Same... Back to the Pop Farm and the Pain Mines we go

Same

I booted up dbd. Closed app when I saw Chaos shuffle has ended.

@@sealman5229 back to the windows crutchers as well. So fucking annoying.

Same, I don't even feel like launching dbd to play since it's gone...

As a good guy,l aficionado, I too also empathise this

@@spiritupgrades I too also further additionally as well.

@@DrakoWulf Are you missing the window scamper

@@spiritupgrades What?

@@DrakoWulf the window scamper?

I mean to be fair how can you fix nurse without totally reworking her. As along as she has her teleport at all she effectively negates nearly all the resource elements of the game.

@@austinrobinson6342 delete her so killer can have good perks

I swear the sheer existence of Nurse infuriates me sometimes

@@austinrobinson6342Yeah but she's been a problem child for over 7 years now it's embarrassing that they still haven't 💀

I’d argue the reason nurse isn’t touched is because of the skill gap required to use her effectively. I’m not saying it takes months or years to learn, but it is worth mentioning.

Woa woa woa, they did what now?

@@GoblinSlayerZach can only scamper during slice and dice and the turn rate is not enough often to get hits at loops because of it

@@Kaicho_Fluffy that’s awful, thanks 4 heads up

But they will get lithe if they have it i think cause i did exactly this but the survivor got the speed boost anyway, kinda interesting

​​@@spritecranberry8952That's better than nothing, especially since DH and SB are very popular as well, making it likely that they *don't* even have Lithe. A guaranteed hit outside of a statistically unlikely circumstance sounds good enough to me.

Yep it happened to me, Me and the Killer were really surpised 😂

Knight can do the exact same thing too but stronger since the guards fully block the pallet, mage hand is basically mini carnifex in a way

Happened to me while playing Vecna, got a down for my timing.

I think having to break pallets has always been not worth it, its a giant time waster and makes chases take way longer bc of the distance they gain from pre-dropping and running.

@@oneautumnleaf2622 its why the strongest killers are able to avoid breaking pallets, and the weakest killers have no interactions with pallets

@@kaiseremotion854 yep wish they would make weaker killers have base kit brutal strength and rework the perk to be something different, m1 killers need a QOL update badly

⁠@@oneautumnleaf2622Loop: Mind game: Force them into a different loop:

No way u just said that🤦‍♂️

I mean if something unintentionally happens is that not a bug?

No​@@HardTahc

@@HardTahc not really, it’s not a bug it’s just BHVR not knowing how their perks and abilities interact. STBFL is a great example, it wasn’t bugged but they didn’t account for how strong special attacks saving stacks would be.

@@HardTahc that's an oversight by their internal testing team I doubt they tested this killer with enduring to see how strong it is so its not a bug

Seems like what a bug normally is

That's a bug with the new maps, has nothing to do with mage hand they just sometimes spawn 2 in the same spot.

I dont think its a vecna think, i saw it against a wesker

I had that happen to me yesterday. It's on the new map. I vaulted a pallet and the doctor walked between it and a tree. He knocked me down, then turned around and hit the tree.

They should just make it so when you use mage hand 1 survivor automatically gets hooked when you use another ability a random survivor is mori'd. Vecna too weak

They should make it so that Vecna’s ball actually downs survivors, which then causes other survivors who are 1 meter away from the downed survivor to get Mori’d by 3 other Vecnas.

Sorry about the other kids replying to you. He does not seem like he is in need of more buffs, but it wouldn't be a bad thing. It is a cool idea, but his chase is so powerful already I don't think it would really be useful. As is, you can easily secure guarenteed hits with Mage Hand and Flight of the Damned, and if you land an M1 you can just use fly to catch up to them immediately. If anything needs a buff its definitely not his chase, his cooldowns are fair for how powerful they are. All I want back is the sliding on the fly ability, it feels so clunky to be flying at fast speeds and then for some reason completely stop, when you literally hover and never walk. Cool idea though!

