The SOVEREIGN of the SEAS

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Kroum Batchvarov - Underwater Ship Archaeologist

9 ай бұрын

SOVEREIGN of the SEAS - the story of one of english history's most famous warship. Her graceful lines are a delight to any ship modeler. Her description and history are intriguing...
🎞SOVEREIGN of the SEAS by Hendrik Busmann:
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@allegheny7319 9 ай бұрын

Very well done video as always. Please keep up the good work.

@lonihollenbeck4654 9 ай бұрын

Sir, your knowledge on the subject matter calms the listener into full attention, Bravo!

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate that!

@cajunrandy2143 9 ай бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👍

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyednit

@davidrasch3082 9 ай бұрын

Bought this volume. Expensive investment. Worth the price for the line drawings in the back of the book.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

McKay’s? Yes, perhaps. If one is comfortable with these lines and construction differing from what we know of the ship. But if one wants to build a scratch model and needs the step by step guidance, the book is excellent for this. Accurate? Perhaps not but still interesting and worth the purchase. In my case, for completeness if the literature sake

@fredericrike5974 9 ай бұрын

Yes! That is what I had in mind about the ship yards and makers. who built these voyagers of the period that finally discovered the rest of the world as they decided who got what. But these ships represent engineering at it's peak at that time- they designed a huge, long 100 gun vessel that didn't sag or hog for more than half a century . The who and how they were built is as fascinating to me as the ships themselves.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

The master-shipwrights of the time were not the “illiterates” that they are often presented to have been in modeling publications. They were the foremost engineers of the time, highly cultured, highly inteligent

@danielcaramagno6597 9 ай бұрын

Interesting review. Thought of getting the McKay book but didn't. Frank Fox, whose books I enjoy, was asked to review a copy of the book before printing. He had your same comments and complained the author ignored them. He thought the square tuck not only inaccurate but would have made the ship physically impossible to sail. The water flow caused by the square tuck would neutralize the rudder's capability to steer the ship. I believe his comments are still up on Amazon. I like anything 17th century. Would be interested in more of the same. Most people prefer material on English and American ships of the 18th to 19th century.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

Oh, give me the 17th century anytime! Far More interesting period, formative, dynamic with beautiful ships and incredible taller-than-life characters. The 18th c by comparison is tame and boring. Alas, I heard Mr. Fox has passed away. I never met him face to face, but we corresponded and even talked by phone. I had deep respect for his knowledge! And yes- he is right about the Royal Sovereign as shown in the book: square tuck, definite no; framing as illustrated- highly unlikely as it contradicts what Pett himself wrote and what archaeology teaches us about framing in this period.

@lonihollenbeck4654 9 ай бұрын

Cool, lookin' forward to it.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

Thank you! I hope you enjoyed it!

@Imightbewrongbutsomightyou 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your knowledge on the Royal Sovereign.👍

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@stanhobbs5292 9 ай бұрын

Perhaps you could answer this question? What tools were used to construct the beautiful 17th and 18th ship models with such precision with poor lighting, no electricity, etc.?

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

As far as we can tell, the usual small hand tools: planes, saws, chisels. At least, there are tool marks for these found

@DARIVSARCHITECTVS 9 ай бұрын

Thank you, Kroum, for your perspectives on the books and information regarding HMS Sovereign of the Seas, a model of which is on progress.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

I have always been interested in her- ever since I found out that the great Prince Rupert thought her the best ship in the fleet

@DARIVSARCHITECTVS 9 ай бұрын

What fascinated me was the exquisite and expensive baroque carvings and the ambitious number of bronze guns. I am endeavoring to model the vessel as built in 1635, only colored black and gold, and gun decks lower in the hull, and in line with the gallery windows, prior to the 1658-60 refit. It may have not seen action in the early years, but the original design with all it's faults appeals to me. @@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist

@-zubzero 9 ай бұрын

I’m happy you are doing this,it will be very interesting to her your thoughts on this ship,I am building a model of the sovereign of the seas and I am about to start the carving,I’ve got Hendrik busmanns book also but it’s in German but the close up pictures are excellent.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

It is an excellent book for the iconography.

