like and they tried to scam her and her friends multiple times. Thankfully she realized what they were doing and got out.

My grandma was involved w asaram's cult and she still believes that he's innocent safe to say I don't like her

yeah like almost all the people have books by osho.

WAIT SO HE’S OSHO!! I’VE SEEN HIS BOOKS BEING SOLD IN SO MNAY PLACES. DAMN-

Yikes!!!!

@Input.ChannelName. I think he is on the other side, yes, but the commune and his ideology stays.

@REWA J YES! and like so many young people to this day continue to join it

I- right

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@@choicethetaurus wait this is actually pretty good- one of the few times I don't regret clicking some random link

@@choicethetaurus Holy hell this is so good dude💕🔥

@@choicethetaurus Your voice is so soft and sweet ,I love it ❤️

How are the docuseries named?

@@wolfiesasha887 wild wild country

literally the same with my grandfather. he was in it as my dad was growing up but now no one talks about it

kimberly tobias did he seem much affected by it, or does he seem moved on? being in a cult like that must have been shocking to break out of my gosh. i’m so sorry if this is nosy or invasive i’m just curious!

Well it is easy for people to get sucked into things. Even schools are recruiting students into cults. I'm sure your aunt and uncle thought they were doing something good at the start of it.

Yeah, that is pretty goofy. At one point the cult said they were healing the land which rationally makes no sense. The best thing humans can do for land is to leave it alone and do nothing.

@@emmalouie1663 This has to be one of the dumbest takes I've ever read on KZfaq.

@@spiritof6663 its actually a view in environmental science. Like there are people who genuinely believe leaving it alone is the best thing. But yknow that's subjective.

When I was 16, I managed that commune airport...

@@agentred8732 what was that like?

YES! I just wrote about this too. I was part of his cult for about 6 years... left two years ago. Serious stuff is happening in and around the cult. I hope Hailey makes a video about it sometime.

@@JananyaKali umm in his island?

@@Isabella-qq2oi no lol I left before these shenanigans. I was at his Bidadi ashram though.

@@JananyaKali So you're saying that you were part of Nithyananda's group, correct? What "serious stuff" is happening there?

@@JananyaKali do tell if you can 👀

Then again she was a grownass woman and has never taken responsibility for her actions. She hides in Switzerland and managed an old people's home. She should not take responsibility of vulnerable people after what she did.

@@kissarococo2459 i think theres more nuance to the situation. she was groomed and spent her entire life in this place. when you feel as if everything you know is threatened you will go to extremes to defend it. theres a way 2 both condemn her actions and at the same time acknowledging that she was also a victim. it has nothing to do with her being a grownass woman, untreated trauma stays with you no matter your age.

@@kissarococo2459 hmm you’re entitled to your opinion, I just feel it’s more complicated than that.

@@kissarococo2459 exactly!!!

@@escapedscienceexperiement9824 being groomed is awful but does NOT excuse her actions and her continuing not to apologise. If she was a man no one would feel sorry for her. Awful things happen to awful people too.

It has value in so much as hes saying things that have been said by true brahmans but twisting them and making them pathetic

@Boss Interepid he is praised today because people are brainwashed, like you.

I agree. I listened to a couple of his videos and what he said made sense but it's just hard to believe that he was a good person

I agree! He gave my country a bad name too in many ways!:(

My grandfather was his believer so we have lots of his book I'm not so fond of his philosophys so sold some his books and literally got thousands of rupees

So more cult shit lol

@@spicyjatropha2552 LMAO tea

my ex boyfriend used to live there and i visited a lot. it was actually pretty fun, though i steered clear of the actual christian bits. very well funded, but some of the old buildings give off major cult vibes. specifically the apartment-type buildings

@@shay1455 damnnn live in there? Is there a certain time you can live there?

