The biggest lie us fans are telling ourselves after EVERY show is "Man, the show wasn't great, but it set up so much cool stuff so the next show will be awesome." And around and around we go. 😢

It’s always the same argument, it is not as bad as Boba Fett, and it actually had its moments, but this series had so much more potential… like a lot of SW content lately. I agree with 99,9% of what Thor is saying about the Ashoka Series. This should have been amazing, not less, and it clearly wasnt.

The low score might mean some fans are entering the “hate watch” phase of fandom. In there, only 5-star quality can drag you out, otherwise 1-4 stars all appear 1-star. It eventually burns out into the “ex-fan” stage (not watching).

"A lot of good ideas cancelled out by bad ones" describes my view as well, but yes, the last two episodes, especially the finale, should've been done better. It wouldn't even need major fixes: 1- An actually competent, smart Thrawn, 2- more urgency and 3- a better handling of Ezra/Sabine. that would've made this go from a 6/10 to an 8/10 for me. What bothers me is that you'd think there was someone looking over what Filoni had written and said "fix these areas and we're gtg" but there didn't appear to be that type of person. When I wrote a very basic Christmas play years ago, I had someone trustworthy go over my script and point out things that didn't make sense or could be executed better, and it made a huge difference, so it boggles the mind that Disney, with all its $ millions, didn't have anyone with the ability to go over the writing, recognize obvious and glaring flaws, and then fix them.

Star Wars fans will always give Star Wars content a chance. No one is rooting for it to fail. I almost pray going into these shows that they’ll be good or great. Who wouldn’t want that ? But when they make beloved characters hard to cheer for and then stupid action scenes it just gets you almost angry at the missed opportunities for awesomeness

When it comes to writing, all Star Wars shows should be like Andor.

I think the reason BoBF scored better is because it came out earlier, whilst there was still more goodwill and more people who basically automatically liked it. There are fewer of those people now, and if the two had swapped places I'm willing to bet BoBF would be considerably lower.

With the exception of Clone Wars, Rebels, Andor and Rogue one its been the best show and content we've gotten. You can tell it comes from a place of love which is more then anyone can say for the Sequels. Which beside comparisons seems to have been kinda left and forgotten lol.

Ray Stevenson and Hayden Christensen were the only highlight of the entire show, that's about it. I gotta be honest, this show was a misfire. So many questions left unanswered, All the plot conveniences holding everything together just made me roll my eyes like "what?" And they completely undercut the drama. The stakes are nonexistent since the main characters have way too much plot armor, the acting and dialogue for the most part comes off as very wooden and one note, the characters were done dirty just as I feared ( Sabine was done the worst ), and the emotional impact that these characters should've had with their reunions fell very flat. Even the lightsaber effects in this show is inconsistent. At time's, the blades look way too stiff when they wave them around and the colors look so dull, while others times, they look colorful and flashy.

Visually this show was awesome. Baylan was great, and Anakin was fantastic. The first three episodes could have, and should have been an opening crawl; and under no circumstances should yet another character taken a lightsaber in the guts. Those two things would have solved the pacing for the rest of the show.

Disney/Lucasfilm reminds me, in a way, of the situation in the video gaming industry relating to Baldur's Gate 3. Many (most) of the top video games companies in the industry pre-emptively came out just prior to/right after the release of Baldur's Gate 3 this year claiming that customers should not expect that all games released should be held up to the standards set by Baldur's Gate 3 - minimal bugs, no micro-transactions, well written & engaging. Those competitor companies complained about BG3 having "lots" of money, development time, a niche audience etc - anything to deflect away from the industry standard of releasing mediocre games in a buggy state and charging the customer more money to engage with it. BG3 came out as an extremely well-reviewed game & while it did not please everyone, it did please the overwhelming majority of those that bought it. Andor is the Star Wars equivalent to BG3 - I believe the majority of those that watched it through came away believing it is (one of) the best Star Wars shows on Disney+ & its audience review ratings reflect it. Lucasfilm is the equivalent to the "other game companies" - don't expect all of our shows to be like Andor when our standard is releasing series that are too short, too rushed, with mediocre writing, plenty of plot armor, lack of character development, no real tension or drama, contrivances galore & questionable plot decisions. It's almost as if they are actively trying to drive Star Wars over a cliff - I'm a passenger on this voyage too & I'd like the car to stop.

