TwoSet: At $700, you’re pretty much guaranteed a bad violin. Me: *covering my $600 violin’s ears* Shhh, shhh, it’s ok, I love you, anyway…

I used to work at a music store, and a customer once wanted to return a violin because they broke a string. Direct quote “I knew I shouldn’t have bought a used violin.” My response “you know, the best violins in the world are used violins.” They hung up on me

Ebay keeps 3 years of history on purchases, so he's lying when he says he can't get a "receipt"

You could spend $100K on a $5 violin and have no grounds to sue the seller. The only way she would've stood a chance is if she could prove that there was a difference in what the seller told her what she'd get and what she actually got, like if the seller told her the violin was maple instead of plywood, and even that would require at the very least: 1. Showing the court some kind of documentation (whether it be a receipt, ebay listing, audio recording, or something else) 2. Expert verification that the description doesn't match the product

When I saw the thumbnail for this video, I was kind of shocked- this is actually my (former) violin teacher from middle/high school 🥴 I never thought about it at the time but he had my parents buy a violin and bow (separately, mind you) for about $1k each? Thinking about it now I can't/wouldn't say if it was worth the money, but the way he sold it, he was very insistent that it had a great quality and that's why it was worth the money. But I definitely don't think it would be worth going to court for (least of all on Judge Judy LOL) Probably unrelated, but I thought he was a good teacher otherwise from the prices of the violin/bow ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ Still gave my heart a shock to see him on Judge Judy and TwoSet LMFAO

Even Judge Judy knows to go to the music store🤣. She even knows how to hold the violin better then the fake players

A little tip for Judge Judy. Arbitration is different from an actual court case, which is why her show has a lot of different rules. Yes, the cases have to be "real" in order to make it on the show, but each person receives an appearance fee out of a $5000 prize pool. Any "judgements" of payment she makes are also paid out of that same prize pool. You can tell when something truly serious comes up, because Judy will dismiss the case without prejudice, offer the recording of the show to one of the two parties, and urge them to take the case to real court, or even the authorities if it's a criminal matter.

Brett: $700 for a violin, you’re almost guaranteed a pretty bad violin. *Looks at my $400 violin💀* It’s okay violin-chan, I still love you❤️

One of my trusted sources for violin information is Olaf's channel. His guidelines on what to look for when buying a new instrument is really helpful! P.S.- It's been quite long, Twoset should collab with Olaf maybe on this same topic!

I know there are bad music teachers out there that are only in it for the money. I noticed the stricter they are, the higher the expectations they have of their students, the less they're willing to vary their prices. My music tutor recorded every single of my practice sessions with him and didn't expect me to play anything perfectly, but to show improvement at every lesson. Some of his critiques made me feel like crying as he could tell whenever I skipped practice. Every year, he'd show me recordings of my playing and pointed out my mistakes in some areas and praised my consistent improvement in others. After 4 years of lessons, I offered to pay him more as I can see how huge the difference was over the years, but he flat out refused saying that the students' effort outside of class made the difference and he was merely there offering a consultation on his area of expertise. Mad respect.

If can scam slowly, you can scam quickly

Getting a notification for a TwoSet video whilst watching TwoSet videos is now a regular experience (now that the Pink T debacle is over) and I am not mad about it! 🧡

The defendant had started to explain additional improvements he made to the violin before sending it to the plaintiff, but he got cut off by the judge. He had put different strings on it, at least, and I suspect had done several other things such as perhaps trimming or even replacing the bridge, planing the fingerboard, adjusting the sound post, and other similar modifications that are often needed when buying an eBay violin (speaking from experience). Such modifications are worth the extra money and can vastly improve the playability of such a violin. Fortunately, in this case those details were not necessary to explain to the judge.

The cases are real...if you understand this is a legal process called arbitration. Both sides agree to have the judge settle their dispute which is still cheaper than if they took this to small claims court and fought it out. It's still a reality tv trope where the judge builds up the tension prior to reaching a decision.

I am really lucky to have a nice piano teacher. Offered him a higher pay since it was already quite low but he refused it.

I'd love to hear what the defendant actually did on top. He was starting to explain that he changed the strings. If those are good strings, they are over $100. Changing strings is a service that in itself costs money at a lot of violin stores, let's say $25. Did he also sell a case, a bow, did he rehair the bow? If you deduct this from $700, he made a really small profit...

Damn the judge is scary. My introverted self could never when she said "don't look down while speaking". Fierce interrogation except this is an actual interrogation in an actual court with all eyes on you.