Spooky

yuhh ✨👏

Yes😌

PERIODT

now c'mon now

YESSSSSSSS SHE IS THE QUEEN AND IDOL OF MY LIFE love you hailey

same :)

Sending love to you 😊

i hope things get better for you❤️

you’re so precious ilyssm! 💗

Same

Thank you

you’re a legend bro :D

Why would you ruin the anticipation of the story 🙄

@@Malcolmblacc if you don't want to spoil the story don't click read more and I did it for people who don't want to watch a whole hour, but are still interested in the topic

@@milhousevanhouten9136 that’s kinda disrespectful, that’s kinda why she makes them is to watch them full.. but okay. You can be a half ass fan. Don’t forget to do it for all the other videos you watch so people can know since you have time for it

@Boss Interepid Just because I didn't mention it doesn't mean that I'm biased. We all have bias, buy I try my best to be rational about everything. Can you name one big organization that hasn't become corrupted at some point?

@Boss Interepid I see the point you are trying to make, and my argument isn't that they don't help people at all. The point I'm making is that all of them become corrupted. Once you give people power, they start to do anything to expand and hold on to that power.

This is pretty much true. The most manipulative people rise to the top of any institution even in schools. They almost always claim to be the most righteous and enlightened too.

Surely not every organization becomes corrupt but I do agree with your insights on human nature falling into ego states around power. His books and teachings are actually very beautiful and have changed my thoughts on life and many aspects of it. That being said, I am glad I was a baby when all this shit went down. It sounds awful 😣

I see your point, but what SHOULD keep people away from cults (even before they are corrupt) is the desire that sane people have for FREEDOM!!!! I don't need to be told what to do any more than necessary!!! Am I the only one that likes freedom?!?!?!? Screw churches, cults, clubs, whatever!!!!

im from oregon but i never heard about this before... maybe thats because i was 14 the last time i was in my home town, who knows. 😂

Dude yeah I’m from the dalles (the place that got salmonella’d) and people hardly talk about it at all, but if they do it’s like very vague and most people still don’t even seem to know what happened other than taco time getting targeted 😆 it’s weird that we all still have and go to those restraunts without even thinking about it

I'm from Oregon and have not heard of this till now

Imagine over 1,000 people showing up in your tiny neighborhood all following a leader who is going to deliver a promise of a great life.

@@H4DESROSE so you basically wanted a comment is what you're saying..

lmfao i don’t tf ? people are stupid. if i feel bad for anyone, i feel bad for the families of those who were in the cult. the members were not children or incapable of making decisions for themselves

@@jillianc7485 exactly, they were grown adults and chose to give up everything

@@jillianc7485 do you just not have empathy? And the ability to realize that when someone gets suckered into something like this it isn't soley a matter of stupidity

@@jillianc7485 Not all of them left they’re families behind. Even if they did I still feel bad. These people didn’t think they were joining the cult it ended up being, they had the intention of living with people who shared the same values and beliefs in life. If you watched the documentary you would know that some were looking for something that normality wasn’t giving them. In the end they lost a lot. I read another comment which said some of the members became homeless. :(

Well done Eliza.

@Work and Stuff okay this comment is making me so happy what

@Work and Stuff I appreciate it friend! I promise you I’ll think about this comment often

What course is this for?

@@nancytwinkle7677 it was science

this makes no sense the guy hates on Hinduism but uses Sanskrit words and bases his teachings on core Hindu beliefs like in Hinduism we believe we have souls which are genderless and his thing is basically copying that🙄 while he is actively hinduphobic

I'm swedish and I actually didn't know that. That's interesting.

@@user43208 ikr that just gives Hinduism a bad name

@@idap3n430 I’m gonna owe was Q121 M

What's the movie name?

Thanks for speaking up for this!

yeah that's how it's viewed in india as well and joint or extended families are pretty common so i know where this guy's ideology came from but he just fucked up majorly

If a single parent can raise multiple children on their own then that is a bunch of BS.

@@AutumnSwift2 or hear me out there's multiple ways to raise a child 🙀

@@degeneratequeen3559 yeah just do whatever works for your family and yourself lol

That all the more makes this creepy and offensive.

i thought shree meant mister

unrelated: i love your pfp

@@jrhooman yep lmfao

@@jrhooman it's multipurpose. Shree can stand for shreeyut (mister) or shreemati (missus) or shreemad (honorific religious title)

thank you for your story

It wasnt a cult and problably ur uncle knew that, dont worry. I'm young and read a lot of Osho books, from a young age, on my own. I don't even consider a religion what he said, it was simply about freedom and being free. I must point out that I only read the books, and years later I found out more about Osho through the netflix documentary. I wouldn't do anything that's shown there, but his books and wisdom were worth it.

