Warhammer: The Old World | Finally Here, Does It Live Up Expectations?

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5 ай бұрын

Warhammer: The Old World is finally here, and in this video I take a look at the releases. Full run down in 30 mins.
Intro: 00:00:22
Launch Boxes: 00:02:12
Books Flick Through: 00:11:34
Close: 00:27:53
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@SkinkChief
@SkinkChief 5 ай бұрын
ToW is incredible, first game down and it feels like Warhammer Fantasy at its absolute best. Can't recommend enough!
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Now this is the kind of thing I like to hear! 🙂
@chiefchurpa5739
@chiefchurpa5739 5 ай бұрын
just sat here painting empire swordsmen waiting for my old world stuff to turn up
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Hoping it’s not too long for you. 🤞
@Neves1789
@Neves1789 5 ай бұрын
Nice comprehenisve overview. I'm still on the fence as my club has deepdived into KoW after End Times and most of us want to keep play that. Not sure if I'm experiencing fomo or real interest at the moment haha! The new and old models coming out do have me genuinly excited, there's plenty of stuff coming that I couldn't afford as a teen but will now be added to my collection. Looking forward to more OW content!
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
I think a cautions ‘wait and see’ approach is a sensible one, even if you just pick up a few models to use in KOW.
@earnestwanderer2471
@earnestwanderer2471 5 ай бұрын
Still waiting for Old World to ship here in the States. Excited to get my hands on the books. Still have my old WHF armies, just need to see what movement trays I’ll need. Not going to rebase anything.
@kevoreilly6557
@kevoreilly6557 5 ай бұрын
I found individual 20-25mm individual sqad to put on trays to just pot in, but not rebasing models It’s the most meaningless infuriating change for me especially when rank frontage is all that matters
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Yep no need to rebase anything, plenty of other options, including playing just as it is. For what it’s worth the GW part of my order hasn’t shipped either, I was lucky my FLGS had their delivery in full and on time.
@TheStafman97
@TheStafman97 5 ай бұрын
I love and appreciate you showcasing an LGS. So often channels focus in hard on GW with their games so I appreciate you showing off a local!
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
It’s a great local, and not just because it has a bar 😂
@badlydrawnhobbyist
@badlydrawnhobbyist 5 ай бұрын
Love seeing your enthusiasm for this game. Really enjoyed following you on this journey and hope it continues 👍🏻
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊, and yes it definitely will.
@OneofInfinity.
@OneofInfinity. 5 ай бұрын
I'm still sceptical, used to play fantasy before that Sigmar abomination was released, glad it happened before I finished updating my DE minis with the new plastics they had released (cold ones being one of them) it saved me some hard earned money.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
I can understand people being sceptical, I think it will be better than some thing though 🤞
@Blutgang
@Blutgang 5 ай бұрын
I still have my original Fantasy Warhammer when it was a single hardcover book. No army lists.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Ah fantastic, that sounds like 3rd edition. The army list book followed after.
@earnestwanderer2471
@earnestwanderer2471 5 ай бұрын
Now I have to inventory the Tomb Kings collection and see if I need any of the make to order models. The likely answer is NO! But here’s hoping.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
😂 Well the new ones will be tempting I’m sure, but the way the game looks if you had an army from before your numbers will likely be good.
@battlehawk1263
@battlehawk1263 5 ай бұрын
Great review, looking to get Brets & TK's, have alot of the other armies.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I think I’ll end up having way too many armies in a few years time.
@DurginPaintForgeMiniatures
@DurginPaintForgeMiniatures 5 ай бұрын
I'm not a pro-player, but I play Dwarfs and as soon as I remember (I started at the end of whfb 5th edition) the new armylist is the best one, can't wait to test it on the battlefield! Rule-wise, ToW looks like the best whfb edition by far.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
I really like the way it looks to be shaping up. Im no pro player either, but many ‘old pros’ seem to agree that it looks to be a great edition.
