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Michelle After Dark

Michelle After Dark

3 жыл бұрын

Discussion of a letter from The Murders of Christopher Watts by Cheryln Cadle
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@juanitarichards1074
@juanitarichards1074 3 жыл бұрын
He was disregarding Shannan long before July.... he said he hated the trip to San Diego as his affair with NK had just begun and he couldn't wait to get back to see her.
@helenaterschegget8791
@helenaterschegget8791 Ай бұрын
A psychopath sees people like clothes as long as they work for him it’s fine,,, if people view him a certain way because of it.. even better. He loved people thought he was a family man and trustworthy , until he saw that new beautiful shirt which he thought would give him much more … and you discard your old .. that the extent of Chris feelings. He couldn’t have a new life without killing his old, as they would always be in the way and worse it would make HIM look bad, the Shannan took the kids out of revenge because I wanted a divorce … makes him look good and her bad. And why he always says something bad.. not outright but it’s negative
@julieaucoin9980
@julieaucoin9980 3 жыл бұрын
I thought she changed her name and moved. This woman has no moral compass. Having an affair with a married man with 2 children. And was in Shamnans house a couple of times? In their bedroom, being nosy? How dare she infiltrate Shamnans home and space.
@rachaelnelson4976
@rachaelnelson4976 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@cabinlifeatedensprings1710
@cabinlifeatedensprings1710 3 жыл бұрын
It’s criminal! And not that many years ago it was considered criminal to have an affair. If you divorced your husband because of an affair you got alimony for life. The husband had to pay. Now it’s just oh well he’s moved on. And just tough luck to the wife. Or worse. My mother divorced my father in 1972 and she got alimony for life or until she remarried. She did remarry after I was grown. And when my X decided he wanted to live a single life I got alimony for 1 year. That was 20 years ago. I’m sure now wives who give their all to their family gets nothing when hubby decides to date his secretary. Or in my case it was his partner. He was a police lieutenant. That alimony hurt him, he had to work none stop that year to keep up with alimony an child support. I doubt his partner was worth it. Now that our baby is almost finished with college he has the upmost respect for me. So I wonder if Cw is realizing that Shannan was a total lady. Gorgeous inside an out. And certainly didn’t deserve to be cheated on, I know Cw is a mental case but I Hope he sees how wrong he was. So many good men would love to have a wife like shanann. And those beautiful precious children. How could anyone do that? If he decided he wanted out he should have left. Just told shanann I’m leaving, divorce me. I’ve chosen a different kind of life, I don’t want to be a daddy or your husband. I’ll send you some money just let me go, shanann loved Cw. And when you love someone you let go. Because you love them enough to allow them to be happy. It would not have taken long for Cw to realize he made a mistake. Only the way he handled it he can’t even try with shanann again. He took away any chances of reconciliation. And any chance of seeing his beautiful daughters grown up to be strong independent ladies like their mother. Any chance of being asked to walk them down the aisle to get married. I just hate what he an Nk did. And yes I feel she is to blame just as much. Men need to stop killing women they don’t want to be with. Something is just wrong that so many women and children are getting killed by men who are supposed to love them. I’m going to pray harder for the women in the world. Too many are in danger. LA
@unapologeticallyme7664
@unapologeticallyme7664 3 жыл бұрын
She's TRIFLING
@rachaelnelson4976
@rachaelnelson4976 3 жыл бұрын
@@cabinlifeatedensprings1710 Wish I knew that when I got my divorce hear in Tx
@stevesmom9868
@stevesmom9868 3 жыл бұрын
@@cabinlifeatedensprings1710 I don't think them girls should have grown up like their mom. She was an evil human being, mother and wife.
@blankenshipsarah2570
@blankenshipsarah2570 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he tried to drug her is scary evil by itself! He tried to kill their baby! The murders were so bad, I had not even thought about the drugging! Sick and evil man!
@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags
@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags 3 жыл бұрын
AND the person provided that drug WILL BE CHARGED W ATTEMPTED MURDER...if it was his sister Jamie who works w people who are prescribed that medicine...no wonder CW stated he'll take to his grave...praying it WILL be an early grave.. Like soon...very soon!
@annetteallen6521
@annetteallen6521 3 жыл бұрын
That was the night that Shanann was sick and vomiting all night, her brother was talking about it and thought it weird that Chris wasn't trying to check on her. So he did.
@gregoryholstein4224
@gregoryholstein4224 3 жыл бұрын
@Butterfly Sword I don't agree with you. I suspect the poisoning was an idea of CWs but NK supplied the Oxys. When it didn't cause the miscarriage, it was decided they all had to go. NK was the motive & catalyst, it wasn't about the money otherwise why kill the children? NK wanted "firsts" with CW and he sure facilitated that. NK is a lot more involved.
@nifflofair6685
@nifflofair6685 2 жыл бұрын
He is evil and is however have him the drugs.
@nifflofair6685
@nifflofair6685 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags exactly! That should not be let go that evil person who gave it to him also needs to be charged as an accessory to murder. God won't forgive until they all Tell the truth and say they are sorry , repent.
@mindful_senses5475
@mindful_senses5475 3 жыл бұрын
Shanann would listen. She repeatedly asked him to write her a letter explaining how he felt because he could better express himself in letter. He didn’t try. He had his mind made up.
@melindabates
@melindabates 3 жыл бұрын
I think she would’ve listened as well.
@kayeel7587
@kayeel7587 3 жыл бұрын
She definitely would’ve listened. She was begging him to tell her what was wrong so they could fix it. Makes me so sad 😔
@itabrennan7420
@itabrennan7420 10 ай бұрын
He had opted out of his marriage for lovesickness. You're right in your analysis. NK is an Amber Heard in her sociopathy but he is a family annihilator and he spends his days until he dies without ever seeing the sea again. I thought it was interesting how he showed off his physique in NC on vacation with his wife and kids without engaging with them and then remarkably did the same when he had been charged with the murders and removed his shirt in front of Tammy CBI like he thought she would be impressed.
@nicole6323
@nicole6323 10 ай бұрын
That's actually really good advice for so many relationships. Each one writes a letter to the other explaining what's wrong & how they suggest a fix. I bet that could help many couples. It definitely takes any yelling & fighting off the table. And nobody listens when they're being yelled at. 👍
@em84c
@em84c 5 ай бұрын
​@@itabrennan7420Johnny Depp doesn't seem like a nice guy either. I read its true he kicked her in the head. He admits it in text messages. Both him and Amber are as bad as each other. Have you read the texts between him and his friend Marilyn Manson. I was a huge fan of Depp and Manson growing up so it made me sad to read that stuff.
@SmokeyGoodness
@SmokeyGoodness 3 жыл бұрын
"They were dark and did some dark things"... Oh, you mean darker than, oh I dunno, 'Killing their entire family' dark?
@heatherj1127
@heatherj1127 3 жыл бұрын
If you look at the letter in Chris’ own handwriting she’s supposedly quoting from, the mentioning of dark and dark things isn’t there at all! Don’t get me wrong, I am NOT in any way a CW supporter but it should be noted that this isn’t in the letter and someone should ask Cadle for an explanation.
