glad the leafs hired treliving. after all, leaves live in trees.

If any team’s “core four” doesn’t have at least 1 defenseman in it, you have a problem.

Non Leafs fans: You guys are screwed with Dubas as GM Also non Leafs fans: You guys are screwed now with Dubas gone.

15:09 inspiring words to live by as we all sludge through this painful off season together

I'll be honest I'm surprised Shanny still has a job .

His dad is on "Dragon's Den", not "Shark Tank". But regardless, rich is the point - yes. Interested to listen to his initial presser tomorrow.

As a Flames fan I can say that you're getting a competent, if not amazing GM. Decent at drafts and trades, can usually negotiate good contracts (unless the players don't want to be there to begin with) and he seems like an all around good guy. UFA signings are a bit of a yikes and be prepared for a lot of press conferences where he says a lot of words but provides very little actual information.

SHIT. I really felt I nailed that interview.

If the reports of dubas having to run everything by shanahan first are true then does it really matter who’s the gm of the team?

If the Leafs decide to get a new coach, I hope they get Bruce Boudreau for no other reason than that I like him and I think he'd resonate well with the younger players in Toronto. He also got plenty of playoff experience and could hopefully do a good job come April.

Cheers Steve keep going mate lovin the videos, from the UK

Dubas getting fired the way he did and being replaced by a man who is family friends with Larry Tanenbaun feels icky to me. I hear Brad is nice...

As an Oiler fan watching a rival's GM make moves over the past couple of years I'd say Treliving is pretty good at his job. He can identify what a team needs and go after it. I feel he was backed into a corner with Sutter and Tkachuk, one he couldn't move and one he didn't want to. Everyone raved at first about the return he got for Tkachuk, and if Huberdeau turns things around under a different coach it will still be seen as the best trade Treliving could've made. I dunno, I think the Leafs are going to be fine.

Remember Coaches Corner with Don Cherry? There should be a Steve’s Corner as a replacement on Saturday broadcasts. Can see it happening in the future. Have followed the podcast almost since the beginning. This man is entertaining in a very animated form and knows the game. HNIC needs a spice up and Steve would be a great candidate for that spice.

I love the insight you share into the mechanics of things we may or may not see, the stats, etc. But i absolutely LIVE for dad jokes such as Bad Treliving, Brad TreLEAVING, Brad TreLEAFING 😂😂

Steve you should read the book about the Columbus Chill. Their extreme popularity lead to the formation of the CBJ

How do you trade Matthews after July 1st? You think he waives his NMC? He doesn't seem like the giving/team player type.

Such a dubas Stan. Imagine Jessie Blake’s contract is up and he presents Steve with a contract that takes most of Steve’s responsibility as ceo and put it in Jesses hands. Like come on, go back and watch LFR every time the leafs were eliminated the last few years, and the games leading up to elimination, Steve was had no issues if dubas was fired. Dubas inherited a playoff team largely built by Lou, and has one round to show for it. Like open your eyes dude

As a Flames fan, I do not like Treliving signing in Toronto, but it's because of what happened the last time the Leafs signed a former Calgary GM - Cliff Fletcher. And I swear, if we get a repeat of the Doug Gilmour trade-no-wait-it-was-actually-a-robbery-hello-police-I-would-like-to-report-a-crime-please, I might lose my mind.

I was rooting for Peter Chiarelli just for the pure chaos his hockey moves would have created

when is the official press conference?

That might be my favorite ending of any of your videos 😂

The Columbus Chill has a surprisingly long list of successful alums, including head coaches Brian McCutcheon and Don Granato. They were absolutely formative in the CBJ being awarded, and there's an incredible book by David Paitson and Craig Merz about them called Chill Factor. Speaking of Columbus, Alison Lukan would be proud beyond words of those last thirty seconds. Well done.

Should have fired Shanahan

Been a Leafs fan since I was a wee lad in the 70's watching Sittler, McDonald, Salming etc. I've pretty much seen it all when it comes to this team. It doesn't matter who owns the team, runs the team, coaches the team or plays for the team, the one common denominator is that they can never go all the way, or even come close for that matter.

