Here's What Survivors of a 'Troubled Teen' Program Say Went On Inside

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3 жыл бұрын

Utah's 'troubled teen' industry has claimed its treatment programs help kids, but some former students say they suffered abuse.
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@VICENews
@VICENews Жыл бұрын
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@girlyaccount7771
@girlyaccount7771 Жыл бұрын
I really wish they didn’t have to go through this :(
@patriciaariley5810
@patriciaariley5810 Жыл бұрын
Mom, was shocked by what I did I was angry with my family and she got served with restraining order.
@thomaskonradyjr1142
@thomaskonradyjr1142 5 ай бұрын
Hello Vice~Dude, I've been watching your channel...from a safe distance and I do not try this at home...🤣 like the Disclaimer says. But the school in Jamaica? I had 3 wisdom teeth come in, and in short, I came out of sedation and on a cornmeal/oatmeal diet, due to the damage a scalpel caused to my throat. It was as if I was choking on fishing line for about a month...no, you couldn't call home. But I did after that. My family mother held an index finger I hanger upper....one wrong word. Nite nite (EDIT) id question the Davis sisters...J&J you know who you are...you can trust anything a male employee of these schools says. Period. But the female employees I've seen speak are on point.
@thomaskonradyjr1142
@thomaskonradyjr1142 5 ай бұрын
*can't TRUST. Edited second time. ***Can't trust male employees*** YT only lets you edit once
@freddiewhite9656
@freddiewhite9656 3 жыл бұрын
Having a complete stranger (MALE!) “supervise” a 13 year old girls shower absolutely disgusts me.
@TIOLIOfficial
@TIOLIOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
A grown adult supervising any 13 year-old's shower is disturbing. It has nothing to do with what you have between your legs.
@ob1934
@ob1934 3 жыл бұрын
@@TIOLIOfficial that's true that it's weird reguardless but it's definitely a lot more weird for a man to supervise a 13 year old female
@TheICEgirl6100
@TheICEgirl6100 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously but in this context it was a girl hence why they said girl
@reizayin
@reizayin 3 жыл бұрын
@@TIOLIOfficial Gender DOES matter in this situation. It'd still be weird if a woman was supervising it, but much less so
@nomad7196
@nomad7196 3 жыл бұрын
@@reizayin why? Would it also be less bad if a woman raped a kid. Is that what you’re saying? Women just get away with it more often
@volgg
@volgg 3 жыл бұрын
Treating a young kid with mental health issues: "Let's throw more traumatic experiences at them! that'll fix em! "
@volgg
@volgg 3 жыл бұрын
and it's disgusting to see some comments defending the system that abuses young adults and kids just to "straighten them out". Have some humanity and empathy
@mikebanks3168
@mikebanks3168 3 жыл бұрын
Straight up! Like yea lets give em a lil PTSD while we are at it. No joke some of these kids probably have PTSD because of these programs
@trippsmclovin
@trippsmclovin 3 жыл бұрын
Silence for 21 1/2 hours a day or else you write a 1500 word essay. Its called a 308: BLATANT RULE VIOLATION.
@martinakula8421
@martinakula8421 3 жыл бұрын
That never works.
@newmessiah6599
@newmessiah6599 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikebanks3168 That's exactly what happens. Speaking from similar personal experiences. Nothing like a happy helping of abuse and ptsd, to instill a lifelong hatred of authority and society in general.
@mariakesk2641
@mariakesk2641 Жыл бұрын
How is this not illegal and classified as child abuse?
@uninterested6741
@uninterested6741 Жыл бұрын
because they make too much money, money talks
@caoimhinbyrne
@caoimhinbyrne Жыл бұрын
when sending your child to these camps you basically sign your rights to them away to the people in charge of it. the camp owns them so it's "technically not kidnapping"
@Babe-vi6cv
@Babe-vi6cv Жыл бұрын
in most states it is. it's why utah specifically has so many of these places, they have really lax child protection laws. some of them also operate in different countries, to add an extra layer of culture shock and as an added security against escape, including after the person turns 18.
@DesGardius-me7gf
@DesGardius-me7gf Жыл бұрын
@@caoimhinbyrne Sucks, but it’s the truth.
@anonymous-0
@anonymous-0 Жыл бұрын
We need action. Now.
@Jequetepeq
@Jequetepeq Жыл бұрын
Not all parents deserve children But all children deserve parents
@Adorable2854
@Adorable2854 4 ай бұрын
Not all parents deserve children Not all children deserve parents
@ezeeproproperties8352
@ezeeproproperties8352 2 ай бұрын
You cannot taste the fruit of that which you don't deserve (have gathered the necessary ingredients for)
@Armistead_MacSkye
@Armistead_MacSkye 3 жыл бұрын
My mother, who has never liked me, tried to send me to one of those places. My Father told her "over my dead body will you send my kid away." RIP, daddy, I miss you.
@killacram7150
@killacram7150 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great man and father!!!
@Armistead_MacSkye
@Armistead_MacSkye 3 жыл бұрын
@@killacram7150 One of a kind. Thanks for replying.
@Ok-qj6fg
@Ok-qj6fg 3 жыл бұрын
May he rest peacefully 🙏
@benlee7947
@benlee7947 3 жыл бұрын
So did you end up going? Sorry but I had to ask
@lalaland5332
@lalaland5332 3 жыл бұрын
😢 SIP TO YOUR Dad!! The real MVP
@pnut8377
@pnut8377 3 жыл бұрын
Utah won’t shut them down because they create jobs!? WTF kind of excuse is that.
@goathead5073
@goathead5073 3 жыл бұрын
Utah is infamous for supporting massive cults on a government scale. Entire towns are completely run by cults. Police, hospitals, social workers, etc. It's exactly like Far Cry 5.
@sourgreendolly7685
@sourgreendolly7685 3 жыл бұрын
Same excuse they use for the energy production that is killing the planet. Profits over people. Sickening.
@SuperSlimshady1
@SuperSlimshady1 3 жыл бұрын
@@sourgreendolly7685 the world Is horrible hopefully the corona will wipe all these bad people out
@aggressivelyamicable5987
@aggressivelyamicable5987 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually a very common situation. It's just choosing the benefit for the majority over the minority, usually at the cost of marginalized parties.
@girlofanimation
@girlofanimation 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSlimshady1, unfortunately, the worst ppl always survive & the most vulnerable suffer.
@schan9547
@schan9547 Жыл бұрын
The whole "r*pe" relive thing is utterly sick. How can such disturbed adults produce anything but damaged and broken babies. There are a lot of unpunished pedophilic; child abusing; sick adults amongst us.
@lilithpowers9686
@lilithpowers9686 Жыл бұрын
I am a survivor of a troubled teen program. I was the first girl at a place called teen challenge in Lakeland Florida. I was 14 and pregnant and sent away almost 2 years and forced to adopt out my baby. I cannot put into words how badly that place messed me up and how much trauma it caused me. I was taken from everything and everyone I loved and had zero contact with the father of my child or anyone else that wasn't in my immediate family. We were forced to do manual labor and we were paraded around like show ponies and forced to share our "testimonies" at church so we could raise money for the program. We were abused, neglected, denied medical care, denied medications, etc. I remover being 8 or 9 months pregnant and I had a double ear infection that was so bad my eardrums bursted and fluid spilled from my ears down my neck...I was in so much pain before they finally got me help. I have so many stories I could share, but I'm just glad I made it out alive...Many, many kids weren't so lucky.
@EEsYouTubeChanel
@EEsYouTubeChanel Жыл бұрын
That’s the part we really need to talk about- the number of people who died. Facebook killed me (someone there decided they could if people report you as dead) and one of my first thoughts was “I better tell people I’m alive so they aren’t upset at me being another statistic even if they never even cared about me.”
@catvergueiro8905
@catvergueiro8905 Жыл бұрын
I am so sorry to hear your story :(
@audrey99yearsago7
@audrey99yearsago7 Жыл бұрын
thats so terrible i am so sorry you had to go through that
@carleewalsh5502
@carleewalsh5502 Жыл бұрын
💛🧡 I'm sorry that happened to you. I hope you're doing better these days.
@sganet_
@sganet_ Жыл бұрын
Ah, Teen Challenge. I’m sorry to hear that. I survived CEDU, sorry for what you went through.
@marckye1
@marckye1 3 жыл бұрын
I blame on "Dr." Phil. He's the one who keeps on encouraging families to send teens on this kind of camps.
@spa-peggymeatballs4861
@spa-peggymeatballs4861 2 жыл бұрын
And ultimately, one of the effects of him sending kids to these camps is normalizing them in our heads. And unfortunately I think we’ve been trained(?)/taught to trust authority figures, so when we see someone with the title Dr., we may not ask as many questions as we should.
@marie_84
@marie_84 2 жыл бұрын
Bc Dr Phil has an agreement with this 'institutions': He gets half of this insurance money!!! He made millions with this!!!!
@robertcrusher1972
@robertcrusher1972 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to learn about why Dr. Phil became a public figure that is actually really a lying grifter, listen to the podcast Behind The Bastards. He has a 2 part episode dedicated to him. The comedy is satire but they cover some serious ground.
@Somebrero
@Somebrero 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s true, he had deals with that turnabout ranch that he must’ve made millions with
@marie_84
@marie_84 2 жыл бұрын
@@Somebrero His net worth is $ 460 million. 😳😒😤🤬
@vxskud
@vxskud 2 жыл бұрын
Adults in actual jails have more rights and protections than these poor kids.
@WellBehavedForeigner
@WellBehavedForeigner 2 жыл бұрын
These kids get insulin
@BLu3RayDiskRang3
@BLu3RayDiskRang3 2 жыл бұрын
Which proves how much adults look down on children.
@tmillz120
@tmillz120 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very true
@lisamariealaniz7538
@lisamariealaniz7538 2 жыл бұрын
I know and It's fucked up laws need to change and start protecting these kids not the evil perpetrators perverts monsters that abuse prey on wemen and children.
@theodorerobert6774
@theodorerobert6774 2 жыл бұрын
Having been through both, jail is so much more free as insane as that sounds.
@tonyamell23
@tonyamell23 Жыл бұрын
The fact that she had a male staff member watching her is disgusting, parents need to learn how to treat their kids and stop shipping them off to places with random people
@manonmarijs7659
@manonmarijs7659 Жыл бұрын
The parents are in no way 'victims', Theo's mom is completely refusing to acknowledge her WILLING part in his abuse. These schools did not condition the parents, the schools just reinforce the parent's pre-existing negative conceptions of their children. The 'adult good - child bad' way of thinking. If parents did not already think this badly of their children, they would not have sent them to this institution. What adult in their right mind thinks when their child asks them for help that he is manipulating them?!
@carolinazamora3205
@carolinazamora3205 2 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. I am getting so furious seeing her take NO accountability whatsoever. She was the fkn adult there. The adult that was supposed to PROTECT HER child. And still she has the AUDACITY to not ever take accountability, not even once!
@JenniferNocera-ms2xd
@JenniferNocera-ms2xd 21 сағат бұрын
I was in a horrible place like this and I do feel like my parents were victims. They spent so much money for me to be abused and were completely lied to about the conditions there. They are still regretful about sending me there. I was 14 when I got there and I'm 37 now. It wasn't my parents fault. They were manipulated.