I mean, it was a fine show. Just fine. Not as great as early Mando or especially Andor. But it wasn’t terrible and it passed the time. Hopefully a follow up season is better and the actors will have found their groove. It’s been known to happen.

1. Andor - 10/10 2. Mandalorian Season 2 - 8.5/10 3. Mandalorian Season 1 - 8/10 T4. Ahsoka - 6/10 T4. Mandalorian Season 3 - 6/10 6. Book of Boba Fett - 5/10 7. Obi Wan Kenobi - 4/10 Bonus: The Bad Batch - 7.5/10 Tales of the Jedi - 8/10

4th place, just underneath S2 of The Mandalorian but 3rd place if we cram all 3 seasons of The Mandalorian together

I'd rank it lower than Mando 1 & 2, (8 or 9/10) or Andor (9+), but well above Kenobi or BoBF (3 to 5/10). It's on par with Mando S3 in my book, a solid 7/10. Flawed, but quite enjoyable. Baylan and Shin stole the show.

I like the series enough to write my own rewrite of it since I understand it comes from a place of love for the franchise despite it’s flaws

I'm a little concerned that they seemed to include just enough Thrawn in this show to demonstrate that they don't know how to use him. I predict the follow-up show will likely have a decent audience hold (probably eight-five to ninety percent of the Ahsoka audience will at least check it out), but what you really want to do when setting up an eventual grand finale to this entire Mandoverse is to build hype as you go, not attenuate.

I'm surprised your list doesn't include the 2 seasons of Visions. With Andor, it's probably the best thing that happened to Star Wars in recent memory, in terms of broadening it horizons.

I think Filoni might work best pointing the wider direction whilst working with somebody like Tony Gilroy, somebody who brings that real feeling of care, attention and quality.

Kamino was in the main galaxy and still managed to be more mysterious and interesting than Peridia and the other galaxy in general.

I have a lot of respect for this channel. It keeps it real and tells it how it is. Thank you, and keep the content up

Yet again, Disney did not miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Im disappointed that Grand Admiral Thrawn got the General Grievous treatment. Both we compelling antagonists in the noncanon lore but when it comes to what is canonical they were both completely botched

I feel like everybody who is hoping the power Baylan felt is Abeloth is setting themselves up for disappointment like I set myself up for disappointment hoping this show would be connected to the two new thrawn trilogies

Hey Thor, Love your content and I’m a proud Patreon supporter. This past week, I finished watching both Ashoka and finally got around to finishing season three of Star Trek Picard. After watching both of them, I couldn’t help but notice the similarities between them, and how Picard was able to nail the story better than Ashoka did. Star Trek Picard is a sequel series to the next generation that is focused, mainly on one character. They are unapologetic about it being about that, and if you’re not somebody who watched the next generation, you might be a little confused. this was for long time fans. I felt like Ashoka was just trying way too hard to both be a sequel series to rebels, while also being something that the “average fan” who hasn’t seen that before, could enjoy. Which caused it to not really fully satisfy either group. I did enjoy it, but felt it could be so much better. I think it’s great to have shows like the Mandalorian that are very much so for everyone, but I think having shows that are mainly geared towards really deep fans, who are “rewarded“ for watching past shows is great as well. Would love to hear what you think about this and thank you for all the interesting discussions you bring to the table. 😊

That one fan cut of kenobi imo makes it one of the three or four best of all, tied with season one of mando, behind season 2 of mando and andor which is by far the best.

Mandalorian Season 2 was the best especially with the finale

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convince SW was in the good hands of Disney.

