Forget EVERYTHING You Think You Know About HONING! These NEW Abrasives TRANSFORMED Our OLD Hone...

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7 ай бұрын

Just because you have an "old school" hone doesn't mean you're stuck with "old school" cylinder bore finishes. These new abrasives (especially the special deburring abrasive), can produce an incredible modern finish even on an old school Sunned CV-616, and it can do it all in less than .001 of an inch.
Forget about the old method of using conventional abrasives and taking out .001 to .0015 to finish. This process along with these abrasives allows for less stock removal and creates a longer lasting finish.
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@scottwilliams5196 7 ай бұрын

Excellent info, thank you! Still waiting for the honing tips for my harbor freight drill!😉

@kuyaearly143 7 ай бұрын

🤣thanks

@billshiff2060 7 ай бұрын

I started that plateau honing back in 1982 in pro stock. This is a good refinement.

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@kuyaearly143 7 ай бұрын

so your old af 😆

@billshiff2060 7 ай бұрын

@@kuyaearly143 Yeah, I was building Pro stock engines before you were a brown stain on the mattress.

@hotrodray6802 6 ай бұрын

The diamond two step and then bottle brush is definitely worth power. The first spec sbc 355 engine @500 hp we did 24 yrs ago we gained 8 hp. The second was up 11. Be sure to use the correct rings for this finish.👍👍

@Rattdogg4q2 7 ай бұрын

There's a lot of Power and Longevity when you get your hone right....good stuff

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Thanks

@JAMSIONLINE 7 ай бұрын

Great info. Are y'all able to supply the ordering numbers for the abrasives used in the video?

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Yes, contact the Total Seal office and tell them you want the abrasive kit. We have different ones for the different hone machines.

@802Garage 7 ай бұрын

Ey good to see you here! I would LOVE to see a collab!

@802Garage 7 ай бұрын

@@TotalSeal Make sure you check these guys out. You could make some awesome videos together.

@damicoengineslimited8861 5 ай бұрын

Great news! Thanks again Lake for providing us with facts we can work with 😊

@TotalSeal 5 ай бұрын

Our pleasure!

@bobirving6052 7 ай бұрын

Great info. Keep that engine alive!

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Always!

@LOUIS-fp3bv 7 ай бұрын

Lake Speed Jr, I grew up by Deer Valley Airport. Total Seal Deer Valley Airport. Used to be owned Deer Valley Airport by Art Linkletter.

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Super cool!

@jayroese4413 7 ай бұрын

Great channels. I am in need of an education on honing and rings for alcohol engines. Input on oil needs and maintenence will help greatly. I am financing an Oswego super modified this coming year. Might make a couple of good shows.

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Thanks! Call the tech department at 623-587-7400 for tech support.

@bigal878 7 ай бұрын

Great video 👍🇦🇺

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@TheWoodButcher86 7 ай бұрын

What if you guys did an oil test simulating a leaky engine. How adding oil, say simulating and engine that leaks a quart every 2 weeks or so, changes the oil sample analysis or if it changes your oil change interval a little bit. And maybe how it could chamhe the life of the already existing oil or decrease power and increase wear. I dont know, just a thought.

@randysrestoration 6 ай бұрын

Good Stuff as Usual~

@TotalSeal 6 ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

@mikemal2595 7 ай бұрын

Hey this might not pertain to this particular video, but I own a 2023 Dodge Ram Big Horn 5.7 V8 So the only oil you did not test Redline synthetic oil. And would you recommend ,Techron fuel system additive to help clean engine. Keep up the good work. Your knowledge and how you explain things to us as the viewers. It's outstanding.Thanks.

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@sdc0386 7 ай бұрын

Very nice👍

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@rayowens4355 7 ай бұрын

Fot the initial rough-in hone, is the diamond pads required? Will a similar grit standard stone yield similar results?

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

The Diamonds are required for this process.

@syman9556 7 ай бұрын

Can you tell me what the ring end gap will be with this ring kit with a fresh 4.030 bore ? CR3690GP 30. Thanks!

@AlanRoehrich9651 6 ай бұрын

Lake, If we're using a Sunnen GHSS head, what are the correct part numbers for the three abrasives? No one at PRI that I was able to talk to could tell me anything about that third abrasive. They mentioned some sort of Scotch Brite in the seminar at Rottler. Sorry I missed you at PRI, but you were busy every time I saw you, and I hate to be rude and hang around like a vulture. I spoke with Keith and Ed briefly. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, buddy!

@TotalSeal 6 ай бұрын

Alan, call Kenny Harris at Tennessee Abrasives. Tell him you want the Total Seal Diamond, CBN, Scotch Brite kit.

@Parker211Racing 4 ай бұрын

Are these honing jobs and tips being done on steel cylinders or a nikasil coated type of cylinders? I ask because most of my engines are coated cylinders and wanted to know if you would use the same process

@TotalSeal 4 ай бұрын

These are for cast iron liners and blocks. Nikasil is a different beast.

@roostingthe6520 7 ай бұрын

I'm assuming that was a stock block to get the rvk that high with 170.

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

World products block.

@c.hibdon1628 7 ай бұрын

I can smell that MAN-845 oil!

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

LOL

@deadsimpleband6922 7 ай бұрын

Try VALONA 2150 S and you'll never regret it, no smell, and very mild on the hands.

@JoseRodriguez-fy9so 4 ай бұрын

can you help us where to purchase those exactly stones? for my cylinder king CV616 sunnen

@TotalSeal 4 ай бұрын

Contact Tennessee Abrasives.

@michaelfarrell6448 7 ай бұрын

Why do my machines squeal when honing . Same machine same abrasives different fluid

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Different fluids have differing levels of lubricity.

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Quaker Cut 004PE works great with Diamonds.

@clarkmcmahan1595 7 ай бұрын

Is that man=845 they are using ?

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Yep

@jayoheyo9750 5 ай бұрын

i'd like to know where i can get those stones for a ck/cv sunnen..

@TotalSeal 5 ай бұрын

Call our tech department 623-587-7400

@05LS2 2 ай бұрын

How many strokes and load for the deburring abrasives?

@TotalSeal 2 ай бұрын

5 strokes at 25% load

@jrobpat0154 7 ай бұрын

Why put a head gasket between the block and the torque plate ?

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

It changes how the clamping load is distributed, so it is important for getting it 100% right.

@jrobpat0154 7 ай бұрын

@@TotalSeal Presumably you could use an on old, used one to save money

@donwasse7892 7 ай бұрын

Is there a stone set for the handheld guys out here? Say the Lisle 15000 cylinder hone?

@TotalSeal 7 ай бұрын

Nope, the handheld hones don’t have enough power for the diamonds.

@donwasse7892 7 ай бұрын

@@TotalSeal I don't understand. The hone itself has no power, it's the drill you connect to it that powers it. 120 grit is nothing for even a modern cordless drill. What am I missing in order to understand why this setup would not work fine? Sure, a machine shop would be better, but plenty of areas around the country don't have competent machine shops or wait times are 6 months +. Let alone finding one that can do this process. I was thinking about it, hand honed block in combination with Total Seal - Total Conform rings seems like a match made perfect for all us diy. I would love to use the 1mm 1mm 2mm or thinner ring sets you've talked so much about and grab an extra 20ish? torque/horsepower.

@deadsimpleband6922 7 ай бұрын

@@donwasse7892 The CV and CK have 2 HP and have been said to be borderline for diamonds. A hand held drill/hone at 2 HP would be quite a challenge for even the strongest of guys.

@donwasse7892 7 ай бұрын

@@deadsimpleband6922 that makes sense. Thank you for the information.