What If Dumbledore NEVER Put On The Ring? | Harry Potter Film Theory

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Today J dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to explore how the story might have changed if Dumbledore had never put on the Ring, that cursed him to die a year later. Would Snape have committed to the unbreakable vow without prior instructions to kill Dumbledore anyway? Does Dumbledore survive Half-Blood Prince? And what happens to Draco?
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@samruiz7365
@samruiz7365 Жыл бұрын
What if Ron's spell to turn Scabbers yellow on the train to Hogwarts had been successful? Would Petigrew have stayed yellow during and after the events of Prisoner?
@rockk3y413
@rockk3y413 Жыл бұрын
W O W
@kiminimuchu__
@kiminimuchu__ Жыл бұрын
That's hilarious lol
@jump25ontoast
@jump25ontoast Жыл бұрын
Peter always been a yellow belly
@allisonhoff5805
@allisonhoff5805 Жыл бұрын
This is now cannon to me!!
@casper.the.exracer
@casper.the.exracer Жыл бұрын
What if the spell was real but it didn’t work cause he’s an animagus?? Dun dun dun 😂
@zackeryjohnston5757
@zackeryjohnston5757 Жыл бұрын
I think Snape could've talked his way out of the vow by basically saying "if voldemort wanted me to assist Draco he'd tell me to. I won't abide you questioning the dark lords decisions"
@necromancer6405
@necromancer6405 Жыл бұрын
Or the mere fact he doesn't want to help Draco in general. "Apologies, but your family's blunder is not my own, the bed you made must now be lied upon by not me, but your son".
@boldbearings
@boldbearings Жыл бұрын
This is what I expected atm. But Belle used the magic word and called Snape a coward.
@Bexebeche
@Bexebeche Жыл бұрын
@@boldbearings It's Snape, not Marty McFly.
@L337P1R4735
@L337P1R4735 Жыл бұрын
This is the Slytherin answer.
@benelby3480
@benelby3480 Жыл бұрын
What happens if I never take the car in the second year just make it through the gate to the train?
@MrTapet
@MrTapet Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Draco accepted Dumbledore's protection and the Malfoy family was sent to the same place where the Dursleys were. Would have been a pretty awkward arrangement, would definitely watch some of that
@jonathanwat8567
@jonathanwat8567 11 ай бұрын
Would've been really funny to see Dudley and Malfoy bond over their hatred of Potter
@danejohannescaldwell7999
@danejohannescaldwell7999 10 ай бұрын
@@jonathanwat8567 lol, more like a 3-way war, at least to start. Dudley's friction with Harry stems from his parents' antagonism towards all things magical, which would extend to Draco. But Draco and Harry hate each other too. At some point, a 2-vs-1 loose alliance would emerge, but who can say which way would it go?
@Samfortnitegod
@Samfortnitegod 9 ай бұрын
​@@danejohannescaldwell7999 so true
@blackroserevolution3989
@blackroserevolution3989 8 ай бұрын
Draco’s parents hate all things non-magical and Dudley’s parents hate all things magical, they’d be at each other’s throats and so would Draco and Dudley at first, until they realized that they both hate Harry personally more than their bigotry toward each other and they’d form a secret alliance against him, only to be thrown out by both of their families
@spanglelime
@spanglelime 8 ай бұрын
I smell a fanfic 😅
@TheRavensNest
@TheRavensNest Жыл бұрын
Wow, in an instant J brought me to tears, just from his own emotion. That was an unexpectedly strong moment!
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 Жыл бұрын
That was the best moment they've ever had. I replayed it multiple times and was looking for a comment about it. It was beautiful.
@FulcanMal
@FulcanMal Жыл бұрын
No doubt thinking about the life he wants for his kids.
@marie_williams
@marie_williams Жыл бұрын
I was feeling emotional when he mentioned meeting his Mum, and then J got emotional - a great moment.
@tylarjackson7928
@tylarjackson7928 8 ай бұрын
​@@FulcanMalYep. Single father of an 8 year old boy here. It brought me to tears, and I had to go hold my boy for a bit. The love a parent feels for their child is unlike anything else in the world.
@entelechy00
@entelechy00 Жыл бұрын
Besides Dumbledore killing Harry, Harry could also walk through the veil: Harry tells Dumbledore he needs some time to say goodbye and put things in order, but actually goes to the veil. He does it to protect Dumbledore's soul in addition to protecting the world, and so would truly be greeting death as an old friend.
@entelechy00
@entelechy00 Жыл бұрын
About the only way I could see him surviving is possibly help from unexpected angles, like Dobbie (leading all Hogwart's house elves), ghosts, poltergeist or a combination thereof.
@edopronk1303
@edopronk1303 Жыл бұрын
@@entelechy00 I like this. Harry still comes back.
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision Жыл бұрын
@@entelechy00 I don’t get it, how could the ghosts and house elves help in this situation??
@entelechy00
@entelechy00 Жыл бұрын
@@MerkhVision House elf magic is considered more powerful than wizard magic, and if wizard magic becomes more powerful when twin cores are used, imagine if all the wandless magic house elves of Hogwarts joined together. As for the ghosts and/or poltergeists, they might be able to sense the fragment of Voldemort in Harry (since Harry isn't trying to hide it, and there were no spells from Voldemort to cloak and/or protect it) possibly allowing another avenue to attack the fragment without killing Harry.
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 Жыл бұрын
But then he'd have no body to return to.
@ThisUserIsNoLongerAvailable
@ThisUserIsNoLongerAvailable Жыл бұрын
What if Harry never summoned the Knight Bus? Would Sirius tell him the truth? Would they catch Peter sooner or would he escape sooner?
@estforlife575
@estforlife575 Жыл бұрын
Yes we need to know this
@mattfromwiisports4911
@mattfromwiisports4911 Жыл бұрын
YES!!! Pls make this SCB
@naomisrandomness8223
@naomisrandomness8223 Жыл бұрын
That would be interesting, because Harry would recognize him as a criminal from the muggle news, and I don't know if Sirius had his wand. And at that point Harry didn't really care about the law, because he thought he was already a criminal. Although Sirius hadn't been trying to use that encounter to talk to Harry, he just wanted to see him. Although if they did talk, Harry might go on the run with Sirius.
@Cailus3542
@Cailus3542 Жыл бұрын
Harry would have no reason whatsoever to believe Sirius. There would've been no proof and nobody to back Sirius up. Remember: Sirius also has no idea what Harry knows about him. As far as Sirius is aware, Harry believes that he is responsible for betraying James and Lily, and might even recognise him from old photos. Sirius is far too clever and canny to attempt it, given the risk. He could've tried contacting Harry any number of times both before and after to explain the truth, but didn't. Bear in mind that for Sirius, it's a suicide mission. He knows that he will almost certainly die. Whether Harry knows the truth is immaterial; what matters is that Peter dies and Harry is safe. Nothing else matters. It's on!y upon meeting Harry and Remus that Sirius finally finds a reason to live rather than die.
@queerowakultura
@queerowakultura Жыл бұрын
We need this!!!
@jaloperuna
@jaloperuna Жыл бұрын
I can imagine the awkward situation when Harry comes back from the forest and has to tell Dumbledore that he didn't sacrifice himself, but instead killed Voldemort and Nagini and scared away all the death eaters.