1:13 "$700 for a violin, you are almost guaranteed a bad violin." TwoSet, I love your channel, but I strongly disagree with this statement. Certainly what you get for $700 is not a professional instrument, but that kind of money should get you a very decent student instrument. I paid $500 for my first violin outfit, and my teacher told me that it was a decent quality instrument. I didn't want to pay more than that, because I never played violin before and I wasn't absolutely sure I would stick with it. I didn't want to pay much less, because I don't think that you can get a properly set-up violin for much less. I bought it from a reputable online violin store. It was set up properly, and my teacher thought it had a good warm sound. Really guys, do you expect a beginner to be paying thousands of dollars for their first violin? And 10 months later, I am still practicing with it, and getting better and better. I am now able to play simple tunes, and I look forward to many more years of practice and learning. Yes, I will upgrade it at some point, but for now it is still serving me well.

TwoSetViolin and Judge Judy is the crossover I never knew I needed

Moral of the story: stand up for yourself at the time because if your are in court you are probably too late

7:13 Olaf would call it a VSO, a violin shape object lol And YES 8:35 a video about how to pick a nice violin would be great! And since you guys are back in Australia, it would be great to film again with Olaf!! I miss him in your videos!!

Judge Judy: That's a viola. $700 to the plaintiff, dismissed!

Music and law finally collides?? 😂 Loved this as a law student. Fun fact: in Australia there's something called the Australia Consumer Law, and one of the sections allows a buyer to sue the seller if the seller misled the buyer. If the woman had argued about what misleading statements the seller made and how it influenced her decision to purchase the violin, she might actually have an actual cause of action (though just from the video it seems unlikely). (Real lawyers plz correct me I'm only a student I know nothing lol)

Judge Judy never beats around the bush: baited the facts out of this violin teacher with just a few questions. Judge Judy to the buyer: Hey, everyone's gonna eat, & making a little profit it's not illegal. Take your violin and go home.

ignorance and laziness combined are expensive naivety can be also ignorance

With shipping, new strings, and time spent on properly setting the violin up, i could see $200 being a reasonable markup. He seemed to be going into that when he got cut off, even if he was totally shady about the receipts. But she def should have done due diligence, and probably renting a better violin would have been wiser.

Brett & Eddy: violin the subtitle: violent/violence

That lady should have watched Twoset before buying a violin. She wouldn't have get scammed that easily.

Me a non-musician Law student watching Twoset: FINALLY something I can understand

I got a nice student violin for $110. I was lucky, but it retailed for around $300 - $400 new. When it came time for an upgrade I was ready to spend $2,000. I'm an amateur hobbyist when it comes to the violin. I get a great sound from my violin and my teacher feels it's a good violin. Cost is not as important as sound, condition and playability.

Judge Judy doesn't care about your feelings. She only cares about contracts.

Fun fact: Judge Judy had a reputation for being tough and harsh when she was a Manhattan family court judge (before she became a TV personality; yes, she was an actual lawyer then judge). The harshness here isn’t theatrics - a quick search on KZfaq would return results on how she handled situations in the family court courthouse.

I can confirm from across this computer screen that that was indeed a violin.

Notification received right after I step out of my home. *I immediately rush back inside, take off my shoes and open the video*

I watched this Judge Judy episode just yesterday and immediatly thought about this serious Twoset video Brett and Eddy made about shaddy violin shops recommanded by violin teachers which were selling "overpriced not so good violins" to the trustful students, how it was just all a business between the shops and the teachers !!!!! 😮😮 And it was kind of scammy because the teachers and the violin shops made the students believe the violins were worth way more than they actually did on the market (haha even checked the comments section to look for twosetters around there 😅)

"Im 74 yrs old i dont want to know anything else in my whole life" - top 10 most ignorant statements literally ever

As a law student. In my country, the judge can’t verify the balance of the contract. As she said, a contract is an agreement between at least two people. As long as the people agree, while knowing about all the necessary information, which are often only the price and the object, the contract is valid. The only three ways of getting out of the contract, at least if both parties are capable adults, are : if one contractant deliberately lied or hid important information, if they used violence in order to form the contract, or if one contractant discovers some information they could not have known about the object that would lead them not to buy it ( this doesn’t include the price of the object, as the judge said, it’s normal to try to make as much profit as possible). In this case, the woman could have known of the price easily, had she researched a bit, the man did not lie about the product, and he didn’t force her to buy it. That was a really easy case, which is most likely why it was used in this show. Hard cases are less entertaining to people who don’t have a law background

I wonder what will replace that top corner of the shelf next 👀

7:36 I held my breath just to wait for Eddy's verification of GDAE right after Judge Judy strummed the violin.

