Waterborne Surf Adapter Set-Up Tips from the Founder of Waterborne

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In this video, ‪@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS‬ founder Pat Dumas joins me to discuss set-up tips on the Waterborne Surf Adapter.
VIDEO TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction
01:06 First Guideline for Setting Up a Waterborne
02:20 How the Surf & Rail Adapter Change Your Ride
03:36 Tips for Creating Your Ideal Waterborne Set-Up
05:28 TKPs versus RKPs
06:57 Truck Width
07:43 How Creative Can You Get with the Waterborne?
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@Jsnip3 2 жыл бұрын

when surf skating blows up your going to be at the forefront. Your research is so valuable for anyone looking to get into this sport

@greghwalker 2 жыл бұрын

I have three Santa Cruz boards with Waterborne adapters. I will never go back to skating without one. Thanks for the great vids.

@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS 2 жыл бұрын

Stoked that you love it! Oldschool shapes are >

@djweeks_maui Жыл бұрын

Do you use the back rail one too or just the front?

@sageoz9886 Жыл бұрын

@@djweeks_mauithe back rail is so important. It allows the front to work so much easier and also helps the rear end stay planted on the ground. Most people just have heavy bushings in the rear, clamp them down hard and call it a day. This unfortunately while keeping the board a bit more stable at high speeds kills the agility and means the outer rear wheel lifts up in hard turns, so the rear slides out from grip loss. There’s a quick vid I’ve done about why I reverse my rear trucks which improves handling substantially and is only possible thanks to this system

@rickydasler6354 2 жыл бұрын

Really helpful tips with these Waterborne vids guys. I have an adaptor/rail kit waiting for an Alva deck so good timing for me watching these. All power to Pat and the Waterborne team.

@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS 2 жыл бұрын

right back at ya! Let us know if we can help you with the setup!

@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS 2 жыл бұрын

@@Zzzz-hu2fp the Rail Adapter lets your rear truck lean as hard from rail to rail as the front truck and can lean with the surf adapter. That means that all four wheels stay planted to the ground when you’re carving really hard, so you have more grip and can carry more speed through turns.

@sageoz9886 Жыл бұрын

My favorite tip for waterborne system users: Reverse your rear trucks. Flip them “backwards” around so they face the same as the front. The adapters still give you plenty of front end agility but now you’ll ALSO have HUGE stability at high speed, anti-wobble self-correction, more grip while turning and carving, a more realistic surfboard feel and just better overall handling. I’ve been doing this for many years on many boards both analog and electric and over many, many miles with impressive results.

@jmeib 6 ай бұрын

Flip a regular tkp truck backwards? With or without the rail adapter?

@sageoz9886 6 ай бұрын

@@jmeib with! The rear adapter allows the front to work much more effectively and helps keep both rear wheels even while turning, otherwise the outer wheel would start to lift and half your traction. By having the rears turn with the front it’ll behave more like an AWS sports car, flattening out the rear end. In a traditional set up the rears turn against the front, like a Monster truck: great for low speed maximum turning circle but horrible for stability. By adding surf adapters we create plenty of front end maneuvering so that the rear end isn’t needed for turning and can be instead dedicated to stability.

@jmeib 6 ай бұрын

@@sageoz9886 interesting. I'm going to go try that right now.

@sageoz9886 6 ай бұрын

@@jmeib let me know what you think. It may take a bit to get used to. I usually set my rear rails with medium rate and the rear truck with stiff bushings to keep the turning rate down while still allowing lots of lean. There’s a quick video on my channel where I talk about it

@ironkb57 29 күн бұрын

Would this also work with rkp?

@nitsan Жыл бұрын

Nice thanks. I might have to dig out my old skateboard trucks for some extra hard turning.

@magnetmountain33 Жыл бұрын

This is brilliant stuff thank you so much for making this video is so useful it’s in my opinion one of your best

@Sarah-ev1gj 2 жыл бұрын

I love my Waterborne adapter on my Landyachtz Drop Cat 38, the wheels make it great for pumping around on paved trails.

@Rideables 2 жыл бұрын

Another amazing video! Glad to see you both!

@dawidjuros474 Жыл бұрын

Love Your work, both of You

@dawidjuros474 Жыл бұрын

Today is The Day of The Resurection to My Skating Soul. I have choosed The Waterborn adapter for My skateboarding. And I wanna thank You for Your videos.

@jeffreyweinstock656 2 жыл бұрын

uguys answered my question about truck width, Thx!!!

@igortikho 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍Great video, as always!

@neighbor9672 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic!

@krishnansrinivasan830 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome :)

@occamsrazor3128 2 жыл бұрын

Loving the content bro I love this company! Oh and BTW first! Hahaha

@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS 2 жыл бұрын

YEW!

@lil-dexxy6475 2 жыл бұрын

The best setup for trucks that ive found for my longboard is an RKP truck in the back, and a penny truck in the front! It makes it so fucking smooth and buttery!