@sabinajoh
@sabinajoh 2 жыл бұрын
If a school says ”tough love” that’s a biiiiiig red flag
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 жыл бұрын
4:10. WOW.
@rodojama7991
@rodojama7991 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Nightriser271828
@Nightriser271828 2 жыл бұрын
"Tough love" is a euphemism.
@NOOBCRASTINATOR69
@NOOBCRASTINATOR69 2 жыл бұрын
Well...I'm an asian child...soo.
@Heavy_Distortion
@Heavy_Distortion 3 жыл бұрын
Many "troubled teens" are not troubled. Some parents fail to accept responsibilty and connect with their child. They fail to provide a nurturing path forward. Any teenage rebellion is blown out of proportion.
@frenchvanilla7109
@frenchvanilla7109 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a psychiatrist and majority of the time the parents are the problem in these teens lives. It's sad how people bring children into the world and they don't want to nurture. It's detrimental to the child's growth.
@mr.nozzles9121
@mr.nozzles9121 3 жыл бұрын
People only have kids for selfish reasons.
@BeGioBijoux
@BeGioBijoux 3 жыл бұрын
That is soooo true! I was ADHD, my father never got me neurological medication I desperately needed instead punched me and beat me and kicked me on a daily
@MsRizz100
@MsRizz100 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@Marika50
@Marika50 3 жыл бұрын
Proper therapy can do so much good. However, most parents don't have time or patience to work with their kids. Parents are busy working and living their lives, but when a kid is being a kid and acts out, instead of looking at whats going on and how they can reconnect with the kid they just dump them off for others to deal with a problem.
@kylajohnson9848
@kylajohnson9848 Жыл бұрын
One thing that should be brought up more is how difficult it is to receive effective therapy after experiencing abuse in these programs. My abusers were “therapists”, psychologists, and psychiatrists and they gave me life-altering CPTSD. One of the most devastating effects PTSD from of systemic abuse in mental healthcare settings is that it’s almost impossible to treat, as I can’t trust anyone and being in a therapeutic environment brings the memories flooding back. It’s like giving someone an illness and making sure the treatment can never work. Evil
@zoerosicki
@zoerosicki Жыл бұрын
I understand this. My therapist did covert conversion therapy on me, as well as attack therapy and other forms of abuse. I literally have never been able to trust another therapist again.
@jody5661
@jody5661 6 ай бұрын
I understand that very much. I was in copper hills youth center. I don't know how to get help. I want to talk to someone.
@nicholasbogosian5420
@nicholasbogosian5420 5 ай бұрын
I hear you.
@LilyBecca
@LilyBecca 2 ай бұрын
At the very end of the Netflix Documentary, The Program, there is a number you can call if you need someone to talk to. ❤ You are not alone.
@vixikie
@vixikie Жыл бұрын
Children should never be sent away against their own will. Instead of sending them away to let others deal with them parents should try to listen and understand them. There are too many bad parents out there that can't take care of their own children, it is scary.
@sunnylink917
@sunnylink917 Жыл бұрын
Also, these places operate like cults. They brainwash the parents 1st and tell them their kids are liars so don't believe what they say about the program. Then, they use food, water, sleep and toilet deprivation to control the children. Since it's a multi billion $$ industry and there's no government oversight, abuse is inevitable. Counseling for PTSD & trauma, support groups, being an advocate and Ketamine for PTSD have helped me.
@trexasaurus5322
@trexasaurus5322 Жыл бұрын
There’s also many troubled kids. Yes 90% of them are fine, but 10% of them are maniacs. Some people are just born evil
@sunnylink917
@sunnylink917 Жыл бұрын
@trexassouras No child deserves to be tortured! Convicted murderers have more rights. Your comment is inappropriate here.
@missyjo2475
@missyjo2475 Жыл бұрын
Many parents have children because "it's what you do" Society sucks. Don't have kids if you don't want them. And if you do, don't abandon them just because YOU didn't want to raise and teach a human life you decided to bring into this world. You being a general term here.
@sailingmohican2767
@sailingmohican2767 Жыл бұрын
So public schools are a no then?
@Flocherryblossom
@Flocherryblossom 3 жыл бұрын
one of the worst parts is that they train the parents to ignore what the child is saying. They intentionally harm the parent-child relationship and trick the parents just for the purpose of money.
@markoni2536
@markoni2536 3 жыл бұрын
yes but a lot of childrends are lost i was good and i wasnt for this thanx god that i have good parents and i found good rexab centar in vrsac near romania and i was from serbia.but now im on methadone
@lovesallanimals9948
@lovesallanimals9948 3 жыл бұрын
The parents are mindless robots and most shouldn't have kids
@pdp2160
@pdp2160 3 жыл бұрын
@@lovesallanimals9948 good answer
@juliannnha
@juliannnha 3 жыл бұрын
@Jo man the amount of logic you lack is mind blowing 😅
@vice88
@vice88 3 жыл бұрын
@Jo ????????
@magda_lena_0_0
@magda_lena_0_0 2 жыл бұрын
So the kid had depression, suicidal thoughts, abused drugs, harmed himself and they sent him to a facility for "troubled teens" ? Is this how you treat mental issues? With being tough and imposing strict rules? Interesting...
@rosej2895
@rosej2895 2 жыл бұрын
Always threatened me to send me to one. But I literally just had PTSD and didn't know how to handle it because I was so severely depressed
@alkaliaurange
@alkaliaurange 2 жыл бұрын
If you saw the extra, the mother talks about her choice-- he was basically never home and they offered him therapy but he refused. Out of fear of his life, his mother sent him to that facility. Considering her options, I understand why she did it.
@kuywasaamazikeen8048
@kuywasaamazikeen8048 2 жыл бұрын
It is for alot of parents, especially religious ones. My "parents" don't believe in mental illness.
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosej2895 Hate-Preacher KENT HOVIND would probably agree with such Camps and Places though. He has all the wrong Opinions you can ever imagine. God, his Channel is literally Report-worthy, tbh, and i dont say this Lightly. If you wanna go there and flag him for Hate-Speech or Evolution-Denial or any-whatever-thing, then feel free to.
@AlienPain
@AlienPain 2 жыл бұрын
What was their choice? He refused councilling. He is still a whiner. Lives with Mom and she looked terrified talking in front of him. He stared hard at her as if he would attack if she spoke a wrong word. Sometimes people really are what they seem. Entitled brats that can't act reasonably as Adults. An excuse a day is invented for any actions anyone takes, except accountability for their own actions. Js
@marquis101
@marquis101 Жыл бұрын
Wow. This really resonates with me. As soon as he said he got gooned (2 big people showed up and said we can do this the easy way or the hard way) my heart immediately dropped and the flashbacks came back of when I went through the same situation. It was 6 am and I was naked asleep in my bed. And next thing I know there are 2 giant strangers in my room with handcuffs telling me to get up and get dressed and go with them. They said the same thing " we can do this the easy way or the hard way" may parents were standing at the door way of my room refusing to make eye contact with me. I had 2 choice. Try to fight past these people and jump out a 2 story window and run. Or comply. I started crying and just made it easier on myself and everyone around me. I went peacefully. I remember getting in the strangers car and my mom said "I know you hate me right now, but I love you" and as much as I did hate her in that moment. I couldn't have those be my last words to her in that moment. So I just said " I love you too". After getting to Utah (discovery academy in provo utah) I was put on suicide watch for the first 48 hours. I realized how drastically my life had just changed in a matter of hours. No phone. No personal clothes. No wallet. No ID. I got assigned a therapist. Went to classes, went to group therapy. For 3 months I didn't take my weekly phone call to my parents. After 9 months my parents couldn't afford to keep me there. So I was finally sent home. My 18th birthday was in that facility. I had the option to "walk". Which is where you sign a paper that you're leaving with the clothes on your back and that's it. They ship your phone and wallet and everything you came with back to your parents and put you on the street. It was either stay or be homeless in a state I don't know anything about. I stayed. It was awful. They shut the place down years later. Thank God.
@mowl
@mowl Жыл бұрын
Hope you are ok 🥺
@corpserepairservice501
@corpserepairservice501 Жыл бұрын
I would have walked, and come back a day later with a gas can and matches. You're a better man than me.
@alexathemis305
@alexathemis305 Жыл бұрын
I hope you never forgive your parents for such a cruel act, I wouldn’t, especially when they spew out trash “I loves you” ‘s at me
@keemwilldoit1835
@keemwilldoit1835 Жыл бұрын
What were you doing to get sent there ?🤔
@stupidsloth8386
@stupidsloth8386 Жыл бұрын
might ve because you are made by breeders
@shannonstewart1225
@shannonstewart1225 Жыл бұрын
If a kid is giving you a hard time… it’s because your kid is having a hard time. Compassion goes a long way….
@rockerfaerie2
@rockerfaerie2 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t stand these parents (mine included) who act like their kid was fine until one day, then they became awful. What lead up to your son sleeping on others’ couches? Kids in safe homes don’t do that. I know from first hand experience. A lot of parents need some internal reflection and therapy.
@kevinchavez6226
@kevinchavez6226 3 жыл бұрын
The least parents do is take the blame ... is just the kid or other situations
@MrTypicalPlayer
@MrTypicalPlayer 3 жыл бұрын
You ever think your parents may have their own mental problems? The issue goes both ways. Not saying this whole program isn’t fucked..
@thewildcardperson
@thewildcardperson 3 жыл бұрын
Kids suffer because parents are pathetic they should be executed and the kids put in foster care
@courier7
@courier7 3 жыл бұрын
sometimes they're right though, things like brain tumors, head trauma, and other accidents could cause changes in behavior not caused by nurture.
@nyleen
@nyleen 3 жыл бұрын
Parent education is non-existant around the world. My mother was the same. Always blamed me for her life choices and mistakes. I managed to escape at 16. Despite heavy debt I feel much safer.
@laceduplolita
@laceduplolita 3 жыл бұрын
I like how quick that guy said NO when she asked him if he would send HIS kids to one of those facilities
@haydenfaulk4739
@haydenfaulk4739 3 жыл бұрын
NEVER do it, don't let anyone you care about send their kids here!
@jedikaren8112
@jedikaren8112 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Utah. Hes a piece of...
@crizzm3lm863
@crizzm3lm863 3 жыл бұрын
@@jedikaren8112 ?
@bigmoniesponge
@bigmoniesponge 3 жыл бұрын
@@jedikaren8112 ?
@ThePeacePlant
@ThePeacePlant 2 жыл бұрын
@@jedikaren8112 Please elaborate. Name a few things why you say that
@gabrielarodrigues3958
@gabrielarodrigues3958 Жыл бұрын
I would never be able to forgive my parents if they have done it to me. It's cruel, selfish, and stupid to think that punishment and torture work better than affection, adapted therapy and love. Some people are just not ready for the responsibility of raising and educating a human being that parenthood requires.
@strugglingcollegestudent
@strugglingcollegestudent Жыл бұрын
I don’t forgive them but I am financially dependent on them. So I have to play happy family charades.