@beca I agree. I have only ever known him as Osho and have been reading his books for years. I even have one of his Tarot decks which I have used for years and that I love dearly. His teachings are valid and very much about freedom of the soul and contain a lot of wisdom. I had heard of the Netflix documentary but have never watched it. I clicked on this cause I love her channel and recognized his photo on the thumbnail. I think the important thing to remember is that when it comes to “spiritual” teachers from the past to the present, they like us all, have a dark side too. And most of them have severe dark sides that balance out their “light” aspects. Or to put it in more tangible terms, higher consciousness states of mind (which I consider him to have had) also has a flip side. It also sounds like the woman had more to do with all the drama than he did. But I am not one to make opinions as I only know him from his books and teachings which I have enjoyed and benefited from. I still love Osho and think his books remain valid standing alone from his personal life. Most teachers and high profile people have skeletons in their closets. It’s what makes us all human in the end. Lol. Great video as always. Thank you for keeping me up late at night ♥️ xox

@@CharleighDawnRose alright charleigh there's a difference between stealing a candy bar when you were little and advocating for violence

@@arizonagreenbee lol right. I read his books and I was VERY into new age spirituality. Most of it is rooted on denial and ""wisdom"" which a lot of the time is simply negligence. I don't buy this.

And he also had 90 really expensive cars and expensive jewelry 💀

If we have a world without money we will all be poor and find other things to trade.

Same 😭

Truth

Same girl! I have his book of secrets when I watched this documentary I had a lot of questions tied to questioning spirituality specifically trusting people and their words or teachings.

@@Cutephotos4life I had the book on Emotions, and another one on peace. But, like my brother said, he could have gotten corrupted over time. The teachings don't make them less true. I think as humans we can't take anything as gospel. Learning is flexible, and fluid. Learn, and grow. It doesn't mean I believe in what he did after learning about it in the documentary, but as you did, it made me question myself, and my own spirituality.

I got into Osho through his books when I was 22yrs old and I'm 40 now. I felt a deepest connection and mirroring in my heart for where he was coming from in the books. It was a gift from above those books. Maybe because "it" or truth is so scarce in America that I felt such relief to hear what I have felt alone through someone else who could say it so well. Anyways, I went through the whole ohh shit moments when I found out more on Osho and Rajneeshpuram from the internet, way before Wild Wild Country came out and it was both awesome and horrible to hear of all of that. I mean, I was like OHH Shit! He had a total following of people! How awesome! But then to see the calamity.... damn. I would like to say that even through all of the "bad" I have a deeper understanding of life and life isn't all good. Was never meant to be and never will be. The story of Osho is for all to see. But to know Osho, to know of what he was speaking and pointing to👉, to know self, to know eternity, it is blissful and I hope for others to have the courage to seek....even in the face of harsh criticisms. Even when it is unpopular.

whats it called

It’s really good, I had no clue either

@@amelieeryn yess i’m literally watching it rn

@Lily X tysm

@Lily X thanks for the recommendation. It was so interesting!

I was 18 in 1975 and I seriously considered moving, there even only wearing reds and pinks. Im glad now I didnt move there

Same but the fact I wouldn’t be able to wear black might have been a deal breaker

If I was 18 in 1975 I would've joined. I would've taken my friends too. The only thing I think would stop me is that it looks so sketchy from the outside.

Yep. I've been inadvertently involved in a group that was a cult for a few months but it was mild and not harmful, I thought it was a little strange but I didn't realize it was a cult until years later. BLM is also technically a religious cult, they have an ideology of who is good or bad, if you are with them they say you are good and if you are not part of their group they hate you. There are a lot of cults out there some aren't too dangerous some go horribly wrong.