@@vividwizard6166 1 second might be enough to get the flavor without it being big enough to really shift the balance

@@vellycanelly7429 Filthy survivor mains actively campaigning for the game to die

John "Dead" BiDaylight

I feel like I know you

ace vinsconti

what a way with words!

this is the most controversial thing i’ve ever heard in my life

thats what he was trying to do...............

mimics suck, once surivovrs learn they can avoid being damaged. for now it may catch some people new to vecna, but its going to suck in the future.

​@pvdg3515 It still massively slows down the rate at which survivors are able to loot magic items though. The obliviousness can also catch survivors off guard paired with tracking

@@sighlenus8638 "massively" LOL bruh please tell me you joking. This add on is trash

Why would you run rapid brutality when you can just fly all the way up to them after a hit

@@finlaymarsh2862 I use it a lot just to get around and to catch up to survivors but it's not super fast and it still has a sizable cooldown, it can definitely be replaced no problem with some gen regression or something like hubris for lethality. But I'm just a casual player.

you need to have some distance on Vecna to drop the pallet safely, if he is behind you and you drop it he just picks it up and hits you. (But with enduring you don't need to respect the pallet drop so the survivor doesn't have an option in most chases. It is like playing against Spirit Fury & Enduring but it is active every time he has his power and you can't pre drop pallets to avoid the hit)

Gottem

#DeletePyramidHead

@@JakeobE NEO 🙁

They have a huge ego problem. All way back when Dowsey drama happened. When they framed his mostly legit (even if a bit emotional) criticism as personal attack and went on a revenge spree

No, you can use mage hand just before you walk through the pallet. And if the survivor drops it at the same time then it will be picked back up and you get the free hit with enduring. The only change is that you can't lift the pallet back up if you use it before being stunned. So there should be 5 scenarios (1: Vecna respects the pallet, the survivor drops the pallet and Vecna picks it back up for a M1. 2: Vecna walks through the pallet but the survivor doesn't drop the pallet so Vecna cancel's mage hand for an M1. 3: Vecna walks through the pallet and gets stunned. 4: Vecna uses mage hand onto the upright pallet so the survivor can make another loop and throw the pallet down 5: Vecna respects the pallet but the survivor carries on running the loop.)

Basically, instead of getting the benefit of the stun and the run around/pallet break and gaining meaningful distance, the survivors would only gain distance from stunning Vecna- and with Enduring, that stun time goes way down. As things stand, if you cast it juuuust before the pallet gets dropped on your head, the small gap between casting and it doing its thing means that instead of holding the pallet up it actually executes on the now-dropped pallet. This yanks it up during the timeframe where you're stunned and you're able to proceed with only a tiny delay for the stun if you're running Enduring. You then proceed to clap those survivor cheeks because their stun bought them like half a second instead of however long it'd take you to actually break the pallet or go around. The change they're going to make seems to be that if a pallet stun is registered in the window between casting Mage Hand and Mage Hand actually doing its thing, Mage Hand will just cancel instead.

The skeletons have a massive delay and are one of the slowest projectiles. They also have a spread that is very forgiving.

But also on a 45s cooldown

This is literally a thing on pyramid head though

@@Mercer526 Nah, they can just run past or dodge phead

@sorin_markov I mean with ph, if you're holding your power and get stunned with a pallet, if you shoot right as you're stunned, you'll still send the attack and get the hit

If that happens then you lost the 50/50, so I would just say skill diff there. The one when it stuns you is the cheesy one, because with enduring there is NO mindgame. So id wait for the Vecna change and it would be far more fair for survivor and would probably play out like a huntress hatchet.

Isn't that the whole thing about Vecna? RNG? Like the theme of the DnD chapter itself is RNG based play.