@CrowMercury
@CrowMercury Жыл бұрын
I can imagine the Death Eaters seeing their dark lord scoring a whopping 0-4 against a boy who hasn’t even got their NEWT or tried this time and be like “ We get it, no dark revolution universe! “
@adelm7182
@adelm7182 Жыл бұрын
Harry: *accidentally kills Voldemort and Nagini* Deatheaters: *run* Harry: *looks at the camera like Jim in the office, when Jim pushed Andy to punch a hole in the wall*
@ked49
@ked49 Жыл бұрын
Then just kill harry
@hookseybaby
@hookseybaby 8 ай бұрын
@@CrowMercury​all the Death Eaters are just silent for a minute or two and then in unison they're all like "So i guess muggles are alright" lol also i think Bellatrix would need to be dead already as well from Snape's hand like this theory says could happen or some other way cause she aint giving up no matter the cost
@lilahsmith7044
@lilahsmith7044 8 ай бұрын
While this would have been cool it is impossible. The whole point of Harry sacrificing him was to destroy the horcrox inside of him. Without destroying the horcrox Voldemort can’t die. So without Harry sacrificing himself Voldemort would have not died even if Harry tried to kill him.
@nickgood9333
@nickgood9333 Жыл бұрын
As someone who lost their mother far too soon, I fully understand the emotion at that last line. It's tough, but she would want nothing less.
@imnotspeakingenglish
@imnotspeakingenglish 6 ай бұрын
im sorry for your loss
@DDDfootball
@DDDfootball 2 ай бұрын
sorry for your loss
@ghostkaiser1716
@ghostkaiser1716 Жыл бұрын
I'd really think that Harry casts Sacrificial Love for everyone, but meets his family at Kings Cross: Sirius, Remus, James and Lily They sit there and talk for however long they want, just to have that time together, and let Harry choose his path once again. And Harry...I think comes back. He feels happy and renewed once again to live his life to the best and move on, knowing Voldemort was gone forever and he knows that his family and friends will be with him. Always.
@abc4828
@abc4828 Жыл бұрын
I would actually love for Harry to also meet Snape in limbo. Like Sirius, James Lily and Severus all being friendly with eachother and forgiving eachother. Maybe even Peter, if he died like he died in the real story.
@haileysterlala3368
@haileysterlala3368 Жыл бұрын
well remus wouldnt be dead yet right? but i like that
@abc4828
@abc4828 Жыл бұрын
@@haileysterlala3368 Youre right, i removed him
@julianuga
@julianuga Жыл бұрын
100th like
@josephmontoya5104
@josephmontoya5104 Жыл бұрын
HARRY,DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME INTO THE GOBLET OF FIRE!!! AVADA KEDAVRA!!!
@dagarnertn
@dagarnertn Жыл бұрын
I love the idea that Snape secretly bakes banana bread using a family recipe. He probably sells it through a local shop in Hogsmead. I can just picture Snape wearing an apron and matching oven mitts decorated with little muffins!
@WorldWalker128
@WorldWalker128 Жыл бұрын
Apron: "Kiss the cook....unless you're a Dementor"
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 Жыл бұрын
"Hogsmeade".
@daemanuhr
@daemanuhr Жыл бұрын
Welcome to The Banana Bread Prince!
@skyeplaysgames4598
@skyeplaysgames4598 9 ай бұрын
@@daemanuhr Comment of the year
@hookseybaby
@hookseybaby 8 ай бұрын
@@WorldWalker128 that need's to be a thing if it isnt already edit: not a thing yet... you needa trademark that
@erikamohrmann7986
@erikamohrmann7986 Жыл бұрын
It makes me so sad every time I hear of Harry deciding to die. Even in this what-if version it’s so touching and emotional and noble. What a beautiful story
@hookseybaby
@hookseybaby 8 ай бұрын
I think it honestly would have made the books even better... which is incredible considering what the story has accomplished
@JuanMataCFC
@JuanMataCFC 8 ай бұрын
next "what if" - what if Harry chose not to die? 😂
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 Жыл бұрын
You present two options for the unbreakable vow, but there's also a third: Snape just refuse and put Narcissa and Bellatrix out. It's not because he's a spy or anything, he's just a deatheater, he don't care about Drago and would not put his own life at risk by pronouncing a very dangerous spell that apparently even Voldemort doesn't use on his own deatheaters, as none of them died suddenly when they fail, and by intervening in a secret mission that Voldemort gave to Drago to torture him. And Bellatrix would not have found that strange, it's that Snape accepts the vow that she found strange, she was sure he would refuse the vow even before Narcissa presents the idea.
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 Жыл бұрын
Bellatrix suspects his allegiance. His accepting seemingly proves his allegiance to Voldemort by ensuring that such a pivotal thing that Voldemort wants doing is done.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 Жыл бұрын
@@Ranger1812 Yeah, Bellatrix suspects his allegiance, but Voldemort doesn't. So why should he care? It's not like Voldemort listen to anyone but himself XD
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 Жыл бұрын
@@krankarvolund7771 Because she's his second-in-command and it's about doing what's best for Voldemort.
@deborahminter6231
@deborahminter6231 6 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@rebelion160
@rebelion160 6 ай бұрын
@@Ranger1812But she is essentially second guessing Voldemort, who wants Draco to do it by himself. Which can be exploited.
@lmungillo
@lmungillo Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of his parents holding onto him and guiding him from kings cross station through the platform 9 3/4 but that is what sends him back. I feel like leading your child across the platform is a big deal for wizard parents and they never got that opportunity and Harry never got that either. It would be a way for them to finally parent him the way they wanted 😊
@drmprod
@drmprod Жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@olaftheblack2012
@olaftheblack2012 Жыл бұрын
STAHP!!! 😭😭😭
@caitlyncrull953
@caitlyncrull953 Жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. I'm actually trying not to tear up at this
@sarahlynn4721
@sarahlynn4721 Жыл бұрын
The Hufflepuffer has made the Slytherin girl tear up! 😭😭😭 This idea is beautiful and got me right in the feels. I love the imagery of this and it fits perfectly.
@stuartl7761
@stuartl7761 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, my heart! It's perfect
@charlotteherzog5524
@charlotteherzog5524 Жыл бұрын
I really love your theories. Even this one’s great! BUT you overlooked the fact that Harry decided to hide his invisibility cloak and his wand underneath his jacket so he wasn’t tempted to defend himself. I think this would have done the trick and his wand wouldn’t have acted against it’s masters will. In the battle of the 7 Potters Harry is close to unconscious so his wand protects him. But in the woods he willingly sacrifices himself to save the wizarding community
@iRule37
@iRule37 Жыл бұрын
but in that case, harry loves but has no one to cover for him like Narcissa did. so then either Voldemort would just kill him again (idk if it would work or not, he might have someone else do it) or Harry would be forced to attack and it plays out how J outlined except maybe the death eaters are doubting voldemort a bit
@boyankovachev7982
@boyankovachev7982 Жыл бұрын
@iRule37 I love both comments, but to you I say that I don't think Dumbledore would have sent Harry before Nagini is dead, he wouldn't have had the balls to do so, like he isn't able to tell him about anything on time. 😁😁 So, yea. Voldy attacks Harry and dies for real, cuz the Horcrux gets destroyed a second before the spell is reflected at him. One love ❤️
@katymanilla9818
@katymanilla9818 Жыл бұрын
I came here to say just this! Glad I am not the only one who thought this.