@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS 2 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna have to try that!

@lil-dexxy6475 2 жыл бұрын

@@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS You have to try it!!! It seriously makes it feel like the there is only one wheel in the front, making it so smooth to swing left and right. I tried out every truck i own and this is what i settled on.

@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS 2 жыл бұрын

@@lil-dexxy6475 Thank you for your R&D contribution! hahaah youre the man

@lil-dexxy6475 2 жыл бұрын

@@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS you guys are so welcome! I'm so happy to be able to help give you guys ideas! Seriously means the world to me. Love what you guys do, my WaterBorne is the best piece of skate tech I own. Keep up the great work guys!! ❤️

@Readstarter 2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I have a 48-inch longboard and I have a narrower truck on the front than on the rear and it carves so smooth. They’d never sell them that way. But it’s better on a longboard anyway. I haven’t tried this set up on a cruiser length board - yet!

@jcallaghan808 7 ай бұрын

I grew up on a carve stik mainly. Super bummed they dont exist anymore. I used to throw 360 power slides and hang heel with that set up. How well does this truck function going backward and in a drop deck. The lower the deck is the more comfortable i feel so just curious your feed back.

@ErnieJ89 19 күн бұрын

Do these adjustments work with the Penny Highline?

@Ch12iSx727 3 ай бұрын

Will double kingpin work on these?

@marcusevonblade2804 2 жыл бұрын

Hold up I live in Costa Mesa and never knew they were based here. PS is it possible you can make a video of how efficient it is to use 80mm wheels in the back and standard size wheels in the front, like does it make pumping easier?

@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS 2 жыл бұрын

generally if your nose is lower to the ground than your tail, it feels a little strange. An interesting concept since the drive from pumping is going to come from the rear.

@SurfskateLove Жыл бұрын

Yeah that would feel weird. I wouldn't do that.

@dogbagel5255 2 жыл бұрын

How could one make that super long deck 😂 I want to make one so bad but not sure how I would make it sturdy

@ogokforever Жыл бұрын

What about drop deck, is it possible to instal the adapter?

@SurfskateLove Жыл бұрын

Yep! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLp8a6SjxpzTo58.html

@robertmcmahon4549 2 ай бұрын

I love my adapter on my street skateboard,pumps and carves awesome.i havnt got the rear adapter,does it make pumping easier,faster?

@SurfskateLove 2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say that. It makes carving tighter and grippier because it keeps your back wheels on the ground through carves.

@robertmcmahon4549 2 ай бұрын

@SurfskateLove thanks for the reply,il have to get one and try it out👍

@19COD1 2 жыл бұрын

Should i put a waterborne on my mini eskate would it absorb more impact of rocks and stuff like that ?

@SurfskateLove 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say that. It will actually make it a bit more unstable when you hit rocks and bumps, because the front truck will move a lot more than what you're used to.

@ColindeSilva 2 жыл бұрын

Would like some advice on how to set this up on a kids board (as kids surfskates are a bit thin on the ground). My 7yr old can just about pump on my YOW, but it is really too wide for his feet. Putting the waterborne on his normal slatyeboard made it too squirly.

@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS 2 жыл бұрын

if it's too squirly, it might be the result of trucks that are too loose, or a wheelbase that is too short. I'd start by tightening the trucks!

@ColindeSilva 2 жыл бұрын

@@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS I think it is more the width of the standard skateboard, and that of the trucks. Do you have any recommended kids setups? Is there a minimum width which works well?

@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS 2 жыл бұрын

@@ColindeSilva I guess it depends on how old the kid is and how big their feet are. The deck should be about as wide (+/- 1 inch) as their shoes are long. As a general rule

@ColindeSilva 2 жыл бұрын

@@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS thanks - kid is 8/30kg. But I meant more on the truck width (which drags board width along, I realise). I just got him a standard board, and tried to use a waterborne adapter on it. But the trucks are too narrow, making it squirly to surfskate. Maybe a video on this dedicated to kids (from surfskate love and you guys :D)

@koejoe 2 жыл бұрын

Any Canadian sellers ? Can’t wait to get one once it comes down in price for Canadians.

@threeohm 2 жыл бұрын

Surf Ontario sells them and will ship. They aren't going to come down in price though.

@koejoe 2 жыл бұрын

@@threeohm thank you 🙏

@farronmain6718 2 жыл бұрын

can i use waterborn adapters if i have gullwing trucks on my longboard

@SurfskateLove 2 жыл бұрын

That would be way too much. You want stiffer trucks with the waterborne.

@WATERBORNESKATEBOARDS 2 жыл бұрын

We've seen it done on cruisers and electric boards! People put the Adapters on Electric boards that have gullwing trucks like the evolve GTX and GTR and they have excellent handling, even at +20mph. On a cruiser however, the double kingpin trucks + Adapters make the board super tall. But fortunately you can remove the middle piece of a gullwing and make it a regular TKP truck, then the height isn't so much of an issue.