The doctor thing is just bhvr spaghetti code, no way in hell a decent enough designer went for that when deciding on paper. It makes no sense for the shock not to work when the surv hasn't initiated the vault yet, i believe it to be more of a technical quirk rather that a design choice. So no, i strongly believe it shouldn't be like doctor, because doctor is simply half baked in that regard, since the outcome in that edge line situation is just "nah mate, it doesn't work"

today

Thats not called being OP, thats called a skill gap between those who can land the skeletons at that exact range and those who cant Additionally just because a survivor cant do anything about a killers power in a 1v1, doesnt mean its op, if anything thats how it should be, you should lose that every time, its an asymmetrical game 4v1 You are supposed to lose badly, in the 1v1

@@Winterstorm91 You're supposed to lose after a certain amount of time. You're not supposed to lose "badly." Even if you're supposed to lose, it's because you depleted your resources or were outpositioned, not because a killer does something that guarantees a hit. While I don't think the skeletons are the worst part of Vecna (Mage Hand on a ton of loops feels ultra brutal and forces pre-throw & go to next loop gameplay which is zzz), the problem here isn't the skill gap between good and bad Vecnas but rather the effort required to succeed for Vecna vs survivor. No matter how hard something is to do as killer, there should always be equitable counterplay from the survivor's spot that would allow them in an unused tile to possibly win the tile. The killer needs to either win the tile or force the resource depletion ASAP.

@@Winterstorm91You have the absolute worst take and that is definitely not fun or rewarding for anyone

The skeletons are near useless at hitting in every other scenario tbh their strong point is zoning out survivors or forcing them to slow down by crouching giving you time to catch up more

@@Crispy_DAWG they should add a gun for pig, and allow me to shoot survivors in the head instantly ejecting them out of my game and uninstalling their game files, but only for me, it would be totally balanced, but nobody else should have it because it'd be a high skill high reward skillgap for good players like me, who have mastered pig.

I miss him... :(

He uses the power just before being stunned

@amememachine8974 so you're raising the undropped pallet? Still sounds like a bug idk im confused. Im still looking all over the video for scott to do it so i can see what it looks like

@@im_taco7580 you input the control for mage hand, which takes a second to lower and lock the pallet in place. During that time, if the pallet is dropped, the mage hand will instead pick the pallet up

Vecna okay balance. Skeletons are too easy to dodge. Fly, Dispel, and Mage Hand are better. Hand of Vecna (the one that lets you teleport to another locker) is a little overtuned for Vecna’s current power state. Killer perks suck. Survivor perks are pretty solid. New map is pretty bad for survivors if you defend the top gens.

@@BigSlopPie I agree with pretty much everything, but survivor perks are solid? They are pretty horrible lol

The killer is pretty op. Skeletons gives guaranteed hits in loops, Mage Hand gives guaranteed hits in loops, he can also traverse maps with ease with Fly, and Dispel provides insane information across the map. Still weaker than Nurse, but he is up there in the OP list.

​@@Pika-ck7ww "skeletons give guaranteed hits in loops" Bait. Mega bait, even.

@@LightBoltDash it's honestly busted, you just need to know how to use it. It can instantly hit as soon as it spawns. You don't want it to travel, you want to cast it on top of the survivor. It's literally a guaranteed hit in loops cuz no one can react to the 0.5s activation time, unless they crouch the entire time during the chase, which is not plausible

I wouldn't say full control, it is a 50/50 scenario similar to huntress, does he pull up and respect? Or does he walk through?

He should be nerfed though

Vecna's strength is entirely contingent on your map knowledge. He has the tools to be as oppressive as a decent Blight with a portion of the skill requirement, but it is entirely down to knowing when you can use his kit to max effect.

He’s hardly weak

Except it literally is? That's part of the reason they've been consistently shrinking maps and lowering pallet counts. Bhvr's far from perfect obviously, but over time the idea that they're biased one way or the other is becoming more and more detached from the actual reality of the game.

Yeah, I have faced a few good survivors who win the mage hand 50/50. The only change it should get is for when you get stunned, because that just made hits too easy with enduring. New players are NOT going to like facing Vecna I don't think due to his ability to lift up pallets. Also if you win the 50/50 and he wastes his mage hand, he can't do it again for 48 seconds and that is a lot of time.

@@Chazza-01 yeah to many survivors hard rely on pallets instead of being good at looping windows an tight loopss