@cassiolins1203
@cassiolins1203 Жыл бұрын
Yes, also i think the Battle of Hogwarts itself would have been much more in the good side's favor, since Dumbledore by himself would add so much more power to them. And with that, Voldy wouldn't have the upper hand to pause the battle and call Harry to surrender
@yf-n7710
@yf-n7710 Жыл бұрын
@@iRule37 I think Dumbledore sends Fawkes with Harry, "to give him the strength to do what he needs to do". But really Fawkes is there to protect Harry after the Horcrux is gone, because that bird is really capable, and can even take a killing curse if necessary.
@lorettafarnsworth459
@lorettafarnsworth459 Жыл бұрын
Would love a "what if someone had told Dumbledore what Umbridge was doing to Harry in detention" video.
@Jordan_C_Wilde
@Jordan_C_Wilde Жыл бұрын
"The only one mentally abusing this kid is ME ! You hear that you pink hag ?! CRUCIO !!!"
@Orangeninja5000
@Orangeninja5000 Жыл бұрын
"BREAKING NEWS: Former Supreme Mugwump on the run after disfiguring the Senior Undersecretary to the Minister."
@robinacosta8815
@robinacosta8815 11 ай бұрын
@Orangeninja5000 reports say that the senior undersecretary has been using a Blood Quill to torture students during detention and threatened the Cruciatus Curse saying: "what the minister doesn't know won't hurt him."
@ShriyaditaSS
@ShriyaditaSS 5 ай бұрын
@@Orangeninja5000 Better than anything I could’ve ever imagined 😂
@nicoleraheja8302
@nicoleraheja8302 5 ай бұрын
I’d love that too!! I don’t see Harry going to Dumbledore himself, but Hermione would go and report it to Dumbledore, and maybe also mention what an awful time Harry has been having, I’d love to see Dumbledore’s reaction!
@raulj_m5776
@raulj_m5776 Жыл бұрын
i wouldve loved to see this version as a movie, sounds really wholesome harry meeting his parents at kings cross at the end. i can imagine the final scene: Albus Severus Potter sits down on the stool, Professor McGonnagall Places the Hat on him. After the Hat announces yet another Gryffindor Potter the camera sways to dumbledore sitting at the table ..smiling - The End.
@vjnikm8730
@vjnikm8730 9 ай бұрын
His kids names will be.. James Sirius potter Severus remus potter Lilly molly potter
@quinnworthington3306
@quinnworthington3306 Жыл бұрын
This might be difficult because it'd change the entire story but you should do a "what if Dumbledore hired Tom Riddle to teach defense against the dark arts" video series.
@TheKKiriNN
@TheKKiriNN Жыл бұрын
Yes! That would be very interesting, albeit difficult to predict
@olirothers
@olirothers Жыл бұрын
@@TheKKiriNN if you can give me a single reason or tell me under what circumstances dumbledore could have even considered hiring Riddle, I'd agree, but it seems impossible
@allys8801
@allys8801 Жыл бұрын
@@olirothers Dumbledore wouldn't hire Riddle. But Riddle was told to come back in 10 years by the old headmaster of the school. And he would have hired Tom in the blink of an eye. What if he would have stayed longer?
@rerako4755
@rerako4755 Жыл бұрын
Professor Voldemort tries to get Harry killed in the final exam each year, only for the exam to kill Voldemort. Queue sitcom and repeat 7 times... THE END
@zackbourgault6073
@zackbourgault6073 Жыл бұрын
​@olirothers after the first few years that the position seems cursed seems like giving the position to riddle would either break the curse or break riddle while easier to keep tabs on what he was doing
@laurennsspencer
@laurennsspencer Жыл бұрын
I was already getting emotional at the end there, but seeing J well up with tears really hit the point home 😢thanks for leaving that in the video team SCB ❤
@billysmith5409
@billysmith5409 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Jonathan uses the Potter Puppet Pals version of Snape’s voice it’s hilarious!
@nicks.2612
@nicks.2612 Жыл бұрын
What I always wondered is, if Snape contians the curse in Dumbledores hand couldn't they just cut of his hand and get rid of the curse or at least 98% of the curse. This way he could maybe live longer than just a year and he could get a magical hand like Wormtail.
@brandonmyers5448
@brandonmyers5448 6 ай бұрын
I that’s what I always thought why didn’t they do that my theory is dumbledore wanted to die to make up for his sins
@4rnnr117
@4rnnr117 5 ай бұрын
I don't think magical curses act like bacterial infections
@nicks.2612
@nicks.2612 5 ай бұрын
@@4rnnr117 Maybe not exactly but they did confirm that the curse was "spreading" and Snape only managed to temporarily contain it to his hand though it would still kill just slowly. Meaning the curse "contains" a certain space. Just like it stores inside a cursed object like the ring and via touch can spread to a host, which would imply that getting rid of the cursed parts of the body should help get rid of the curse itslef
@HiopX
@HiopX Жыл бұрын
Well Snape could also have said no to the vow under the argument that this would undermine direct order from Voldemort to Draco. And when Bellatrix tries to pin him down on it, Snape could just ask Voldemort himself if Bellatrix was out of line - or more likely suggest to Bellatrix that he'll discuss that.
@abdullat9264
@abdullat9264 Жыл бұрын
Yeah when Narcissa visits him it seems pretty clear that he knows what she's about to ask of him. If he wasn't planning on doing it anyway then he could've easily steered the conversation away from that.
@hollowfried
@hollowfried Жыл бұрын
This was my exact thought process before Jay even started, especially cuz this was the punishment/test why would moldy want interference
@AustynSN
@AustynSN Жыл бұрын
I was kind of wondering the same thing. I imagined Snape admonishing Bellatrix for her "lack of faith" in both her nephew and Voldemort.
@wrench8149
@wrench8149 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered that too. Easy out for snape would have been to say that making any promises defied Voldemort’s orders. Follow it up with something about undermining or disloyalty.
@Priyankashinde293
@Priyankashinde293 Жыл бұрын
It really doesn’t matter because both voldy and dumbeldore wanted Severus to finish the job anyway, he taking the vow was only to silent bellatrix and narcissa who would have been on his throat the entire year. Read the books people!
@bellaandrews2519
@bellaandrews2519 Жыл бұрын
I think it would go something like this. Harry wakes up surrounded by white, he looked around and found what to be the cleanest kings cross he had ever seen. He saw Remus, Sirius, Fred, and lastly his parents. He smiled, if he could not spend his life with Hermione, Ron, and Ginny, this was the best he could hope for. He had always meant to carry them into death with him. His mother and father smile. Harry wonders for a moment if he could touch them, without another thought as if they had read his mind, they launch for him, holding there son in a tight embrace for the first time in 17 years. Next he was hugged by Sirius and Lupin with a pat on the back from Fred. “Where do we go from here? Is this the end the last place we will go?” Harry asked with a smile as he looks at his mother. “This is an in between” his mother gave a small smile back. “I’m not sure why you picked kings cross Harry, but at least it’s smells better then normal” Sirius barks. “I chose ? Is this all just happening in my head?” Harry looks at the group before him. “It feels so real” he says softly. “It could be real if you chose Harry, you have given up so much. You could choose to stay and move past this place with us.”Lupin ever the professor reply’s. “Or if you so choose Son, you could board a train and live, chose something that takes far more courage and live the life you always should have had, family and friends and no Tom Riddle, no Voldemort.” His father finishing Lupins sentiments. “But all of you-“Harry starts. “Will be with you”he mother interrupts Harry looks over at Fred to behind him where under a bench dust and red remains, rather oddly for such a clean, pure space. Harry looks back to Fred. He feels it for a moment the pant of loss. “What do you think, this is the most quite I have ever seen you” “It’s not for me to choose, you have chosen others since you were a lad Harry. But I think if I could choose to go back, to Mum and Dad, to George, Ginny, Ron and Hermione along with the rest of that crazy lot, I would. I feel peace here happiness, that would be doubled by you, that I’m sure you would feel more over then me, but life is moving and I no long move with it. You could. Isn’t that what really defeats Voldemort, really defeats death.” Fred says. Harry thinks for a long moment. He looks at his mother, her sweet face and green eyes, his eyes. She smiles “it’s okay love, we will wait for you.” His father nods and Remus and Sirius smile. Fred looks at him, thinks for a moment “tell them I love them.” “And Harry, tell Percy I don’t blame him.” Harry nods and with one last look at his parents, his family, he boards the Hogwarts express to head home one more time.