@alyciamarie4163
@alyciamarie4163 3 жыл бұрын
@@heatherj1127 that’s very interesting! I don’t trust cadle. I hate to say it but she is now writing a few other child murderers and wants to write books on them. This is about her ego. She goes on every channel possible and her stories always change. She says something different every time. Now I have to go back and see what he actually wrote and what she has said. Thanks for the info!
@Arizona_lilly
@Arizona_lilly 3 жыл бұрын
Lol ha
@salenamartinez8576
@salenamartinez8576 3 жыл бұрын
@Well Meaning Motherly Advice or Cradle is a phony liar
@virginiaa4445
@virginiaa4445 3 жыл бұрын
@@heatherj1127 its a cult NK is involed with she really was thats what's unbelievable that CW fell for it but he hated his life so much
@ArtfullyMusingLaura
@ArtfullyMusingLaura 3 жыл бұрын
If you are going to speculate about what he writes means , you should also consider that he could be making things up. He has proven to be a prolific liar as is Nikki.
@unapologeticallyme7664
@unapologeticallyme7664 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@helenaterschegget8791
@helenaterschegget8791 Ай бұрын
Ofcourse its almost as if he wants to insinuate it’s Nicole’s K fault with some sort of voodoo. And ofcourse it’s. Just his words. Shannan can’t defend herself, but we know Shannan texts to her friends and she had genuine feelings and actually tried to fix something and look at herself. Chris doesn’t have that ability it’s all other peoples fault
@juliedaly2381
@juliedaly2381 7 ай бұрын
She didn't want him, she wanted the challenge
@margy1884
@margy1884 16 күн бұрын
She wanted to win against Shan’ Ann. Shan’Ann did not even know she was in a competition with Nicole. Very low and sneaky of Nicole to do to a pregnant wife and mother of two girls.
@simonjohnson1875
@simonjohnson1875 3 жыл бұрын
I felt when NK said "fix it with your wife" she meant make it work with your wife. Then my girlfriend pointed out "fix it" might have actually meant finally go through with it and end it with his wife. So "fix it" meant fix it for NK, not his wife. Make it no longer a dirty secret and tell his wife its over- the problem is "fixed." Then after the murders NK realized she can use the "fix it" wording as a way of saying she wanted him to be with his wife. Context and semantics behind the phrase "fix it" is often overlooked. Texts are infamous for escalating arguments between couples due to their inability to convey sarcasm. Compounded with improper grammar and punctuation have confused recipients of said text's.
@buckeyepelican
@buckeyepelican 3 жыл бұрын
I thought "fix it" was to settle the separation/divorce issue so they could get on with their new life.
@rachaelnelson4976
@rachaelnelson4976 3 жыл бұрын
@@buckeyepelican He had lied to her in that
@kathywilliamson3946
@kathywilliamson3946 3 жыл бұрын
@Susie Barnett : without any doubt. My thoughts also were, “Well, if you don’t, I will!” (Just my opinion)
@dianeharrison5038
@dianeharrison5038 3 жыл бұрын
I’m with you on that. Many things get misconstrued over text. It’s never the best way to have a discussion. It’s the context in which things are said, ‘fix it’ could mean many things......
@unapologeticallyme7664
@unapologeticallyme7664 3 жыл бұрын
She has done nothing but lie her ass off
@badtothebone5654
@badtothebone5654 3 жыл бұрын
Love how you post things like this and read them, my eyes aren’t the best , so I can listen to you thank you
@kathywilliamson3946
@kathywilliamson3946 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem with my vision; I love her! Plus, she is brilliant.
@angelahardy1298
@angelahardy1298 3 жыл бұрын
I agree because if I wanted to read, I'd buy a book or newspaper. But I'm trying to exercise, garden, wash dishes, drive or shop and LISTEN to youtube
@tonyallewellyn7304
@tonyallewellyn7304 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem with vision and many times have to screenshot then read .. grr!!
@jd7936
@jd7936 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@deirdre9746
@deirdre9746 3 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when a person allows an active Satanist into their life..deception manipulation lies .. conspiracy.. etc..
@acatinthecradle
@acatinthecradle 3 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting he writes "she didn't look around much on this visit"....nobody asked him that but he felt the need to say it. I think she did look around and she looked around a lot.
@tlee2119
@tlee2119 3 жыл бұрын
He said she had dark friends? I think he's the worst kind of friend she had. He can't take any self responsibility, as he's supposed to be a grown married man with children who can think for himself, so even if his side chick told him to jump off a cliff, it should be his fault if he did.
@Speaktruthalways23
@Speaktruthalways23 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. She knew what the master bed looked like. She certainly sniffed around like the ugly troll she is.
@unapologeticallyme7664
@unapologeticallyme7664 3 жыл бұрын
@Butterfly Sword I wouldn't be surprised if they slept in that room. TRIFLING
@danielleledrew857
@danielleledrew857 3 жыл бұрын
U know if that were me I’d be looking cause I’d want to be sure what he was telling me was in deed true .
@reneepierce610
@reneepierce610 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm. Ok. 🤦‍♀️
@shelbyschnoor9369
@shelbyschnoor9369 2 жыл бұрын
As a dog owner and lover (of a very smart dog) there is no way Dieter “led” NK upstairs! He was either trying to get away from her or that was just an excuse. Not to mention, if he had gone upstairs that’s not a reason to follow him if she was “trying to respect his family’s space.” But if a dog wants to be near you… he wouldn’t run upstairs…
@natk4017
@natk4017 8 ай бұрын
You must not love or own very many dogs, because animals lead people places constantly. My kitty leads me to her food bowl multiple times every single day wanting seconds. There's literally stories of dogs saving their owners lives by leading rescue teams to them. I'm not defending NK, I'm just saying that it's not an impossible thought that Deter would go upstairs and she would follow if they were interacting. However, I don't think she interacted with Deter at that time. I think she took the liberty upon herself to explore the house, quickly got jealous and started to rage at Chris.
@calgal5752
@calgal5752 6 ай бұрын
@@natk4017. There is a big difference between what they do with their humans and what they do with strangers.
@natk4017
@natk4017 6 ай бұрын
@calgal5752 While NK was a stranger to Deter, he was still in his own home, in his own territory in which he was familiar with. Once again, I don't belive NK's version of events, but that's because there's a lot of evidence the family photo she's referring to was either in Bellas room or CWs room, not somewhere you could spot just going upstairs randomly.
@cinnamonpie8077
@cinnamonpie8077 4 ай бұрын
But,the word they used was “strong armed “.Deter was a little dog right?How could he have done that?
@KraftyKris10
@KraftyKris10 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like an excuse to me
@MaryClareVideos
@MaryClareVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Had CW walked away from Shannan and his family, NK would have lost interest in him. He wouldn't have had any money to spend on her.
@dianekachovich7610
@dianekachovich7610 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. I believe this also.
@MaryClareVideos
@MaryClareVideos 3 жыл бұрын
@@dianekachovich7610 I have been listening to the discovery read through on The Diplomat's channel. I haven't had a chance until now. He is fantastic.
@dianekachovich7610
@dianekachovich7610 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaryClareVideos I will thank you
@dianekachovich7610
@dianekachovich7610 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaryClareVideos just looked it up! And omg I love it. Thank you for recommending this channel, it's so real and very informative, I'm going to be pretty busy for awhile lol, as there are so many segments to watch. But I really like what they do. So thank you again.