@nzdarkelf2451
@nzdarkelf2451 5 ай бұрын
Exciting times Stuart. Hopefully my books will arrive tomorrow... I will be making use of some old armies to form a WoC army backed up with some Beastmen allies. I will make use of some AoS models, especially using them for Chosen. And wasn't today a nice surprise with the announcement of Orcs and Goblins being released. it bodes well for all nine factions being out fairly briskly. Then I guess we will see whats in store for the Mercenaries. i'm very optimistic for the future of this game. - Ben.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Very much so Ben, I think the future for the next couple years of this game looks great.
@aaronsomerville2124
@aaronsomerville2124 5 ай бұрын
For the Lady, let’s go!
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
🙂
@robnancekivell2202
@robnancekivell2202 5 ай бұрын
I found this channel when I was looking for videos to paint Warlord epic Napoleonics, then stayed as I'm equally hyped about Old World. The cherry on the cake is that Incom is also my LFGS and I picked up my books from Chip himself Saturday afternoon, small World!
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Ah that’s awesome, definitely a small world. What army are you planning?
@robnancekivell2202
@robnancekivell2202 5 ай бұрын
​@@MiniatureRealms I've hoarded dwarfs since the mid 90s, so I've got about 4-5k of then to get through. Rebasing has actually been a really useful process to tie them all together.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
@robnancekivell2202 Oh wow, I bet you have some amazing models. I very stupidly sold quite a large metal dwarf army towards the end of 8th edition, it’s probably the only hobby stuff I’ve really regretted selling.
@robnancekivell2202
@robnancekivell2202 5 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealms I'll be sure to pop a photo up of the discord.
@lorgor4eva
@lorgor4eva 5 ай бұрын
Im using the treeman & kurnoth Hunters from Aos for my Wood Elves, but I still look forward to the rerelease of wood elves 😊
@kevoreilly6557
@kevoreilly6557 5 ай бұрын
I have my old 3,000 point army which has been supplement with tree lords and two counts as spite revenants (treekin) and spite riders (Warhawk riders) My old army already had missed centaurs (elf upper body and horse) and satyrs (elf upper body and ungor lower bodies) - so not standard anyway :) Pretty army
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
I’d likely use the newer models myself, those AOS sculpts were great.
@SIMONK479
@SIMONK479 5 ай бұрын
I cannot wait for the kislev models haha. Hopefully they will release them
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
I really hope so, the potential there would be amazing.
@Subscriber20671
@Subscriber20671 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video Stu. A 'book club' review of the Lord of the Lance novel would be very cool, even if unable to film one with Jordansorcery..
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I’ll definitely do something with it, but I think Jordan and I will do it if we can fit it in.
@Svengar
@Svengar 5 ай бұрын
I for one am stoked that the Old World has finally come out even if I do need to wait until 10th February for that to literally be correct. The older sculpts as I have mentioned in the past certainly don’t offend me. Would it have been great to get brand new sculpts for everything, of course but not at all feasible. This game is huge and with all the factions involved that could never happen. Just look at AOS and you will see they have still been using the models from Fantasy to basically proxy for their own new game and AOS is one of the two core games. Looking through the army pictures I do think they won’t be showing the new sculpts that are actually being done and I believe each faction will get a handful of new ones, whether that is new characters or if they are really lucky a new unit. Looking forward to all your future content in the coming year. You will be a very busy man I’m sure 😀
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
You make a very good point there about AOS still relying on the old fantasy range, it’s a perfect example of how huge a task it would be to update everything. I’m going to be hugely busy this year, and I love it.