@lggr2261
@lggr2261 8 ай бұрын
My mom thinks parents were brainwashed why would parnets want to harm the child i said knowing your child was going to kidnapped against his or her will is a crime itself she always thinks parents are always nice reason she sacrificed a lot to rasie me and my sister i told her some parents just dont take any responsiblity
@lolcowsie
@lolcowsie 7 ай бұрын
I forgive my parents because they didn't know better
@AmberH-ku2xr
@AmberH-ku2xr Ай бұрын
I forgave my parents because they did not know what was going behind closed doors.
@sarahhm741
@sarahhm741 Жыл бұрын
This isn't just them 'saying' what happened inside. This IS what happened inside
@formoftherapy
@formoftherapy 3 жыл бұрын
They had WHAT reenactments?! How do these places actually exist? Good fucking grief.
@Horologica
@Horologica 3 жыл бұрын
And I thought the supervised showers were bad enough
@rachels3823
@rachels3823 3 жыл бұрын
They exist because they're good at hiding what they are and there is very little regulation surrounding them. When you're making bank off of torturing kids, you do everything that you can to hide that torture.
@juliasouza2210
@juliasouza2210 3 жыл бұрын
@@rachels3823 and the government and society in the towns they’re located in are biased towards these beliefs, so they basically turn a blind eye
@rachels3823
@rachels3823 3 жыл бұрын
@@juliasouza2210 People are willing to ignore a lot when it means money. These places tend to operate in rural areas with little options for jobs and the local governments are more than happy to welcome them. It also doesn't help that so many people in the US have this idea that in order to be sent away, you had to have committed a crime. You might have to be convicted of one to go to prison as an adult but no such standard exists for children and it's really fucked up.
@rachels3823
@rachels3823 3 жыл бұрын
@Robbie Sarris It's easy to just start over when you're making a massive amount of money off of imprisoning and torturing children.
@worrell30
@worrell30 3 жыл бұрын
On todays episode of: Parent's still cannot accept that they are the source of much of their kids trauma and developmental issues
@greylove2064
@greylove2064 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 жыл бұрын
@@greylove2064 Fascinating how these Programs remind me of Religion as a Whole, thanks to people leaving Christianity or the Muslims have literal PTSD and see themselves as 'Survivors'. Those 2 Religions literally Teach that you cant survive outside of them, which causes an Extra-Layer above their questionable Mental-Health-Treatment; I'm not kidding when i said PTSD... Taking the Risk of going off-topic, but i suggest any Reader of this comment to look at this Link here: kzfaq.info/love/ebiWixaYYDEpQF4wIs1M_wabout I wanna be brutally honest for a moment: Such people are reportworthy. The flag-system is meant for them. Even ignoring that one username literally has the R-Word in it... but theyre just problematic. I found him in the first place because they simply wander around and harass people all around the Internet. Please look at one's username and then... report them please, so future Harassment is prevented. Please do some Prevention here.
@sunflower8227
@sunflower8227 2 жыл бұрын
accept*
@greylove2064
@greylove2064 2 жыл бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 Thank you for this comment it opened my eyes or should I say eye👁
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 жыл бұрын
@@greylove2064 Oh, really? Thats sure nice and warm to hear.
@Jenny010132
@Jenny010132 Жыл бұрын
I was depressed and angry because I was 12 and watched my beloved daddy die of cancer. I’m 44 and STILL depressed and angry because you lied to me, yelled at me, and locked me up instead of helping me.
@k9officerft434
@k9officerft434 Жыл бұрын
No person deserves to have this happen to them. I’m sorry that this happened to you.
@melodynelson7650
@melodynelson7650 Жыл бұрын
This is blatant child abuse. How is this legal?
@LuxuryBeatsMusic
@LuxuryBeatsMusic Жыл бұрын
parents sell their kids off
@soioioioioioio34
@soioioioioioio34 Жыл бұрын
Merica
@thetruthhurts3318
@thetruthhurts3318 Жыл бұрын
It’s clear they ARE ALLOWING it … sadly but it’s the truth
@darcybhaiwala7057
@darcybhaiwala7057 3 жыл бұрын
My cousin was a "troubled teen" and basically the biggest thing that really caused a shift in his life was an English teacher who asked him if he wanted to eat lunch with her and talk one day. (It's always the English teacher.) Love an compassion reaches far deeper than fear
@Emma.S.
@Emma.S. 3 жыл бұрын
Always the English teachers... so true! They only teachers that I really appreciated were the English ones, and I’ve moved around a lot! Something about them...
@ethanstang9941
@ethanstang9941 3 жыл бұрын
How is your cousin doing if you don't mind me asking?
@tybo8873
@tybo8873 3 жыл бұрын
For me it was my science Teacher. She saved me from insanity
@joulupukki1607
@joulupukki1607 3 жыл бұрын
Your cousin was not troubled teen if it was fixed during lunch.. troubled teen is someone with no parents doing heroine being homeless
@amandaallen5038
@amandaallen5038 3 жыл бұрын
Always the english teachers! Mine gave me a journal and said, if you can't talk to anyone else, talk in this book. Get it out of your head.
@lars7935
@lars7935 3 жыл бұрын
If any of this happened to adult prisoners of war you'd call it torture, war crimes and crimes against humanity.
@rachels3823
@rachels3823 3 жыл бұрын
Not even POWs. Just regular prisoners. They still have rights and avenues for complaint if those rights are violated, at least in the western world. Children do not. They're viewed as property, with the "owners" being whoever happens to have custody.
@lars7935
@lars7935 3 жыл бұрын
@@rachels3823 Well let's be real. Conditions in US prisons would count as human rights violations in many countries. But this is several steps above even that.
@rachels3823
@rachels3823 3 жыл бұрын
@@lars7935 Oh, I agree that they would but as bad as they can be, at least they're regulated and there are rules in place regarding the treatment of prisoners. Violations occur, of course, but the protections are there... These facilities? You're very lucky if basic level safety measures are in place. Montana, for example, has a loophole that allows these places to get away with not even doing a background check on the people that they hire.
@lars7935
@lars7935 3 жыл бұрын
@@rachels3823 Ok that's super fucked up even for US standards.
@rachels3823
@rachels3823 3 жыл бұрын
​@@lars7935 Yeah, it's really disgusting. I've had to jump through more hoops to adopt a pet than many of these people have to jump through to get a job working with vulnerable children. I required personal references to adopt a cat recently AND they called the vet that I use for my other pets to make sure that I kept up with their medical care... But a background check for these people? Pfft, who needs that?
@tnasty1081
@tnasty1081 Жыл бұрын
I went to one of these places. It was a truly terrible 7 months of my life in which I felt the darkest I’ve ever felt. Although I came out sober and healthier, I’m truly traumatized by the acts that went on in that place. The staff were corrupt, I had five minutes a week to call my parents. The staff governed everything we did. There was one staff who didn’t like me and she did everything to make my stay miserable. I was so truly broken by that place. They stripped me down to my core. They called me pathetic for not abiding to their rules. They shamed me and degraded me for talking back (standing up for myself). I’m traumatized and my parents still don’t believe me. To all those who have been through these places, I hear you ❤
@StarScream10hut
@StarScream10hut 3 ай бұрын
Was it btr? Kauffman, TX?
@mariahpalmer663
@mariahpalmer663 Жыл бұрын
They completely retraumatized these kids! Disgusting and heartbreaking
@soioioioioioio34
@soioioioioioio34 Жыл бұрын
American parents are no good they use their kids are bargaining chips
@cameroncalzone8860
@cameroncalzone8860 3 жыл бұрын
parents forcing their children into being the parents idealized versions of themselves because of their own failures literally never ends well
@ytb8361
@ytb8361 2 жыл бұрын
Those parents are destroying their children to make them the worst versions of themselves and of humans and animals possible, they are not trying to make them idealized versions of themselves at all
@gabbym333
@gabbym333 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. I have an emotionally abusive mother who I no longer talk to. I never realized, until I read your comment right now, that that is exactly what she tried to do. Dang.
@happyllama1160
@happyllama1160 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand how desperate some parents would be. The mum in the video was right to be worried with her suicidal son running off all the time but she went to the wrong people when she should have sought mental help. Not wanting your son to kill himself or run off when he is threatening to kill himself isn’t idealised.
@terrorgaming459
@terrorgaming459 2 жыл бұрын
c@nsintration c@mps if they did this in uk im p@trol b@ming it
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 жыл бұрын
@Jam D Fascinating how these Programs remind me of Religion as a Whole, thanks to people leaving Christianity or the Muslims have literal PTSD and see themselves as 'Survivors'. Those 2 Religions literally Teach that you cant survive outside of them, which causes an Extra-Layer above their questionable Mental-Health-Treatment; I'm not kidding when i said PTSD... Taking the Risk of going off-topic, but i suggest any Reader of this comment to look at this Link here: kzfaq.info/love/ebiWixaYYDEpQF4wIs1M_wabout I wanna be brutally honest for a moment: Such people are reportworthy. The flag-system is meant for them. Even ignoring that one username literally has the R-Word in it... but theyre just problematic. I found him in the first place because they simply wander around and harass people all around the Internet.
@amandawages4773
@amandawages4773 2 жыл бұрын
Only abusers demand you remain silent. If what’s being done is so “helpful”, why keep it a secret?
@cherismith6366
@cherismith6366 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I say this everyday to myself.
@forgotten6946
@forgotten6946 Жыл бұрын
@@cherismith6366 As they stated this industry is still a thing and unfortunately it doesn’t appear to be ending anytime soon I mean I’m 14 years old and when I snooped through my dads phone finding out he is looking into Shepard’s hill academy or even worse reform schools in Utah it scared me and still does the fact I might be in a similar situation and there is nothing I can do about it is heartbreaking I encourage everyone to help completely outlaw the industry how many more sexual assaults malnourished children and even homicide in these place do you people need to say enough is enough!
@void-mu6ns
@void-mu6ns Жыл бұрын
@@forgotten6946 wait try to show him the real reviews or videos with proof i really hope it helps, and that must be scary seeing that
@Nathan7041
@Nathan7041 Жыл бұрын
The fact that this is being done by ADULTS with fucking LICENSING in a state that already has a trophy or two in abusive family-based organizations, all while making a PROFIT is incomprehensibly abhorrent. Hello, Utah state reps? Please do the bare fucking minimum of your tax-funded jobs and remove these societal CANCERS from our state.
@sadgorl
@sadgorl Жыл бұрын
This.
@danrussell_official
@danrussell_official 3 ай бұрын
Wow, first off: terrifying that these businesses exist. Second off: what parent would think this is a good solution? Sending your kid off to be abused…despicable.
@realgoodmind
@realgoodmind 3 жыл бұрын
My best friend growing up was sent to one of these in Western Samoa and it made him into a maniac. He wasn't troubled at all. His parents never loved him or gave him love the way he deserved. He was taught fear by his dad and his parents worried more about themselves than they did him. He left on his 18th birthday because they couldn't keep him anymore. He came back and was dead within 2 years. Someone literally shot him in their own front yard. Claimed self defense. The preacher at his funeral had the nerve to apologize for him on behalf of his parents at his funeral after he was killed by someone else. No investigation nothing. I left after his whole existence on earth was apologized for in front of a whole church. Bunch of Mfers. He was worth more than any of them.
@leeannatweed8811
@leeannatweed8811 3 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry for your loss. That’s horrible.
@LR-jl3sv
@LR-jl3sv 3 жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear this 💔
@ceaseless246
@ceaseless246 3 жыл бұрын
christopher sutton spent years at the camp in samoa, he actually turned 18 but the administrators talked his father into letting them keep him another year and he had no recourse to get his passport or any other documents. he was convicted for hiring someone to kill his parents a few years after he got out, and i honeslty can’t blame him at all. his dad was an ambulance chasing scumbag who refused to admit that his child was essentially tortured by these people.
@realgoodmind
@realgoodmind 3 жыл бұрын
@@ceaseless246 Sorry about your friend Jack. The torture all the kids there endured is something no one, much less a child under 18, should have to experience. I have seen lots of videos from adults that made it through these programs and they all have the same torturous stories. The monsters that start these "schools' should be put in state jail in gen pop because that's basically what they created for all the kids lives they destroyed.
@Natasha___.
@Natasha___. 3 жыл бұрын
Poor kid, its sad to imagine what the outcome would be if his situation at home was better. I alway wonder how many of the lost souls like the dude in question were destined to be someone special, or important. Yet people who really shouldn't have kids keep pushing them out and the cycle continues. My grandmother was a promiscuous, drug addict, alcoholic, criminal who had 4 sons. One was sent to live with an aunt, he's doing amazing til this very day. The other 3 were in and out of boys homes, reform schools (borstal) young offenders units and prison. First my dad got murdered due to some street stuff, only 25 years old. One uncle was shot in the head and survived but was heavily disabled afterwards. The other uncle died of a heroin and valium overdose alone. This was caused by problems that started generations ago, way before my grandmother and this has affected me which in turn affects my child. These things haunt families for decades, the traumas will still be felt way down the line. Its like some of us are cursed by someone else's actions
@JH-kw8zy
@JH-kw8zy 3 жыл бұрын
These kids needed therapy, meds, and better parents. You don't EVER let someone you don't know take your child at ANY age.
@ayyitskat
@ayyitskat 3 жыл бұрын
Parents teach their kids not to get in a car with a stranger. It amazes me how these "parents" could possibly send their children off with strangers to be "corrected" for days or even years. What did they think would happen?
@cedric-johnson4094
@cedric-johnson4094 3 жыл бұрын
Maby just a normal childhood
@seannoble8948
@seannoble8948 3 жыл бұрын
And keep the meds out of it as well
@paddington1670
@paddington1670 2 жыл бұрын
@@seannoble8948 quiet you, let the medical professionals decide such things. I would bet many of these kids were never cared about and have never even had the opportunity to be diagnosed and given the correct medication for their diagnosis if it exists. Doctors have done more education than you and I combined, that's obvious, because an educated person would not have said that - so let the medical professionals make that decision, not the parents not you, not me.
@seannoble8948
@seannoble8948 2 жыл бұрын
@@paddington1670 Unfortunately medications seems to do more harm than good these day....profits over care
@thegarrettfamily2018
@thegarrettfamily2018 Жыл бұрын
I honestly feel so bad for these people. My mother would talk about these reform schools sometimes. And my best friend almost got sent to one by her mom. Now as an adult and a Christian myself, I actually visited a Christian reform school, I was going there to teach Bible lessons to the kids. Everything seemed somewhat okay on the surface but I always got a bad feeling about it, every time we left. A matter of months later allegations of sexual abuse and neglect were brought against the owners of the school. All of the girls were taken away, sent back home and the school was shut down! The problem I see with these reform schools is that they do not create real positive changes in the children, they simply abuse and force the children to comply. It honestly damages the parent-child relationship more than anything.
@barryjones9362
@barryjones9362 Жыл бұрын
"The problem I see with these reform schools is that they do not create real positive changes in the children, they simply abuse and force the children to comply." -----------------You nailed it perfectly. The strictness of these programs cannot claim the least bit of track record of setting any troubled teen straight, while on the other hand I think the liberals have a decent argument that compassion and friendship have a better chance at achieving reform than screaming and abuse. One problem that cannot be solved easily is the troubled teen that doesn't socialize. Throwing them into a program where they have to interact with other juvenile delinquents sounds like intended failure.
@centerfold8
@centerfold8 Жыл бұрын
I have a hard time with people trying to abdicate their parenting to others. Because often time that isn’t parenting or therapy it’s abuse
@daisypasos2348
@daisypasos2348 3 жыл бұрын
I just can’t imagine being a sexual abuse survivor and yet have to relive the abuse while others yell stuff at you. Being an abuse survivor hurts so much and it fucks you up in ways we can’t even understand now I can’t imagine adding that trauma to the abuse... I hope all the victims get justice and may they heal from this horrible experiences.
@haydenfaulk4739
@haydenfaulk4739 3 жыл бұрын
I went to (CAPU) outpatient with a boy who was raped, he broke down over and over emotionally and physically. He alongside the rest of us were forced to talk about things in a "trust circle" of complete strangers.
@elpapisaint
@elpapisaint 3 жыл бұрын
That’s how they get you. To make you what they want. They break you and program you to be a silent obedient person. Obedient maybe but 100000% broken
@wizzotizzo
@wizzotizzo 3 жыл бұрын
@@elpapisaint Those places were horrible.
@jeffshackleford3152
@jeffshackleford3152 2 жыл бұрын
The more disturbing thing is that the staff went along with it. There have been numerous instances in my employee days when my boss told me to do something, I said ok, then proceeded to not do it. I have never really understood people that just blindly do things their boss tells them.
@Finn-wl7vl
@Finn-wl7vl 2 жыл бұрын
They fully break half broken people to build someone new.
@Cam-pb2ns
@Cam-pb2ns 3 жыл бұрын
I was at Cross Creek... I was there with the girl in this episode with the brown hair, Sarah. It was utterly awful. I was 14-16 when there. Now I’m 35. I have nightmares all the time. You never get over it. Watching this, as soon as they showed the school I burst into tears. I can’t even begin to explain the lasting effects. I’ll live with it till the day I die.
@brebeauty4967
@brebeauty4967 3 жыл бұрын
This is so sad 😭
@Cam-pb2ns
@Cam-pb2ns 3 жыл бұрын
@@brebeauty4967 I just hope that more and more people, and more importantly parents, become aware of this industry and what really goes ont here. Maybe we can make government shut them down but we can put them out of business but ensuring parents of the reality of these “schools”
@zacharykonopa2718
@zacharykonopa2718 3 жыл бұрын
I'm extraordinarily sorry to hear you had to endure this horrendous abuse. I know that because the trauma impacts you severely on a daily basis it can feel difficult to overcome, but as somebody who has PTSD from childhood trauma, I want you to know it does get better. Personally, I wouldn't be as mentally secure as I am now if it weren't for successive MDMA therapy sessions that help me access and overcome my trauma. I'm not suggesting you should just take mdma and will fix your problems because obviously you need to test it, take the right amount, do it in a safe environment with a trained professional or a close friend you feel safe with but it can really help. But even without that option, I want you to know that you're brave for making it this far and even though our trauma may never fully leave, it can be DRAMATICALLY reduced and I hope you're able to experience that reduction yourself. Nobody deserves to go through this bullshit that's imposed upon us and although I can't imagine what you've been through, I hope somebody you're able to find peace despite it. Much love man
@Cam-pb2ns
@Cam-pb2ns 3 жыл бұрын
@@zacharykonopa2718 funny you mention that Bc I actually have taken mdma but it wasn’t intended as therapy rather socially and in music settings but what I didn’t know and what ended up happening is a huge awareness of myself and what I’ve been through and also the courage to talk about it with my friends. I wouldn’t say it was the solution but it did 100% help along my journey. It’s easier now... to talk about, think about, remember. But every so often there are triggers which is likely normal but I’ve learned a huge part of overcoming them is just the ability to share them. Even reading your story. Knowing that we have that in common. We all as humans are so much more alike than we sometimes think. I too hope for nothing but good days ahead for you and in the hard times just know you’re not alone.
@zacharykonopa2718
@zacharykonopa2718 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cam-pb2ns Haha wow, I’m glad you were able to have that experience it even if it wasn’t for therapeutic intentions. If you’re not averse to taking the substance then I suggest taking it again with the intention of dealing with some more of your mental baggage. The first time I took it, I didn’t get that much done in terms of overcoming my trauma but it just showed me that I could feel happy instead of emotionally numb. Even just knowing I was capable of feeling emotions really helped me deal with the depression I had at that time. The more times I take it the less my trauma impacts me, it’s a gradual process and like you say, I’m sure my trauma won’t fully leave but I would’ve never imagined I could be where I am currently at mentally before taking it. Thank you for the well wishes, and regardless of the methods you use to overcome your trauma I hope you’re able to get the help you deserve. I’m glad sharing my experience was able to help you a little bit, you’re incredibly strong for having gotten through that terrible place, and I’m confident that strength will eventually carry you past the ramifications of having experienced it
@GrabnarMyers
@GrabnarMyers 2 жыл бұрын
My best friend went to one of these.. He was forced to become imprisoned because he didnt believe in mormonism like his rich parents did, so he was troubled and therefore two big men woke him up from his bed and said, “we can do this the easy way or the hard way.” He was in prison for years and had to get sent back again cause they convinced his parents he wasnt done and they’d ruin their child by pulling them out early when really they just abused him. The government cant even make sure these facilities arent breaking any laws or are allowed into the facilities because they’re religious facilities. So all these poor kids are being tortured and nobody, even the family is allowed in to see for years. He’s still my best friend to this day. It changed him so much. He was only a kid :/
@dandelion9369
@dandelion9369 Жыл бұрын
💔
@mayp.3233
@mayp.3233 Жыл бұрын
As a 17 year old who’s had mental health problems for half a decade and who’s been in a lot of treatment programs for it, hearing about how these people were treated made me feel physically sick. I’ve experienced a few of the things mentioned here (forced sedation, being strip searched at 13- luckily they let me keep my underwear on when I started crying, isolation in a white windowless room- again, luckily for only a couple hours, and being yelled at and lied to by staff with little to no knowledge on mental illness), and they still impacted me, so I can’t even begin to fathom the lasting emotional trauma that people in “troubled teen” programs have endured. I think the parents and former employees need to take way more responsibility, and that if they aren’t crushed by the guilt of what they put vulnerable children through, then something is seriously wrong with them
@Youcanttouchmyhandle
@Youcanttouchmyhandle Жыл бұрын
Well said. Lying staff is a great point . Staff can also manipulate the system and have control issues, get kicks out of manipulating and playing mind tricks on sedated children/patients
@simisimisimisimi3552
@simisimisimisimi3552 2 ай бұрын
Even prisoners and mental health patients have more rights than this f🤬🤬🤬 place "trouble teen" industry
@burbanpoison2494
@burbanpoison2494 3 жыл бұрын
A mother whose letter begin with "you hate me" and end with "I love you" ....healthy.