@MaryClareVideos
@MaryClareVideos 3 жыл бұрын
@@dianekachovich7610 I'm on segment 40.. he is the best. I listen at night and he also helps with my insomnia. His voice is so soothing. He is also very ckind and compassionate ❤
@tamago77
@tamago77 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it odd that they (Chris and Nikki) were at this point of their relationship, talking about having kids, after a month?
@starsigngirl9789
@starsigngirl9789 3 жыл бұрын
Very bizzare actually good point 🤨 xx
@paper____
@paper____ 3 жыл бұрын
Yes extremely bizarre.
@winterlynn9012
@winterlynn9012 3 жыл бұрын
It is odd, but not unheard of. When I was 25 I got involved with a guy (only a year younger) it started off quick. One of those types of relationships that start off hot and heavy and within a month we were saying " I love you " spending every single day and night together and even though he had a 2 year old child, he said numerous times that he wished he had met me 1st so that I could have been the one who gave him a child. After only 2 months of dating I was pregnant and he was thrilled. He had "baggage " as he called his ex girlfriend who gave him a hard time seeing his son but it didn't seem to bother him. Neither did the fact that neither of us had good jobs. Just going off my own experience maybe Cw and Nk had this type of relationship. I feel these types of fast moving type of relationships are bad since we're so caught up in the "honeymoon phase " that we don't think or care about consequences. And possibly in Chris's case it's what led him and nk to talk about kids and eventually what led him to murder.
@jenndob3865
@jenndob3865 3 жыл бұрын
YES!
@emilyflotilla931
@emilyflotilla931 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like he looked at Nicole like a target, in a psycho kind of way as well. I'm sure she had major vulnerabilities that he honed in on as did Shannan, when she was diagnosed with fibromyalgia. She was wracked with pain, and exhausted. Once she got over the initial hump, she made the world her oyster, and Chris went into the background. I think Nicole's personality may have been quite the same. She played him like a fiddle to get him into her life. She may have promised him the moon, as I'm sure he did with her! I hope Nicole is thanking the powers that be for escaping life from him. She would have been next if he'd gotten away with it. I don't think she played a direct role in the murders. She was guilty of being a woman with reproduction drive, and having an affair with a married man. Yet I wouldn't be surprised if she may have dropped a hint sarcastically or jokingly.
@Apollyon-sz9sn
@Apollyon-sz9sn 3 жыл бұрын
Even in his letters it’s Me me me me. He didn’t put kessinger on a pedestal above his family he put his needs before anyone and anything. True narcissist right there.
@starsigngirl9789
@starsigngirl9789 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@addie_is_me
@addie_is_me 3 жыл бұрын
In that line, when he’s interviewed he keeps saying how much he needs them and misses them. I’ll tell you what is consuming when someone you love is missing, what could be happening to them! You are desperate to get them back safe, but what is happening to then is a gutting fear.
@Tina-gg7rk
@Tina-gg7rk 5 ай бұрын
Very true. He said he wanted to be a father so his kids would love him. (About himeself)
@jordanlever7857
@jordanlever7857 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if NK saw something that made her realize that Shan'ann was pregnant ( when she went upstairs in Shan'ann's home on July 14). Maybe she saw baby clothes and supplies or even a picture from the ultrasound?
@unapologeticallyme7664
@unapologeticallyme7664 3 жыл бұрын
I believe she saw it on her Facebook
@andreaturnquist4855
@andreaturnquist4855 3 жыл бұрын
@@unapologeticallyme7664 Absolutely!
@unapologeticallyme7664
@unapologeticallyme7664 3 жыл бұрын
@@andreaturnquist4855 💜
@koogle5410
@koogle5410 3 жыл бұрын
she saw it on fb
@Speaktruthalways23
@Speaktruthalways23 3 жыл бұрын
@@unapologeticallyme7664 for sure. Chris took his Facebook down immediately to hide that but said it was liberating. He’s just a nasty liar through and through 👿
@patriotlady7540
@patriotlady7540 3 жыл бұрын
He put himself in situations and he made choice to kill his family and throw them like trash. He said in his word after he buried Shannan and throw girls in tanks he felt nothing for his family
@DestyniLassiter
@DestyniLassiter 4 ай бұрын
Omg
@girlinterrupted9145
@girlinterrupted9145 3 жыл бұрын
She ingratiated herself with the cops, so I could see her doing the same with Chris. - she had to be in control, even on manipulative ways ... appearing as being “helpful” etc ...
@82882
@82882 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Such a cunning evil lady she is! I feel bad that Sandi, Frank n Frankie have just closed her chapter completely. 😔
@joanbaczek2575
@joanbaczek2575 3 жыл бұрын
His “turning points “ are his way of not taking control of himself he has external locust of control. He thinks everything he does happen to him- narcissist delusion at its best.
@rebeccaselley
@rebeccaselley 3 жыл бұрын
Bless you it's locus, not locust ☮️
@user-nv3hp4rg4b
@user-nv3hp4rg4b 3 жыл бұрын
@joan baczek I agree 100% with you!
@Pinkdiamond12
@Pinkdiamond12 3 жыл бұрын
Those pics of NK sighting do not look like her at all anyways.
@elisamastromarino7123
@elisamastromarino7123 3 жыл бұрын
He had everything most men his age want - and more, yet it wasn't enough. And whilst I understand that Shanann was headstrong, I think she had to be. Who else would make the decisions? Chris? He had no ideas in his head for how to have a family life, much less run a family life as any sort of decision maker. . I think when he's about 50 and he's lying there in that same rot, he's going to feel 100 times more stupid than he feels today. Good.
@nursebev2249
@nursebev2249 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct.she HAD to take the bull by the horns because he was useless.
@angelhart1111
@angelhart1111 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@wanderers5641
@wanderers5641 10 ай бұрын
Yes!! All of this!!
@em84c
@em84c 5 ай бұрын
And the fact she was headstrong would be what attracted him to her. Its not like she suddenly changed.
@em84c
@em84c 5 ай бұрын
And I think NK would have been just as headstrong in their relationship. She was already looking at apartments for him. Like she was planning his life for him.
@gailcullinan349
@gailcullinan349 3 жыл бұрын
I love listening to you and how you hit the nail on the head. Thank you.
@Natasha_835
@Natasha_835 3 жыл бұрын
Agree x
@kathywilliamson3946
@kathywilliamson3946 3 жыл бұрын
🌺🌸Totally agree🌸🌺
@dianeharrison5038
@dianeharrison5038 3 жыл бұрын
Yep me too! Michelle you’re the only genuinely authentic person on KZfaq. Look forward to your videos as they get the old cogs turning 😆
@sherryzbar
@sherryzbar 2 ай бұрын
The theory was that the reason he suddenly confessed was to protect her from being investigated.
@shanny4306
@shanny4306 7 күн бұрын
🇨🇦 I believe that
@Megan-rr6qg
@Megan-rr6qg 3 жыл бұрын
Every once in awhile the YT algorithm actually works! Just got recommended your channel in my feed and am now subscribed
@bestgrandma3748
@bestgrandma3748 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if any one ever mentioned this but he always says he sat in Shanann and strangled her so she was on her back but he tells the detectives that Bella came in and asked what’s wrong with mommy and he said she doesn’t feel good and the detectives asked what was she doing and he said she was facing down on the bed why would he turn her over I think he killed her while she was sleeping. And he said she was drugged so between drugged and sleeping she wouldn’t fight back
@georgiegirl4103
@georgiegirl4103 Жыл бұрын
I wonder who gave the Oxi 80mg to Watts?? Gee, maybe NK!!