@Svengar
@Svengar 5 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealms It really is a mammoth task to roll out new ranges of miniatures particularly mass produced in expensive plastic moulds. I think a fair number of people just don’t grasp the scale and level of investment required but the evidence is fairly plainly in sight. It isn’t to say that it is wrong to want things but GW is a profit based corporation first before anything else. We will all gladly be along for the ride 😀. No disrespect intended for others but you are my favourite content creator for miniature gaming
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
@Svengar Thank you 😊
@battlestreamsinmiddle-eart8564
@battlestreamsinmiddle-eart8564 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always Stu - really enjoyed this. I think we're coming at the release from a similar place of age, optimism and positivity but you've just got more time and capacity to jump in - I think I'm going to be enjoying the Old World vicariously through your videos! :-) I think I'll pick up the rulebook as and when I see it on a shelf somewhere but there's no rush for me so I'm happy to watch things unfold online for now. It's quite clear that an awful lot of love has gone into this, you can see from the layout, production design etc. even the differences in the logos that you highlight - it's quite clear that it's not a cash-grab - I think the team has done fabulously well to relaunch such a massive game all things considered. Your point about the models shown in the photos compared to the models shown in the army lists is a really interesting one - as in the lack of Night Goblins in the Orc and Goblins photos etc. It really does feel like there's been a bit of dick swinging in the studio along the lines of "You can't show our models in your books" etc. You mentioned that the Wood Elves have the old Treeman rather than the new ones but did you notice that the picture also doesn't have any Dryads despite the fact that they're such a key/Core element of the army? It makes me think that the Wood Elf battalion won't have any either as and when it's released and it'll just be made up of Glade Guard/Glad Riders etc. Much in the way the new Orc battalion doesn't have the night goblins etc. - It's a really confusing move to allow those units in the army lists and game but not allow them in the photos and marketing etc. Funny Old World - HA! Anyway, keep up the great work, looking forward to more :-) Damian
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Damian 😊 Yep it’s a real odd mix of what is coming over from AOS and what appears to have been ‘claimed’ (much of it came out in fantasy anyway). Good spot on the Dryads, they’re definitely in the TOW army list. In the small print on the O&G article they do say Night Goblins will be back as well, but I bet they will be old ones, not the new AOS ones. I guess they know people will spend money on the AOS ranges, but won’t go as far as to show them. It’s interesting that the Marauder Giant is back as a MTO, so they can show an old fantasy kit, knowing full well as soon as the MTO is over the only option is to use the plastic one. At some point later this year we will have to meet up at WHW for a game, you can dust off those wood elves (and I should know the rules well enough by then).
@henriksorensen82
@henriksorensen82 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully I'll get my Bretonnia box tomorrow, it's probably the first time I've looked forward to Monday when it's a weekend. But have bought the core rulebook and Forces of Fantasy digitally, so have read a bit in those two. Probably the only one who is overjoyed that I can now have pigeons on my Empire Steam Tanks. The future plan is to finish painting my 4500 point Empire army and start painting my 2000 point Bretonnia army.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
I hope your stuff turns up on Monday for you, but yes very odd looking forward to a Monday, I don’t think I’ve ever wanted Christmas to pass so quickly and get to January 😂. I’m going to grab the digital copies as well I think, I like working from my iPad for games, and always being able to check a rule easily.
@henriksorensen82
@henriksorensen82 5 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealms Yes, I have bought a table just to have rulebooks and army lists on it. In my gaming group, we started playing Necromunda last fall and it's very convenient to be able to make changes during the game, of course you can do it on the phone, but we're all 40+ so a bigger screen helps 😜
@dagothhyde7297
@dagothhyde7297 5 ай бұрын
The PDF is free lmao you got gyped
@henriksorensen82
@henriksorensen82 5 ай бұрын
@@dagothhyde7297 As far as I know, only the Legacy factions (Lizardmen, Dark Elves, Skaven, Ogre Kingdoms, Vampire Counts Daemons of Chaos and Chaos Dwarfs) that are not part of official TOW have free PDFs. The books that I have bought are the Core rule book, and Warhammer: the Old World - Forces of Fantasy which is the book that contains the official factions: Dwarfen Mountain Holds, Empire of Man, Kingdom of Bretonnia, Wood Elf Realms and High Elf Realms. Then there's also Warhammer: The Old World - Ravening Hordes which takes up the other half of official armies: Orc and Goblin Tribes, Warriors of Chaos, Beastmen Brayherds and Tomb Kings of Khemri, and I can't see them releasing official books for free in digital form, because then they wouldn't be able to sell the physical books.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
😂 Same here
@MrBlackear
@MrBlackear 5 ай бұрын
Picked up the three main books from the local GW. All my usual online stores sold out or warning they may not be able to get stuff. Good sized que outside lovely GW, by the time I'd paid for my books, all the stock they had were in peoples hands. Think it's going to go well.😳
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
You should have seen the queues inside and out at Warhammer World 😳. I’ve got a video out tomorrow that covers that a bit.