I have trouble envisioning a trade for Mathews, Marner or Nylander that makes us better.... but, interested to see if they can come up with one that does.

Keep doing these videos! You are the culinary artery of leafs nation dangle.

I would have trusted Dubas to move Nylander and Marner and get a return that improved the team overall (even if it didnt look so on paper), im not so sure I trust Treliving

How do you reckon Spencer carbery will do at Washington?

Does anyone else think Keefe is the problem? I’d be much more comfortable running the core 4 (5) back if we had a coach whose system was more than simply throwing the lines into the blender and hoping our best players figure it out.

Sometime in July No sir you have a plan in place for to have them traded by the draft if they are not signed and gone before no trade clauses kick in

Nothing says building a successful team like Brad Treviling

Good talk

I feel if Keefe is still behind the bench all other changes or for not.

Was that a Big Cass reference I heard?

The Columbus Chill are now the Flyers affiliate, the Reading Royals, who are rivals of TORONTO'S affiliate, the Newfoundland Growlers.

So Shanahan fired Dubas because he thought Dubas threatened his own job. That is some quality Leadership Shanny.

Knies - Tavares - Kempe Jarnkrok - OReilly - Marner Robertson - Kampf - Accari Steeves - Holmberg - McMann Orlov - Klingberg Rielly - Schenn Gio - Brodie Woll Kallgren

Steve, you should do a video on the intertwining relationship of the Leafs and the Flames. So many connections from Dion Phaneuf, Nazem Kadri, and Brian Burke.

I think Steve Dangle could be a great GM for the Maple Leafs.

With Toronto salaries we can soon call him Brad Houseliving

I agree, we have to take risks

As a Flames fan he’s good at some things and bad at others. Treliving was good at resigning his own players to good contracts (Lindholm, Johnny, Monahan, Andersson) and he’s pretty good at trades (more wins than losses). He’s bad at Free agent signings (Neal, Rooney, Coleman makes too much), and he’s too loyal to certain players. So it’s a mixed bag overall

New Dangle video? *Pulls headphones from the box.

Would a Nylander or Marner trade be won on paper? Probably not. However, I don't see Nylander producing nearly as well on another team. I know people will say oh he doesn't have heart or go to the hard area which may be true. There are roles on every team that need to be filled by players who possess certain attributes to fillthose roles effectively. Nylander's attributes don't neccessarily fit those demands. I will say Nylander's contract is decent when compared to the other members of the core four. I say, on different teams, Marner would produce much better than Nylander. That being said, I say Nylander has shown that when things are going rough for the core four, he seems to be the guy who comes out with the most points or goals over a short period of time. Must be a knack for being in the right place at the right time? Not a bad player at all and not the problem with the leafs. I'm a Devils fan but live in Ontario so it's Leafs country. I'm always interested in what the Leafs are up to.

Where’s the part where Dubas used his family as a “scapegoat” for what he really wanted. He had already agreed in principle to a contract extension. Then said he needed time to think about coming back and talk to his family who was under so much stress. To then say he was coming back to Shanny and got his agent to present. A new contract with a 50 percent raise per season. Where in the world does Dubas think he is worth 7 mil per season with one playoff round win. Give me a break! He had one good year as a GM making trades.

He also has a great late pick draf record also

Dubas is the slightly more successful NHL version of Sam Hinkie. Had his own process, was very analytic driven, thought he was smartest guy in the room and enjoyed being the franchise face. All of this belying the fact that the process ultimately wasn’t successful.

Who in the world would want to work for Shanahan when it is likely he will throw them under the bus publicly if things go south? I was way wrong about that dude, he is the opposite of a stand up guy. In my opinion it was Shanahan that should be gone and I say that as someone that does not have a ton of respect for Dubas' work. Guy was a successful player for sure, but there is zero evidence he knows how to lead an organization.

Well the last few seconds gave us the reminder that we all needed that Steve is a father

This’ll be fun

As long as he signs Lucic and makes him the first line LW I'll let the signing slide

"Core Four" is starting to grate on me à la "Perfection Line" and "Identity Line".