@smoot9069
@smoot9069 3 жыл бұрын
That letter is probably what made me watch all 16 minutes because that's the type of language that my mother uses all the time
@jaybek7707
@jaybek7707 2 жыл бұрын
My mom does the same thing. What element of that exactly is the red flag?
@smoot9069
@smoot9069 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaybek7707 they're basically guilty tripping you, claiming you have a certain emotion but they still love you anyways. It's pretty toxic
@Sentient_Blob
@Sentient_Blob 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaybek7707 I’m pretty sure it’s called gaslighting
@jaybek7707
@jaybek7707 2 жыл бұрын
Smoot ahhh ok
@peanutmansemporiumofrandom7472
@peanutmansemporiumofrandom7472 3 жыл бұрын
So it took a Paris Hilton for the state to listen while unknown victims are irrelevant. Good to know
@Loui3626
@Loui3626 3 жыл бұрын
Ppl w/ power and money only listen to other ppl with power and money.
@jd7634
@jd7634 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to America.
@joeandjoe2
@joeandjoe2 3 жыл бұрын
This is the way.
@moderatemexicanamericanpat4904
@moderatemexicanamericanpat4904 3 жыл бұрын
@@jd7634 yea like Mexico is better lol
@moderatemexicanamericanpat4904
@moderatemexicanamericanpat4904 3 жыл бұрын
Theyr all in on it that’s why ,
@jackl8226
@jackl8226 2 ай бұрын
It’s crazy to dismiss any child’s complaint about sexual, mental or physical abuse and call it “a few disgruntled kids”? What???? Not hey, we take these complaints seriously and looked into it with a 3rd party? We put these measures in place to assure this will not happen again. No just the kids are liars! That answer alone should warn all parents to stay away from this guy and anything he touches.
@stephaniepedersen6051
@stephaniepedersen6051 2 ай бұрын
There is a special place in hell for people who do this to children.
@Drageisha
@Drageisha 3 жыл бұрын
Had my parents sent me to one of these places, I’d remember it when choosing their nursing home.
@SgtJoeSmith
@SgtJoeSmith 3 жыл бұрын
My dad did to me I ain't seen or talked to him in years. I don't even know if he's still alive
@ceaseless246
@ceaseless246 3 жыл бұрын
the place that bojack horseman put his mom in seems fitting
@mattmcdermitt6482
@mattmcdermitt6482 3 жыл бұрын
Laughing well played
@oasisflame9789
@oasisflame9789 3 жыл бұрын
Lol fax
@lgay1927
@lgay1927 3 жыл бұрын
@@nc4125 are u still fine man
@spiralpython1989
@spiralpython1989 3 жыл бұрын
I am in my 50s. I was a “troubled teen”, and my parents sent me to similar programs in Australia. I could never understand what I was doing so wrong, and I tried so hard to be what I thought my parents wanted. I still hurt because of my parents’ atrocious parenting. I cut them out of my life. As an adult I was diagnosed as autistic; my ‘behaviours’ were actually pretty typically autistic. I am a parent of three teenagers, who are all very like me. I love them for that. These facilities exist across the world, and they are perpetuating child abuse.
@rachels3823
@rachels3823 3 жыл бұрын
As someone that was in these places in the US, I hope that you're doing better now. I know so many people that came out broken and defeated.
@misterbig9025
@misterbig9025 3 жыл бұрын
Whereabout in oz?
@user-is8lz6fj4l
@user-is8lz6fj4l 3 жыл бұрын
In Indonesia we call it "Pesantren"
@AS-rr9km
@AS-rr9km 3 жыл бұрын
@Ruby Gee They unfortunately can be masked as any type of “health center”. The so-called-myths about psychiatric wards and medical facilities about bad treatment and scary ass practices, are very much real. They always have been, they are brushed under the table when discovered, because funding is top priority for these places. Money the funnels into medical facilities in your local areas should be looked into first. Ask where the money is spent, and the ratio of that on medical supplies used on patients actively, in an annual period. I can guarantee any places numbers don’t match up, not even on the number of people supposed to be there as a patient. When I complete my degree I promise to dedicate work into this. I hope you all stay safe and keep your future kids safe too. There will be a new name for it, by the time our teenagers give us problems. Remember that forever. Same with nursing homes too. Different name, same funding, same game plan. Stay vigilant parents & kids.
@whyhihigh
@whyhihigh 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mkvs68 can you tell how you’ve been treated? (only if you’re comfortable, if not, please don’t!)
@chrisrosenberger7744
@chrisrosenberger7744 Жыл бұрын
I was a “troubled teen” strung out on drugs and I’m so grateful that my parents didn’t put me in one of those programs. Had several friends that ended up going to these type of programs and they haven’t been the same since. They’re still a shell of their former selves and that was over 10 years ago.. thankfully, I ended up in a great rehab program and got clean with the support of my family, great therapists/counselors and my sponsor. A good support system and proper treatment is way more effective than sending kids to some shady, unregulated “therapy” camp. I’m sure some parents really did think these camps were the answer but I know there’s a lot of shitty parents that didn’t wanna do their job as a parent and decided sending the kid away was the best answer. That’s a damn shame
@thekawaiicripple
@thekawaiicripple 3 жыл бұрын
Kids don’t act out for zero reason, it’s usually a cry for help and parents are responsible to address, help, support and validate their pain. But instead of handling the situation they send them away to be broken down because you don’t want to deal with your main responsibility as a parent. I’m so glad people are speaking out
@davidhoran7116
@davidhoran7116 3 жыл бұрын
It’s in the name, acting out. Acting out of pain, generally. But instead we blame this kids.
@cameerkat
@cameerkat 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. A lot of the time it can be treated with a diagnosis, medication, and **ACTUAL** therapy. But these parents don't understand that.
@avery7895
@avery7895 3 жыл бұрын
I went to a residential treatment center in Utah which is much much much different than this program. However, I had a lot of issues & nothing my parents were doing to help me helped. In and out of the hospital, so they sent me there. And parts were awful but in the end, I became a better person and I don’t think anything else would have saved me. I think possibly some parents think it will help and don’t realize that it’s hurtful or don’t realize what they were really doing there.
@thewildcardperson
@thewildcardperson 3 жыл бұрын
You really shouldn't be allowed to do this and if you kid is hurt you as a parents should be exuded for being so stupid and lazy
@snowbrry
@snowbrry 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I have PTSD because of my mother and she wouldn’t get me proper help.. she just would parent me through the police and mental hospitals who only misdiagnosed me. It was torture. I didn’t want to live in rage.. but no one listened to me.
@HIFATS
@HIFATS 3 жыл бұрын
Big up to the former staff who agreed to be interviewed. Being able to recognise and face your wrongdoings is so difficult
@tomatosalad4878
@tomatosalad4878 2 жыл бұрын
Not as difficult as having to go through those programs and live with the repercussions for the rest of their lives, I’ll bet!
@leionarose
@leionarose 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah at least he seemed remorseful
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 жыл бұрын
Hate-Preacher KENT HOVIND would probably agree with such Camps and Places though. He has all the wrong Opinions you can ever imagine. God, his Channel is literally Report-worthy, tbh, and i dont say this Lightly. If you wanna go there and flag him for Hate-Speech or Evolution-Denial or any-whatever-thing, then feel free to.
@DetroitFettyghost
@DetroitFettyghost 2 жыл бұрын
@@loturzelrestaurant People have made reports on him actually. Lots of them! Just look it up!
@wilsonwijaya.design
@wilsonwijaya.design 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomatosalad4878 it's a different kind of pain. Ur told to get kids to do haneous things and psychologically torture them. I've been in both places and I really don't know which is better. Because even as a former coach, ur basically have to live the rest of your life hoping people don't see you as a monster and hoping you don't get to meet your former students. Because you know deep down, deep ducking down in their hearts, they want to kill you if they are given the opportunity to for running their lives. Granted not all will act like that but most will.
@ritamariekelley4077
@ritamariekelley4077 Жыл бұрын
Keep talking, Kids. Keep telling the truth. Keep exposing these predators. Best wishes for maximum healing.
@zaralobner2000
@zaralobner2000 11 ай бұрын
I feel bad for all the people who suffered from the abuse of these evil programs. My mom who is a REAL therapist is doing all she can to get places like this shut down. She also told me that “I could have never sent you to a place like that”. I may have never went to one of these programs and I’m an adult now, but they make me sick just thinking about them. My biggest hope is that all these victims team up and get these horrific places shut down.
@rosiejl2798
@rosiejl2798 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Phil has a lot to answer for with his promotion of these "troubled teen" facilities that have resulted in so many deaths (including from overdose and suicide as a result of trauma), destroyed lives and ruined relationships.
@janaekelis
@janaekelis 3 жыл бұрын
the girl from the famous "cash me outside" meme spoke up. he ignored. thank god she has money to defend her fellow victims. imagine the quiet, poor victims
@SHurd-rc2go
@SHurd-rc2go 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@pluto8404
@pluto8404 3 жыл бұрын
@@janaekelis what about her victims? She tormented and bullied other people. She is no angel.
@boogityhoo7452
@boogityhoo7452 3 жыл бұрын
@@pluto8404 where did you hear about her bullying and tormenting anyone? Did you actually listen to her explain her experience on Dr. Phils show?
@pluto8404
@pluto8404 3 жыл бұрын
@@boogityhoo7452 I heard her yell and threaten to fight people outside.
@EmilyKayTV
@EmilyKayTV 2 жыл бұрын
my parents threatened to “send me away” multiple times for being a “troubled teen” (aka undiagnosed autism and ignored depression). seeing these stories sends a shiver down my spine
@coocoodog1232
@coocoodog1232 2 жыл бұрын
I was raised by my grandma. She regularly threatened to have people break down my bedroom door and kidnap me in the middle of the night to take me away to one of these camps. Even not knowing what would happen if she were to go through with it, the threat of having my live uprooted and put somewhere unfamiliar against my will was very scary and likely caused some level of trauma as well. for me, seeing these stories makes me want to get on my bike and ride until I cant anymore. because that is what I used to do when my grandma threatened me with these camps.
@yunobog7525
@yunobog7525 2 жыл бұрын
Ger diagnosed bruh
@duckyduck6563
@duckyduck6563 2 жыл бұрын
@@coocoodog1232 wtf-
@kingjames4886
@kingjames4886 Жыл бұрын
what kinda pushover just lets themself get kidnapped without defending themself?
@jordanjose6475
@jordanjose6475 Жыл бұрын
"self diagnosed"
@PTSDandEmotionalSupport
@PTSDandEmotionalSupport 3 ай бұрын
I am a survivor of Camp Joshua Scott/Blue Creek Academy. Life has been crippling since I left. I didnt get the worst of it, other kids were abused worse than I was. That place destroyed me, sent me into a 18 year mental health spiral and I ended up homeless and addicted. Life is better now, but these homes do not help.
@naomi5893
@naomi5893 2 жыл бұрын
I struggled when I was a teen, I had depression, anxiety and pretty bad anger issues. I thank God for my parents, I was difficult but they loved me and never gave up. I feel awful for these people. No parent should ever send their own kids to these places. These places shouldn't exist.