@MrBlackear
@MrBlackear 5 ай бұрын
@MiniatureRealms Had seen a few bits from people there, mutual aquintances and such. Does look like the hype is real.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Yep I’d say it is, it’s very much back as a game. Will be very interesting to see where we are in a year.
@skinniestfatman5641
@skinniestfatman5641 5 ай бұрын
Looking forward in getting the books but unfortunately i have to wait for weeks as my local store here in Prague have sold out 😢😢
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
☹️ Frustrating times for quite a few people right now, I’m really looking forward to a couple of months down the line when everyone has them. You live in a beautiful city, I’ve only visited once but would love to return one day.
@skinniestfatman5641
@skinniestfatman5641 5 ай бұрын
@MiniatureRealms if you do bring your army lol, glad I immigrated here got a better life here lol
@danroberts007
@danroberts007 5 ай бұрын
I’m in the blizzard-bedraggled US; none of us have our Old World stuff yet, so I appreciate the look inside the covers of those books. I played WFB during 6th and had so much fun; the nostalgia is really strong for me right now. To be honest, I quite like Kings of War and would be just as happy playing that, but I am all in for the Old World for now. Back before the End Times started a little birdy told me what was in store for the future of the game, so I snapped up High Elves and Skaven like they were going out of style (because apparently they were!) Since then, I’ve also occasionally picked up some Dwarf units, so I find myself with a small army of those as well. My main 6th ed. faction is Orcs & Goblins and looking at all the things getting rereleased just for that faction??? Oh man, my wallet is in trouble. Doesn’t matter if I play Old World, KoW, 6th ed. or 9th Age, all these units coming back in stock is both a godsend and a threat on my marriage. Lol. Subbed! :-)
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
😂 The amount of toys arriving in parcels can definitely bring its own peril. Sounds like you’ve got some decent armies on the go there, regardless of how it plays out in the end. I hope you get your stuff soon, I’m looking forward to when it’s all settled down and everyone has their orders and there’s been a decent restock as well. For what it’s worth I don’t think anyone has their GW orders over here yet, I’ve only got mine because I picked it up. The cards and minis I ordered direct from GW haven’t been dispatched yet.
@danroberts007
@danroberts007 5 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealmssomehow I’d got the impression that folks in the UK received their preorders on the day of release but that would be quite the logistical accomplishment on GW’s part, so I’m not too surprised that’s not the case. Yes… somehow I’ve gone from owning one army to three and a half over the years. If I were chained to a painting table for the next few years I might get half of them painted. Lol. 😂 Looking forward to fun in the Old World in 2024. :-)
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
@danroberts007 That used to be the aim, but it’s been a while since they shipped the day before release (or at least I don’t manage it often now).
@aldaron1021
@aldaron1021 5 ай бұрын
I grew up reading Fantasy Books and a few years back I was looking to get into any Warhammer World but simply put I didn't find a single AoS army that I was like "YES, I want to start collecting and painting this army" and being a fantasy fan my brain cannot comprehend the word "Space" and orcs, elves or dwarves behind it so 40k was not for me as well. Anyway I was super excited about Old World because it is a classic fantasy setting that I am quite fond of. I believe there might be more people like me out there - those that don't have old miniatures but want to get into the hobby and when the two starter boxes were released it seemed like this product is not at all geared towards new people so you feel left out. I think it is quite obvious that they will release the armies in big boxes like "start collecting" box or the "combat patrol" box in 40k but as a new fan ( never bought a single GW mini) I am very much looking forward to getting the Orcs and Goblins box but if all there is in the box are old 20+ years old models GW will lose me as a client. It seems counter intuitive - you create such hype for the game, people expect Cities of Sigmar level of models and they get old and ugly models and the only reason behind this seems to milk nostalgia or so that older fans of the game can combine their older and new models together and have more coherent army?!? Maybe, I don't know. I believe the older fans of the game would also not mind new models. If all 9 armies are released with older models I think the discontent will be quite big and the game will flop which makes me very sad. I still have hope that at some point we might see Dark Elves and Chaos Dwarves. Anyway I am very much interested in the opinion of people who have the old models on the decisions of GW regarding Old World. Also I want to be clear that I have nothing against the older fans, I know nostalgia ( I am 38 myself) and I am sorry if this is unclear in my comment.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
I totally understand your point of view, and as a release it definitely doesn’t cover for new players very well. I think most old fantasy players would have loved entirely new ranges, the old ones are coming back because that’s the only tangible way the business structure can see as a way of doing this. Fantasy grew over 30 years, the range was huge, and to replace that with new for even half the factions would just not be possible to do as a launch, so it’s kind of ‘this way or no way’. GW could afford it, but it would make no sense to do so, 40K and AOS rule, and I don’t think the shareholders or investors would like the kind of output that would be needed to re-launch this in the way people would like. It is sad though, but there are sound business reasons for it, it just means that concessions are made. I talk about this a bit in a recent video “FAQs & Common complaints”.