@SailorBleachNaruto
@SailorBleachNaruto Жыл бұрын
❤ the only note I have is that I would’ve wanted there to be more interaction with each who came to see Harry.
@natasha6113
@natasha6113 Жыл бұрын
I teared up reading this. 😢
@randomboys1000
@randomboys1000 Жыл бұрын
but fred didn't die in this scenario
@lunatardisflyer102
@lunatardisflyer102 Жыл бұрын
Jees that made me sad❤️
@lunatardisflyer102
@lunatardisflyer102 Жыл бұрын
@@randomboys1000 no it was George who didn't lose an ear. They never said Fred didn't die
@bookworm3005
@bookworm3005 9 ай бұрын
As a new mom, I started tearing up with J at the end. It adds a whole new depth to see things from a parent's perspective 💕
@AstroPC96
@AstroPC96 Жыл бұрын
You guys should totally make "What If Neville was the Chosen One?" It would be interesting to see the events unfold from his point of view!
@Tytoalba777
@Tytoalba777 11 ай бұрын
well well well
@hookseybaby
@hookseybaby 8 ай бұрын
great call (insert applause)
@kindlin
@kindlin 6 ай бұрын
I think what the other 2 posters are getting at is.... they did.
@kelticserenity
@kelticserenity Жыл бұрын
The emotion you had at the end can only come from a parent, You are a good father and i think you felt this episode a bit more close to the heart. :) Much respect Mr. Carlin.
@auril615
@auril615 11 ай бұрын
my first thought too. only as a parent you can truly understand Lily and know that you would - as she did - do absolutely everything to protect your kids
@APotterheadAndASwiftie
@APotterheadAndASwiftie Жыл бұрын
Your impression of Snape was equally hilarious as your impressions of Luna!! 🤣🤣🤣
@ndkndlvlsvls
@ndkndlvlsvls Жыл бұрын
My favorite fan-fictions often has Dumbledore bashing (bc he deserves it) but you managed to make him sweet even in this terrible circumstance. Excellent writing, and your right really emotional ending. I personally think it would be cool if harry got a second chance afterwards. (I know he isn’t the master of death in this one but just go along with it) He woke up. He’s ten again, soon eleven, he knew this, almost like an instinct. Suddenly someone was knocking on his door, “Harry get up, you need to eat breakfast. We have a big day ahead of us, Padfoot and Moony will be here in less than half an hour.” a male voice said while continuing the rhythmic tapping. Harry had never really heard that voice but he knew who it was instantly. He got up and rushed toward the it. Could it be true? he thought. Slamming the door open, almost hitting his head in the process, he saw him. Although fuzzy without his glasses he could make out the raven black hair, glasses and loving but surprised smile on the man lips. “Dad!” He said excitedly, Harry rushed towards the 30 year old, crushing his arms around him needing to feel his realness. “I didn’t think you were this thrilled to go to the zoo, but good morning to you too.” James laughed out as someone else was approaching. Harry turn to look to at her, still holding on to his dad. He couldn’t make out her face, being so far apart, but of course it was her. Unmoving he watched she, with long red hair and a blue flowy dress, came nearer. “Oh Harry, here you go.” Muttering a spell under her breath, a pair of glasses flew into her hands. Kneeling down to his hight, she put the glasses on his face and cupped his cheeks. “Now you see me” she said with adoration. And he did, her contagious smile, the emergence of some wrinkles and her green eyes meeting his. An overwhelming feeling of relief, love and grief hit him. Was it finally over? The playful glint in her eyes changed into a look of concern when he began crying. “Aww, it’s okay, you’re safe” his parents echoed, engulfing him in a hug. His tears turned into sobs and Harry just let all of the pain flow out of him. As his tears run out the feeling of victory and exhaustion took over. His parents were probably confused or just assumed Harry had had a bad dream, which he supposed was true. A very long and terrifying nightmare. Still he was certain that it had been real. As a hand carded through his hair while another was massaging his back he remembered how ready he had been to die, how much he wanted it, what felt like just a few minutes ago. Now all he wanted was to stay here where he could live, truly live. He reached up towards his forehead, feeling around for his scar, but didn’t find it. His parents weren’t lying, he was safe,… he was free.
@LorettaAntonino
@LorettaAntonino Жыл бұрын
I literally just had this conversation yesterday 😂 Dumbledore could basically see every move (or 10) before it happened and therefore putting the ring on and the curse seems like an odd mistake for him. Yet without that act, the plot changes completely. It had to happen.
@bigfuzzydice8544
@bigfuzzydice8544 Жыл бұрын
I like to think if Harry had to pick a way to kill himself he’d walk through the veil in the Department or Mysteries the way Sirius died, instead of just letting Dumbledore finish him off at Hogwarts. This would also lead to a scenario where all his friends can watch him walk on to the after life and it would still be a really emotional scene. I only say this because I don’t believe he would be able to actually come back from death this time no matter what method he picks.
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
I actually like that reply a lot better like we could skip forward a little bit and maybe he's reading a letter Dumbledore sent him explaining the situation and he hasn't replied to it yet but he's finally making the decision and just heads off to the department of mysteries or maybe finally writes back saying yes and organizes some big goodbye party or whatever
@caimanaraujo479
@caimanaraujo479 Жыл бұрын
And that could lead to a spin off where harry rescues sirius from wherever they are, but in the end conform to their deaths
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
@@caimanaraujo479 Harry Potter and the afterlife veil
@lucixthedevil
@lucixthedevil Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea, adding onto that, even if he could come back, I don't think it would apply to the veil. I always assumed that Harry's body needed to stay in the mortal realm and intact, or rather, the living side of the veil, to come back. So, I would assume that Harry would only be able to come back if he died via avada kedavra
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
@@lucixthedevil yeah I'd agree with that I don't think anyone can come back from the veil and you're right that's probably because they literally walk through it
@alexshapiro6815
@alexshapiro6815 Жыл бұрын
I really thought when J said “I’m gonna steal a passage from Goblet of Fire” he was going to immediately follow it up with “HARRY DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE?”
@emmasilver2332
@emmasilver2332 Жыл бұрын
Dumbledore asked calmly
@orangecitrus8056
@orangecitrus8056 Жыл бұрын
Crucio crucio avada kedavra - Dumbledore
@BigSidVicious
@BigSidVicious Жыл бұрын
I don't think Malfoy would have been able to disarm Dumbledore if Dumbledore knew this plot. I think assuming that Malfoy would still disarm Dumbledore is false.