@krich451
@krich451 3 жыл бұрын
The parents should be held just as responsible as the facilities. How can you go along with the whole "don't believe your own kid, he's going to manipulate you into thinking we're abusing him" when the first thing they did when showed up at your house was attack your kid right in front of you? You can't claim manipulation at that point, it happened right in front of your face.
@davidhoran7116
@davidhoran7116 3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t care in the first place
@xoxoPilar
@xoxoPilar 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Theo said that he put a smile on and hid the reality. So to her, it looked like everything was going well and there was no need for concern. And if theo did say something, maybe she thought that he was just trying to get out of it. She was scared and helpless. She though these were experts. Most of the parents were probably just as blinded as the kids.
@VS-ic2kv
@VS-ic2kv 3 жыл бұрын
You have to be the worst kind of parent to do this.
@VS-ic2kv
@VS-ic2kv 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoxoPilar She was negligent - its it HER responsibilty to protect her kid - instead she delivered him directly into the hands of abusers.
@dboone7670
@dboone7670 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoxoPilar She watched her son get assaulted and kidnapped by strangers. She said during her interview that she believed it "was good for the entire family". That to me screams she was more concerned about getting a break from dealing with her kid. The fact that she watched two men assault her child and just allowed them to take him kinda backs that up.
@pandamusic8373
@pandamusic8373 3 жыл бұрын
I begged for an interview about SUWS 9 years ago. No one cared. What me and others were put through in that desert in Idaho was beyond comprehension. My center got closed down for child abuse and a 30 million dollar lawsuit. If you want a story vice, come talk to me. I’ve messaged the feds the state authorities before. It’s hell my family didn’t believe me making it all the worse. I was catatonic for months after I got home. I was at the program where the kid escaped - the kid with an article on cracked.
@ivanramirez9928
@ivanramirez9928 3 жыл бұрын
Blow this up
@surieljaguar1267
@surieljaguar1267 3 жыл бұрын
I was also at suws it was fucking hell
@calebballantine3402
@calebballantine3402 3 жыл бұрын
I have read some of the stories online. People are learning the truth. The truth will always come out.
@emmyquartz3009
@emmyquartz3009 3 жыл бұрын
+
@nikstar1313
@nikstar1313 3 жыл бұрын
@@surieljaguar1267 your parents should be ashamed
@mizzysparrots4874
@mizzysparrots4874 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine giving birth to a child YOU decided to have, and then if they aren’t perfect you ship them off to live with abusive strangers to get them out of your way for a while
@ashleygonzalez6958
@ashleygonzalez6958 Жыл бұрын
“I find myself looking forward to the future & all the good things that will come for MYSELF” that must’ve been so hard to read 💔
@zacharykonopa2718
@zacharykonopa2718 3 жыл бұрын
What broke me was how that former worker was mentally tormented by his submission to the system. You can tell his guilt haunts him and having a good-intentioned person bear the weight of this tragic circumstance emphasizes how this can traumatize the workers in these facilities as well. Devastatingly emotional peice.
@spacetimeworm
@spacetimeworm 3 жыл бұрын
So you watched this whole little short documentary, and your concern is with the employees mental health? K... ☝️
@josec1538
@josec1538 3 жыл бұрын
@@spacetimeworm You sound toxic dude and clearly unaware of your response. Everyone can clearly see the trauma the kids experience but most people weren’t expecting how some of the workers actually felt shame, guilt and trauma developed within them as well. They were also manipulated to think they were helping these kids. This person probably cares about everyone not just one side
@spacetimeworm
@spacetimeworm 3 жыл бұрын
@@josec1538 How is my response toxic in anyway?
@spacetimeworm
@spacetimeworm 3 жыл бұрын
@@josec1538 I pointed out that I think, in my opinion, somebody was focused on the wrong thing, and that makes me a toxic person? You must either be the best judge of personality in the whole world, or psychic.
@josec1538
@josec1538 3 жыл бұрын
@@spacetimeworm nah, It’s literally just how you replied to the person who posted. You’re making even further assumptions still. If he is able to see the trauma the worker went through. You think he can’t see the trauma the kids went through too? Do you understand or need further explanation? If toxic offends you than let’s just say you are creating assumptions and ignoring that the person was capable of seeing two sides of trauma. While you’re here lowkey bashing with your condescending “opinion”. I’ll go ahead and say you’re not a toxic person but just your response was.
@KarmaCifer
@KarmaCifer 3 жыл бұрын
The staff member interviewed was at the edge of crying, you can see the regret and pain for participating in that.
@WarguyPlayz
@WarguyPlayz 2 жыл бұрын
@@misschicka2831 Honestly I don't know how the guy is standing next to his mother acting like there wasn't a wedge between the two. If my parents would have sent me through a camp like this I would never want to talk to them again. Brainwashed or not.
@goodname9371
@goodname9371 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr just that amount of pain that you can hear in his voice
@Osirus1156
@Osirus1156 2 жыл бұрын
It honestly sounds like he's lying to me/fake "crying". Like he knows he should be sad about it but doesn't know why.
@cloudoftime
@cloudoftime 2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't convincing to me. If he didn't appear to be upset by it, he would look bad, because he obviously didn't do anything about it. And there were no tears, or watery eyes. It seemed fake.
@cynsational7225
@cynsational7225 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarguyPlayz he seemed to have done a lot of internal work with proper therapy and you can tell there is a wedge, as there was no physical contact and very little eye contact between the two
@just.jessy05
@just.jessy05 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for helping these survivors speak up. I am currently writing a school work about this topic. The videos on social media have reached all around the world. It was a big topic in my english class, in my school, in Germany. This horror needs to end.
@jetbolster
@jetbolster 7 ай бұрын
as someone who was sent away at age 13 and spent 2 years in the troubled teen industry, i can say that i've never heard of a single program where someone wasnt abused in some way, whether that be by other children (allowed to go on by staff) or by staff themselves. everyone has a horror story with these places.
@j_mokusei
@j_mokusei 2 жыл бұрын
If my parents did this to me, they won't be seeing me ever again lmao.
@TheFemSniper
@TheFemSniper 2 жыл бұрын
@@motherhoodsbeauty9279 you're joking right? Most of these kids had serious mental issues by the looks of it. Then again just by your comment you'd probably send your kids to one of these just to "teach them a lesson". These places manipulate both the kids and parents but I guess you're not ready to talk about that.
@armandasstasiunaitis703
@armandasstasiunaitis703 2 жыл бұрын
@@motherhoodsbeauty9279 using the same logic, the kids SHOULD send the parents to a psychiatric ward for elderly people when they get older because they "behave like nut case" by sending their kids off to a place to be abused and molded into something the parents wish for.
@jesterchester8428
@jesterchester8428 2 жыл бұрын
My mom did this to me but got me put in jail lol
@nerdgeekcosplay909
@nerdgeekcosplay909 2 жыл бұрын
@@motherhoodsbeauty9279 have you lost your mind because I will help you find it.
@Flancc
@Flancc 2 жыл бұрын
@@nerdgeekcosplay909 what is she comment? She already delete the comment so idk. Can you type back what she comment only if you remember
@41052
@41052 2 жыл бұрын
I’d never forgive my parents for that. They can beg and cry for me to talk to them and all I would say is cry harder.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 жыл бұрын
Please share such Videos; heck, you may even wanna just drop the URL inside a comment in some Christian Comment-Section and leave. No kidding; maybe that helps 'some'. The 'maybe' is enough chance for me, at least.
@vampirexion
@vampirexion 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, same here. I've blocked out people for less. This is a HUGE offense.
@khulisomonica
@khulisomonica 2 жыл бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 What has Christinity done to you. Parents are responsible for their children's upbringing and protection. Why do liberals seek to enforce their warped views onto others as if it's the absolute truth
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 2 жыл бұрын
@@khulisomonica What dumb questions, starting with the first question. Are you pretend that christianity has no issues whatsoever WHILE UNDER A VIDEO TALKING ABOUT ISSUES WITH THEM? Though it should be mentioned THIS IS JUST 1 OF 1 BILLION VIDEOS. Man, what a cringe-comment did i just read from you??
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 2 жыл бұрын
@@khulisomonica You literally are so naive you ask 'What has Christianity done to you' in a world full of damage done by It. AND you have the audacity to call youre single branch of a single religion "absolute truth". How old are you? Are you actually an indoctrinted little Child? Thats how you sound?
@thomasburke9152
@thomasburke9152 Жыл бұрын
I can relate I was sent to a similar school in 1999 till 2001. It was in New York and this school is also closed.
@LOMROE
@LOMROE Жыл бұрын
I'm in my mid 30s and still vividly remember the juvenile "treatment" programs I went to. The DJJ (Department of Juvenile Justice) ran facilities were the absolute worst.
@Alikeablepeach
@Alikeablepeach 3 жыл бұрын
It bothers me that the blonde mum in this is using words like “our experience” when In reality this facility had all the red flags (openly telling her mail was being read, never being alone with her son), and she had the option to pull her son out. She is not a victim in this her son is. I don’t think she is necessarily a bad person for doing this to her son. Just seems like she isn’t very apologetic about it...
@MissIllLil
@MissIllLil 2 жыл бұрын
I know her " what we went through" annoyed me
@melanieyu894
@melanieyu894 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like she's probably bitter about something... and my best guess is that she's mad she paid all this money for her son to be abused and come out with trauma. I don't think she's a bad person either, but definitely a bad mom.
@MissIllLil
@MissIllLil 2 жыл бұрын
@@melanieyu894 I could see that, what a shame these parents didn't care enough to research what these places actually do to kids in the first place though.
@leionarose
@leionarose 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I feel like her guilt was making her want to feel victimized because she can't handle it.
@Mhmm_sure
@Mhmm_sure 2 жыл бұрын
It’s easy to blame her. I want to a school similar to this. These schools mislead and flat out lie to parents. They will take the two most brain washed kids who have been there the longest and set up a lunch or phone call with the prospective parents to chat about the school. Once they sign the papers, and the school has authority over the child, and they communications are censored it’s extremely tough for a parent to ever understand what is going on. Many parents will never understand. Anyways. Obviously students are most affected psychologically by the law programs. But they would not exist without the VICTIMIZATION of very desperate parents. Parents who have lost control of their kids. It’s so easy to blame parents for bad kids, but at a certain point my parents did not have control over me. So they looked for help, and got scammed.
@SHENDOH
@SHENDOH 3 жыл бұрын
When you become a parent. That's it. You signed up for life. You can't send them away to be better. It's up to YOU!
@morvieous
@morvieous 3 жыл бұрын
Boom...
@Stoney-Jacksman
@Stoney-Jacksman 3 жыл бұрын
There are sadly a lot of parents with personality problems. Mothers with borderline personality is something that is never talked about. Thats why I love the Sopranos so much, for shedding light on that.
@nomad5031
@nomad5031 3 жыл бұрын
@22CARLOCO22 I am assuming you do not have children😫Most of the time, these children are 'sent away' as parents' last ditch effort to help our children. When the government and society tells you that basically any form of discipline that you give your child is abuse, parenting can be very frightening, possibly leading our children to being 'raised by the streets.' Of course, this is not what good parents want. When presented with an opportunity to get help for the child you brought into the world you may be easily convinced that these certain facilities will help you get your child and parental relationship back on track. Most of us want the best for our children. It is not always about passing off responsibility😭
@SkyyPiano
@SkyyPiano 3 жыл бұрын
For life? No, legally your responsibilities are until they are 18. I'm not saying to kick them out the day they turn 18, but once you're a certain age, you should be responsible for yourself and stop relying on your parents so much.