@manconefrederic8352 9 ай бұрын

i really love your channel. i can feel the passion you have, and I feel you in every way, I am an amateur modeler and wish I had the skills to carve from scratch so that I could build the victory in her true beauty I am currently working on his majesty ship Bellerophon, got lots of different painting etc. but I need your advice on the color cos its a bit confusing, and I want to avoid the boring trafalgar themes, was the ship black and white strip originally or in some point of her life, any input or links would be so much appreciated from you, your love and passion for ships is just amazing ....fred

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

Thank you so very much for the kind words and I am glad that you are buoying the channel. It is true that I have a passion for these ships and ship archaeology! It is my life in every sense of the word. On Bellerophon - hmm, we can talk about it.

@vespelian 9 ай бұрын

She had a sterling history of service for over sixty years but was generally unpopular as a flagship as her accommodation was not considered up to the standard of other ships despite her qualities, though Rupert evidently thought otherwise in 1673.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

He considered her the best ship. Mind you, he did not suffer fools gladly and may have liked exactly the lack of accommodation and thus room for hangers on :-). He also was a rather Spartan giant of a man

@vespelian 9 ай бұрын

@@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist Rupert was stalwart Calvinist soldier and perhaps the only man on either side in the English Civil War to take the unnuanced cause of divine right of kings literally in the continental fashion. A fascinating if highly reactionary man.

@g-kip 9 ай бұрын

Without the original drawings and models, Experts may surmise what is right and what is wrong, but unfortunately as no one alive today has ever seen the ship, no one can be sure of exact details. There are numerous kits of the ship on the market, they are all different, none of them resemble the Model that was displayed at the opening of the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich which dates back to 1827.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

To some extent I agree with you. However, we do have quite a bit of knowledge of how ships were built at the time, the van de Velde drawings, archival data. There is a set of lines drawings that dates to about 1827 and it has been suggested that it is a redrawing of an older original. For the Charles Galley also only the copy survives. The framing patterns are known, the round tuck is undoubted. As to the kits, weeeell….. I’ll leave it at this :-)

@oliverglier8605 9 ай бұрын

I have no problems when different interpretations of the same ship exist, even if some features of it are unusual. But I do think that those interpretations should adhere to physical limits and in general to what was customary in the respective period. If the Sovereign would have been built as described in McKays book, contemporaries would have described her as clumsy in appearence, with unusual layout and equipment, and of bad sailing qualities. There is no evidence that this was the case.

@manconefrederic8352 9 ай бұрын

THE SOS s next on the line I have both the horrible deagostini and the mantua hopefully I can make a close to real deal type of ship with that

@g-kip 9 ай бұрын

The Deagostini kit is not accurate at all, one of the things to look out for are the deck heights , one of the decks is 4ft in height. Also both the kits you mention the forcastle is wavey, however a model in Greenwich Museum shows it as straight, as does Mckays drawings.

@manconefrederic8352 9 ай бұрын

yeah, i saw that on your vids about the Deagostini and saw the model at the Somerset House, she is not at the NMM anymore, btw Are you still able to reproduce the 6 gunports deco from the beakhead bulkhead, that you did on yours? i ask a while back , you said might take a while , no rush , its for next year. I am still working on the Bellerophon at the moment cheers ...@@g-kip

@g-kip 9 ай бұрын

@manconefrederic8352 yes no problem, I'm going to try to get them done this week, I will use my resin printer so the detail should be better than the originals which were printed on a filament printer

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

Out of curiosity, are you modeling her as launched or as she was at the height of her glory? All kits that I know, show her only in her original version. Were it me, I would model her as she was in 1673.

@manconefrederic8352 9 ай бұрын

you are a star just let me know how much you want for it , I am based in London uk

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 9 ай бұрын

Thank you! How much do I want for what?

@manconefrederic8352 9 ай бұрын

sorry this message was attentededfor g-kip only lol g-kip @@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist