Fun fact: Due to either censorship or mistranslation, in the german dub of the anime, Team Magma's plan was actually to only expand the amount of land a bit as opposed to drying up all water. Team Aqua however still wanted to flood the world though "for the good of all Pokémon" (despite wiping out most Pokémon in the process.)

And then Team Rainbow Rocket happened

Let's be honest, Team Rocket is looking like a more understanding group than KZfaq is recently

Fun fact: Ghetsis's team at the end could nearly perfectly counter the pokemon N had at his last fight. And seeing how Ghetsis is the only person in Pokemon who will result to murder, it's quite possible Ghetsis planned to eventually kill N and take his legendary, which his alternate version probably did as shown in Pokemon Ultra Sun/Moon.

You forgot about Sordward and Shielbert. If they succeeded in their plan, they would be kings of Galar, and I’d hate to live in a region under their rule. Also, Zacian and Zamazenta would no longer be heroes, but terrifying beasts. The brothers would probably abuse their power to get in control

Team Skull's goal wasn't just "get rich". They wanted to get rid of the Island Challenge and basically destroy all of Alola's Culture And given that the Tapus are responsible for entrusting Kahunas, Captains, and Z-crystals, the Island Deities would likely be killed. The combination of the consequences of Team Skull winning would basically make all of Alola just like Po Town. Feel free to expand on my idea here.

Its weird that everybody calls Giratina evil and conventional forgetting that it stopped Cyrus of its own free will

Giratina probably didn’t mind Volo because he didn’t want to straight up delete the universes like Cyrus did.

As much as I love the hoenn villains, they really did not think through their plans. I guess they assumed they could control the legendries so precisely that they can just avoid all of the destruction and magic the world the way they wanted. You gotta love dumb villains, at least they learned their lesson haha

Honestly, if we could get a spin-off where team plasma succeeds and the player joined a rebel group fighting to survive against Ghetsis and the rest of the team( as Ghetsis didn’t necessarily want to be the only person with Pokémon, he wanted team Plasma to have a Pokémon monopoly) would be very interesting

Team Galactic and Flare were definitely the most dangerous

Plasma also failed to take something else in to consideration Some trainers treat their Pokemon so well the Pokemon consider them friends and would willingly fight for them. Example: Let's say Ash was in the games and released all of his Pokemon, but then wanted to fight N. I have no doubt in my mind Pikachu, Charizard, Pigeot and Butterfree would WILLINGLY fight alongside Ash despite not being his Pokemon any more

Team plasma and team rocket would basically have a never ending war.

I like how every scenario is "this is what WOULD have happened" and then is team Aqua/Magma: - They succeed and the legendary awakens. Then Rayquaza, a pokemon they didn't even know existed, stops it ans that's it, end of the journey. - IF Rayquaza is not there, they die like in the animated series Generations. - IF they control the Pokémon, they break the natural balance and destrot the world, so team Aqua kills all pokemon (and fails) or team Magma errases all the land and make the planet uninhabitable (and fails). There is literally no scenario where they do what they want and make even the slightest profit out of it lmao

I could imagine a side entry where you play as the grunt of the evil team, only for a plot twist to be that the supposed player character would be the true mastermind and you would end up saving the world (and possibly being hailed as a hero)

Imagine a pokemon game in a region ruled by the evil team. You play as the male/female protagonist as always and at the endgame, you beat the villain with the help of the gym leader and other character to free the region. This could be sick.

Would really love a future Pokémon game to revolve around the villains winning and achieving their goals. A Team Rocket Kanto/Johto would be a dream for me!

What's ridiculous is if Rose had just called his little brother and asked him what he's up to, he would've learned about Regileki and Regidrago, two immortal golems literally made of energy who just love sitting in caves and emitting huge amounts of power, perfect for solving that energy crisis 1000 years in the future he was so worried about. But no. He just had to piss off Peony and cut all contact. Freaking dumbass.

anyone else realize that scarlet and violet are the first games to start the game with a dead professor

Funny enough Team Rainbow-Rocket actually had all the previous villains from other universes were they were successful with their plans

In a way, Cyrus found an alternative when he gets Darkrai in Masters EX, plunging himself and everyone in the Pasio region into a deep, emotionless sleep whit Darkrais power Took the majority of the sinnoh cast to stop him

Problem with Team Star is they were successful in driving off the bullies, but then became the bullies and luring off students from the school. The Director was about to expell all of them. They got too big and too aggressive, even after they accomplished their goals which also got almost the entire previous staff of the school fired/quit.

I mean, Team Star already succeeded in their plans. They wanted to get rid of bullying at the Academy, which they did... eighteen months before the start of the game.

Ghetsis did have a contingency, he has the staff in Pokemon BW2 that says “You can’t use Pokéballs to catch Pokémon.” He would just jeed to create a world-wide version of that.

Being fair to Ghetsis He wanted to be King of Unova first, then the world, and nobody would get to "re-catch" their pokémon because Team Plasma who's loyal to him would catch them first ensuring his rule We also seen that he turned Kyurem into a flying nuke cannon in BW2 so he most likely would have done that with Reshiram/Zekrom, his team also made Genesect into a Mewtwo-level threat and in BW you can also get the orbs for the Sinnoh Dragon Trio from his Shadow Triad PLUS the Master Ball Indicating that once he had Reshiram/Zekrom and was King of Unova he'd go after them in order to catch them with a master ball and use them to conquer the world with an army of "Genesectized" pokémon And unlike with Cyrus, there would be no reason for either Giratina nor Arceus to interfer since he didnt intend to destroy the world he intended to rule, getting to essencially rule forever as long he avoided pissing off the literal God

Is Dobbs even aware that Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon where we meet the team villains (Minus Team Skull, Aethar foundation, Yell, Macro foundation and star) where they succeeded in their timelines and their success being a good is a terrible world to live in

If Team Rocket had succeeded in the beginning, Giovanni would've seen most of the following evil teams as top threats to his legacy & either supported them while planning to double-cross them at the first advantageous opportunity OR had Team Rocket stop them.

If neo rocket succeeded, wouldn’t they still have to contend with red? I can’t imagine he’d hear about their reemergence and not be salty that Giovanni went back on his word to him.

Didn't AI Sada and Turo's plan already succeed not just in Paldea but for the entire pokemon world? In the distant future, at least in Violet's case, there are no more pokemon and it's possibly a dystopian place. The paradox pokemon in Violet that were originally flesh and blood and different types are now made up of Steel. Some of these pokemon are Iron Treads (Donphan), Iron Moth (Volcarona), Iron Hnads (Hariyama), Iron Jugulis (Hydregon), Iron Thorns (Tyranitar), Iron Bundle (Delibird) and Iron Valiant (a combination of Gardevoir and Gallade). Chairman Rose stated there will be a energy crises that will affect the Galar region in 1,000 years and in the remake of Ruby and Sapphire, there is a place hinted at being a safe zone in case a apocalypse happens. In Legensds, a character asks since your character came from the future, is there pokemon in it. One of the answers you can give is, '"No, its nothing like that"' stating there are no more pokemon. The second option is a happier answer saying pokemon are friends with everyone. Who's to say these two apocalypse events, plus your unhappy answer in Legends, are connected to Paldea's distant future problem in Violet thanks to both stupid original and their AI counterparts Sada and Turo? I hope Scarlet and Violet's DLC clears up this distant future problem.

Dobbs: If they succeed, Team Neo Rocket will be able to make Shiny Pokemon at will Some random genner: look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power

So I did kind of something similar. So in a story I had been working on Ash is accidentally killed by Jessie and James they didn't mean to do it, but with him out of the picture everyone else gives up. Flash forward about 10 years and Jessie and James are the heads of Team Rocket. They aren't as evil as Giovanni so they let their grunts keep more powerful Pokemon that they have grown attached too since they remember having to give up their Unova Pokemon. Anyways everyone works for Tean Rocket now with them using Rocket points as a form of money that can be used to buy items and can be earned by work or beating other trainers. Now I basically took the idea of the Pokétch and tweaked it a bit. They have a watch that can connect with others and display their I.D. as well as transfer Rocket points and even works as a communicator and tracking device. Now anyone can be a grunt and join the academy at 10 graduating at 13 and depending on the number of Rocket badges you earn it will determine your rank as the students can take on the gyms and the Rocket league the winner becoming an executive right after graduating

Gamefreak would never ever ok something like this, but I would like to see an open world pokemon game set after a team magma/aqua victory where you explore the ecologically ruined world atop a rapidash/lapras that you befriend at the beginning of the game with the goal of finding the counterpart legendary (kyogre in team magma scenario, groudon in team aqua scenario) in order to bring the world back into balance

I like How Half the evil teams Have stupid plans Most of Them Have insane plans well

Got to love how Lysandre's inverntion, the holocaster, is just the holocausts but slightly alters.

if you're going to count every villain in the pokemon games, you're missing some, i know you're counting the main games but I'd like to see these Villains winning Team Cipher (Pokemon Colosseum) Team Din sun (pokemon ranger)

Team Magma: 7/10, too much water. Team Aqua: 7/10, too much land.