@em84c
@em84c 5 ай бұрын
I think autopsy showed she was on her side when strangled. I bet she was asleep
@darlenesutton7248
@darlenesutton7248 3 ай бұрын
@@georgiegirl4103he gave her oxy in NC hoping she lose the baby
@leeoregan9766
@leeoregan9766 3 жыл бұрын
If all of this is framed by codependence, it makes a lot of sense. Relationship with his mother, very lopsided parent/child control issue relationship, immature and 'stuck'-, no significant girlfriends. Meets Shanann via his family connections - ( friend request and encouragement-match making?) Shanann, worldy, independent, go getter, home owner, knows her own mind, not remotely co-dependent. He latches on to Shanann, and does his romancing, needy, rescuer - 'mirroring' of the Frank and Sandy dynamic, to charm Shanann. He's settled in his codependent, 'familiar' role- alpha female rules the roost- just like his family dynamics - Ronnie/Cindy relationship. He 'plays' the opaque, vapid yes man, Shanann has to be the one to stepup, be driven to attain her goals. Her sales and marketing training is all goal oriented. Her goals were for a successful family, nice house, nice car, good income stream.... the 'have it now' generation. NK in her predatory manhunt for a boyfy via her male dominated workplace gets a hit with CW. He's flattered, his entranced. She plays the morph game and 'mirrors' his likes and desires.... someone 'mirroring' him! How very mindblowing for a shadowdweller! He's dependent on his significant female... be mild, agreeable and insignificant. In just over 60 days he repeated the same patterns as he had courting Shanann, now with NK. Another strong minded, independent, goal oriented woman, who smelt different, felt different and was 'new, exciting'.... not the familiar and the predictable that he had with Shanann. NK shows her immaturity playing fantasy futures after just 60 days of shagging some guy and sneaking around behind his wife's back, their coworkers, his parents'... everyone... clandestine play acting a relationship.... talking futures and children, when they were sneaking about. A codependent entered an illusion, fuelled by a fantasy future, in a 2 month affair with some chick in the office at work. Nth Carolina must have felt insanely oppressive, all his worlds colliding.... his wife outraged at his mother, his mother feeding the drama, his mother in law scrutinising him, two little girls demanding his time, and the shag on the side demanding his time, focus and attention... All of them demanding a piece of the shadowdweller, the vapid yesman. 🤷‍♀️
@leeoregan9766
@leeoregan9766 3 жыл бұрын
I don't mean to infer that Frank snr was vapid or a yes man, apologies if it reads that way. My intention was more to express he was successful in latching on to Shanann by mirroring the relationship her parents have... he enamoured them by mirroring their relationship with Shanann.... good loving, caring, supportive boyfy and then, after two years, husband.... at Shanann's lowest health period... he played 'saviour'.
@sunflowerseeds263
@sunflowerseeds263 3 жыл бұрын
The way that you frame this fails to ignore the role that Shannan played in the deterioration of her marriage. Shannan was completely self-absorbed, inattentive, controlling, financially irresponsible, materialistic, and manipulative. Through all of these negative behaviors, she left the door wide open for another woman to begin planting her own seeds. Most men would have just left, but unfortunately, Chris was too weak and fearful of Shannan to take this path.
@leeoregan9766
@leeoregan9766 3 жыл бұрын
There were two people in that marriage that were financially irresponsible. Self centred you say? Such a successful people person, so self centred her close friend raised the alarm when Shanann had been offline for less than 6 hours? Manipulative you say? How so? With whom? Inattentive? She was far from inattentive.... OCD IS attentive- hyper-attentive. Based on what supporting evidence do you believe her to be inattentive? Based on whose knowledge? The murderer of his entire family? Two lives and perhaps six posts on fb a day? for business boosting? Because her girls were in daycare? Whilst she worked in sales, marketing and promotions, full time? No-one is perfect nor placed on a dias of worship.... and unfortunately, there was a weak man who CHOSE to have an affair, lie his arse off to everyone, including the shag on the side, then annihilate his family. He murdered them, he didn't pack a bag and shack up with his shag. 🤷‍♀️
@sunflowerseeds263
@sunflowerseeds263 3 жыл бұрын
@@leeoregan9766 close friends? Shannan only had downlines. Every “friend” was a Thrive distributor. No Thrive = no friend. Besides, who the frick cares that she had an organized pantry; everything this lady did was for show, as evidenced by her messy office that stayed closed and locked. Last, you refer to NK as a shag??? Just so you are aware, Shannan once played the role of “shag” to the middle eastern owner of Dirty South. 😉
@lindawells3049
@lindawells3049 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunflowerseeds263 Not fearful enough to kill her though..
@carolinecawley2921
@carolinecawley2921 9 ай бұрын
Shannan was begging him to talk to her and explain why he had changed it was him who wasn’t listening
@lp6196
@lp6196 Ай бұрын
He was checked out by then. She had also asked many times if there was someone else and he lied many times to her. It would have been so much better if he'd just been honest. Seems like he wasn't able to stand up to any woman in his life.
@shannongeorgiapeach76
@shannongeorgiapeach76 3 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if the neighbors went back on their security camera to see the days where NK was there & movements of the cars after he confessed it was known to everyone about his affair?
@elizabethheron9876
@elizabethheron9876 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine they would have and its likely the police did also
@shannongeorgiapeach76
@shannongeorgiapeach76 2 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethheron9876 true. It still breaks my heart for Sandra, Frank & Frankie jr Which BTW, if you dont know, Sandra has her own KZfaq channel & she shows how to make a lot of her recipies. Im glad shes staying busy. She even made a meal from Shanann's recipies. What so messed up is the other day, a stupid ignorant troll made a comment on her video saying how bad it was that she was using her daughter & grandkids death on KZfaq for money etc. The true classy but yet sassy lady she is, posted the person's post and asked us all to pray for that person.
@elizabethheron9876
@elizabethheron9876 2 жыл бұрын
@@shannongeorgiapeach76 I didnt know Sandie had her own channel I will go to her channel and have a look, i do belong to a few facebook groups for Shannan and the kids. It's so sad that she has to deal with trolls
@shannongeorgiapeach76
@shannongeorgiapeach76 2 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethheron9876 oh im so glad i told you. She does respond and or gives ❤'s. They are a strong amazing family. Nice talking with you
@elizabethheron9876
@elizabethheron9876 2 жыл бұрын
@@shannongeorgiapeach76 Thanks again I appreciate you taking the time to tell me about sandie's channel ❤
@jaggerkate
@jaggerkate 3 жыл бұрын
Michelle, thank you so much for all the time and energy you’ve put in to all these videos. I’ve learned so much from you. ❤️
@maryellenmcguire3847
@maryellenmcguire3847 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of your hard work. I thought I knew everything about this case but you have really done your homework. Keep up the great work. Love how you focus on the truth.