I appreciate the Big Cass reference 👍🏾😂

lol awesome ending Steve!

Treliving may not be the big splash many wanted, but he's a pretty safe bet. He's performed reasonably well when his hands were tied and I think he did quite well in Calgary with the Tkachuk trade with Florida. He was dealing in a position of no leverage and still managed to get two quality players back AND signed them to 8 year deals. He was then able to get Kadri for 7 years. One may argue those deals may not age well towards the end, but all things considered, I think he did pretty good there.

Just thought of this do you think Giordano had a word in this he played in Calgary for better part of treliving tenure

If you rerun the core 4 with Keefe again then what was the point of firing Dubas?

Cool, so they fired Dubas to hire the guy that handicapped the Flames with large contracts to 30+ year olds and won 2 playoff series in 9 years

What a month May 2023 was. Start of the month, we were all excited about the Leafs being about to start the second round. End of the month, we're naming a new GM entirely.

2022 flames and 2023 leafs Last each won a playoff series over the 2020 Stanley cup finalists (stars and lightning) on overtime goals I might add and by players named John/Johnny Got knocked out in the second round in 5 games, both on overtime goals in game 5 in there home arena Brad treliving was hired by the flames in 2014 and Kyle dubas was also hired in 2014 by the leafs

My opinion on running back this core AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH😭😭

Those puns at the end will hopefully never be needed… Great video, Steve!

Best joke I've seen: they're going to start calling Boston Pizza _"Auston Pizza"._

Magnificent outro

As someone who's team's previous GM was afraid to take a risk *cough cough Ron Hextall*, that's a great thing to have.

The Leafs are Treliving on a Prayer!

I think the Florida trade flopped because of Sutter as a coach more than anything else. Let's see what next year brings under a new coach in Calgary. Keefe will probably start the year on a short leash.

I have questions. Is Coffey working with the oiler or not. If not can Detroit bring him into town, I'm positive we have more then one mystery role. I'm actually sure we have some not so mysterious roles.

Just so you know Steve, his dad was on Dragon’s Den, not Shark Tank lol

Keep the team together. It'll work eventually. How about do a video on teams that did a total shakeup and won the cup?

Steve, pretty sure a July 1 no move clause means they cant trade Matthews during the month of July. Did you mean June perhaps?

The formula is simple. Toronto needs to move Marner for a franchise defenseman and use the created cap space to upgrade between the pipes. Buffalo would be an IDEAL trading partner if they weren't in the division. They have Dahlin AND Owen Power. Detroit, also a division opponent, has Moritz Seider, who could be part of a package for Mitch. Dallas has Miro Heiskanen, an intriguing piece. But the reality is Matthews is getting impatient & Tavares is getting old. Toronto is likely going to lose the trade on paper, but they can win the trade if it brings them a cup. I propose a complex 3 team trade where Toronto trades Marner & Rielly while adding Roman Jossi, Martin Neccas, & Hurricanes 1st Rd pick. Nashville trades Roman Jossi and Philip Tomasino + their 15th overall pick while adding Mitch Marner, Brett Pesce & Carolina's 1st. Carolina trades Pesce, Necas & their 1st while Adding Morgan Rielly & Philip Tomasino. This trade creates 6.4 million in cap space for the Leafs bringing in players who can contribute right away, give them a TRUE franchise defenseman, AND gives them a mid 1st rounder in a VERY deep draft. Analyzing it from Nashville's perspective, they trade their aging franchise defenseman, a prospect & move down in the draft 15 spots, but add a superstar forward in Marner, and a solid younger defenseman in Pesce whom they have the cap space to sign long-term while maintaining a 1st rd pick in a good draft. Carolina gets to add a high scoring puck moving defender in Morgan Rielly (something they lack) and a solid forward prospect with good upside and some NHL experience in Tomasino. I see this trade as helping everyone involved.

We run it back and we will achieve the exact same results next playoffs.

