Yeah, perfect for many people. It's a lot cheaper, arguably more 'fun' and still comfy enough for rider and pillion with decent power. Ade

Nice one. Cracking bike. Versatile and well made. No need for anything else! :) Ade

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Yeah, one only needs power for long trips with pillions but, hey, it's not to always have it on tap for those long empty roads :) Ade

Ah! Ha. I haven't uploaded it yet! Almost bought one so was saving the video. I will get it out in the next 2 weeks. Good point about being strong enough. It does take a bit of strength and experience to support the bike when it stops. I actually wouldn';t fancy it with a pillion on the back in that respect as I have no experience. There are absolutely NO faults at all on the Tiger 1200 or the GS1250 - none at all. Comes down to personal preference. I also really like the KTM Super Adventure I took out but the dealer is just too far away really. I do like local dealers if I can. Ade

@@RevMonkey I wanted something that would do everything well including 2 up trips away but the Triumph was just too big and top heavy for me at 5'7" short so I went for a GS in the end though I get what you mean about having a local dealer as the nearest to me is a BM one! Cheers Ade.

@@Bazza47 Nice. You absolutely cannot go wrong with a GS. Interesting to see what you make of my review when i load it up. All three of us on the show took it out - all loved it. Enjoy your bike! Ade

@@RevMonkey Once it's posted I will LOL

I wouldnt get the 800 Lenny - great as it is. I would relish the extras the 1200 offers all day long. Overall though, I propably wouldn't the 1200 either. I feel more drawn to the GS and the Africa Twin. Ade

Hi Gordon! You sound like me as that is probably how I would put it. I have held off buying an adventure bike until the new AT is out. I've actually put a deposit on it just in case. The problem really is that the one I want (Sports Adventure with DCT and the top suspension) is just over 16K which brings in the GS. I think the new AT might be a giant killer so I can';t proceed with anything else as much as I would like something through the winter. I suspect that I will follow through with my purchase when I get my first ride on one - though, damn, the 1200 Tiger in XRT spec is also that price and is awesome. Agh... too many manufacturers making too many good bikes! What's a man to do!! :) Ade

@@RevMonkey Hi Ade, as you say all the new bikes these days are good, I suppose the trick is to determine which has the features /looks and ride that differentiates them and thats where the reviews help. I am currently riding a Honda X-ADV (after a: Hornet 900, Crossrunner, Tiger 800 XRT), my trouble is I find the X-ADV boring and not very exciting. It is a pretty good bike and is easily good for doing well over three figure mph and would be good for touring, but I don't tour, I just do local rides (3 hours), so what to do, I think the new base AT would work, but there again is it too off-road biased? And it's cost, I think I'm heading to the new Tiger 800 but there again, have they fixed the tramlining. decision, decisions. Cheers Gordon

@@gordonLP Ha, I know that feeling. I go on so many bikes, actually choosing one is a nightmare. Tell you what is the dark horse - one I have yet to ride - is the Multistrada 950 - not too much more money than the Tiger 800. I will go on it soon I hope. Ade

@@RevMonkey Hm, agree it does look quite good and I did go over to my local Ducati (and KTM and Triumph) dealer in Ashford to have a look at it, I didn't sit on it as it was buried deep in a bunch of other bikes, but it looks pretty tall (I'm only 5'8"/ 28" inseam, and I haven't checked out the official seat height). It will be interesting to see your review and hear your verdict between the bikes if you manage to get a demo. Cheers Gordon

@@gordonLP Ah, yeah, a 28 inch inside makes some of these bikes a bit to wieldy at low speeds and stopping. They are all fairly similar so, for me, it will likely come down to the best features on the bike and the finance deal to be honest. I'd be happy with any of them. Ade

Yeah, big rival. Similar price, comes with some good standard bits. I think the Tracer GT looks better as well. I like both Marques equally so it would be a hard decision for me. The Tracer engine is better IMO so would get that. However, if I had the money I would still get the 1200. Ade

Agh, yeah,. this does squeeze the price gap down but makes sense if power is not the end-game. Ade

That's what I did, the XRT has some nice extras and the suspension (Showa) is better than the XRx too.

@@applecorp Fair point.makes sense to me. I certainy will always try and the best derivative of a model as I do get bike envy :) Ade

Of course, if money is the biggest factor. Ade

I am now a big fan of TFTs is they are not TOO cluttered. I still think the best one I have seen is on the KTM Super Adverntuer but losing recall a bit so I might be wrong, Ade

I agree. Triumphs are epically made these days. Very, very strong bikes. It's all in the details. Ade

Ha, great question. I think it would have helped sliighty but the tech, poise and power of the 1200 is a big draw for me personally - so it would always win for me and I would just have to stomach the extra payment amount and play it down with the missus :) Ade

I'm with you. Ade

AH, so it's not just me! The brakes do feel weak but it is something one gets used to. Ade

@@RevMonkey After owning a Street RS i was spoilt with those Brembo M50's. You can stop on a dime lol. The Tigers brakes were shocking in comparison. Rumour has it that the 2020 model will feature stronger brakes and an engine with more punch :)

@@HJM1974 That would be good news. I recall the brakes on m Speed Triple being good and thats a heavy bike. Strange that Triumph put underperforming brakes on.

@@HJM1974 I have the XRT, I would describe the brakes as 'adequate', which is a surprise considering they are Brembo's.

applecorp would be nice if they had a little more bite to them :)

Yeah.. 1 litre plus for these sort of bikes for me. Ade