It’s honestly amazing they already explored the bad guys winning in US/UM with Team Rainbow Rocket basically being made up of team bosses that were successful with their goals. Not only that, but US/UM are in a similar universe, if not identical one to the new timeline with mega evolution, which includes ORAS, so if you think about it, two Archie’s and Maxie’s existed in the same world for a short time. The old and the new ones!

“They would how control of mewtwo” mewtwo after massacring the grunts that went to catch it , “that was easier than I thought it would be”

Tbh Maxie's plan in using Groudon's drought effect WAS smart for his goal, using volcanos to make rocks in the giant masses of sea however, is not. But even if he used groudon to slowly dry all the water in hoenn it would have killed several pokemon and eventually starved and killed the people there (or at least made the region unlivable) and once it spread planetarily like it mentions everyone would eventually die of heatsroke dehydration or famine

Can you do that with other pokemon spinoff too ? It could be really interesting.

I desperately wanted to say YES to joining Team Rocket on that Nugget Bridge.

Finally, I know who is / was a team rocket member in manga.

I loved this one. Thank you!!! I hope you keep making new videos. Your thoughts are awesome and really entertaining!

Listening to some of these plans, I imagine a Spider-Man: No Way Home situation where the Rainbow Rocket villains discuss their plans and realize they were all about to die.

Never realized how much I had in common with Volo.

I love your theory videos! Very nice predications

Volo wouldn't capture arceus and discover myths, he would most likely just make or change the world so that everything negative no longer exists. Why would he capture Arceus, what does he get out of that?

You get expanded lore on all villains in Pokemon Masters EX, huge lore is there.

I feel like any major threats that could harm the world and by extension Kalos. Zygarde would try to put an end to it.

They should make a game based on Paldea where the paradox pokemon actually live in the main land and as we are already familiar with the land it would be nice to see how it would look like destructed. This idea would make a great 18+ game due to massive destruction and violence which E-rated pokemon won't do. lol

With Ghetsis he even has a plan to control both the storage and by extension PokeBall system so only authorized people could catch Pokemon. And Ghetsis had plans to control the creation trio.

GENIOUS idea for a video Dobbs! Enjoyed it

If 1 pearl=1,000 Pokédollars, and is sold at a low price, then this equates to $100 US dollars, which is the real life lowest price for a pearl. Therefore, 1000 Pokédollars divided by 100 US Dollars=10. Therefore, 10 Pokédollars=1 US Dollar. Therefore, joining Team Flare, 5,000,000 Pokédollars divided by 100 US Dollars= $50,000

I ain't even gonna lie, Sada and Turo's plans actually sound totally awesome and I can completely get behind, kinda sounds like what Jurassic World Dominion should have been

what is crazy, is that there are irl people who support team flares ideas

Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

I love the Mario 64 sound track in the video :) Unless I'm mistaken but it sounds super similar :) Hail Team Rocket! :)

I hope if Italy gets a region they do a mafia based evil team

Great video Dobbs. Keep up the great work. Love your videos and personality.

This is one of my fav videos you've done

Actually, you could have made an entry for Team Star, but it would kind of nullify their existence in the first place. In this timeline, had Team Star succeeded, it would mean their bullies had been caught and expelled from the school. But the question then remains, would Team Star disband or would they stay friends? Would Penny come out of hiding and reveal her face, or would she stay hidden, afraid that she wouldn't live up to her friends' expectations of her? I believe Penny would become resentful, and bitter of her former friends, the people who missed her dearly in the main timeline, and hate them based on her own narrative that they would not like her for who she is. She would contact the player, as she does in the main timeline, and tell them to fight the former Team Star bosses, based on some lie she made up. In reality, she wants the player to humiliate the bosses in front of everyone, in an act of petty revenge for something they never did. After the last boss falls she would gloat and monologues, talking about how friendship has no value and how it didn't help the bosses in the end. But as she speaks, the sudden realization that she feels empty would wash over her. She realise her "revenge" did not make her happy like she thought it would, and to make matters worse she would be confronted by her former friends who would ask her how she could even begin to believe her plan was a good idea. They would call her out as being the very thing she fought against in the first place when she formed Team Star, a bully, which would devastate Penny and she leaves Paldea to never return again. I don't find that story as satisfying as what we got, but I can't deny it does sound like a story Pokémon would have made in the past.

The Indigo Plateau Elite Four from the Manga would definitely work with Team Rocket.

Wonderful video!

Thanks for doing this!

Everyday is a good day when Dobbs posts videos

Lysandre Tried to warn us about modern society, No wonder why he is this way, he predicted the future, I can, no We can relate to him now

Chairman Rose did not want to make Leon capture Eturnitis and stop any energy problems on the future! He wanted to destroy Galar so he could make the future a better place, or so he thought

The Kanto gym leaders being apart of team rocket in the manga blew my mind. I just learned something new and nothing else I learn today is gonna top that.