@angelaangela6875
@angelaangela6875 3 жыл бұрын
NK said she read in the newspaper of Watts bankruptcy...she knew and reiterated her knowledge in the interview of how nice the home was and the furnishings and looks like it costs a lot...so why would she want to give CW a son knowing he was already strapped financially? S
@unapologeticallyme7664
@unapologeticallyme7664 3 жыл бұрын
Because she's evil, competitive and was giving him an ultimatum. she wants everybody to think she was innocent in this but it's not true
@em84c
@em84c 5 ай бұрын
she said in interviews her house was furnished with cheap things but she made it look nice. And that Shannan was materialistic and spent money they couldn't afford. Apparently Chris fell into her arms and said he didn't know women like her existed. So she was telling Chris she doesn't care about money and doesn't want a big house.
@bredaobrennan9993
@bredaobrennan9993 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michelle, I am really into the Watts case too, you're the most balanced, unbiased true crime vlogger I have come across, and I follow quite a few. You have a way of stating the obvious, in a down to earth way, that is very refreshing. I find myself agreeing with you - out loud vocally - on every observation that you make. Thank you for all your hard work, and for your sane voice, and for you caring enough to share your views with us.
@AndrewintheBerks
@AndrewintheBerks 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all your hard researching work. I share your interest and you are a wonderful story teller and source for information. Really the best.
@enigma679
@enigma679 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe that Nikki did want the house or Shananns life. Watts had been telling Nikki that the Watts were always house poor and that Shanann was constantly on the phone with her MLM friends and spending money on things, that they couldn’t afford. Nikki doesn’t strike me as that person. Lord knows what lies Watts had been telling Nikki along the way. He took the vows, he made the children, and he was lying to his wife. IMO, the blame for his atrocities lies 100% with Watts.
@belindamoles9192
@belindamoles9192 3 жыл бұрын
I think there is more to this woman than meets the eye. She was already looking him up before they got together, she was already planning to get her claws into him. I think she gave him am ultimatum, its either her or me type of thing, and that's why all the texts were deleted, because they would have incriminate her and led her to being an accessory to the fact. Maybe this 35c thing he is trying for he is going to Name her as being more involved. If I'm going down your coming down with me type of thing, he's going to say she put him up to it but he didn't really want to do it because she said you either do something or I'm going to tell your wife exactly what you've been up to. If he kills his wife in his thought process, she won't be able to have anyone to tell. If he got rid of all the family rather than divorce means he wouldn't have any financial burdens, child support etc. She should have been more looked into, there is something very dodgy about this case and there is a lot more to be unraveled, it was too cut and shut, to quick.
@juliedaly2381
@juliedaly2381 7 ай бұрын
I think he took it to far
@alk158
@alk158 28 күн бұрын
But she knew their finances was a wreck and some messages I read she wasn't so sure of him and saying too good to be true so there was already enough to cool her jets.
@DiegoRamirez-zc7fs
@DiegoRamirez-zc7fs 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate your insight, Michelle. This case has grabbed me like no other.
@bernadettetuley4917
@bernadettetuley4917 3 жыл бұрын
Keep doing anything I can listen to without needing to see! Love your voice, v late at night when I only want audible ...hate having to wake up to look at stuff 😆 much love.
@PinkiesBrokenWheelchair
@PinkiesBrokenWheelchair 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Bernadette 👋🏻😁 I do the exact same thing, I need audible 'distraction' in order to get to sleep and this channel is perfect for winding down. I find Michelle's insights very interesting, I can relate to her thought processes and her voice is very relaaaaaaaaxing to listen to! 💜😊🇬🇧
@Carol-sp5yg
@Carol-sp5yg 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and your commentary❤️You never disappoint in context.
@margaretconnery7422
@margaretconnery7422 3 жыл бұрын
My ex had his fancy bit in our house in our bed.. She's disgusting
@rosep8481
@rosep8481 3 жыл бұрын
That’s just horrible. He is lucky you didn’t have a shotgun. I do. And I would use it
@margaretconnery7422
@margaretconnery7422 3 жыл бұрын
@@rosep8481 I just beat all round me and pulled out hair i was livid
@tlee2119
@tlee2119 3 жыл бұрын
She's? Isn't he disgusting? The way Chris was so keen to tell reporters, her friends and the police they'd had discussions about separating, why would you think he hadn't told his side chick that his wife knew they were separating? I don't think Chris ever admitted to an affair.
@margaretconnery7422
@margaretconnery7422 3 жыл бұрын
@@tlee2119 He's not man enough
@addie_is_me
@addie_is_me 3 жыл бұрын
@@margaretconnery7422 He was the cheater, I hope you hurt him as well.
@juanitarichards1074
@juanitarichards1074 3 жыл бұрын
Watts did lead a sheltered life and never had any long term relationships till he met Shannan. Perhaps "dark" to him is anything other than the missionary position........
@stargirlnextdoor
@stargirlnextdoor 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but NK told her friend no guy had EVER done oral sex on her . So she was probably just as enthused with everything as Chris was
@juanitarichards1074
@juanitarichards1074 3 жыл бұрын
@@stargirlnextdoor I don't think thats what she meant, she meant they were reluctant to do so, and I got the impression that of the ones who did they were no good at it. I don't believe she got to 30 years old without ever experiencing it......Ithink she was googling the other things because she had no experience in them, if she had she wouldn't need to google them. She may have just been curious but had no intention of trying them out. I google all sorts of things I'm curious about or want to study in depth - serial killers for one, and forensic methods for catching them, it doesn't mean I want to become one and learn how to evade the law.
@aworkerthatcared
@aworkerthatcared 3 жыл бұрын
@Mary Lynch I think he was taking much more of theMLM products then he was supposed to and that kept him jacked up..maybe they did drugs together and that wasn't a good mix
@reginarusso8181
@reginarusso8181 Жыл бұрын
Lmfaooo absolutely not Shannan is Italian and a Goddess they had a great bedroom countertop car etc. Love life. He is a lustfulled fool that's all. Pump up the ego which was his downfall stupid leads stupid into the stupers of stupid. Maybe dark means chocolate meat. Lol
@NATALIEKING1976
@NATALIEKING1976 3 жыл бұрын
Can we all just realize that Nikki knew shanann was pregnant with a boy because she says to Chris “ I thought I could be the one to give you your first son”. Boom. Also, his letter proves premeditated murder.
@em84c
@em84c 5 ай бұрын
Its so weird NK was obsessed with firsts. Seems very immature for a 30 year old. Most people have a history by that age. Especially if you go after married men!
@starsigngirl9789
@starsigngirl9789 3 жыл бұрын
Great video very insightful ! Xxx this case is beyond fascinating and down right tragic ❤
@JY-tq8dr
@JY-tq8dr 5 ай бұрын
Really great coverage and things I had never heard before! Just subbed.
@lookingglassmath1688
@lookingglassmath1688 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis and insight!
@rosierousseau7889
@rosierousseau7889 Жыл бұрын
Thank u , your very good at analyzing the points u bring up. Good video , thank u
@michelleadamchak1330
@michelleadamchak1330 3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel Michelle, and I hit the subscription button and rang the bell. I love to hear you speak, and your content is superb. Thanks for posting these videos.
@heavenleeangeltalk8471
@heavenleeangeltalk8471 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, Michelle. Ive been rewatching everything in this case. Its all so sad. I totally agree with you on all of this! RIP beautiful angels
@giovannaiamele8782
@giovannaiamele8782 3 жыл бұрын
Your analysis is so interesting!
