Why Council Tool makes the only "premium" axe worth buying

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Urban Lumberjack

Urban Lumberjack

2 жыл бұрын

Most axe manufacturers have a "premium" line of axes. However, most are simply a more expensive axe without a real difference in quality to justify the price increase.
Council Tool is the only company I'm aware of that uses a higher grade of steel in their premium axe line (Woodcraft and Velvicut) that justify the price increase.
Thank you for watching!

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@MrAlexH1991
@MrAlexH1991 Жыл бұрын
CT is one of the only companies I know of that not only tells you EXACTLY what kind of steels you’re getting in each and every one of the axes you purchase on the website, but they also make sure to let you know that the bit on every single axe is differentially heat-treated, the rockwell hardness range of the edges after said differential heat treats, the type and grain of wood for the hafts, the type of grind and bevel you’re getting on the edge, all of it. I mean, they spell all the specs and details out for you in the product descriptions, EVERYTHING you could possibly wanna know about a supposedly high quality tool you’re purchasing. The prices for such high quality tools are also insanely attractive. Council Tool does NOT mess around. Haltzbruk, Granfors, all these other highly romanticized viking-esque axe companies could stand to learn some things from Council. Number one being: STOP BEING VAGUE AS SHIT ABOUT THE STEEL THAT YOU’RE USING. People who spend hundreds of dollars on a single axe are most likely going to want to know about the quality of the entire tool, how it was smithed, heat treated, all of it. These are NOT the kind of people shuffling into a Harbor Freight store to pick up a cheap throwaway axe.
@glbwoodsbum2567
@glbwoodsbum2567 Жыл бұрын
Estwing, Barco, and Vaughn tell you their steel as well.
@michaellee9883
@michaellee9883 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video. You only missed one important detail; Council Tool axes have been made in the USA since 1886. Do not buy axes made in China. They are low quality steel and will bend and break. Take pride in your tools. Buy American made. I have a Council Tool Jersey Fallin' axe, Boy's axe and an 8 lb splitting maul. I love them!
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Definitely, I try to buy everything made in the US, or if I need to go abroad, from a company that shares some of our values, takes pride on its work, and respects its working people. Thanks for the comment.
@michaellee9883
@michaellee9883 Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack Heck yeah! You deserve more subscribers. You are legit.
@gumboot65
@gumboot65 Жыл бұрын
Council needs to come out with the 5 lb Rafting pattern again.
@michaellee9883
@michaellee9883 Жыл бұрын
@@gumboot65 What is a rafting pattern? I am trying out their 5 lb axe/wedge banger next. It's two pounds heavier and a longer handle than what I have been using.
@bruce-qm5fl
@bruce-qm5fl Жыл бұрын
Don't buy China junk.
@gogart3
@gogart3 2 жыл бұрын
I've had many -not all, but many. The Sweedes do make good axes... but I stopped buying them after I tried the Council axes, Council gives you a better tool for the money
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this 100%. After I discovered council tool, I have been much less impressed with European axes. Not that they are bad products, but CT is a much better value.
@gorilla_with_jetpack4102
@gorilla_with_jetpack4102 Жыл бұрын
Council Tool has been around for like 180 years. You can CALL THEM and speak with a real person! They are a great company, and they love input on their products. They love their craft, they care deeply about the utility of their tools in skilled hands, and they own their reputation. Fire fighters especially rely on these tools. I know Marines, and SEAR specialists, from North Carolina to Seattle, and expert survivalists in Canada who all rave about Council's equipment. They make a damned good hoolibar from I can tell.
@hillbilly4christ638
@hillbilly4christ638 Жыл бұрын
I have a CT broad hatchet and it remains the most perfectly hung and oriented axe in my collection. The shape and thickness of the handle is perfect and I refuse to change a thing about it. Some of my axes get reworked not just for personal preference but also for functionality. CT has hit the ball out of the park with much of its product line.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Is that the broad axe they sold a few years back? I’ve been trying to find one for sale for months with no luck! I’d like to find one someday. Agreed they are getting a lot right with their axes.
@joseffroula7415
@joseffroula7415 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding content! What you say makes perfect sense. Thanks for posting this VERY useful and informative comparison.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind words! Hope it is useful.