@jfm14
@jfm14 3 жыл бұрын
There's a few issues with this viewpoint. For one, inpatient treatment is life-saving for a lot of kids. A severe eating disorder, for example, cannot and should not be treated by family members. It's not going to work. Same goes for a lot of kids dealing with unaddressed trauma, unmanaged behavioral issues, substance abuse/addiction, etc. And in most families in this society, most parents truly don't have the time to dedicate themselves to healing their child anyway. Most people work at least one full-time job. People go into debt trying to find ways to help their kids, and sending them away is almost always a last resort. They have little to no guidance, they're stressed, and they're vulnerable to being taken in by greedy charlatans. The problem with the situations described in this video is not that the parents sent their kids away or even that they sent them against their will, but that the programs in which they placed their trust were/are not therapeutic in any way and were/are run by criminally unqualified people. Instead of using evidence-based methods, they used "old school", abusive tactics from the moment they showed up to take the kids away.
@scottc4657
@scottc4657 Жыл бұрын
Super weird to see this for me, I was there at Cross Creek at the same time as Theo was - which was a bit of a surprise to see him. I was there from Nov 2005 - Nov 2006 and even 16 years later, I still have some nightmares. I'm glad that y'all are putting some focus on this place specifically, but the whole idea of these programs as a whole. It's something that I'll never forget, so many things ingrained into my mind, super weird. I think of my group often, I think of the things we went through, just crazy.
@aidenmoro7583
@aidenmoro7583 5 ай бұрын
Was almost sent to one of these. I’m grateful that these victims bring awareness to the troubled teen industry because it prevents so many people from also following victim.
@chadjazeera9960
@chadjazeera9960 3 жыл бұрын
My best friend was sent to a similar place when we were teens. He was abused in several different ways and was never the same after returning. He committed suicide 8 years ago. I think about him every day.
@centralstar7168
@centralstar7168 3 жыл бұрын
Where was he sent ?
@glorycloudwatch
@glorycloudwatch 3 жыл бұрын
I am so, so sorry for your loss. That's horrible.
@chadjazeera9960
@chadjazeera9960 3 жыл бұрын
@@centralstar7168 A place in Oregon. It is no longer there. As far as I know, the owner faced litigation for things that happened. The stories he told me were awful.
@chadjazeera9960
@chadjazeera9960 3 жыл бұрын
@@glorycloudwatch it is terrible. I take some comfort in the idea that he is at peace at least. Thank you. 💜
@centralstar7168
@centralstar7168 3 жыл бұрын
@@chadjazeera9960 can you tell me one of the stories
@lyndsaypope3560
@lyndsaypope3560 3 жыл бұрын
I was at cross creek from 94-96. This came on my survivor page 2 mornings ago and it sent me into a world of pain. Seeing the building made me physically ill. Hearing that man got a job from the papers made me cry. I was 14 and use to have to shower in front of those men. They medically abused us all as well. Your parents sign custody of you over to them blindly. I’ll never forget the girls I met there and the bonds we created to survive. I’ll also never forget any of the staffs faces. Ever.
@kenyettaready
@kenyettaready 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you overcame this. And honestly I hope the staff members all suffer a worst fate.
@Mizz.Person
@Mizz.Person 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so, so sorry you had to deal with this. :(
@qpSubZeroqp
@qpSubZeroqp 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience to expose this tragedy of a ”treatment.” It is literally psychological torture
@danielsander9997
@danielsander9997 3 жыл бұрын
I was at casa by the sea and midwest academy they let the owner go free after only 3 months in jail
@Amy_The_unbearded
@Amy_The_unbearded 3 жыл бұрын
I was at Cross Creek from 2000 to 2001 and then sent to high impact for about 8 months in 2001. Everything mentioned is accurate. From the over medication, to showering in front of people (especially if you were on some sort of "watch")
@honestlynate7922
@honestlynate7922 Жыл бұрын
I was in a few of these programs in Rhode island in the 90's. Some of them were seriously terrible places.
@theunknown1637
@theunknown1637 Жыл бұрын
Almost 7 years ago, my step-dad and mother had continuously threatened to send me to the "beyond scared straight" program because I was suicidal and had anxiety, severe depression, and anger issues and "stole" food from them because of my binge-eating habit. Not long after, something happened which got CPS and the cops involved and they concluded that one of my siblings and I were abused to the point where the best course of action was to get us out of there and have us live with my biological father. Since then, everything had vastly improved and I finally got to feel what being cared for and loved was like and finally got the appropriate therapy I needed. Even though I was never officially in one of these programs, I really feel for those who went through it. These teens aren't "troubled" because they're deliberately screwing up, they're "troubled" because their parents can't appropriately care for them and give them the support and resources they need.
@taylorhayes3393
@taylorhayes3393 2 жыл бұрын
Cross Creek “closed” and they opened Horizon. It was still the same program just under a different name. I attended Horizon in January of 2013. The fact that the way they operated the same way 10+ years later is alarming
@atree9284
@atree9284 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t have to answer this, but what was your experience with it? Was your experience the same as these people’s?
@ryangeorge3982
@ryangeorge3982 2 жыл бұрын
I was in Spring Creek in 2002
@angeldroidcs4962
@angeldroidcs4962 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryangeorge3982 May i ask what happened
@ryangeorge3982
@ryangeorge3982 2 жыл бұрын
@@angeldroidcs4962 what happened with what? I was supposed to go to the state juvenile detention and put a plea in at court to go to spring creek. It was the right choice. I finished school and was able to come home and be off paper once i turned 18. In jail i wouldve caught more charges and ended up in prison
@digitazz9879
@digitazz9879 2 жыл бұрын
There are SO many of these. A lot in southern Utah. I haven’t seen one that wasn’t corrupt in some way. I had friends that worked at them that always quit quickly because they were scarred by what was going on themselves. Horrible places designed to take thousands from parents and make sure the kids never got out
@joememphis1571
@joememphis1571 2 жыл бұрын
They need to do a Vice news report about kids who went through the “Scared Straight” programs. I had a friend of mine who went through one of those programs when he was 13 years old and he was physically and sexually assaulted by two correctional officers and six inmates. He has lived with full blown AIDS for over 20 years. He works as a guidance counselor for troubled and abused children in Seattle nowadays.
@jacob.a795
@jacob.a795 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus, that’s horrible for him! I always found that “Scared Straight” programs were ethically undefendable, but this is just another level of fucked up. Perhaps your friend could seek compensation by taking his story to court. I wish your friend the best🙏
@joememphis1571
@joememphis1571 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacob.a795 He was awarded a five figure settlement in court about a decade ago and he used that to travel for three years. He was 84 pounds and 4’ 10” at 14 years old and he’s now more than six feet tall and weighs over 200 pounds.
@dirkferguson7353
@dirkferguson7353 2 жыл бұрын
Not to be pedantic but you can’t live 20 years with “full blown AIDS”. He has HIV
@joememphis1571
@joememphis1571 2 жыл бұрын
@@dirkferguson7353 Yes you can as HIV becomes AIDS. The life expectancy for those with HIV and AIDS is near the national average. He left it untreated for about a decade as he did not have proper treatment due to being itinerant.
@vinyasa748
@vinyasa748 2 жыл бұрын
Wait whattttt
@jadeworkman0128
@jadeworkman0128 Жыл бұрын
I was sent to Casa by the Sea in 1999 and as a 39 year old I realize I still am affected by this place and experience and I get really emotional thinking about what happened to me and others there. I have real trauma and I’m owning it now. I’m done with feeling like what happened there did not happen!! Because it did!!!
@Acecali90
@Acecali90 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad your doing this brother I knew you and was there When you were there but you were an upper level when I got there. Thank you Teddy for doing this and anyone else that is standing up. Cross creek was a horrible place and had caused so much chaos in my life I had to learn how to handle my life alone I still have ptsd every night I love all survivors from these places keep fighting.
@wiseass2149
@wiseass2149 3 жыл бұрын
I never believed in the whole scared straight nonsense. They don't work, they often harden the kids they're supposed to help, and more often than not it's more damaging than nurturing.
@htdtr
@htdtr 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure scared straight programs and troubled teen reform schools are American things, it's such a fucked up idea
@Anonymous_________
@Anonymous_________ 3 жыл бұрын
My mom took me with my older brother. And they yeld at him, not knowing I was the one beating him up. It's a joke.
@Julianna.Domina
@Julianna.Domina 3 жыл бұрын
@@markopugne2092 It's more of a salty knife to plunge into kids' mental health issues
@railroadforest30
@railroadforest30 3 жыл бұрын
Fr
@Swnsasy
@Swnsasy 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the scared straight, that's not what this does.. This is torment, punishment, taking away self esteem, self worth.. Scared straight isn't great but it's not abuse.. The scared straight shows them where you can end up but with that, there isn't a high percentage that it helps at all.. If only 22% changes, that's ridiculous..
@mortimerjames218
@mortimerjames218 3 жыл бұрын
I was 16 & sent away to 1 of these places. It was beyond traumatizing. 3 years later, AFTER I'd already told my mom what happened there, she gets the mail, sighs, & says to me "I'm STILL paying for your time at ___". So am I mom, so am I. 23 later & I'm still paying....
@ctrlaltdank
@ctrlaltdank 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that whenever you start looking for a home for her
@rachels3823
@rachels3823 3 жыл бұрын
Your poor mom, still having to pay for sending you away to be abused. You, on the other hand, are still paying for her decision to send you away. You didn't have a choice. She did. They're not even close to being equal.
@mortimerjames218
@mortimerjames218 3 жыл бұрын
@@rachels3823 😭😭 thank you. I really appreciate that 💜
@rachels3823
@rachels3823 3 жыл бұрын
@@mortimerjames218 I hope that your life has gotten better since then. Just remember that at the end of the day, the only victim was you. Your mother was an accomplice, at best.
@mortimerjames218
@mortimerjames218 3 жыл бұрын
@@rachels3823 thank you, im trying 1 day at a time. If I said the reason why she sent me there, it would make her look so much worse, & I don't want to do that to her. This was 20 years ago & im STILL trying to navigate my trauma & relationship w her. You truly made me cry, just seeing a strangers compassion can make all the difference 💜
@lilnastyy1604
@lilnastyy1604 Жыл бұрын
I’m honestly sometimes grateful my mental health was diagnosed so early in my childhood because when I acted out i was always given leniency and time to figure it out. So many children are labelled “mischievous” or “troubled” at the first instance of misbehaviour at such a young age because of an aged lens. We need to remember children need to be shown and taught even social cues. Reform not ridicule.
@GuruPremierGangStarr
@GuruPremierGangStarr 2 ай бұрын
My friend went to one of these and he was definitely more messed up when he got out. He's doing better now but it's sad to see that it clearly had a lasting negative impact
@JB-pe2yn
@JB-pe2yn 3 жыл бұрын
I'm now grateful we grew up in poverty. My parents didn't have the money to send me to this prison.