I wanted more from Ahsoka. In the end, the show was decent. Had some good moments, but it could've been better. I felt the same about Book of Boba, Kenobi, and Mando S3 (though I liked Ahsoka slightly more than those). These shows have left me feeling empty by the end of the season. It makes me wonder why I bother paying for Disney Plus.

Listening to a lot of comments mention how they are disappointed in general but excited about the ‘Mortis arc’ story possibly continuing. And all I could think is general Star Wars fans aren’t excited for that and don’t even know what it is. If this is what the draw is, Star Wars truly has ‘died’ as an iconic brand and will never get back to being what it once was and is now a niche IP

I feel like this show could have benefited from a couple more episodes that they could have spread more of what we got in the last two and added things to try to make it better

I was intrigued by the presence of Mordor and Mount Doom in the new galaxy. Like J. R. R. Tolkien gonna sue someone!

Start to finish, the 4th episode was nearly perfect. Yet people rate the 5th episode higher (because of so much Anakin screen time?), despite the end of it dragging on (the Star Whale stuff just wasn't interesting, we knew what was happening, even if it had a few good moments). Not all people will rate something based on "start to finish". They are willing to overlook some flaws if other parts are great in an important way (at least important to that fan). Yes, Thrawn was a joke, and i didn't like the previous offscreen Sabine training and her finally using the force. But, there was some exceptional moments this show gave us, and where the characters ended up was satisfying. Not that I'm saying the show was exceptional, but a 4/5 is fair. Also, I feel like a lot of people are missing so much of the subtext, which to me seems obvious but maybe isn't?! There's a bit of meta stuff going on that I've not seen people talking about (in the earlier/middle episodes - although there are obvious stuff in the later episodes that were more obvious so people did notice).

I don't think it's as bad as many people say though I don't think it's quite mind-blowing. Here's my ranking: 1. Andor S1 2. Mandalorian S1 3. Mandalorian S2 4. Ahsoka S1 5. Mandalorian S3 6. Obi-Wan 7. Boba Fett

Hey @thorskywalker so was Marroc reanimated nightsister magic or was the dark green smoke something his species does? If tales of the Jedi is cannon then does that mean the Inqusitor that Ahsoka kills in that show is either the same species or reanimated with nightsister magic? reason i ask is if it is Nightsister magic then would mean Morgan Elspeth was working for the inqusitorius/Empire back during the Jedi purge? I thought Palpatine had mostly purged the nightsisters... Also we saw Night sister magic reanimation smoke at the end of Ahsoka series and its a much lighter green, more consistent with clone wars/Fallen Order night sister reanimation magic smoke... what are your thoughts??

Personally this is my second favorite original Disney Star Wars movie/ show with Andor being the only one over it (Clone Wars Season 7 is not counted since it is repurposed Lucas Star Wars), I feel like the flaws were more minor and I really enjoyed every episode both because I think the story was well done and since it feel like Lucas Star Wars to me.

If Sabine died when Shin impaled her with a light saber, it could have been a real Interesting show, Ashoka would have actually been the main character in her show and also have so much more emotions and struggles to deal with and overcome. Our heroes need to struggle and sometimes we need to lose loved ones to grow, we also need real stakes, with Disney you always know the good guys are gonna win and the bad guy is never really ever gonna do anything that scares you or makes you fear them

Too many people were fooled by characters that look like the characters we knew from other series while ignoring that those characters in the show were pale imitations or outright ignored previous character developments. The writing was pretty awful and funny enough the 'deep' and 'thought provoking' aspects of the show fall apart with just a bit of critical thinking. They also did Thrawn dirty by trying to show his tactical genius in such lacking ways and falls so far short of Legends Thrawn. Of course I'm forgetting that too many people are entertained with the equivalent of watching paint dry on a wall, especially when the wall is painted with an IPs name.

Some of these comments sound like, "Yeah, I ordered a filet mignon, but only got a pork chop. I guess I can forgive the chef and I'll still pay the $100 tab even though I didn't get what I wanted." That's utter nonsense.

One of the commenters mentioned missed opportunities. I think that sums up Disney's Star Wars precisely and concisely.

For Battle of the Heroes and Villains, it feels like animated Ahsoka and live-action Ahsoka should be two different characters.

I'd personally rank Ahsoka above Book of Boba Fett

this being below Book of Boba Fett is crazy

I think a lot of shows first seasons give us a taste for what is to come for more seasons. I wished all the hype given it would have been better. I wished that the show could use some good writing and putting stuff in.

That is surprising, I definitely like it better than Book of Boba Fett, but it's still not great.

For me. 1. Andor 2. Mando s2 3. Mando s1 4. Ashoka 5. Kenobi 6. Mando s3 7. Book of boba fett

Andor nr 1 Mandolorian S1-2 nr 2 and then that’s it right?

after rewatching Andor all at once (not every week when it releases), that one should be 4.99 imho and I can't wait for S2 if it hopefully gets made...

The show was ultimately more than good enough to keep me invested going forward. That being said, if the Mortis aspect of this story arc doesn't go anywhere or Ahsoka's character is mishandled I'm probably checking out on Star Wars, at least anything taking place in the the Skywalker era.

Ok but why can Andor, Jedi survivor and fallen order be amazing and fit very well together tonally while bringing new stuff to the galaxy and being very well made? The main star wars things these days are just in the wrong hands in my opinion.

“Disney Star Wars” is the definition of “temper your expectations.”

Ahsoka really deserve a better score, but it just goes to show how important the ending is.

I want to learn cgi and redo the scene where Huyang is attacked, and just have him catch ths fist and say "Do you think id be charged with the care of younglings" draws sabers "without being able to protect them?" Then we cut inside the ship and hear some screams in the distance.

To answer all the questions you had.. Spaceballs 2: The Search For More Money

I don't understand Baylan and Shin being "standout characters". Certainly they are standout performances, and certainly they intrigue us throughout the show because we keep wondering where they came from and what they are doing. But, that does not necessarily make them compelling as characters. We know very little of depth about either of them as people.

Hey Thor, this is a question I have been wondering for a while. If you recall a lot of people really disliked the prequels back in the day that they came out, but now, around 20 years later I would say that by and large people are accepting them for what they are (if not like myself really loving them and considering them great star wars content). I know this could (and probably is) in large part because of the fantastic Clone Wars series, so my question is: Do you think that people will ever warm up to the sequels/other less-than-stellar Disney Star Wars era content? Do you think that fan views could change in say... 10 or 20 years later? I know that Disney is trying (and we can debate about how successful they have been...) to patch up the gaps that ultimately lead to these films, so... do you think that in a bit of time, there will be a general acceptance (or possibly even enjoyment) of them by even the hardcore star wars fans in the future?

It was def better than the book of boba fett. I would say that by the end I was more interested in Baylan and Shin than any of the other characters. I never felt like any of the main characters were actually in danger.

I have not seen Ashoka and honestly don’t care to, but from the things I’ve seen it reminds me of bread that’s been soaked in water for a minute. It ain’t moldy or anything but it is soggy and not exactly in a good way or a bad way. Not all too appetizing

This show reminds me of HBO Rome Season 2. Where the pacing and logic kinda got scrambled because they had a bunch of seasons planned that they squished into 1. I wonder if this show had a similar situation where the plan got smashed by a change by the producers? Because i know filoni can write, rewatching rebels shows that he can write well paced emotional and interesting stories without plot holes. But this show does not show that. I feel like the script of this show needed another few drafts, particularily for the finale, and the editors needed to take another few months the manage the pacing better and clean up the show. Or just make a few more episodes, im tired of every show being only 8 episodes nowadays, the writers cant figure out how to pace seasons well for 8 episodes, so either cut out dumb stuff and do 4 or 5 good ones. Or just do 12 or 15 episodes or something and let the characters and plotlines breathe.

Didn’t get a chance to vote. Would have given it 1 star.

Going along with the criticisms of the new galaxy as a whole, the MCU only used Morag and Vormir for one thing each, and both of those planets were more interesting in concept than anything presented in this show, let alone all the wild stuff we saw in the prequels.