@justinwaalkes8409
@justinwaalkes8409 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you on this subject matter…I have all axes discussed, with the exception of a CT classic jersey as it has yet to arrive (I ordered one 2 days ago). A velvicut “classic” jersey in 5160 would be the pinnacle of amazingness as far as I’m concerned..my favorite axe style coupled with my favorite steel. I enjoyed the video greatly, keep up the good work!!😁
@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234
@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing us and take care.
@TheToscanaMan
@TheToscanaMan 10 ай бұрын
Great to hear this great endorsement of Council Tool seeing as I just bought their Velvicut Double Bit Saddle Axe. 5160 alloy steel. It is a beautiful piece of workmanship and I love it. Thanks. You really seem to know your steels.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 10 ай бұрын
I have the Sport utility version of that saddle axe and love it! I use it way more than I would have thought. Appreciate your taking the time to write!
@yuriyork8094
@yuriyork8094 10 ай бұрын
Not only your video is good and informative but the moment I heard “back when man were man and music was good” I clicked liked and subscribed right that moment.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@martinmiller1087
@martinmiller1087 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Thanks. ... I used to make my living fighting wildfire in Alaska. Along with the use of other tools, my primary tool was a FSS Pulaski axe. ... On the dog sled trapline, I used a Hudson Bay pattern axe for trail maintenance and White spruce round splitting (spruce literally explodes apart at -40° F and colder). ... Council Tool has been on my radar for several years. You've convinced me to give them a go. ... Thank you.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience! That sounds like a very demanding environment. I feel like Council Tool is a company where “axe guys” make the axes. Really thoughtful features, intentional choice of steel, and their sport utility line is an especially good value. I’ve been using their pack axe a lot with a 24 inch handle. Great steel, hardens Poll, and I’ve started quite a few fires with a ferro rod, it works well! I think if I actually could only choose one ax to back my survival on, it would be the 24 inch handle pack axe.
@randystrand908
@randystrand908 Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack Boy, do I value your "If I only had one axe!" I've been carrying a Vaughan Daton pattern "USA 4" lb to all my tree jobs for three years. I use it mainly to drive wedges for the final felling back cut (when needed). It's often overkill so the "Woodcraft" looks worth a try. Anyway I'm getting into splitting and felling using an axe (for fun & exercise) as I found two old double bit axes on our family farm and am restoring them next. Just want to tell you that this was my first time seeing one of your videos and I was spell bound with your information. (I'm a full Swede btw! And of course love "Swedish Stuff"! 😂 Yet I have no problem with your pointing out the truth about marketing...🤔😔) I will be sharing this video with a few other "American Swedes!" And thank you again.
@crbradbury8282
@crbradbury8282 Жыл бұрын
Nice!! Cool journey story as well!
@ernestobarrameda1087
@ernestobarrameda1087 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest review on axes i luv a 5160 axe, i learn so much on this video
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Thank you friend, I appreciate it!
@michaelromano4250
@michaelromano4250 Жыл бұрын
hey man great your ability to speak at length while beautifully and intelligently articulating your knowledge is extreme impressive people like you are probably my favorite part of the internet
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! I love axes and woodworking which helps a lot making videos
@REIronminer
@REIronminer Ай бұрын
Beautiful work
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Roqjoru
@Roqjoru 2 ай бұрын
Most informative.... I had forgotten about Council Tools, thank you so much.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@MountainMenMilitia
@MountainMenMilitia Жыл бұрын
As an axe lover myself and as someone who spent his childhood splitting wood twice a day everyday for our home heat. I'm very much liking this channel. Subscribed.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! What a great experience for childhood. Hard work sets someone up for success later in life i think.
@johnsuarez1404
@johnsuarez1404 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@GentlemansJourney
@GentlemansJourney Жыл бұрын
Great video mate, very helpful!!
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dannysmith9217
@dannysmith9217 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the metallurgy. And yes Counsel Tool's fit and finish is consistent and phenomenal. American made, American Pride in manufacturing. Can't wait to do the factory tour. Great Channel.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! I’d like to tour CTs factory soon. I’m in Georgia so not terribly far away.