Such an INTERESTING video as always. Love you TwoSet and keep making AMAZING videos like this.

The biggest problem the buyer had was putting trust in an instructor who she didn't know alot about. She assumed and trusted that he was an authority on violins. The first red flag was him arguing with her about the price and trying to deter her from shopping around. So he basicly subtlety bullied and gaslit her and it cost her 700 dollars. She lost because she bought a violin. The instructor now has to deal with what ever she will say about him in a review so that people in that area who are looking for an instructor will see her review. He has put his reputation and potentially his ability to get more clients at risk because of this. The lesson here is as a consumer do your homework throughly without letting on your looking to buy. Keeps you from becomming a target for getting scammed. For the instructor treat your clients like how you would want to be treated if you were on the recieving end and you'll protect your reputation as an instructor and continue to be hired as an instructor.

I have never been this earlier for a towsetviolin video! You guys are amazing! And don’t have forget to practice.

"arrest", "guilty" bro its a civil suit 🤣

For a cheap violin it seems to be made out of quite nice wood. 7:12 Flamed back, clear spruce grain on the front. The real VSOs don't look like that.

Oh my god yall are putting out so much videos left and right

re 8:35: Given you both have inspired countless people to learn the violin (myself included!) it would be awesome to have you guys share your tips on choosing a starter/intermediate violin, esp for those who haven't found a trusted teacher/are self learning .

Yay! Someone moved the plant! Eddy is safe now.

I paid $2,000 for my violin (actually it was at the same time brett & Eddy visited Curtis & I purchased down the street). I think I was just excited to get one and was impulsive. My teacher said it was good to buy, but she is an acquaintance of the maker. And at my last lesson I think she forgot what she said before and told me that I’ll need a new violin. …………….. sigh

This is why finding a community is important. So you can share your experiences and someone can tell you if there is something fishy going on.

Three things I think every buyer should do, regardless of the potential purchase, is educate themselves about the product, the sellers, and to take a specialist of the product with you. But very few I sold used pianos to did any of those things. Instead some would depend on my "playing" and opinion of a piano they liked. Fortunately for these purchasers the company I worked for was extremely dependable and guaranteed their instruments.

If she was handed a viola, she probably would have said it's a violin and dismissed the case too.

Me, as a law school graduate and a legit CA licensed attorney, watching this episode is like TwoSetViolin watching those violin TV scenes 😂 first, this is not even a criminal case (Judge Judy works for a small claim court which only handles cases under $25000 (don’t remember the exact number tho)) so eddy’s statement “this guy is not guilty” is not correct 😂; second, the elements that constitute fraudulence are: 1. The party made a false statement (not an opinion) 2. That is material and 3. The other party justifiably relied on the statement. Here, the seller did make a false statement, which is how much money he bought it from eBay, but whether this statement is material and whether the lady’s reliance is justifiable are both debatable, so these should be the problems to solve….whether this is a violin is not even in dispute…😝

I've been waiting for this moment!!!!

She should have just hire an instrument appraiser and get them on court. Well, most probably would been much expensive than the violin she paid in the first place LMAO

I love this stuff, even though I have no expertise whatsoever in this subject area. The guys are great!

I had a crime against me once that needed to go to our county court. I got a letter from Judge Judy saying I could go on her show to settle it!! I did not but the letter confirmed how they find their cases. She’s the best!

Would you guys ever do a personality test to see which great composer you match up with? :) That would be really interesting to see.

Choosing an instrument is so tricky! It took me a year to choose my piano! ... and I was playing for 1.5 year when I choose it (yep, I started looking for it after 6 months of learning. I already knew I wanted an acoustic. Digital pianos are so bland imo). As a beginner, it was a struggle. But I'm happy with my choice, 4 years later. :)

I love my $600 beginner violin, thank you very much. Ugh, the snobbery with you guys sometimes.

What a nice surprise just as i am on a break for practice i fi d the twoset have uploaded a new video

From a legal point of view, specially in some countries, there are over 20+ cases which needs to be heard per day. If they dont get their turn, their cases get reset for a week or even months later. Just imagine how many people gets inconvenienced when you do small talk. All the more if the case which gets reset has an accused in jail. Which is why judges may seem condescending but its their job to keep that order and push on with the next case. A lot of people complain about the smallest things recently (not particular about this case)

5 days in a row! Amazing! 👏

Great content as always 🥰 and great merch apparently too 👀

The way they need it by just taking it and handing it over is so funny

I rarely had seen this show, but what I can say is that I love her no bs attitude. This case it's tricky because he did some shady things and outright lied to her even if he is entlited to make profit of the transaction, but she also could have made her own investigation before making her purchase, ask some opinions or just refuse. I don't know about you, but I always try my best to see the instrument in person and give it a try, then come another day to have enough time to think and research before considering buying one online, with some exceptions. I think it helps to avoid this type of situations.