I also thought it was much better than BOBF but i think i may have given them the same score, and that's probably down to some law of diminishing returns. I was expecting Ahsoka to be something stellar, something to renew the franchise, but it was just a bit of a mess. I feel as though anything in the post ROTJ universe is going to suffer in this respect - the sequels have poisoned anything that could possibly be written.

😮 Ahsoka lower than Boba and Andor thats very unreasonable to me the show arguably has way more to offer than both of those it makes no sense.... Audience disappointment fatigue from other shows has to be the reason there is no other answer..

Most of the time follows the security guard who follows Cassian and it has all the energy of a loss prevention investigator trying to stop the office supply thief who steals Staples and pens

I thought it was passable, it started out slow, then picked up, and then completely lost steam.

I think star wars needs to really show some seriousness when its time to. also bring back sarcasm in star wars it has always been there. I didn’t enjoy ahsoka because it felt like I was watching spy kids for some parts. I love star wars and its lore and I hope it comes back and kicks ass some day

After a lot of contemplation on this series I came away with two main reasons for it not being as great as it shouldve been: Idenity crisis and Filoni being the sole writer. The main reason for the identity crisis is the Filoni movie. There's a 100% chance that Disney wants the movie to appeal to everyday people, not just hardcore SW fans. That means that this series was tasked with introducing these people to the Rebel characters and Ahsoka to a lesser degree because she was already in Mando. The series was also bogged down by already knowing the ending, Thrawn escapes, because he will be in the movie so of course he has to. 8 episodes is simply not enough time to accomplish all of this. Filoni's poor abilities as a writer bogged it down further. This series should have been about Ahsoka's life after the events of Twilight of the Apprentice, immediately after her fight with Vader (imagine a live action remake of her confrontation with Anakin/Vader? Oh man!). We could have had a completely different story with her with new characters and she could have spent a lot more time dealing with the trauma she dealt with (especially since it was just reopened for her and a lot more raw). Then at the end of the series flash forward to her finding the map, contacting Sabine and have the cliff hanger be the live action epilogue of Rebels. You can then have a legitimate live action Rebels season 5 with the entire ghost crew and Thrawn with a focus on finding Ezra, have that lead into the new movie. Ahsoka can just be more of a side/supporting character in that series so the emphasis can really be on the Rebels cast, kind of like how she was handled in Rebels. This would have been less messy and it allows a more general audience to really familarize themselves with these characters while having better character arcs IMO.

The problem with Disney Wars is that there are absolutely no wars going on. Every single show has been during peacetime except TBB, also it feels like a pocket universe disconnected from the movies.

Please do a video showing the dwindiling viewership of the Star Wars shows. Samba TV's data shows they lost 30% of viewers/households between the premier and the finale.

Hey Thor. I love the period between episode 3-4, birth of the rebellion and other rebellion stories. However, as has been said, all roads leads to the sequels which means nothing that happens actually mean anything, it can be great stories in itself of course but it still ends with the sequels. The same provlem exists with the old republic, we know how it ends. My suggestion would be to fully embrace the sequels and continue the story beyond them and give us something new that we don't know how it will end. I was not a fan of the sequels but I could become a fan of what comes after...

Thanks for speaking the truth Thor. Start Wars deserves better writing!

Why are you doing a poll for peoples reranking of Ahsoka when you have not done the HK-47 video yet.

Seriously? Ahsoka below the show that turned Boba Fett into a doormat because Favreau doesn't know how to write a Scarface-esque story?

I said it before and I’ll say it again, when I heard about them going to a new galaxy, I was hoping beyond hope that the new galaxy was the extended universe. That would’ve been so much better than the nonsense that was given to us.

The best part of writing in ESB were the lines targeted towards 3PO: “Chewie take the professor to the back and plug him into the hyperdrive!” also, “Shut him up, or shut him down!”

Better than Obi-wan and Bobba Fett. Well below Madalorian season 1 and 2. It doesn't even stand under the same sun as Andor.