They did. It's called the team rainbow rocket post ending to Ultra Sun & Moon

I enjoy the Team Yell ending 😂 I want that plan to succeed!

I don't entirely believe Team skull would be after money; I just think they want to stop everybody else from completing the island challenge. I it is said they're just island challenge mis-fits that want nothing more then to stop the island challenge altogether. Outside of this, They're pretty reasonable; Even as far as to heal you're pokemon in Po town.

While we’re on the subject, I’ve got some great ideas for Evil teams in Pokémon. Team Unversed, Team Legend, Team Paradox, Team Holon, and Team Aesthetica!

4:45 I forgot how much of a baddie Shelly was

12:32 As a Marnie stan, this just sounds like the best world to live in.

dont forget that if lysandre's plan succeeds, then his plan would basically fail, because without much oxygen (the 100 something people at team flare arent enough), the world would just become a wasteland

I cant wait for dobbs to reach 1 million subscribers he is such an amazing creator. KEPP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!

Timestamps: 0:11 Team Rocket 2:36 Team Neo Rocket 3:52 Team Aqua & Magma 5:54 Team Galactic 8:02 Team Plasma 9:40 Team Flare 10:50 Team Skull, The Aether Foundation & Team Rainbow Rocket 12:24 Team Yell & Chairman Rose 13:52 Volo 15:06 Team Star & Professor Sada + Turo

“The Elite Four is clearly against Team Rocket” *Meanwhile in the Pokemon Manga*

Haven’t watched this channel since like 2016. And it hasn’t changed a bit Now I’m back!

Chairman Rose was definitely the kid that got scared when his parents told him the earth will get absorbed by the sun in billions of years

team flare could’ve been an amazing evil team but they were shockingly executed

•The Kanto Elite four are team rocket in the manga too. Edit: Terrorist* •I'm next sure why he just doesn't say the evil teams beat the legendary pokemon instead of them not caring.

Sun and moon villians really be like: i just wanna chill in peace 😢

Pretty cool prediction and narration of WHAT IFs but what really got me was "tickle my pickle."

An idea I for a Pokémon villain was one who wanted to become the Champion of their region, so to that end they started an evil team to help them hunt down and capture powerful Pokémon that would allow them to be the strongest in the region. They wouldn't necessarily be strictly evil, more power-driven and overly ambitious. Perhaps going after Legendary Pokémon with little care to what danger to the world their actions would cause or deciding another Trainer's Pokémon has the right potential to be part of their Champion Team could be where it starts becoming more clear why they're so evil. Though they wouldn't necessarily have their subordinates steal people's Pokémon, they'd coerce/manipulate people into giving up their Pokémon to them.

Arceus would probably have a save state 💀

I am pretty certain that Ghetsis did in fact have a contingency plan based on the fact that he was in possession of the Adamant, Lustrous and Griseous orbs as is seen in the post-game when the shadow triad gives the player character those items as Ghetsis instructed them to do.

Most awesome vid!!!!!!!!

In generation 3, you forgot the most powerful team, team sky, they would expand the sky.

If I may Dobbs, you forgot someone. Mikey, (Mandjtv) leader of Team sky. If he wins, he will expand the sky. With all the consequences that come with it.

"And what tickled my pickle" that's why this is my second favorite Pokemon chanel

if you give it a thought you'll realize that Rainbow Rocket actually succeeded in their plans. The traveler Giovanny recruited villian bosses from multiple regions from multiple realities as his officers, each of them with their respective legendary pokemon. Rainbow Rocket just keep wandering across realities doing their bussines. In the 7th gen games we just happened to beat them and at the end Giovanny just leaves the place with a smile on his face, probably seeking for a different reality where Lusamine suceeded, to recruit her to work under him as he did with other bosses. With infinite realities, infinite posibilities are open so he can afford to quit realities where troublesome geniuses are troubling his plans and focus only on those he can control. He'd leave with new knowledge for the next invasion and at some point they'd be just unstoppable anywhere Rainbow Rocket's Giovanny is the ultimate boss from any multiverse

team magma's awesome because volcanoes! 🌋 although i would be cool with Team Yell succeeding in making Marnie & Morpeko the main characters of the anime

Lysander is a sociopath not a psychopath. He is well aware of his actions and his contempt for human life is comparable to any real world tyrant. On another note team yell are basically football hooligans.

"I'll read what he said..." "... And what tickled my pickle..." WAIT WHAT?! 😂😂😂

"And what tickled my piclle more stongly than anything-" -Volo

These are some cool theories

2:26 basically team rocket would be ea

Wait you're still uploading? Good to see you in my recommended again

Nice Thanks Dobbs 👍😎😁🎮🏆