@gotagreengardening8387
@gotagreengardening8387 3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel love supporting people and I was interested in this case even though it did not really get media coverage here in Australia xxx
@ashaharry2132
@ashaharry2132 6 ай бұрын
He's sorry he got caught. Not for ending his family.
@GaiusPrimusMatius
@GaiusPrimusMatius 2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@fullmoon5495
@fullmoon5495 3 жыл бұрын
amazing analysis that rings true....i appreciate your thoughts on this matter...as the case haunts me..i feel there is more to come.
@ghettocountry8678
@ghettocountry8678 3 жыл бұрын
I wished she would have gotten to the doctor's apt. because if so they would have tested her blood and then they would have questioned her about that oxy, then she would have known for sure what was going on...
@em84c
@em84c 5 ай бұрын
The autopsy was negative for drugs
@nepowers4794
@nepowers4794 3 жыл бұрын
Love your explanation of this!
@deniserenee5267
@deniserenee5267 3 жыл бұрын
NK googled Shanann and Chris back in 2017. Chris had said in the interview in Wins. that "NK wanted what she wanted" And she wanted him. IMO, the date night at The Lazy Dog, I think Chris told NK that Shanann was pregnant, the baby was a boy and Shanann picked the name Nico. That IMO started a big blow up for NK. Who knows, but IMO, could she of showed up that Sunday night to let Shanann know Chris has been cheating on her? I know of someone that did that. But no one murdered anyone. He is where he belongs.
@melrose3991
@melrose3991 3 жыл бұрын
Your thoughts are spot on !!
@dailee9813
@dailee9813 3 жыл бұрын
He makes me sick! Shanann and his kids wasn't number one, not important to him until after he'd killed them all and NK was out of the picture! He told Shanann no at every turn, no sex, no hugs, no kisses, no time with the kids, no more life with her, he even through the book in the trash. He was willing to replace his wife and kids after only 5 or 6 weeks? They didn't mean much to him from the start! He's looking for a book or movie deal? He planned it all from start to finish, now he wants to blame it all on his mothers demon ancesters and NK? This will always be a one sided story, told from the mouth and mind of this born and bred liar. I'll bet Shananns words would be different from his! If she had seen this evil, evil, side of things she didn't understand with him!? His wife and kids made him appear normal. His words, the killers words shouldn't even be acknowledged the way this killer has taken control over his own murderous narrative, he's become a celebrity from having an illicit extra marital affair, the abuse of his wife and children and the brutal killing of four innocent, unsuspecting people! I despise him for what he did to Shanann, bella, celeste and baby nico!
@christineisabel7827
@christineisabel7827 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on this video, thank you
@user-nv3hp4rg4b
@user-nv3hp4rg4b 3 жыл бұрын
First timer here. Great video. Love your style. 💜
@trudyramgren3379
@trudyramgren3379 3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos and views on this case. You talk truthfully where as many people here on you tube do not. I Think NK was jealous and resentful of CW marriage to Shannan and her girls. I also think she was a manipulator. It would be interesting to know what the 111 minute conversation was between them the night before the murders. I also feel that CW has mommy issues that stem from his childhood with his mother. He was subservient and didn't have a backbone. Instead of sharing his feelings about his marriage to Shannan, he murders her. I really can't pinpoint what and how much influence NK had on CW. I THINK CW would have murdered anyway. I would love to know the " dark" secrets NK participated in however. If she was a worshiper of Satin, that's a very unsettling thought. I know there are demons in this world as well as good spirits. I also believe in the supernatural. Could NK lead CW down a dangerous path??? I'm hoping much more is revealed in this case. It's a strange one. Keep up the good analogy!!!
@unapologeticallyme7664
@unapologeticallyme7664 3 жыл бұрын
I believe she did
@virginiaa4445
@virginiaa4445 3 жыл бұрын
They even kill your family members im thinking hes protecting his parents from being killed and or hes embarrassed because of the dark things they did sex and probably orgies I don't know but its really bad
@johnsharman7614
@johnsharman7614 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I've just listened to your vlog and found it very interesting and thorough and helpful I also enjoyed how you segmented the intelligence you discovered thanks for the information. 👍
@kimberleyheadland927
@kimberleyheadland927 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Michelle💕 …………..really enjoy listening to this this case as always fascinated me somehow those poor babies and children did not deserve to die in that awful manner……..Teresa Ann 🇬🇧
@judystanko3470
@judystanko3470 3 жыл бұрын
Michelle lm a new sub and absolutely love your channel. 🥰👍👍
@kellyscott5773
@kellyscott5773 3 жыл бұрын
Imo, I believe when NK was helping him look for an apartment it was going to be an apartment that she could easily slid right into.. she wanted him away from Shanann... and needled him with that at every turn.. She knew when she showed up at SHANANN'S house on 4th of July that OF COURSE the entire neighborhood would know!! It's the freaking 4th of July!! 10 out of 10 ppl are outside cooking out with friends & family... so she had a lot more control over ending the marriage than ppl want to acknowledge. Had she let him end his marriage in his own time, by his own terms, she knew she didn't stand a chance!! I 100% believe that Shanann would have fought for her husband.. her family!! But he wants to yet again throw Shanann under the bus by saying he couldn't talk to her about problems cuz he figured she wouldn't listen... all she did at the end way beg and plead & cry for him to communicate.. but in the CW fashion, he took the cowardly way out by acting like a kid, all but sticking his fingers in his ears and screaming LAA LAA LAAA so he didn't have to face what a piece of shit he is at his core. THE SINGLE ONLY GOOD THING I BELIEVE CHRIS WATTS BESTOWED UPON THIS WORLD WAS HIS BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN.. The single only thing he could do to accept responsibility & show that he actually did love his family at any point, is to tell the entire truth... ALL OF IT. Then maybe.. his family can finally rest because until they do, he's taken more from them than their lives. RIP Shanann, Bella, CeCe and baby Niko 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Jena948
@Jena948 3 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video! 🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻♥️
@patrick3178
@patrick3178 3 жыл бұрын
What a mess my God. I cannot believe he is a narc or psycopath.... too weak to be either or.
@acatinthecradle
@acatinthecradle 3 жыл бұрын
He sure seems to have a giant ego though doesn't he.....bizarre.
@unapologeticallyme7664
@unapologeticallyme7664 3 жыл бұрын
You're exactly right... He's no narcissist.. but he is evil
@unapologeticallyme7664
@unapologeticallyme7664 3 жыл бұрын
@@acatinthecradle He definitely seems to now but not before
@skylerswifey
@skylerswifey 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! Keep em coming! Btw, hello from Texas!
@sharonsekhon9475
@sharonsekhon9475 3 жыл бұрын
He's a lying sack of waste. He tried to kill his mother when he killed Shannan. Unfortunately, he still doesn't get that he lost his right to any respect when he murdered four innocent people.
@donnad6914
@donnad6914 3 жыл бұрын
Michelle I love your videos. WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY MAKES SO MUCH SENSE! I hope you can work together more with Caddle and another YT creator "Unmurdered" Heather she writes to CW and has many many letters from him. I love how you analyze and examine his letters.