My thoughts on the force lesson: think about on Luke’s vision from episode 5. It didn’t hold your hand or explain the lesson luke needed to learn. Personally I don’t need concrete explanations of the force in every aspect of starwars for me to enjoy it.

1. Andor 2. Mando S1 3. Mando S2 4. Ahsoka 5. Mando S3 6. Obi-Wan Kenobi 7. BoBF Smack in the middle of the road, but it's misleading bc the quality gap between 1-3 and 4 is quite large, whereas the gap between 4 and 5-7 is rather small.

Not only was the Anakin lesson vague, but the season to that point didn’t even establish that a lesson was even needed? Was there an outstanding lesson from Rebels that was unresolved? Or are we expected to go all the way back to the Clone Wars show to when she left Anakin? If that’s the case, why the hell was it within this series?!?

My takeaway? 1. Put Rick Famuyiwa on the "Robert Rodriguez bench" and keep him there. It was his direction that gaves ZOMBIES DON'T DIE FROM LIGHTSABERS!!!(tm) and several other awkward bits (including that 3rd rate Avenger's Unite! tripe with the three of them fighting inside of the "Volume" which shouldn't be used for such things). 2. Dave Filoni should take a lesson from the GL original trilogy playbook, and move to 'showrunner/Exec. Producer' and hire writers who actually have far greater skill at story telling.

I like how now everyone is an expert in writing, why are those people talking about bad writing instead writing something by themselves? I have notice Thor highlights comments that are more in line with his opinions, and maybe one that is in the opposite side, but I have seen really positive comments in some of his videos but for obvious reasons, I believe, he doesn't chose them. I have seen only a few videos from this channel so I will not say all his videos are this way.

@thorskywalker I know this a lot of me to ask, but can you make a video discussing the difference between Marvel and Lucasfilm Disney+ shows? The discrepancy in quality is night and day. Just the first episode of Loki S2, they got me hooked. I think OB is very charming. Supporting cast is bright and lively. I get it, we can’t all be Tom Hiddlestons. But man, us Star Wars fans don’t deserve dry, stoic bricks

The results of the poll, are a result of our expectations. We wanted BoBF to be good. When it wasnt, we didnt care too much. When Ahsoka wasnt great, it sucked. Same concept with episode 7&8 of Ahsoka. They werent bad episodes, but as the penultimate episode / finale of the season... to set up a second season / film... they were terrible episodes.

Hey Thor! As far as I’m concerned, you never need to explain yourself for having a balanced view which attracts an audience with a balanced view. It’s balanced because the audience feels comfortable expressing their opinions regardless of where they fall on the spectrum.

Who would have predicted that Andor, the series in which many had little to no interest in upon its announcement, would become the standard by which subsequent Star Wars series would be compared to! It just goes to prove that good writing and character development outweighs flashy action sequences! I’m not saying that everything should be as ‘mature themed’ as Andor, but at the very least, give the audience a meaningful story worth investing in.

I'm late commenting because of my lack of interest in the Ahsoka show. Because of other Disney+ Star Wars shows I was also slow to even start watching. I had only watched the last two episodes today. I enjoyed where The Mandalorian started, not so much where it ended up. The Book of Boba Fett and Obi Wan Kenobi both severely disappointed me. However, Andor was a delight. I've read comments about Andor not being Star Wars enough. I don't understand that. Andor was inserted right into the Star Wars galaxy. Light sabers and use of the Force was scarce at the time, but so what? It was fantastic, a well thought out story. The writing was brilliant. I've watched Rebels and I wasn't a fan of The World Between Worlds or purrgils. But hey, it was animation. I don't want to sound too negative. Ahsoka wasn't all bad. It was certainly better than Boba Fett, Obi Wan and the third season of Mando but it was no Andor. We got Baylan Skoll and Shin, two new intriguing characters, I liked that. But I had issues with some of the story choices. And I can like different, but dying but not dying, space whales, witch magic and undead stormtroopers may be a bit too different for me. It's kind of weird to admit it, but maybe not all Star Wars is my kind of Star Wars.

