Top man 👍🏻

Like I say in the video you have 2 months grace so the report can be 2 months early and still keep the same expiry dates and if the cooker and fire are the tenants you will still need to visually inspect the tenants appliances you can find the information in appendix 5 of igem/g/11

Thank you so much, I will print it from igem.

Yes it is

You might already have one.

some smoke alarms have them built in, it will say on smoke alarm

Cooker are not mandatory for analysing. You only need to analyse a cooker if you have concerns

@@tomkatgastraining OK thanks pal 👍🏽

I already have done check out the channel

@Tomkat Gas Training Thank you very much. I found it 3 parts

In a none emergency it’s AR and in an emergency it’s ID

And when you’ve done the boilers Inlet pressure you’ve got 18.5mbar. When you tested this was the other appliances on, they must have been ? Aswell to add to the first comment, you said the fire needed a 20mbar inlet pressure, but if all the appliances were on the fire wouldn’t have its 20mbar inlet pressure required ?

Ariston boilers do not require screws please always read manufacturer instructions before you start putting screws in flues you could be creating an AR

No need to test the PRV and yes you need to check it’s termination and the condensate

£30???? I charge that for knocking on your door lol Jokes aside if cp12 are done correctly they should cost 75-100 each but the downwards pressure on price (caused by stingy landlords) has made doing certs a in and out job.

I charge £80 not worth it otherwise I would be there for a couple of hours for 3 appliances

Nice video. Haven't used paper CP12 for at least 10+ years. Normally copies are unreadable after 2 years. Also as you have shown that your faults etc look messy and it's always a case of scribbling additional notes which you are limited to do due to space on certificate. I use digital software by gas engineers software. Far superior and professional than the cheap paper version. You get quality technical support. Certificates/invoices/ estimates are always updated as and when required. Best thing is customer gets minimum 14 notice of certificate due. Plus if carried out within 2 month period the certificate gets automatically adjusted 👌 Each to there own but certificate gets emailed as soon as your ready with attached invoice. OK that aside. Derek you try and run a vaillant /Worcester Bosch for minimum of 15 mins on your analyser just not gonna happen in my experience. I agree with other comments about £30 charges. It's for the engineer to explain to the Landlord that what he's going to get and especially if any faults are there will be notified and not ignored by those on the in/out style services. Great to see you taking new fellas along with you so they learn on site experience but I presume that's at there cost 😉😂 Anyway a brilliant detailed video as usual 👌

Sorry meant to add. In the fault section 1-5. I understood that they corrosponded to the appliances installed above🤔 So I would of put that note re tamper seals after the last appliance 👌

I know companies getting subcontractor who are gas safe asking them to go to 4-6 properties a day out of 1 house in 15 mins. Pure bs money making scheme for the company. Dont work for any small business as all they want to do is make as much money as possible from u and u will be the one liable not the main contractor

The condensate pipe would need a visual inspection to see if it is installed correctly and it’s not allowing CO into the house

@@tomkatgastraining thanks for the quick reply Tom really appreciate it. So if an installer has left condensate pipe going out of external wall not connected up to drain would this be flagged up on the cp12? Should it just be an advisory or a fail?

@@jct4111 a cp12 isn’t a pass or fail. If it has been installed incorrectly but isn’t dangerous you just note it but obviously if it’s dangerous you would need to act on it.

You are correct but like I say it’s not our responsibility at the moment it’s solely the landlords

@@tomkatgastraining My concern is soon as you tick that yes box you are now liable for it as you have stated it's working correctly!

@@KZfaqHero666 no we are not so don’t worry

As you know you require ckr1 to carry out a cp12 with cookers let’s hope your company isn’t audited by the council and gas safe and found out because they will lose the contract.

Landlords

The cp12 must be done on the boiler and visual inspection of the cooker noting on the cp12 that it’s owned by the tenant

Cheers derek👍

No just rented properties

Thankyou.

If you haven’t got 20.6 o2 outside the house how do you expect to get more than 20.6 in the flue.

Muff fitter😆

So it gives them time to put problems right and they don’t loose any time on the certificate.

So looks like every service will put back the current certificate 3 months each year so you can never rely on setting a time of year for it to be done. After two years you are back with a winter service.

Not all flue systems require screws

You can’t carry out a landlords report on appliances you are not competent to work on. It’s not that you can’t repair them it’s you are not qualified to work/ test safe operation of them. So the landlords report would be void if you worked on the appliances not qualified for. You could also be breaking the regulations.

@@tomkatgastraining I thought that myself, I was in college last week and they disagree. They said you can check but not work on I like your videos, great work 👍

@@jonhunt8107 how can you check something without working on it. Have a read of appendix 5 of igem/g/11 you might find you was correct 👍🏻

Mr negative again. Mate how do you get through live being so negative doesn’t it get boring and depressing

Derek mate just let it go over your head. Maybe this fella should stop watching your helpful videos 👌😂

If you are referring to the boiler not being screwed Ariston boiler flues are not screwed. Always read the manufacturer instructions to see how the flue should be installed because you could be AR a boiler when you shouldn’t be.

If any would be engineer listens to you they would not understand how safety devices work or how much gas you need for an explosion. Turning off an appliance does not check the safety device.

You’re absolutely incorrect, turning off the gas control knob and waiting for the audible click within the specified time frame is the correct way to carry out this test.

@@nje657 no it’s one of the ways not the correct way and as I said you are not testing the safety device turn off the gas.

Of course you are, it doesn’t matter how the flame is extinguished, the safety device should still isolate the gas supply once the flame has gone. The difference is, if you turn off the control knob to the appliance you aren’t letting unburnt gas flow out hoping the device will activate in the correct time frame. Once the gas valve has closed/you’ve heard the click you can turn the control knob back on and no gas should be coming out of the injector. I’m struggling to see how you can’t understand this, it’s a basic test.

@@nje657 I don’t struggle to understand you say it’s the correct way but it’s one of the test but I will teach and you can continue to preach.