@simonecassimire651
@simonecassimire651 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, analysis on chris was to the tee,thanks
@glenchadwick420
@glenchadwick420 3 жыл бұрын
A woman feels like she is really something special when she can get a man to cheat on his wife with her. Then for the next test she will see if she has the power to get him to leave his family for her. If he says he will that's when she knows she is the one with all the power. She will play with that man's mind and emotions to see just how much power she really has. She will call his phone just to see if he will answer it when she knows he is with his wife. She will show up at his job just to see if he will talk to her in front of others that know he is married. This power for a woman is very addicting because it proves to them they have power over men.
@nicholeclark3478
@nicholeclark3478 3 жыл бұрын
This is not all women. A percentage...probably but not at all a reflection of women as you state it
@bredaobrennan9993
@bredaobrennan9993 3 жыл бұрын
Same goes for some men.
@ED80s
@ED80s 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it's a challenge at first but then they realize they are being used and then start w the mind games, threats, demands etc. If CW chose SW over NK I guarantee NK would have caused scenes at work and start showing up at the house to talk to SW.
@yournextmarketingprodesign9749
@yournextmarketingprodesign9749 6 ай бұрын
My husbands mistress did all of this
@annarodriguez6808
@annarodriguez6808 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@leeoregan9766
@leeoregan9766 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting point to make.... he states his relationship with NK he could 'be' himself but couldn't with Shanann... so he could be a slightly overweight skater dude with a bad haircut, who couldn't talk around Shanann because he was so nervous? Or the more confident man, with a healthy fit body, well dressed ( by his wife) who appeared to be quite successful? The bloke who, after 8 years with his wife, that SHE had put the time, love and care into? 🤔
@bridgettrose4779
@bridgettrose4779 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! 👍👍👍
@mamaveros
@mamaveros 3 жыл бұрын
HELLO IT STARTED WITH HIS MOTHER!! WHO CONDITIONED HIM TO BE PASSIVE AND WEAK!! AS A MOTHER SHE NEEDS TO OWN HER STUFF IN THIS!!!
@georgiegirl4103
@georgiegirl4103 Жыл бұрын
Including her pathetic husband...Ronnie!! What a weakling!! Just as his son.....
@terriqueen3315
@terriqueen3315 5 ай бұрын
How about the daddy , why just the mom ?
@mamaveros
@mamaveros 5 ай бұрын
Dad was never given a voice, as his mom was overbearing ​@@terriqueen3315
@Rachels-Rockn
@Rachels-Rockn 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Michelle I really enjoy your videos thank you 😊
@julesasher105
@julesasher105 3 жыл бұрын
He is a true narcissist. The letter is “I” and loved the attention.
@dogmomofive7011
@dogmomofive7011 3 жыл бұрын
I think without NK he wouldn’t have had that sense of desperation to destroy his family. I think he would have left eventually because of nutgate and the way his girls were speaking to him but he would not have annihilated his family.
@georgiaamanatides4207
@georgiaamanatides4207 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, NK was the tipping point. Chris could have gone home to live in mommy and daddy's basement as before and his pal, daddy, would have secured him a job at the dealership. Cindy would have been soooo happy with this arrangement. She would have her baby boy back.
@rachaelnelson4976
@rachaelnelson4976 3 жыл бұрын
He was married so technically he was who ruined his marriage
@badtothebone5654
@badtothebone5654 3 жыл бұрын
The way a 3 and 4 year old was speaking to him? WTF? Those were babies
@kathywilliamson3946
@kathywilliamson3946 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgiaamanatides4207 : NK would have never lasted. Agree he would have moved home with mommy and he would have recalled why he never visited his mother when he went away to college. He didn’t even want to talk to his mom when he was in prison. Had he just been with Ronnie, they would have done fine. He couldn’t make it on his own and he knew it.
@kathywilliamson3946
@kathywilliamson3946 3 жыл бұрын
@@badtothebone5654 : exactly; he should have nipped that in the bud with the girls. That’s when the dynamics with ShanAnn and the family needed to change, and he did start that process when he finally spoke up. AND, to his credit, he admitted that it was as much his fault for not speaking up. And, to ShanAnn’s credit, she admitted she had no clue and would downsize and do anything to keep their family intact. Had it not been for NK’s pressure, it could have possibly worked but at least, four beautiful souls would still be with us.
@jessicaponticello8937
@jessicaponticello8937 3 жыл бұрын
It really should not be legal for anyone to make money on another persons tragedy. Let alone the murder of 4 people am I the only one that feels like that?
@katalynbabe
@katalynbabe 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone's getting paid off their deaths! Its sickening.
@barbarahenninger6642
@barbarahenninger6642 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the psychological status of people who get a kick out of spreading hate and smears on the internet. I have always wondered exactly what they get out of it.
@natk4017
@natk4017 8 ай бұрын
There's a diagnosis for CW defenders, it's called Hybristophilia. These are women who are s3xually attracted to killers for various reasons, but all relating to their crimes/punishment. A theory is that some mentally ill women see killers as the 'ultimate man' because killing is a signal of masculinity to them. Some women like the control of having a partner that will never leave incarceration and has limited opportunity to cheat. There's numerous reasons this happens. C0lumbin3rs, Ted Bundy fans, Manson fans, Paul Bernardo fans, and Chris Watts defenders, they all fall into the same category of mentally ill women. On the other side of the coin, men identify with CW because they are also covert narcissists. They see themselves in CW and can't bear the thought that he is a bad person, because it means they are a bad person. That, and men who are just straight up s3xually attracted to thoughts of murd3r and t0rtur3.
@joanbaczek2575
@joanbaczek2575 3 жыл бұрын
The dark things are chris’s hallucinations cuz he was sleep deprived. Nk talks about if chris wasn’t moving he’d fall asleep mid sentence if he sat down during the time he was staying with her while his family was in n.Carolina
@Cugelclever
@Cugelclever 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. NK seems like she would be into casting spells and other BS. Typical edgy 30-something white girl.
@wendywhite4667
@wendywhite4667 3 жыл бұрын
Or only true. A job wife and two small kids..its exhausting ...i remember those days. Sleep was precious . and I could not ever seem to get enough!
@TeriInOhio
@TeriInOhio 3 жыл бұрын
No should have been arrested. She walks around free and proud, makes me sick
@deannawitt9376
@deannawitt9376 Жыл бұрын
He lies so much. Nikki lied too.
@cinnamonpie8077
@cinnamonpie8077 4 ай бұрын
This woman explains everything very well!It totally makes sense!
@c.mckenzie2155
@c.mckenzie2155 3 жыл бұрын
Why would Nikki make a diet for Chris? Was she some kind of an expert? It would seem the Thrive program would have done just fine. He was sucked into the relationship with Nikki and she was a powerful force. If he had ended up with Nikki, and gotten away with murder or just gotten divorced, Nikki would have turned into a Shanann to him and to his mother. He would have felt robbed.
@howareyou857
@howareyou857 3 жыл бұрын
Nikki was far more controlling than Shannan in every way.
@emilyflotilla931
@emilyflotilla931 2 жыл бұрын
And he probably would have killed her as well. In spite of her strong type A personality, she had vulnerabilities that Chris saw in her at some point. That's been my theory. She was guilty of having an affair with a guilty man more than anything.