@dannysmith9217
@dannysmith9217 Жыл бұрын
I'm in Virginia. Make it happen, I'll meet you there
@OnTheRiver66
@OnTheRiver66 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video with great information. In the 1990s I had the pleasure of visiting Council Tool in Waccamaw, NC. I was very impressed with the people (Jack Council was the family member I met with) and I was impressed with their desire to make quality products. I saw their forges in operation and met with some of their employees and I can tell you the values of their company that I remember match very well with your experience with Council Tool products. BTW, Lake Wakkamaw is a great place to camp, vacation, fish.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 8 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! I’d like to visit the forge
@colechiantaretto574
@colechiantaretto574 Жыл бұрын
Velicut Jersey pattern axe is exactly what I want them to make too.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Send council tool an email! I’ve heard from a number of people that the Velvicut jersey could be awesome, even as a special run or something similar
@BBQDad463
@BBQDad463 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent video. I need to look at Council for my next axe purchase.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! They do tend to get overlooked. Strangely, I think a lot of people buy an extremely expensive European axe first before they learn more about the craft and discover Council. Lots to like there.
@Bkellyusa
@Bkellyusa 2 жыл бұрын
Man, this is one of the best, most informative and important KZfaq videos I've seen in the last year on what is what when your looking to buy a new axe. I myself love Council Tool axes. I think they are the only axe company out there that is truly making an effort to build quality, well thought out axes in the current market without building one of a kind custom axes. For me little features like hardening the polls should be a no brainer feature on any decent axe. The fact that they are throwing that feature along with in a very nice sheath and a quality handle puts them in a class of one for me. The other axe company that get my attention is Snow & Nealley. The primary reason is that they are using 1080 steel. I don't know how much difference that steel makes in an axe but I tend to believe that whatever differences it makes it's all in the right direction. I've seen one of your videos before but after this one I am going to subscribe. Keep up the great work.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very nice words! Thanks for the sub, I’m enjoying making the content and contributing to the world of axes. I share the same thoughts on Council Tool, they are a great company.
@ScrubLordJenkins
@ScrubLordJenkins 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, really enjoyed your insight. I've recently been buying and restoring axes. I have a gransfors bruk and a collins double bit axe, and have been looking for a good single bit. So you've sold me on council tool and bought a 6 lbs velvicut axe. Very excited to support American made steel and to get to try it out when it gets here.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Let me know what you think if you remember. That is a man’s axe for sure, hope you enjoy it, and thanks for watching.
@ScrubLordJenkins
@ScrubLordJenkins 2 жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack yes sir, I will. Definitely like the heavier axes as it compliments my strengths better, so I was looking at the forceful entry too. Keep up the good work bud.
@ScrubLordJenkins
@ScrubLordJenkins Ай бұрын
​@@urbanlumberjackso im a year late but your video came back up in my feed and I saw my old comment lol. Anyways i didnt end up getting the velvicut ( i will as soon as i find an older used one to restore), but I did get the forcible entry and I love it. Big heavy axe that has served me well in my splitting endeavors. I appreciate your knowledge that youve passed on to us, and keep making great content
@meandmyRC99
@meandmyRC99 Жыл бұрын
Nice job, thank you.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@danjennings5068
@danjennings5068 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. YT recommended this after I rehandled my grandfather's axe a while back but "thankfully" my buddy just broke it so now I have the opportunity to rehang it. I'd faired the shoulder, but this time I can bevel the eye, which I didn't know to do last time.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Beveling the eye makes for a great hang, best of luck!
@Leightr
@Leightr Жыл бұрын
I hit the junk/ antique stores on an off with an eye out for tools and camping gear and if you see any US army tool kits the axes are often Council, same with firefighter tools. I have their Velvicut HB pattern from a few years back and I love it for limbing, making tent pegs, or if I just need a lightweight axe I can pack easily for trail work. I was able to look through a stack of them and pick the one I thought had the best fit and handle as there is a logging supply store in my town that stocks most of Councils line.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Great to have a store life that! Those Velvicut axes are great.
@Stihlslinger
@Stihlslinger Жыл бұрын
Great vid thanks! I own a CT Jersey pattern and have always loved it, now I love it even more! Sad thing is I live in Sweden and it is really hard and expensive to buy CT axes since they don't sell here.
@CouncilToolCoUSA
@CouncilToolCoUSA 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! It's Rooster with Council Tool. Give me a call at the company offices, as I'd love to chat with you about our products. Thanks!
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
Would be an honor! Any time work best? Otherwise can call Thursday afternoon if that works for you.