@@emmalouie1663 let’s back track…did you srsly just call blm a “cult”, so now wanting basic human rights is a cult?

I have never heard about this cult lol maybe coz i am from the south?

@@kiwiwooq this guy osho has a pretty huge following in South India...

@@kiwiwooq i never heard of it too but maybe its because i'm too young since it took place in the 70s and all. but then again so many of these groups keep popping up and all their leaders look exactly the same like.. they're really COMMITTED to the aesthetic 🤭🤭

@@kiwiwooq it's nri right. That's probably why. We're good at disowning any minute negatives until anti hindu people from twitter dig them up. Then all the next generations remain cluless

BRAHMA KUMARIS. MY AUNT IS GOING CRAZY OVER IT

@Boss Interepid I see you everywhere in this comment section. Stop. Nobody cares about your cult or fake scammer prophet

People who are in cults don't know they are in cults.

@Boss Interepid aw you actually believe this shit 💀

@Boss Interepid lmao you acting as if osho is innocent, he was LITERALLY a criminal on the run

@Boss Interepid I said criminal not a murderer maybe pay attention to reading instead of following a guy with messiah complex

"Sannyasin" is also borrowed terms from traditional religion, it's like saying a "monk" or a "spiritual devotee." So it's also a falsely co-opted word that is not really correct to use. His followers should be called Rajneeshees, I think, is probably the best term, lol. ALSO Rajneesh probably died from AIDS from all the unprotected sex, and nobody wanted to acknowledge that it was AIDS.

Also I visited the US Rajneesh center, around maybe 2001. It was mostly fizzled out and almost dead, as a community, they were mainly older middle-aged folks from the previous lifespan of the cult (before he died). They were nice people but it wasn't much of anything. Just people that liked his books and audio recordings, vids etc., more than anything. I didn't see any crazy parties or anything like that lol.

Also your final statement that you don't love but don't hate it, is not really an accurate conclusion, no offense, but the big picture is that the guy was completely inconsistent about everything. Cherry-picked quotes can sound wonderful, but for everything nice, he probably said the negative, opposite statement too, at some other point. He literally did NOT have a cohesive teaching or philosophy. So THAT is really the main take-way imo. He would always change whatever he was saying, seemingly depending on his mood, or the context of the talk, or whatever. So the teachings were everything, and nothing, because really it's all meaningless if he always changes his teachings, or says things that cancel out stuff he said at other times, etc. There's no real teaching, underneath it all. However, the guy was actually devoted for many years to TALKING for the entire day, I don't think you mentioned it. He would just sit and talk in a supposedly meditative state, for hours and hours. So this is the real context of when he did choose "silence," well he had been spending years of insane tons of hours spent talking all day. (There are still tons of audio and video of him talking endlessly.) People found his voice relaxing, he'd talk slow and make little jokes, and say things that would seem profound and positive. Supposedly it was a group meditation to just listen to him rambling for hours. ^So it's suspected that... during those days of talking for hours, he was apparently getting geeked from LAUGHING GAS, of all things. The stuff in whip cream containers, and the same stuff is used sometimes in dentists' offices. And apparently that laughing-gas would seemingly explain his real mind-state when he was kicking back and rambling all day, it kinda makes more sense when you consider such drugs were involved. What's amazing about learning about Rajneesh is that I literally learn something new with each video, including yours. :) But also it's too much history and madness, for anyone one person to cover it all. I only wanted to mention a few things that you didn't mention. Nice vid though, I enjoyed it and learned a few new things. It's also wild seeing the old video from the cult. I was formerly interested in the guy in the late 90's basically, but I was only reading books etc. and I wasn't hip with the web yet, to really get a good idea of what he was really about. His "Osho" rebranding is dishonest, and just to sell books, it would seem, since no one woudl buy a book from "Rajneesh" if they realized his history. But "Osho" sounds new and mysterious. IIRC it's a Japanese word for teacher, or something like that. The one book and product that got me really into his books back then, originally was the "Osho Zen Tarot," which is a beautiful deck of cards, of full size paintings on each card. But it does not contain the tradition of Zen, nor the tradition of Tarot either, it's like a scramble of everything. That's also a good way to describe his talks, it was a scramble of all different ideas and different religions etc. but obviously with himself singled out as the wealthy leader. It was all a big crazy scramble of madness lol.

