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This feels very much like a transitional record, for sure. The band were definitely still finding their feet in the wake of Curtis's death. The leap in quality from this to the next record is stratospheric.

Movement is a fantastic album, but unfortunately, it's an album that is often overlooked and much maligned (including by some members of the band). From my perspective, it's a solid first album (from New Order) with some brilliant songs like Doubts Even Here, The Him and Dreams Never End. Peter Hook's bass in Doubts Even Here just blows me away, even though it's such a simple riff.

Movement was a continuation of Joy Division, containing a few of the songs that would have been featured had Ian loved. Also, it features Martin Harnett on Production. I can here Ian on 'Doubts Even Here'

ICB stands for Ian Curtis Buried.

It's good you'll listen to New Order's 5 first classic albums, but I'd add Republic to that list. It's great aswell, and I'd definitely recommend checking it out!

Movement isn't my favorite New Order album, but it has some great moments. "Dreams Never End" is a classic, solid track. That line in the second verse always gets me: "A love is wrong for your life and soul. A savage mind had begun. Hello, farewell to your love and soul. Hello, farewell to your soul." "Senses" is my favorite track. I love that drum beat overlaying everything else and some of the weird sound effects they experimented with. And the outro to "Doubts Even Here" is killer.

Could not recommend Stereolab more... Have a listen to Dots & Loops or Cobra & Phases Group Play Voltage in The Milky Night. Very clean 90s sound and super simple instrumentation but gorgeous. I think you would like them for the same reasons you enjoyed Age of Consent from New Order tbh

@alex haitz actually Siouxsie and the banshees dropped their first album The Scream on 1978 and was quite punk no punk.

My favourite New Order album by far ! And in my opinion,better than "Power,Corruption & Lies". Best track on this album is "Doubts Even Here" by far their most JD sounding song apart from "In A Lonely Place" and "Ceremony".

The Cure and JD played concerts together.

React to Strawberry Switchblade!!! Theyre a new wave goth pop group from Scotland with an extremely unique look. I fell in love with their sound as I’m a huge fan of synth and harmonization. From what I know about them they had a huge influence on the Lolita subculture in Japan. They dont have too much music but the substance they created is quite a gem.

After New Order.. I'd recommend The Church. Australian band that is very new wave + good guitars. Big in the late 80s.

Movement is cool. I think it could have used the second version of Ceremony on it, or Procession. Those are incredible tracks. But as stand-alone singles they work great too.

This one is very good.

so, you didn't notice the 2 different lead singers on this album then? :) barney and hooky were sharing the load on this first album until they found their feet for the second album and stuck with barney (guitarist)

Robert Smith was guitarist for Siouxsie and the Banshees after Mcgeogh's death.

The Him is my favorite track on this album. The bass is strong and angry.

Interesting reaction as always! You were far more enthusiastic about this album than I expected you to be...but then again, you're hearing it "now", whereas I first heard it in the context of 1981: After the whirlwind of passion and purpose that was Joy Division, there was huge expectation about this record at the time, and (in my opinion) although as you say, there are some very interesting sounds here, where it falls down is that it seems to lack a direction, or a storyline. It feels lost and homeless, almost numb, compared to the JD albums that preceded it. Bernard Sumner, the vocalist and lyricist on all tracks except Dreams and Doubts (vocals are by Hook on those two, and possibly lyrics too), said later that he tried to write the lyrics in Ian Curtis's semi-abstract style and he admitted that he wasn't much good at it, so after this he stopped and just wrote in his own, more personable style (compare the lyrics on Power C & L - totally different). The recording process on this album was drawn-out and not enjoyable for the band, as producer Martin Hannett was beginning to succumb to his drug problems and was behaving a bit erratically. The band stopped using him after this album. For me, songs like Truth are very good musically, but lyrically the only sense I get is of numbness, of a man not knowing how he feels any more, or even afraid to express himself fully. The only song I connect with on an emotional level is "Doubts" as the lyrics sound like a desperate plea to a lover, something human and warm ("Please don't turn away, I need you near to me, now"). It didn't help that this album was released only a few weeks after "Still", the Joy Div compilation of unreleased/rare material, which only served to underline just how powerful a body of work that band had created. At that point in time, Joy Div dominated the sound of indie music in the UK to such an extent that it seemed like every new band had been influenced by them to some degree. Their shadow loomed very large, and so it was kind of expected that the first new album by the actual musicians themselves ought to surpass, or at least match the dizzy heights of their own legacy. Sadly, it seemed that New Order hadn't quite reached those heights, at that point.

At the time it kinda got lost for me maybe cos I just thought it was convenient to keep the joy division sound But listening to it now it's great album it's a great prelude to power c,and lies to me the transition is temptation to a more optimistic sound Alex listen to hurt, cries and whispers procession and your right about ceremony they actually played the track live as Joy Division also they were around a long time before unknown pleasures as Warsaw

Hook did vocals on 2 of these tracks DNE & DHE (& In a Lonely Place). Ceremony & IaLP weren't "kind of" a JD song. They were rehearsing it w/o tapes before Ian died. Freshly as NO, they originally tested themselves a bit to see who would sing. The focus on synths was because JD had an internal agreement that if anyone left, they'd change the sound and keep going as a group. They've said that with Hannett still producing, this was the last JD album while PC&L was the first real NO album (they said). If you really want your mind blown, listen to versions of She's Lost Control a few times so it's really glued in your heard and then immediately jump to the really long version of A Forest from the 1992 tour video "SHOW." You'll catch the Easter egg.

Basically this album is VERY Joy Division.. not much new order here.. love it!

Substance 87 has most of the singles that are not on the first albums but were made at that time.

Please can you add to your list of albums Anna Von Hausswolf - Dark Magic(this one is very unique) and Weyes Blood - Titanic Rising (absolutely gorgeous) DM got 3.74 RYM score which is very high and TR is the second best album of this year with a score of 3.78

It would be cool to see you react to some Industrial album. Like Horse Rotorvator by Coil, that one's a classic, or Ape of Naples (also by Coil) for a more electronic and "post-industrial" sound. Would you consider these?

Third track is Joy Division too.. 3 great tracks so far.. WILL be buying this album NOW

Oh yes.. Peter signed my cd copy of Closer.

Look up Siouxsie and the Banshees Painted Bird Live 1982

React to The Chameleons Script of the bridge....

Movement is like Joy Division's swan song album. They just had a fill in for Ian.

Second track is Joy Division.

smashing pumpkins frontman billy corgan joined new order for a bit, so there probably actually grunge too.

Factory records,manc through and through and a glorious failure i heard it described as once. New Order were pioneers for SO many that followed. British Electronica of the time is unequalled.

Ok album. Brilliant cover.

ICB is clear Joy Division.. this is the way step inside..

Prefer Movement to PCL - amazing album

Parts of this album are pretty forgettable, like they were trying to find a balance between all the instruments. But there are a few very good songs in my opinion: The Him, Chosen time, Doubt Even Here, Denial. Other songs are okay but not as good: Senses and Truth mostly. I would love to hear a remastered album with the different mix tracks recalibrated a bit.

I C B Maybe be for " Ian Curtis buried " but he was cremated and just a stone plaque in the graveyard 🤔

Dreams never end is a brilliant song. Pity about the rest of the album though as it's really bleak. Probably something to do with ian Curtis's suicide.

I.C.B = Ian Curtis buried ....

First track musically is The Cure.

TCBY.

One of my favourite New Order albums. Don't like cover art tho.