@aldaron1021
@aldaron1021 5 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealms Thanks for the reply! I understand the logic behind it and this is why I am worried. I wonder when all the factions are released will GW move the story forward by introducing new books and does this mean that they will introduce new models? Will they put the effort in this or will it be a one time hit and they will continue introducing older models in future box releases as well. Maybe this decision hasn't been made yet and they are looking to check if The Old World will be successful and will it affect negatively AoS sales. I checked the Orc and Goblin tribes box which I was most excited about and the models seem fine and they have promised more made to order models and other goodies than I think in the first two boxes so I guess they are learning and listening to the community ( maybe). But for now I think I will wait to see how things pan out because getting into The Old World will be my fist ever GW experience and I want to get involved in a game that I can see it has a future and I can play it with my son who will be 7 this year and probably with my wife ( The mini painter in the family :)) and his younger sister one day. He grew up watching his mother paint miniatures and his dad make terrain for his DM-ing. Anyway, I checked the other video you suggested and it was very informative. I believe this channel has one of the best Old World Content and it is clear that you are a big fan of the game when you talk about it. Needless to say I have already subscribed and I am looking forward to checking out your videos in the future.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
I’m very confident that they’re in this for the long haul, the amount of work that has gone into those 5 books for far, with another 7 arcane journals alone on the way. Let alone the legacy army pdf army lists (I’ve just downloaded them and they range from 22-36 pages each). I’ve also spoken to some of the team involved, they’re very excited and have lots of plans. Now could GW ditch this after a few years? Of course, but I really don’t see that happening. There’s a market for this kind of game, and the kind of gamer it attracts, they’ve seen success with Horus Heresy games, Blood Bowl and Necromunda. There’s obviously some crossover with 40K and AOS players, but much of the market is different. They won’t make as much money, but they will make enough, and that’s perfect for the Specialist Games Department and the kind of games they produce. I think they will have plans for the game to grow beyond the 9 factions as well. They need to get them all out within a reasonable period, 12-18 months maybe? But then I think we will see more as well, probably something new, and then hopefully in the future the return of other old ones. I’m very hopeful.
@aldaron1021
@aldaron1021 5 ай бұрын
I hope you are right, it seems so but it might be too early to make any assumptions at least for me. It is a good thing they anounced the 3rd army relatively quickly which means maybe within the next year all 9 will be out or even sooner. Lets just say that I didn't find any of the AoS armies interesting ( that is a personal preference, nothing wrong with the game, I was more interested in Necromunda and Horus Heresy and most definitely The Old World) and I will absolutely collect Chaos Dwarves and Dark Elves for sure along with the orcs and for an absolute newbie that says something. I hope there are other players who want the left out factions to return at some point in the future, that will be great. @@MiniatureRealms
@Firstchaplainscullion
@Firstchaplainscullion 5 ай бұрын
The game itself looks great, it’s just another waiting game for the factions now 😂 got a great game that a huge pool of the fan base can’t play
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
I know, really tricky isn’t it. There was no way they could release all in one go sadly, but it does create a problem.
@Chris-ow2zt
@Chris-ow2zt 5 ай бұрын
i want empire when is it coming.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Me too, Empire and Dwarfs are on my list.