@FinDi90
@FinDi90 Жыл бұрын
Hearing the real emotion in his voice (plus what was being said) almost made me tear up.
@DreadKyller
@DreadKyller Жыл бұрын
The wand and the user share a connection, which is stated in no uncertain terms many times. If Harry had gone to Voldemort, willing to die, and knowingly, willingly, consciously not going to even try putting up a fight, I have extreme doubts the wand would have acted like it did in the battle of the seven Potters. Also Harry had his wand in his pocket in the books, as again, he was willingly walking into death and didn't even want the temptation to try fighting back.
@Arkios64
@Arkios64 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. He specifically thinks about the wand being there and not using it, which has no reason to be not the case in this scenario.
@miyannapittman5580
@miyannapittman5580 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment! The wand is clearly aware of Harry's emotions and intentions, so its presence, even in his hand, should be irrelevant. Although I think if Harry was trying to die he may not have bothered even taking his wand out, but leaving it in his robes even without knowing about the wands' connection.
@sentientmustache8360
@sentientmustache8360 Жыл бұрын
@@miyannapittman5580 the wand might have levitated out and fired anyways, the safest option is to leave it behind at the castle
@NotAnotherDouc-
@NotAnotherDouc- Жыл бұрын
I agree and just commented along the same lines. No reason to believe Harry doesn’t put his wand away here, and there definitely isn’t a reason to think the wand would act of it’s own accord without it at least in his hand (J even says as much in this video, that as long as it’s in his hand it would react). So I agree 100% - Harry’s wand is away, leaving the remainder of the story essentially just like the original but with Dumbledore there to party along with everyone else.
@DreadKyller
@DreadKyller Жыл бұрын
@@sentientmustache8360 While possible there's simply no evidence to support it or reason to suppose it should happen. Even if the wand was capable or doing something like that which there's no precedence for in the lore, I strongly don't believe the wand would even if it could, because again in the words of Ollivander, the wand and the owner form a symbiotic relationship, they become an extension of each other, the owner learning from the want, the wand from the owner. The wand, even if it could act, almost certainly wouldn't go against it's owners conscious and willing acceptance and desire not to fight. I guess it's possible considering Holly wood is considered protective and Phoenix cores can sometimes show their own initiative or act of it's own accord. However none of the wand's characteristics show it as being remotely rebellious. I see no reason to expect the wand would completely, outright go completely against it's owners wishes, even were it in his hand. In the instance we see the wand act of it's own accord Harry was not willing to die and was just prior actively fighting, and Harry himself in that instance was unable to act for himself, the wand itself finds itself in a very different circumstance than in this video.
@AmTrFilms
@AmTrFilms Жыл бұрын
They need to hire these guys to make a Harry Potter version of What if...
@joimumu
@joimumu Жыл бұрын
Or book 8 and make the cursed child officially none canon
@mecoat1103
@mecoat1103 Жыл бұрын
I love these theories! Total side note but I had a thought that the Maurauders Map may have been created with the Quill of Acceptance, which is HOW it knows/can track people. The Quill KNOWS who is magical and was somehow able to add them to the map.
@emilyberger48
@emilyberger48 Жыл бұрын
He takes the vow and doesn’t kill Dumbledore until he’s on his death bed because the vow doesn’t give a time limit
@orphanprince5926
@orphanprince5926 Жыл бұрын
I've seen this on another channel and I think it'd be cool to see your take on it. "What if Dudley Dursley was a Wizard"? So many aspects of it would be so interesting to explore. Dudley being woefully out of his element, how he and his parents would react to Harry's wealth and fame, the House he'd be in and how his housemates would react to him, etc.
@thedragonwarrior5861
@thedragonwarrior5861 Жыл бұрын
It would definitely be interesting. After all, his hatred of the Wizarding Eorld was brought on by his mother's envy and his father's loading of anything unusual. He would definitely change much earlier, perhaps even book 1
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
@@thedragonwarrior5861 it would definitely complicate his relationship with his parents though I mean we know that Vernon was willing to accept petunia even with her magical heritage kind of not which is actually really wholesome but if there's some started to show magic how would they react the channel the original Siri was on Harry Potter folklore said that both parents would be super happy for him and excited about it but I could maybe buy that for petunia I don't buy that for Vernon they're both coddling him basically to spite Harry but would him being magical trigger Petunia's old jealousy or would she be happy for him and would Vernon be able to accept him with magical blood or would he not and if he doesn't and petunia does would that split the two of them up
@yawninglion1677
@yawninglion1677 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Dursleys would even allow him to go to Hogwarts. Like, Harry was being protected by Hagrid, but Dudley? They wouldn't want their son to grow up as a "freak" and may have tried to keep him in Smeltings, which could've turned him into an obscurus.
@lahlybird895
@lahlybird895 Жыл бұрын
@@yawninglion1677 I think it all depends on petunia for instance if petunias actually excited for him since it's her son it could end up with there being a conflict between the two parents if she's not and she's completely on Vernon side then I agree but I'm sure Hogwarts would send something to get him as well I don't think they have uvscureals the Great Britain side of things since most kids get to go to Hogwarts whether their parents are okay with it or not with the big exception of Ariana of course
@yawninglion1677
@yawninglion1677 Жыл бұрын
@@lahlybird895 True. I just wonder how it would've gone down if Hagrid tried to take both boys at once, though maybe you're right and maybe Petunia would've actually wanted him to go so that he could live the life she was denied.
@katholmes7112
@katholmes7112 Жыл бұрын
If Dumbledore had just broken the Elder Wand, Voldemort seeking it would never be an issue. Man, imagine how things would change if Dumbledore could resist temptation completely, broke the wand, never borrowed the invisibility cloak, and never put on the ring? How would his long-term plans for Harry's life have changed.
@audreybourgeois4626
@audreybourgeois4626 Жыл бұрын
What would have happened to the cloak if Dumbledore hadn't borrowed it? Would it have been destroyed? Would it be put in Harry's vault for him? Would it be lying in Godric's Hollow to this very day?
@katholmes7112
@katholmes7112 Жыл бұрын
If they'd had the cloak, would the Potters have even died?
@DreadKyller
@DreadKyller Жыл бұрын
@@audreybourgeois4626 Would it have possibly helped Lily survive Voldemort's attack if was still with them even. James was killed because they were unprepared, didn't expect Voldemort, but he held off Voldemort even so just long enough for Lily to get to Harry, if the cloak had been available, would she have possible been able to make use of it I wonder.
@brookchristy8311
@brookchristy8311 Жыл бұрын
@@katholmes7112yes, because they wouldn't have had time to get it and put it on.
@kiminimuchu__
@kiminimuchu__ Жыл бұрын
Could the wand even be broken? Yes, I know in the movie Harry breaks the wand like it's just a random twig (a scene that I've always despised), but in the book that's the Elder Wand, the wand of wands, one would think the wand might backfire or turn against its master if it senses they're trying to break it. In the wands lore presented in Pottermore it's stated that wands can become tempermental and turn against their master depending on the circumstamce.
@nothydrostorm6711
@nothydrostorm6711 Жыл бұрын
I think Harry would not truly die, but he would meet his parents, Remus, and Sirius in the station. After a brief discussion, he is called from further down the station, and is met with Snape, who (I know it’s weird) embraces him, and explains the dumbledore stuff that’s in the canon story
@LizLuvsCupcakes
@LizLuvsCupcakes 7 ай бұрын
"Get out of here, Potter, you have more things to ruin and people to annoy."