I plan on buying a better violin next year ( gotta save up) but as a beginner I would LOVE it if you gave your expertise in a video on what to look for & where to go!

“There you have a violin, case closed.” 🤣🤣

I have watched you all for years. I saw and touched and played my very first violin today. I learned twinkle twinkle 😊

“At $700, you’re pretty much guaranteed a bad violin” *vibing with my $55 violin 👁👄👁* “mhm, mhm.”

I kept waiting for another video of twoset.( And also it's been a year since I watched the first video )

twoset moment make my day, love you guys

YES MAKE THAT VIDEO ABOUT HOW TO PICK AN INSTRUMENT PLEASE!!

Your content always makes me and other viewers smile! ❤❤ tysm!

Hey TwoSet! I think it would be really cool if you created a video on what to look for when buying a violin! This would certainly help beginner players like me!

I so thought of you two when I saw this episode of JJ!🤗

I just finished watching their Chinese Grade 1 test and I’m excited to dive into this 😆.

I think it would be really great if you did videos on finding a good music teacher as well as on buying an instrument. I already know how to do both of those things myself, but viewers would definitely pay more attention to your insight rather than the opinion of some rando in the comment section.

You make all musicians day so have a great day, you deserve it!🤗🤗🤗

I definitely want you to do the how to get a good violin video! I intend to start violin lessons later this year

Great videos. I thought it was just my devices glitching and showing a pink T for your channel.

People need to learn how to cut their losses, learn their lesson and move on. I'd be too embarrassed to take legal action against someone for something like this.

TwoSet, I love your channel even though I don’t play a music instrument :)

Oh my gosh I love you guys! You’re intelligent young men! Great glasses! 😂 👏👍

You guys are great! I just subscribed.

Everytime I think Twoset has done everything, they prove me wrong. This was an interesting video! Makes me want to watch that series?Judge Judy? 8:36 ooh! Yes pls! Would love to see how to check for a good violin!

My older sister's ex-boyfriend submitted his case via email to the producers of Judge Judy and it got accepted. She got to go with him to LA for the filming and I think they paid them like $200-$300 for the TV appearance and the network paid for their plane tickets and hotel but not food or transportation. I don't remember all the details of the case but I know it had something to do with an 11-year-old kid stealing his van and crashing it. So yeah it's very real and they just pick cases that are interesting enough to film. HOWEVER because of territorial jurisdiction, Judge Judy can't legally hear the case unless the parties waive their right to be heard in actual court and sign a contract saying that her decision is binding. So it's more like an arbitration or mediation than actual court.

Lol I just love Judge Judy and I love and enjoy watching u guys keep up the good work

I have to say I got back into classical music because of you too. I'm grade 8 right now, going for AT grade! super excited.

I'm really happy with my $700 violin setup. It's a beginner violin, certainly, with a whitner composite tailpiece, but it's properly set up and sounds...well, a lot better than I do. Hopefully in a year or two that will change ;)

"$500 is almost guaranteed to be bad" Haha my violin is a once in a lifetime exception!....... I got a decent one for $400

Judge Judy makes up her own legal rules, from what I've seen.

TwoSet Violins and Judge Judy. It's a perfect morning!

Two set violin and judge Judy? The crossover I never knew I needed

I think with Eddy's high morals and Brett's wit, they'd make good judges for sure.

Please do a video on how to choose a violin!

I had a challenging day, thank you for making me laugh for the first time today ❤️

Love u guys

There is a mistake made in the case. If the man had bought the violin for 500 dollars, and didn't pretend or imply that it was worth more, the man would have done nothing illegal. However the woman says "he told me he paid 700 dollars" and the judge says it doesn't matter. If the teacher bought the violin for 500 dollars, pretended it was bought/worth seven hundred then the student is entitled for her money back and could sue for fraud. (At least that's how it works in Australia)

Love your reactions

Yes... Please do a video on how to choose a violin. Especially for those who may be relatively new to playing. Too often new people will buy based on how it looks.. not how it sounds.. And likely too inexperienced or self conscious to play it well enough to select by sound.. I was lucky that my teacher came with me to the violin shop and I purchased one I loved the sound of.. (she played them with various technical peices to test their range)...