@Chris-ow2zt
@Chris-ow2zt 5 ай бұрын
thx for the reply i just think theres more choice of units and the uniforms are based on 1600 renaissance landsknecht mercenaries which are great to paint.@@MiniatureRealms
@Blech319
@Blech319 5 ай бұрын
​@@Chris-ow2ztWarlord Games' Landdknechts starter army for Pike and Shotte rules may suffice in the meantime.
@James__V
@James__V 5 ай бұрын
Your excitement Stu is tangible! I’m waiting for my delivery from WH to arrive and can’t wait. This was always my game. I’ll be doing Bretonnians and High Elves myself. 😊
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
@James__V I am pretty excited yes 😅
@vogless
@vogless 5 ай бұрын
They got the title wrong on the novel.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Sorry did I read it out wrong?
@NisGaarde
@NisGaarde 5 ай бұрын
Is that the audio from the RØDE?
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
Nope, not the ‘unboxing’ bit anyway, the sound failed and I had to use the audio from the main camera (very frustrating).
@NisGaarde
@NisGaarde 5 ай бұрын
@@MiniatureRealmsAh okay, I thought something was off. I'm considering one myself, so that's why it caught my attention
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
@NisGaarde Yep they’re good, it was user error. I have a Rodecaster and Podmic that I use for podcasts and most voiceover stuff, id used the lapel mics for a video the other day and had to out the gain up to get a decent output for the desk, but forgot to turn them back down, so that audio was what I had to discard.
@SteveSmith-kx9gw
@SteveSmith-kx9gw 5 ай бұрын
Speak for yourself, I’m very highly trained! Provided people wanna talk about Blood Bowl 😂
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
😂
@Emanon...
@Emanon... 5 ай бұрын
The pricing is exorbitant. This is clearly geared towards the nostalgia crew, not to attract new players.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
It’s very GW priced, it not more than their other games. But yes I agree, very much geared towards nostalgia and returning old fantasy players.
@FALLINGJIGSAW
@FALLINGJIGSAW 5 ай бұрын
I have to be honest. If ToW is just going to be a nostalgia trip / cash grab for old players, is not getting updated models and even looses whole factions to AoS. Eventually Fantasy will die (again). People need to stand up to GW’s BS! I couldn’t care less for AoS lore. I’ve tried. 😢
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
The best way to ‘stand up’ is to make the game what we want it to be as a community, and I think that will happen, it will find its place.
@suburbiapheonix7960
@suburbiapheonix7960 5 ай бұрын
Top price for old kit which has been released in a very limited way showing GW are really hoping to kill it out of the gate. They clearly are serious about price gouging this and less than serious about any future. This is a cash grab and not any serious intent to put Old world on the market. GW have lost my custom on this.
@martinjrgensen8234
@martinjrgensen8234 5 ай бұрын
Inflation is a thing you know. And some kits, like the Tomb Guard are actually cheaper than back in the day.
@_Joxar_
@_Joxar_ 5 ай бұрын
I agree apparently they stated they see this as just a side project they don’t really care about at all, laughing their way to the bank. They want to copyright everything like AOS with their stupid names like AELF and Orruk etc. selling old ass cobweb stock for full price it’s crazy
@suburbiapheonix7960
@suburbiapheonix7960 5 ай бұрын
@@martinjrgensen8234 You think that Tomb Guard at almost £50 for 20 figures is cheaper now than it was 15 years ago? Even adding for inflation that is an outright price gouge. The additional support units are running in at £40 for 3 figures. So a direct replacement for the one unit you consider cheap coulld be from the Kings of war range where the direct equivlent is only £25. Half of GW's grab for cash.
@suburbiapheonix7960
@suburbiapheonix7960 5 ай бұрын
@@_Joxar_ I did put an order in for some of the serpent types but it appears that in Element games usual fashion of not admitting to having any stock to sell I have paid my money for something appearing 'whenever'. Which I have come to hate. FOMO in action I how feel and after Martins post here a large wake up call. I will be cancelling that order tomorrow and getting my cash back. Considering Old World is supposed to be rank and file the price is way to high. Always felt this about LotR. GW lost a customer today. I will look to historicals and Kings of War for rank and file gaming.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms 5 ай бұрын
That’s fair enough, I disagree mostly, but we all have our own preferences and reasons. Appreciate your opinion on it.
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