@olandir
@olandir 5 ай бұрын
I agree, as long as Harry is sacrificing himself for others, then he won't truly die. He'll meet some of the others in the afterlife and then choose to come back. He'll open his eyes and see Dumbledore smiling down at him, and Dumbledore will explain the gamble he made.
@LizLuvsCupcakes
@LizLuvsCupcakes 5 ай бұрын
@@olandir "I can hardly believe that worked!" "Sir, not that I’m not curious, but can I sleep before the last exposition?"
@stephenjones8725
@stephenjones8725 Жыл бұрын
Y’all have put together some doozies over the years, and I have loved every single one of them, but this one definitely hit a different kind of way. I was getting choked up at the end there, too, J. Well done, sirs. Well done.
@jonbilgutay2
@jonbilgutay2 Жыл бұрын
Here's a what if. What if Petunia refused to take Harry in?
@spookyblush-speedruns
@spookyblush-speedruns Жыл бұрын
Harry get's dropped off at an orphanage by the Dursley's. All hail Dark Lord Harry Potter.
@rocksnrolls
@rocksnrolls Жыл бұрын
Warning. Pretty dark Harry dies cold and alone on the doorstep outside of number 4 privet drive, as the dursleys had a lie in and didn't hear baby Harry.
@blesskurunai9213
@blesskurunai9213 Жыл бұрын
@@rocksnrolls I mean that wouldn't be possible because of the prophecy
@rocksnrolls
@rocksnrolls Жыл бұрын
@@blesskurunai9213 like Dumbledore says about voldemort, you put too much stock into the prophecy. I'm kidding, but Harry can die to other people and from other causes
@harleykiriluk1556
@harleykiriluk1556 Жыл бұрын
@@blesskurunai9213 not necessarily. The prophecy could've referred to either harry or Neville so I'm thinking if Harry died then we wouldn't have watched and read Harry Potter and the sorcerer's stone but Neville long bottom and the sorcerer's stone.
@cgogaming6456
@cgogaming6456 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting the end to be this emotional, but im glad it is. I'm also glad to have had the opportunity to watch your videos/theories this year and I promise you. We will still be watching. Thank you!
@watso059
@watso059 Жыл бұрын
Well…you had me tearing up at the end as well…😢…didn’t think it was possible watching a HP theory vid, but here we are…this story has had a major impact on my life as well. I grew up with them and re-read all 7 every year…fantastic video!! Love you guys and your content!
@GreebleClown
@GreebleClown Жыл бұрын
I think Snape would have been able to talk his way out of making the vow. Something something “I will not go against the decisions of the Dark Lord.” Sure, Belatrix would be suspicious of him, but she was already suspicious and the vow didn’t really do much to change that anyway.
@stevengordon2363
@stevengordon2363 Жыл бұрын
So basically we would be switching one childhood trauma for a different one and still need the sponsorship of betterhelp to get us through it
@brittanybowen2504
@brittanybowen2504 Жыл бұрын
Those were parent tears at the end there! As a mom of two toddlers, I felt that too! Lol Harry meeting his mom at the train station would break me.
@katierenee5699
@katierenee5699 Жыл бұрын
Hearing you get emotional like that was honestly the most heartwarming thing and I love you two even more for it
@hamsbyyams
@hamsbyyams Жыл бұрын
Dude I love how emotional you got at the end over thinking about Harry having that moment with his deceased mother. I too get choked up over same kind of things! You just got a heart my man and theres nothing wrong with letting it show!
@zachw28
@zachw28 Жыл бұрын
That was an emotional ending. Well done guys
@theoraexplora
@theoraexplora Жыл бұрын
this has been my favourite of the HP videos in a while, especially because i think it solves a few of the redemption arc issues in the latter books (Snape and Dumbledore) whilst also keeping Grindelwald out of the picture and sparring us Her screenwriting. TOP TIER, love the heart of this one
@Jony5173
@Jony5173 Жыл бұрын
You tearing up at the end was the most wholesome thing ever. That made me cry!
@harmonydesroches
@harmonydesroches Жыл бұрын
I love that J got choked up at the end. I often do that. It's nice to see I'm not the only one.
@gioppoler
@gioppoler Жыл бұрын
sometimes i think i have some underlying mental health issues when the only thing i take from these videos is that ben and J are fit
@thatpjonerd9193
@thatpjonerd9193 Жыл бұрын
Omg I died reading this 😂 Ur not wrong tho ❤
@mayhemx9
@mayhemx9 Жыл бұрын
They do seem that way
@colormetakenaback
@colormetakenaback Жыл бұрын
lol wasn't expecting that ending 😆😆
@TheKlabim
@TheKlabim Жыл бұрын
But Frodo never gave Dumbledore the ring?!
@agustinfranco0
@agustinfranco0 Жыл бұрын
you are thinking of Goku, Ash's pokemon, but this isnt star wars
@bzell7728
@bzell7728 Жыл бұрын
@@agustinfranco0 Lol
@drionMINECRAFT
@drionMINECRAFT Жыл бұрын
thats lord of the rings...
@FlashKillerX
@FlashKillerX 10 ай бұрын
I love these what if scenarios, hands down my favorite type of HP content! Keep it up!
@HighlightMedia
@HighlightMedia 4 ай бұрын
Love all of your different What If videos but this one was definitely one of the best and most interesting ones. Thanks for the great content, as always!
@sophies5961
@sophies5961 Жыл бұрын
If Dumbledore casts the killing curse at Harry who has just protected himself with the sacrificial love (definitely hope he would see his parents. Both of them. I think James gets a short stick in the main story too often) and he gets to come back... would the killing curse reflect back and kill Dumbledore like it did to Voldemort when Harry was a baby? How awful would thay be. Harry opens his eyes. He sits up. Amazed to find himself in the warmly lit room of Dumbledore's office once more. "Sir. I saw my parents!" He gets up and as Dumbledore comes into view behind his desk Harry's heart drops. He was still sitting there. Wand in hand. Eyes unseeing. A tear still on his cheek. He was dead. Click bait title. Harry kills Dumbledore
@SomeGuy-ty7kr
@SomeGuy-ty7kr Жыл бұрын
I just had this exact idea! I think it's a suitably dramatic way for the story to end, and it kind of tidies everything back to how it "should" be.