The other galaxy was like... the exact same as the star wars galaxy in aesthetics and tech

Personally I'm not a fan of the Mortis Gods, the World Between Worlds or how Nightsisters are using actual magic now where in the EU it was just using the Force but using "spells" as a way to channel it. So you could say I'm not into the more mysticism elements of Star Wars that the Filoni involved projects have explored. So it makes me wonder just how accessible to more casual fans that haven't watched TCW or Rebels that the Filoni movie will be. A lot of heavy praise I've seen for this show are from fans that have watched TCW & Rebels and I've seen so many people retort to any criticism of this show that "well if you'd watched all of TCW & Rebels you'd find it amazing" etc.

I think the Ahsoka show scored lower, because we held it to higher standards. This isn't some new story, it's THE story of Thrawn, the return of Ezra, the continuation of Rebels and of Ahsoka's story. We hoped it would be awesome, but it was "simply good", which left me a bit disappointed

I liked it more than Kenobi, BOBF, and Mando season 3, but over all it barely gets a four for me. I liked, Bailin and Shin, I liked Ezra and the Droid, Anakin was decent I just think Haden is a pretty meh actor even with Kenobi and Asoka, but in the end I was often bored by the main plot most of time, the acting was bad, and they handled Thrawn quite poorly. 6.5/10 decent compared to what we have been getting but I am not going out of my way to recommend it.

It was fine, but I don’t know if I just have lower standards for it because A. it’s basically an extension of Rebels which I like a lot, but have lower standards for because it’s animated, or B. I’m just so completely done and can’t care much anymore after the Obi-Wan destruction. I’m a bit tired of the synergy. It just didn’t seem like its own story, it was just a transition from point A in Rebels to point B in whatever’s next.

I'll go: 1 Andor 2 Mando (just about) 3 Ahsoka 4 Kenobi 5 Visions 6 Fett 7 Last Jedi 8 Bad Batch

George Lucas You mean General ....... ? "See meatbag he likes Delorian's" Temple? "He's the one in the middle." Do all Droids get recycled?

i dont wanna rewatch Mandalorian, Obi-wan, Boba Fett and no, i dont wanna rewatch Ahsoka... coming from star wars fan, with Ahsoka as one of the favourite characters, i think that is pretty sad... just boredom...

Andor really did spoil me. Also I don’t get how the Mortis gods would redeem the show, that’s like saying a Marvel end credits scene made the movie better. I don’t even know what those are, so all that scene looked like to me was Baylan mucking around some statues

Andor Mando Ahsoka Boba Obi

I have Ahsoka ranked 2nd after Mando S2. Agreed it was not perfect but it had the story plot. Of all SW shows, I need Ahsoka season 2. More so to have answers regarding the mortis gods. I like Andor alot but I have already forgotten what happened on the show. Andor is ranked 4 for me. Ahsoka's mistake was trying to bring in new fans into Rebels story arc with the first 3 episodes. They should have just continued the Rebels arc. Ashoka was solid 4/5 for me but I can see why people were disappointed especially from the non-(clone wars and Rebels) fans.

I thought it was good but wished Sabine had more spirit, she just seemed numb. Nothing like Rebels Sabine. Yes she’s older but she shouldn’t be a lonely cat lady Mandolorian.

Andor was "Peak" Disney Star Wars, in fact I'd rank it up in with the original 3.

The big issue i think that's hurting the these shows. Beside what appears as laziness. In simply that the shows arent enough episodes. They need more time to fillout the plot and character development. 8 can barely do that, especially with extrenious fight scenes. I like fight scenes they are part of the star wars formula for sure, but they should always be there because thr PLOT demands it, not the studios demand x amount of time dedicated to that. I probably speak for myself, but id be fine with more episodes and lower budget with less fight scenes, if i actually got the stories and character sruff that i watch the franchise for. But i worry that such a thing would never happen, because way too many fans would call that boring. I do think that point of difference is an interfandom issue could also help explain why so manybare always left disappointed