@lillyshaw9439
@lillyshaw9439 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Michelle, that letter describing NK’s visit sounds like he has memorised it. Strangely, NK tells the police they are the only two times she visited the house. Plus, she DIDN’T look around the house on the first visit. I don’t think that is something a man would say - it’s exactly what NK said! Neither of them mention the 3rd date. Interesting…
@chickpstranded6714
@chickpstranded6714 3 жыл бұрын
And by the way I totally agree with you when you say that cw is completely responsible for his own actions. All the he rest is an attempt to justify the unjustifiable. As you correctly pointed out, even people physically dependent on heavy substances don’t do what he did. Using drugs, in my opinion doesn’t justify anything. Drug addicts are people, like everybody else and like many sectors of society you meet nice addicts and horrible ones. Even if the substance does change the chemistry of people’s brain, it doesn’t suddenly turn individuals into monsters, the triggers were already there, inside his psyche. So yes chris, cindy, ron and demented serial killers groupies, accept the reality of what YOU HAVE DONE and stop making us sick with talks of god and darkness and please stop blaming other people for your actions because you’re not a baby, man up chris watts and shut up
@bernadettetuley4917
@bernadettetuley4917 3 жыл бұрын
Omg. Well said ❤
@tlee2119
@tlee2119 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why people can't see it's obvious he told her his wife knew they were going to separate. When Shanann was missing, Chris told reporters, the police and her friends that they're separating. I don't think he ever told Shanann that he was having an affair. It doesn't match his statements that he tried to kill the children first but they woke up and came into his room later after he killed Shanann. Shanann's father said that if she was awake when he tried to kill her, she would have fought back.
@NATALIEKING1976
@NATALIEKING1976 3 жыл бұрын
Preach it
@Gurl-5150
@Gurl-5150 4 ай бұрын
We heard what he thought of her. He told the police that she "took his breath away". What he says now means less than nothing.
@seeker27.
@seeker27. 3 жыл бұрын
Garentee you it ment the dark magic she was into. Ppl dont realize how real stuff like that is until its to late.
@katalynbabe
@katalynbabe 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@pad6080
@pad6080 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Stay away from those sh*t
@allieford3021
@allieford3021 3 жыл бұрын
what’s funny too is that in the body cams Jane said there was a “rock” under ceces bed. I’ve heard it was a crystal only found in certain parts of the world. could be used with magic, maybe she put a spell on him. idk 🤷🏼‍♀️
@shambagoo6657
@shambagoo6657 2 жыл бұрын
Please. It’s the twenty first century. Belief in witchcraft was ridiculous during the Salem witch trials. Easily influenced people, who are to silly to understand science may “believe” in witchcraft. That doesn’t make it true or valid. And “dark” things? Gathering in circles and messing around with rocks is juvenile. Thinking something so random is evidence of a murderous conspiracy says more about the people repeating such total nonsense than it does about NK.
@Magneticitist
@Magneticitist 3 жыл бұрын
Massive amounts of phentermine probably had him turned upside down but he didn't think anything was truly wrong because his entire household was in the same boat and normalized it on an every day basis. If NK was looking for apartments it was like an ultimatum that Chris literally leave his wife while still married. IDK why then it would be confusing for NK to seek a life with him if it involved him leaving his current one at that time. Chris was more defending Shanann as a wife than downplaying his love for NK. He even said any hopes of repairing a relationship with Shanann were over when NK gave him her house key. Obviously there was more he could get from her than from at home because he automatically chose her without a thought soon as the chance presented itself. What he is saying is the chance to start a new life with her was not the reason for the murders, but he also tries to stress that Shanann did nothing deserving of death either. If the divorce actually went through Chris would be ruined and NK would have needed to be the breadwinner entirely. Shanann would have probably proven that Chris was cheating in an expensive divorce. Shanann with her pregnancy and Thrive habit wouldn't have been able to care for the kids by herself. NK needed to push for their split because it wasn't happening fast enough. They would have sold the house, found other cheaper living, and continued their new lives as Chris reared a son for the first time. He got the key from NK and in his mind was already living with her in the same house, he just needed to somehow remedy the situation of his impending financial doom were he to just up and separate to live with another woman before divorce attorneys were hired.
@slessmilani
@slessmilani Ай бұрын
She was manipulating… she didn’t mean for him to really fix his family.. she played the “you’re gonna lose me” card… the guilt card . She ignited all of this . She didn’t give a crap that he was married . She was jealous of Shanann. She wanted the same life with the same man .
@ronnieidol1711
@ronnieidol1711 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a quick fix because of the quick fix I can go crappie fishing this evening your the man
@Sapphirebluewho
@Sapphirebluewho 3 жыл бұрын
Great video 😊 for over 2yrs the question that has really bugged me is this: who took care of Dieter while CW was off with NK camping in the sand dunes? Did he leave him in the crate for 2days?
@statesoftheunited7049
@statesoftheunited7049 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was NA. She said her or her son watched dog while they were in NC
@ED80s
@ED80s 3 жыл бұрын
Ok NA son took care of dieter during NC but the question is while he was w NK at sand dunes. He slept over and spent all his time at NK house. Dieter was left alone a lot so it wouldn't surprise me if he left the dog alone for 2 days.
@jupo9928
@jupo9928 Жыл бұрын
I think Chris presented as a humble guy and when Nikki saw the house it suddenly felt weird. She saw the pictures of the family, the dog and freaked out and felt guilty. Chris reassured her. Chris wanted his reality to be what he said it was regardless of it was. And I'm sure he lied to Shan'nann and made her think everything was fine for a long long time. I really don't think Nikki wanted that house, no woman wants *that* thing, they want *their own thing* (that might cost the same as the first thing or more).
@Apollyon-sz9sn
@Apollyon-sz9sn 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody ever saw kessinger at Saratoga trail. She must have driven around the back even back then.
@jamessmith530
@jamessmith530 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your show
@bPriyalSocials
@bPriyalSocials Ай бұрын
He gave her oxycodon on the first night of meeting Shannan, it was premeditated, that is, before going to the holiday, that is, when he was with Kessinger. And Kessinger had texted her to "use" that holiday and "fix his problems with his wife" the night before. When Kessinger, who appearsa to be a posessive psycho got to know about Shannan and Chris PLANNING pregnancy (or currently pregnant is what seems), she stormed out... and texted him from her car for 30mins from outside his house??? And then Suddenly became calm??! Like nothing happened? Right after it? Obviously devised some plannn to overcome her anger and sadness about not being able to give him his first son. She planned to kill their baby and told him to feed her oxy. How did he get his hands on oxy? Who gave him? He said he would never admit. Obviously it was Kessinger.
@giovannaiamele8782
@giovannaiamele8782 3 жыл бұрын
That woman NK was the cause of all of it shey should not have let her go!!!
@rachaelnelson4976
@rachaelnelson4976 3 жыл бұрын
True if not her would had been some one else
@unapologeticallyme7664
@unapologeticallyme7664 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@brettlawson9488
@brettlawson9488 3 жыл бұрын
Chris is the murderer not NK,she just liked the psycho
@iau378
@iau378 7 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you theorized here. I am so ecstatic that someone sees NK for what she is. 😢
@juliedaly2381
@juliedaly2381 7 ай бұрын
He entertained dark spirits
@APar-zz7sy
@APar-zz7sy 6 ай бұрын
I think that her (NK) saying "fix the issue with your wife" was code for follow through with the plan to cause the miscarriage. Just my opinion.
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