@randomboys1000
@randomboys1000 Жыл бұрын
that wouldn't happen. the circumstances are different. it didn't even happen to voldemort the second time around
@stkyriakoulisdr
@stkyriakoulisdr Жыл бұрын
I'd like to propose a slightly different ending on this hypothetical scenario, in which the ownership of the Deathly Hallows plays a part. It boils down to two key changes in the story of the video: 1) Harry and Dumbledore are in the process of destroying the real locket. As in the original series, it fights back with mind games. At this point, Harry is still pretty much Dumbledore's sidekick. Since the greatest Wizard is alive, Harry is not the leader of the fight against Voldemort. His willpower is not that strong. Therefore, he is an easy target with for the, that manages to convince him that Dumbledore simply uses him as a pawn and shield against his personal vendetta against the Dark Lord. Dumbledore tries to help Harry but he is in a tantrum. The horcrux has connected with the piece of Voldemort inside his soul, and in an unexpected burst of raw Dark-Lord-like power, he disarms his Headmaster. And there Harry stands, wand raised, ready to utter the spell that in his mind feels it will give him so much satisfaction. He is the Chosen One after all... It is only after Ron and Hermione, present during this event, step in and place the bodies between Harry and Dumbledore, that he snaps out of the Horecrux's spell and realizes what has happened. Afraid, ashamed, and feeling like a trator, Harry picks up Dumbledore's wand and gives it back to the stunned Professor. Unknowingly to him, the Elder Wand has now switched masters. ---- 2) We are now at the scene where Harry has chosen to be killed by Dumbledore. Dumbledore raises his wand and whispers the killing curse. The boy falls down motionless. ... At King's Cross Station, his parents await for him for the first time in his life. Or is it his death? "Is this all real? Or is it just happening inside my head?" he asks his mother after their long talk. "Of course it's happening inside your head, sweaty. Why should that mean that it's not real?" Lily replies. "Son, I think it's time you took the train" says James with a bittersweet yet firm tone. ... Next thing Harry feels is Fawkes' mourning song echoing in the background. He is still at Dumbledore's office. But how? He opens his eyes and attempts to get up. To his surprise, he hears Dumbledore's voice speaking in a calm, satisfied tone: "Now you have bested me twice, Harry. Congratulations. And this time, you succeeded where I tried for years in vein." "Professor, what do you mean? How am I alive? Again... And what is it I succeeded on?" "Do you know about the rules of wand ownership, Harry? I should think not. Very well let me explain." ... "So you see, after our little skirmish during the destruction of the locket, you became the master of my very own wand. I should have realized that. It seems, my pride and lure of this wand took the better of me once again. I could never have thought that I would lose this particular item to one of my dearest persons. Regardless, I elected to raise your wand against you today. But a wand cannot be used to harm its own true master. Certainly not this particular wand. And certainly not when this Master is the master of all three items. The curse was never enough to actually kill you. But it had an effect on you, alright: The curse may had been cast onto a single body, but in this body there was also a soul that did not belong to its Master. The killing curse fulfilled its purpose. Voldemort's soul is no more. You are free. We all are." Harry paused, trying to grasp what has happened. "But Professor, even if I am the master of your wand, how is it possible for a spell to destroy a Horcrux? Souldn't its vessel, my body, be destroyed in order to achieve that?" "You are correct. It is not possible for an ordinary wand to do that. Only... Well, I think it's time you learnt about the Deathly Hallows. This is a story linked with me for almost my entire life, and few people in this world know its full extend. But after what happened today, I think you have more than earned your right to know my secrets, my dear boy." And then Dumbledore explains the Hallows. He tells him about his youth, his relationship with Grindelvald, although he leaves out the part of how he ultimately got the Elder Wand. Then, he tells him about the resurrection stone and the clock - all three of them now belonging to Harry. "You see Harry, people, myself included, have always assumed that mere ownership of the Hallows would give one the power to win over Death. You have now proved that this is not enough. One also needs a power much more potent to greet Death as their equal. A power of which you have plenty. Like your mother, 17 years ago, today you sacrificed yourself to save everyone. And you once again cheated death. You truly are the Boy Who Lived. You truly are the Master of Death.
@olirothers
@olirothers Жыл бұрын
cba reading all that
@olirothers
@olirothers Жыл бұрын
just kidding loved it was deep
@stkyriakoulisdr
@stkyriakoulisdr Жыл бұрын
@@olirothers thanks
@DarthSanguine
@DarthSanguine Жыл бұрын
*sweety. Sweaty means covered in sweat. Also, him taking the train would've sent him to the afterlife, not away from it. Also also, *cloak, not clock. Clocks are for telling time.
@sarahcreamer5116
@sarahcreamer5116 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this what if and how you laid everything out. I have to say I got choked up at the end as well, because that truly is all Lily ever wanted for Harry to live a life without Voldemort.
@dramaturge231
@dramaturge231 Жыл бұрын
I love this! I’m not sure that the confrontation between Harry and Tom in the forest would have resulted in Tom becoming incorporeal again, though.
@KauthicDreamings
@KauthicDreamings Жыл бұрын
Remember how Arthur got stitches? What if Dumbledore got an amputation? Would he have been safe because he got rid of the part infected by the curse?
@thedragonwarrior5861
@thedragonwarrior5861 Жыл бұрын
I believe so, as Snape definitely said that it was contained in his hand, and if it were removed then it couldn't spread. At least, I think so
@wilfred8327
@wilfred8327 Жыл бұрын
That makes sense
@randomboys1000
@randomboys1000 Жыл бұрын
no. his entire soul was cursed. just the physical part of it was contained to his hand. cutting it off wouldn't change anything
@yawninglion1677
@yawninglion1677 Жыл бұрын
@@randomboys1000 What if he got a Dementor's kiss? The cursed soul would be gone. I mean sure he'd still barely be himself but would he survive?
@randomboys1000
@randomboys1000 Жыл бұрын
@@yawninglion1677 i guess? but he'd be totally useless and on death's door at that point
@navassino
@navassino Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! The emotional part is the reason we all support you, you love the story as much as we do!
@atlashollows7512
@atlashollows7512 Жыл бұрын
Love J's emotional moment at the end! After 20+ years HP still gives me all the feels too!!
@THELIFEOFVIEWS1
@THELIFEOFVIEWS1 Жыл бұрын
The way y’all come up with these theories is amazing
@mohammedyousef4005
@mohammedyousef4005 Жыл бұрын
I accidentally read the title as "what if dumbeldore put on the one ring"
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 Жыл бұрын
This is why I love SCB. I come home from school, check KZfaq, and immediately get a thumbnail that says "Dumbledore Kills Harry". I love the What Ifs on this channel, but Jesus.
@libbyann78
@libbyann78 6 ай бұрын
love the Weasley compilation idea, and "pro tip number whatever" make me laugh! Amazing work as usual!
@rikkusemerald6800
@rikkusemerald6800 Жыл бұрын
I feel that if Dumbledore were to kill Harry in that way, he would meet the same fate Voldemort did when Lilly sacrificed herself. If the spell did in fact, kill Harry, the soul inside him would manifest and take over his body. Dumbledore would have to use the sword on him to destroy it.
@Jellybelly98
@Jellybelly98 5 ай бұрын
This would kill the vessel that holds the horcrux. in the books it is never tested if the killing curse could destroy the horcrux in Nagini but I believe it would. the main reason Voldermort has to kill Harry is so that Harry has THE CHANCE to survive. Dumbledoor doesn't know for sure until after it happens that it will work, he just has an educated guess that harry will survive.
@someone__something
@someone__something Жыл бұрын
These “what if” retellings are always so thoughtfully played out I really feel like they add so many interesting pieces to the story and are extremely well done!
@mellow3995
@mellow3995 Жыл бұрын
I can't even with the Snape voice, it is HILARIOUS!
@danieldoyle6681
@danieldoyle6681 4 ай бұрын
Its amazing how invested you guys have become in these characters
@victoriasjoberg5012
@victoriasjoberg5012 Жыл бұрын
I love this What If concept I hope you do more of these in the future
@alexsnider2056
@alexsnider2056 Жыл бұрын
What if Harry never won the Tri-Wizard tournament? Would Valdemort still have come back without Harry being in the grave yard?
@connorobrien8763
@connorobrien8763 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite Harry Potter theory yet. And I personally think that he does truly die, but he still meets his parents at Kings Cross to bring them to the other side.
@analoghabits9217
@analoghabits9217 Жыл бұрын
I love how in the war between the best & worst parts of snape, his heart cleaves through for the critical battles.