@Boss Interepid I do understand him and his teachings. And he just lacked a real substance or meaning underneath it all. He was abusing laughing gas and that’s really his mindstate during his long rambling talks.

@@JamesChessman "ALsO" lol. Her conclusion is accurate because it's her conclusion. Everyone can have their own. YOU can understand his teachings but yet you say he didn't have cohesive teachings? Okay.... If that's your takeaway. You can't say someone elses takeaway isnt accurate. Also you didn't understand him... None of us who haven't met him possibly couldn't understand him.

The tonal whiplash omg

ooh timestamp?

@@fakename8713 in the damn beginning 😂

same! I was caught off guard😂

Where?! I can't find her..

what year did you work there ?? i live next to it, just curious

Was the story of the place ever mentioned on the camp? (I'm just curious, no need to answer if you don't want to)

Isn't young life a national thing? In my small town we had one and my sister was apart of it but did not like it bc it was cultish

Gee the camp it’s self never talked about it but leaders and work staff would always tell campers about the cult and the ranch being haunted by them

Yeah unfortunately she popped off in wrong ways

@@suryatejaaddanki4649 this made me laugh😂

@@suryatejaaddanki4649 💀

😆😆😆😭😭

@@suryatejaaddanki4649 😭😭😭

Exactly. It's the fact that people were willing to FOLLOW without ASKING QUESTIONS and thinking for themselves.

That's how all cults start and end. It's like a formula.

Are their any fiction book

Was it terrible really?

His fake message to lure people into his cult, the man is a sociopath

She is both a victim and a perpetrator.

She is like Harley Quinn. Doing crazy shit for love despite Osho treating her like shit and literally throwing her under the bus to save his ass. I think she made her position in the Oregon experiment her entire personality and she thought she was doing all this to please Osho and she will be rewarded but it backfired because she lost the sense of wrong and right and she also forgot the need to keep her dirty dealings underneath a cover. Osho spat her out the moment she got jealous and started sabotaging his plans.

You are accurate!

😂

agree its just such a wild situation you cant help but laugh a bit at the antics that went on

Exactly ‼️ lmaoo this guy

He is not even human being and calling himself self proclaimed "god" like bruh stop💀💀💀💀

@Boss Interepid lmao this wasn't a philosophical discussion about the semantics of the word 'God'. It was about how conceited one has to be to call themselves God. How many people have you met who go by the title god?

@Boss Interepid you're right but its still very egoistical

@Boss Interepid not in the slightest 🤣🤣🤣

@@emoboy42069 ooh yea!

yeah that's what I thought as well! Obviously, individually for those 40 people, it was really shitty and their families had local history there and they didn't deserve to have their land stolen either but on a larger scale... those 40 people were on stolen land too

eight!!! hypocrytesss

But you need to take into consideration that those 40 people didn't colonized america, yes their ancestors did, but they didn't choose to be born in stolen land, but the cult people choose to stole it.

@@eduarda2534 I completely agree with you. I don't really believe in people being held accountable for things their ancestors participated in nor does that justify any violence/harm against them. And they are certainly allowed to have an attachment to the land they were born/raised on. I grew up in North America and had been raised with the awareness that the land I was born and raised on was cruelly taken from those to who it belonged and that many Indigenous communities are still suffering and being ignored. It's not exactly my place to speak on behalf of their community so I don't want to speak out of line but I think even a verbal acknowledgement of the history would be nice since it is part of the actual history of the land. I hope I don't come off as too insensitive to the suffering of this community since I do not condone any of the cult's actions at all obviously. I guess I just wanted to express this discomfort at the back of my mind.

@@KhanHAyesha Yeah I totally understand you, I do think that everyone in the Americas should recognize that they are in stolen land (and if they can, help indigenous communities). But the people from the city were giving a interview for a documentary about the cult, maybe they do acknowledge the colonization, but didn't mention it because it wasn't relevant to the conversation.