We also have knies and robertson to step possibly

there were no conflicting reports, Tkachul said flat out he wasnt going to sign long term in Calgary.

No pressure Brad 😆 Good luck in Toronto

It's so rare an executive gets to completely destroy a franchise for the foreseeable future and then get hired in the same calendar year.

thanks Steve. I'm happy if they don't move anyone anywhere. The 82 games i watched were very entertaining. The playoffs are tainted by the rules changes and I am not a real big fan, although it is great to watch a leader like Matt Tachuck.

Is he an upgrade on dubas idk At this rate leafs do need to do something with the core 4. Too many you need to sign back up as well. Will you win a trade , in the short twrm probably not, in the long run maybe

Your crew over at PPP definitely want to run this back. Because analytics.

Steve! Love your analysis. Thank you. I have a small request. These gambling services are designed to be played any way but responsibly. Is there a chance you can put a trigger warning or a time mark to let us skip the gambling promos. It will help a lot of people deal with their demons and not avoid your content!

His dad owns Boston Pizza. We should meet there for wings.

I'm looking forward to the Leafs fighting for (and possibly getting the final) a WC spot in the upcoming season.

the toronto scene: AA in Atlanta Dubas in Pittsburgh

In my opinion dubas & treeliving have the same record. Different styles although similar results. Not over the moon or disappointed. I don't see this as the thing to push us over the edge I think a Mathews trade or marner will be required. If not maybe both with the baby mentally some of these guys have

I grew up with one of the families that owned the Maple Leafs over the years here's a direct quote "Nobody cares if Leafs win it's just a merch company."

So I'm confused. Is this still part of the Shanaplan? Because if it is, as someone who doesn't like the Leafs, I LOVE the Shanaplan.

Honestly surprised that Shanny didn't assume GM duties himself, with all the power he craves.

I actually appreciated those puns at the end. Still with you Steve.

Let's be honest - you never know how things will turn out when you hire a GM. Leafs have gone with expierenced GMs that have won cups in the past like Burke and Lou; however the same success was not duplicated during their time in Toronto. They have gone with Dubas who had no experience but did a fairly good job; however we only got out of the 1st round of the playoffs once and he made some mistakes as well - Nylander negotiations, signing Mrazek, Matt Murray, Nick Ritch etc - but did draft pretty well and found good bargain signings in a flat cap era. Lets give Treliving a chance and see how it turns out.

A positive with Tre, not only is he a 'Players GM", but he literally calls on everything. If a player or pick is available, you can be sure he's aware and made calls.

Just because he is available does not mean you want him for the job. This was a short sighted foolish move that is probably going to blow up in Toronto's face. My condolences to Leaf fans, sincerely a Calgary fan whose franchise Brad left a raging dumpster fire.

In a different market the leafs roster probably would've won a cup or 2 by now but the pressure from the media and fans plus distractions from doing all those commercials are just too much.. Dubas did a good job giving them a window to win but that window is closing pretty quick now

I believe the Flames trade with Florida wasn't a bad trade it was bad Flames coaching. A little tooo old school.

Good signing for GM, fi ally we can put a nail in the coffin of the Malgin era. Or Holl era...

Brendan is one lucky guy. How he still works for the Leafs is mind blowing.

Try this very team with a Jon Cooper or Barry Trotz type of coach and I guarantee you they will be a genuine threat, in the playoffs!

Dubas: I want to get rid of the President of Hockey Ops to make things smoother Also Dubas: I'm gonna be the President of Hockey Ops now.....

I find it ludicrous to think that a newly hired GM, one that was actually fired and not resigned from his former team, is told that under a condition of new employment that he cannot contribute to the draft. the Flames FIRED him. Who is going to check this ? Are they the same NHL enforcers that prevent Free Agent tampering when Teams are not supposed to be able to talk to players until July 1st at 12am , and then actually sign them at 12:05am , and then file paperwork with the NHL at 12:10am? Like there was no tampering there. Trev may not be able to sit at the draft table, but i can tell you with 100% certainty, he is going to provide feedback regardless of whether the Flames want him to or not.