@spicyboy2722
@spicyboy2722 Жыл бұрын
First video of your channel and I love the intro so much😂 amazing content! Down the Harry Potter rabbit hole I go!
@eranshachar9954
@eranshachar9954 Жыл бұрын
I love it! I think Harry would have given the chance to return just like in the original story. It was an awful mistake on Dumbledore's behalf to put it on. I was sad that Dumbledore died but also loved the irony. Think about it- All his life Voldemort wanted to kill his greatest enemy, the one he feared from the most because of his immense power and skill which was probably equal or above himself. He killed Dumbledore directly and not directly. Directly because the curse he put on the ring was killing Dumbledore anyway even if Snape didn't shorted his agony. And not directly because the curse was a general magical protection and not one that is meant purely to Albus Dumbledore.
@Efflee
@Efflee Жыл бұрын
In the books when Harry went into the forest knowing he was about to sacrifice himself he didn't want to even hold he wand, we didn't want to be tempted, so I don't think he would hold it in this scenario either. But if it were to come to this, then yes I think Harry would be able to keep living ^^
@mollychankawaii
@mollychankawaii Жыл бұрын
This was a super emotional video. I like these "What If" videos a lot.
@richardfarrell9253
@richardfarrell9253 Жыл бұрын
musta watched 100 of your vids and this one is the one that finally gave me watery eyes
@jarandom181
@jarandom181 Жыл бұрын
I love the ending that Harry sees his mom at King's Cross and now I'm choked up too 😢Soooo good as always
@naolmstead
@naolmstead Жыл бұрын
The hardest part of this version of the story to believe is that Dumbledore gives Harry a choice in the end. That seems counter to so much of Dumbledore's years of planning things from the shadows as it were.
@anvos658
@anvos658 Жыл бұрын
Giving Harry the choice doesn't mean Dumbledore couldn't be lying and planning on killing Harry if he choses the wrong answer that doesn't give him the chance to survive.
@angelaphsiao
@angelaphsiao Жыл бұрын
The whole point of giving him a choice is so that he can activate the sacrificial magic that might give him a chance to live. There’s no way Dumbledore wouldn’t take that chance. Besides, he knows Harry and is probably already sure he would agree. And even if Harry chose to live its not like there is much existential danger in Voldemort returning, when all his horcruxes are gone and is one Harry away from being fully mortal.
@potofgold5074
@potofgold5074 Жыл бұрын
I love SCB theories because they seemingly cover everything!! I was just thinking about how this fit with the prophecy, and then they addressed that too!! Amazing!!
@realstarling7279
@realstarling7279 Жыл бұрын
Wow! You even almost made me cry at the end. 🥺
@rajaryan4424
@rajaryan4424 Жыл бұрын
Man these what ifs are really fun
@matthewscott3689
@matthewscott3689 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Dumbledore would have allowed Draco to get the upper hand on him if he wasn’t already dying. Even though weakened and without a wand I’m sure Dumbledore had plenty of magical tricks up his sleeve. But because he was dying, he just let it all happen, without trying to escape or defend himself. So that scenario would not have played out the same way. Snape wouldn’t have had to make the choice, Dumbledore would have survived. Despite wanting to save Draco, Dumbledore would have known he was more valuable alive than Draco was.
@victoriagillerlain
@victoriagillerlain Жыл бұрын
This one got me a little chocked up. Well done team, as always!
@gracewiley3975
@gracewiley3975 Жыл бұрын
You made me cry J. That’s impressive, I rarely ever cry
@mistybenjamin9009
@mistybenjamin9009 Жыл бұрын
We need a whole series of "What If" videos from you guys.
@lettucewrap1676
@lettucewrap1676 Жыл бұрын
I can honestly imagine harry being given the choice to go back but deciding not to. At this point he would’ve been really tired of life and would’ve thought that everyone he gets close to dies and so would chose to stay dead. Also he would get to be with his parents and Sirius (idk if lupin was already dead at this point)
@lucasplayspolo
@lucasplayspolo Жыл бұрын
wow, i normally hit the like button on every youtube video I watch, but this time, after i finished this one and began to move onto the next video, i realized that I hadn’t liked this one yet. I’ve never felt a video more deserving of a like than this one. Bravo for an amazing piece of storytelling, I almost cried 👏
@TattooPirate
@TattooPirate Жыл бұрын
loved the touch of emotion at the end i feel it
@bobmartin7717
@bobmartin7717 Жыл бұрын
By getting the option from Dumbledore I think that the sacrifice option kicks in like it did in the actual series.
@mimihudson5000
@mimihudson5000 Жыл бұрын
Hi you guys do the best film theory's ever 💗
@arriannaniv
@arriannaniv Жыл бұрын
Aww your little choking up at the end there😢❤
@spanna2k6
@spanna2k6 Жыл бұрын
Literally just cried at work because you nearly cried. Such a good video! And very plausible!
@KnowledgeIsRandom
@KnowledgeIsRandom Жыл бұрын
Why does Snape have to accept the unbreakable vow or fight bella? Why not just decline? Don't they think that he is their spy anyways?
@abc4828
@abc4828 Жыл бұрын
He could just alter his wording and only swear to protect draco and not to help draco kill dumbledore. That would mean Snape has now to look after two teenage boys…
@sparkdaudios
@sparkdaudios Жыл бұрын
I agree -- however, Bellatrix is already suspicious of Snape, and I think that J is coming from the angle of, "if Snape declines, then his cover is ruined," --- ...which may not be the case, but that assumption is honestly the most relevant one, meaning it is the assumption that they are going to go with. Reason being, is that there are certainly many different scenarios for each film theory, and if you choose the least relevant one, it opens an entire "can" for lack of better words, of potential plot holes that they may miss.
@KnowledgeIsRandom
@KnowledgeIsRandom Жыл бұрын
@@sparkdaudios I thought that too, and at the end it doesn't matter as this is a "what if." I think I came to this video expecting that Snape would not take the vow as Albus is not dying from the curse.
@DreadKyller
@DreadKyller Жыл бұрын
In a way, but in the scene Bellatrix is throwing immense doubt on Snape's character and when Snape says he'll be on their side Bellatrix offers the unbreakable vow as a form of proof. If Snape was truly on their side he'd not have much reason to reject the proposal other than self preservation. If Snape doesn't accept the vow it's a bit telling that his allegiance may not truly be to Voldemort, or at the very least he values his life more than his service to Voldemort. To Bellatrix, who is absurdly abscessed with serving Voldemort that would be enough to confirm her doubts, and she would likely relay her feeling that Snape isn't on their side. Voldemort doesn't like anyone, but he does respect Bellatrix for her unquestionable, unwavering loyalty, and her belief that Snape is not on their side would carry some weight. Even if Voldemort continued to believe Snape his, he would have doubts from then on. Snape's position as a spy really relied on him being very trusted. I don't think Snape would be required to fight, but rejecting the vow would have really angered Bellatrix and likely compromised his position as a spy.
@nicholasmasson5868
@nicholasmasson5868 Жыл бұрын
I was fine until the end! 😭 Harry meeting his mom at KingsCross has me in tears 😭wouldve been the cutest scene ever ❤️
@ashleystrong2104
@ashleystrong2104 5 ай бұрын
I love that J’s impersonation of Snape is that of Squidward’s voice
@bobbehwitchie
@bobbehwitchie Жыл бұрын
These What Ifs are absolutely perfect. I got a little misty in the eyes. I can't wait for more.
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