@lunix3259
@lunix3259 3 жыл бұрын
That's one way of looking at it
@ultrasound914
@ultrasound914 3 жыл бұрын
True
@AbigailMilamProductions
@AbigailMilamProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I was sent to a “mental rehabilitation” for young teens and preteens after a suicide attempt at 16. I remember one of the members dragging a kid down the hall. I remember one kid was screaming and crying in pain and they put him in an “isolation room” for hours and we could just hear him screaming to death in the background. A girl was administered a sedative and she slept for at least 20 hours. Maybe a full 24 hours, I’m not sure. I was immediately prescribed drugs after talking to a psychiatrist for less than 3 mins. And they even administered the wrong drug to me on “accident”. That’s incredibly dangerous and it made feel dizzy and delusional. It was traumatizing and I was only there for LESS THAN A WEEK. I can’t imagine any longer. Some of those kids were in there for 6-8 months.
@kyahart5537
@kyahart5537 2 жыл бұрын
I was sent to one of these too because my parents didn't like my boyfriend and I had depression. I was stripped searched and put in a ward with kids who were in gangs and were court ordered to be there because they were actually violent and dangerous. I also saw a psychiatrist for maybe 3 minutes like you did, who put me on antipsychotics and diagnosed me with bipolar disorder even though I have never had a manic episode. A manic or hypomanic episode is a requirement for this diagnosis. A teenager being irritable in a crappy home environment does not equal a manic episode. I was also asked if I heard voices because I refused to make eye contact. No, eye contact just makes me feel extremely uncomfortable. I'm now studying to be a psychologist so that I can actually make things better and actually help people with my insight and experience. Lots of healing and hugs to you. May we all find some semblance of peace, happiness, and healing.
@charliec.3518
@charliec.3518 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao i remember sitting in one of those rooms yelling "i wanna go to jail. Take me to jail" over and over because they wouldnt let me out and the only thing theyd say to me was that if i kept talking theyd get the swat team in there to deal with me. Well i wouldve rather gone to prison than there and the next place, they turned a depressed kid into a monster lol
@jmoney6043
@jmoney6043 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like literally hell
@bethanybadillo1762
@bethanybadillo1762 Жыл бұрын
Same thing happened at mine except it was an adult unit with men and women together and the workers would have sex with patients too. So much gang in there who can’t get out of their situation and try to end their life it’s so sad. I stayed almost a month and was threatened constantly by females because the guys they met in there looked at me in a way that disgusted me. I hated it and they didn’t help anyone.
@thecringeistoostrong
@thecringeistoostrong Жыл бұрын
i was sent to one of these facilities too when i was 10 i was counted as a adult and i was with other adults that were above 20 and 30 that would abuse me for 1 and a half year and i always called it a jail because every window even my tiny room with only a bed has like jail like bars on them so you cant escape and i have severe ptsd
@AreYou4Real
@AreYou4Real Жыл бұрын
Thank you for everyone's courage here
@Chimazellious
@Chimazellious Жыл бұрын
I work with troubled teens in a more acute hospital setting. I try as much as possible to stray away from places like this for employment. Dangerous for patients
@brenol2306
@brenol2306 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Paris Hilton for bringing awareness to these types of “schools.” I look at her in a whole knew way after she told her story. 🙏🏽
@DetroitFettyghost
@DetroitFettyghost 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I love Paris Hilton even tho I'm a homeless heroin addicted American citizen. She obviously has a heart even tho she was born into great wealth- she didn't ask for that, I can't be jealous or hate because of it. She's a great person it seems. I wish she'd date better men who don't hurt her tho. She repeats that cycle of abusive men, I hate seeing that. My sister does the same. I choose abusive women. I'm the same. We all deserve better. Sorry to vent- much love 💕
@robertlawler1387
@robertlawler1387 2 жыл бұрын
@@DetroitFettyghost she recently got married she is doing well
@collinkeyser6827
@collinkeyser6827 2 жыл бұрын
Found Out Whenever She Discusses This Around Her Mom, Her Mom Changes The Subject.
@melina1745
@melina1745 2 жыл бұрын
@@DetroitFettyghost I hope you are doing better soon!
@DetroitFettyghost
@DetroitFettyghost 2 жыл бұрын
@@melina1745 Bless you Melina. I'm struggling but trying. Thank you so much for thinking of me 💕
@ReclusiveEagle
@ReclusiveEagle 3 жыл бұрын
First of all wtf. Second of all what kind of Parent sends a sexually abused or a child that has been rap*ed to a troubled teen program???? Actual neglect. They should have had their children taken away from them and be sent to prison wtf.
@Bas-tj3fi
@Bas-tj3fi 3 жыл бұрын
“rap*ed” task failed
@destroymalefeminists
@destroymalefeminists 3 жыл бұрын
third of all i can't believe vice actually believes wearing 2 masks will make you extra safe from the virus lmao
@JakeContr99
@JakeContr99 3 жыл бұрын
@@destroymalefeminists it’s called cdc guidelines and wearing two masks actually help but you probably can’t understand
@AlexRamirez-vz1vj
@AlexRamirez-vz1vj 3 жыл бұрын
@@JakeContr99 masks are great and work.. That is why we defeated the virus and are now living normal lives again... Always listen to what the government tells you because they know what is best for you...
@JakeContr99
@JakeContr99 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexRamirez-vz1vj or actually go to school and learn basic biology so you don’t have to question everything
@jarredb1120
@jarredb1120 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad vice did this episode. I was at camas ranch in Montana which was the program for males about to turn 18 and also it went up to the age of 25 so 18 to 25 I remember having to go to seminars at what was called the facility it was an hour and a half drive to Thompson falls every 6 weeks and we would stay in the upper level cabins while we were there for the few days of the seminar and it was just really horrifying seeing how the miners had to live there they were like prisoners and we would talk to them at night in the cabins and they would tell us how horrible it's been and some kids have been there at that point for years basically it was all kids whose families were mostly middle class to upper middle class and a lot of kids came from wealthy homes as well but the point is these programs were manipulating families out of their money so that they can just hold their kids hostage and use the seminars as a way to disguise this place as helpful nurturing and whatever nonsense they would spew out in their stories they told our parents while we were over there in whatever program whatever country it was a lot of them were closed down by the time I got there in the summer of 2005 I left May 2006 so the experience in Montana was for the most part not too bad only because I was 19 years old or just turned 19 years old so I knew that I could leave anytime but that was the whole thing they manipulated our parents as well so that the only thing we could do is walk down the road with our luggage and we were in the middle of nowhere it was maybe like a two or three days walk to Missoula to the airport or Greyhound station anyway it was very traumatizing seeing these kids and how they had to live I felt their fear I felt their anger I felt their sadness all of their feelings when I went to that facility for those seminars and hearing the stories about Mexico about Jamaica from guys who had been through it and sent to the ranch was just awful I couldn't believe what I was hearing and also how they resolve these other programs in America ivy ridge Cross Creek the list goes on and on I'm glad that these places were closed down and I'm glad that this show was made on vice a respected KZfaq channel exposing this dark side of American greed just horrible and a lot of these people I knew at the ranch became my best friends and I still communicate with a lot of them on Facebook and unfortunately some of them have passed away I'm glad this was made. God bless you all.
@drewr6535
@drewr6535 Жыл бұрын
Incredible seeing all this support from folks who weren't there. It was awful and thank you for your comment
@vitortonera
@vitortonera 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I blame the parents. "Oh they didn't know". Really? You send off your child to some "school" that has to abduct them and you didn't know there was something wrong with it? C'mon now...
@Youcanttouchmyhandle
@Youcanttouchmyhandle Жыл бұрын
Good point
@dandelion9369
@dandelion9369 Жыл бұрын
My point exactly. Thank you !
@unicornlover101.
@unicornlover101. Жыл бұрын
they probably didnt know about everything that wentno there
@faithkeyes
@faithkeyes 8 ай бұрын
It’s a form of grooming towards the parents as well. Many thought this was the break where people could finally help. Not all parents were like that but it is sad.
@joyostlund4447
@joyostlund4447 8 ай бұрын
Yeah and imagine not doing actual fucking research about these kinds of places????? Like, the original website can look and sound good but i would 100% look around for reviews from actual individuals and not some corporation that only wants to make money
@foreverchained9070
@foreverchained9070 3 жыл бұрын
I was sent to 5 abusive facilities throughout my adolescence, one of which was shut down by the FBI 6 months after I ran away on a home visit. I'm 29 now and still suffer from severe ptsd that has destroyed my life completely. Majority of my friends from those places are dead and they are the lucky ones...
@alixtheprofessionalcatherd6850
@alixtheprofessionalcatherd6850 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you can find happiness in the future my friend
@foreverchained9070
@foreverchained9070 3 жыл бұрын
@@alixtheprofessionalcatherd6850 Thank you. I very much hope I do too, along with all the other survivors who had to go thru this and still are. I pray these places get shut down for good and Spring Ridge Academy needs to be next.
@tiernanwearen8096
@tiernanwearen8096 3 жыл бұрын
@@foreverchained9070 they sound like contreation camps
@bootylatuttes1607
@bootylatuttes1607 3 жыл бұрын
Not a day goes by I don’t wake up thinking “the easy way, or the the hard way” those words forever haunt my sleep. It took me 18 months to get out of these facilities. The most horrible time of my life.
@NYPATRIOTBX
@NYPATRIOTBX 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the NYC foster care system in the 80’s and 90’s, I can totally relate, but if I can offer a word of advise, don’t let it define who you are, I’m 39, I have a home, a good woman in my life and it all took more work than someone who had a normal childhood. Keep your head up and don’t let anyone bring you down.
@StarryMidnight
@StarryMidnight Жыл бұрын
That’s horrifying.. those poor kids!! :((
@rykielward8849
@rykielward8849 2 ай бұрын
My goodness 😢 I just watched the Netflix docu series The Program n it brought me here. This is INSANE
@marylynnecollins
@marylynnecollins Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching 🖤
@laurenj432
@laurenj432 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sad, because if parents could have afforded this expensive ‘camp’ they could have also easily afforded therapy for their children and their family instead of shipping their child off to strangers
@FlyingMonkies325
@FlyingMonkies325 Жыл бұрын
That's the thing with their generations they don't think and can't handle when they're scared, then are taught to have complete and utter belief and trust in "authority" over their own children that it must be safe... and us generations are constantly paying for that now, i don't even know if the reason they don't want to acknowledge anything is because they're too scared but all the other ways they act there's no rhyme or reasoning to it, it's just... i don't think any of us know what it is... What are they? What are their generations? Are they even in the same world we're living in? cos it doesn't seem like anyone is home.
@Jenny010132
@Jenny010132 Жыл бұрын
PREACH IT!
@eko9554
@eko9554 Жыл бұрын
Yeah they could easily contact a therapist from a hospital.
@showmeyrkitties2335
@showmeyrkitties2335 Жыл бұрын
There are therapists at these places!
@Jenny010132
@Jenny010132 Жыл бұрын
@@showmeyrkitties2335 Not good ones.
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