@CouncilToolCoUSA
@CouncilToolCoUSA 2 жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack , Thursday afternoon is good for me. They will transfer your call to my cell phone. I'd give you my cell number, but I'm not sure how to contact you, or share contact info without a the comment being removed. I'm also on FB and IG, if you can find me. Thanks, Craig Roost
@nilsv461
@nilsv461 2 жыл бұрын
Learn anything interesting for all of us from Rooster?
@charlescharles9755
@charlescharles9755 3 ай бұрын
Great video
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@davidthomas5997
@davidthomas5997 Жыл бұрын
You got a new subscriber bud. That was a very cool video. Thank you. I live in Mann Edge tool country so I love the USA axes.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! That is wonderful country, so much history and so many vintage axes!
@kcstott
@kcstott 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir for the honest opinion. I don't have a need for a $200 axe but I do appreciate what a good axe should be. the forced entry axe is bargain for sure at under $100 delivered.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 9 ай бұрын
Much appreciated! I do love that forcible entry axe, has become my favorite splitter
@kcstott
@kcstott 8 ай бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack I'm going to order one here soon.
@cranberrysmoothie1
@cranberrysmoothie1 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few of their axes, I have been nothing but impressed with their products.
@joshuajohnson4396
@joshuajohnson4396 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite axe that I own is CT but I love my Collins, True Temper and Kelly Flint Edges. All 3 are my picks but something about the Australian axes are special
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
The hytests have something about them for sure. Love to own one some day!
@CatmanFS
@CatmanFS Жыл бұрын
When it comes to carbon content if you're comparing a plain carbon steel with an alloy you can use a carbon equivalent formula to determine the hardenability of the alloy as if it were a plain carbon steel. I learned about this when I was studying welding and metallurgy, welders use it to properly preheat and avoid cracking and it's a very good approximation. It's not exactly the same as what a person sharpening a axe or blade would be thinking about as far as hardness because that depends on the heat treatment done and can range from a completely softened state (annealed) to what the carbon equivalent formula comes up with (it's max hardenability essentially). I don't know if that helped, it actually made it more confusing really but you can look up heat treatment specs and different attributes to that process and get a good idea of how a specific type of steel will perform. It's all very well documented and specifications are often very exacting and reliable. For welding especially they need to be accurate so buildings and ships and nuclear reactors don't start falling apart unexpectedly. Good resources out there, Lincoln Electric has a small library and an absolute must have as far as I'm concerned for anyone doing anything with steel and other metals is "Metals and How to Weld Them". It's a crash course on metallurgy will be your new bible if you do any kind of metalworking, especially welding.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
That is really interesting, thanks for sharing.
@jpw9560
@jpw9560 Жыл бұрын
I think you need a conflict of interest declaration :) Just getting into axes and ordered a CT Jersey pattern. First axe bought that's not big box store standard fare. I'm really glad I found this channel!
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Lol! Just trying to bring a little reason to the axe market. Prices are way out of whack. Enjoy that axe! Gransfors Bruk, for example, doesn’t sell “premium axes,” and they are well worth the money. For others premium just means a price increase for no reason.
@iNeverSimp
@iNeverSimp Ай бұрын
You are bang on.
@handymanmaloy
@handymanmaloy 8 ай бұрын
Earned my sub
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@brianmaxey7568
@brianmaxey7568 2 жыл бұрын
I've not got to try an Council Tools axe yet, but very soon.. My old Sthil Forestry axe has been good to me for years..
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth checking out CT. I have a stihl forestry axe and i like it. Definitely a limping axe with its super thin profile. You might like councils boys axe. Does alot the forestry axe does, but has a longer handle and somewhat thicker bit so can do a bit more too. Thanks for watching!
@ironcladranchandforge7292
@ironcladranchandforge7292 Жыл бұрын
Oh brother...... I've been splitting wood my whole life and I'm an old man. I split between 7 to 10 cords per winter and for years I've been using my Sthil splitting axe. It's held up amazingly well. What kind of steel? I don't know. What kind of wood in the handle? I don't know. I just know it works, LOL. How did I choose my splitting axe? I went to the tractor supply store and it was on the shelf. It looked good and I bought it. People get so wrapped up in this stuff, LOL.........
@ar494
@ar494 Жыл бұрын
I have a 5lb Dayton for splitting lodgepole and doug fir and it does awesome. No damage whatsover in the past 3 years. Also have the Woodcraft axe on the 24" handle. That axe is great but the head slipped when camping while processing an 8" fir. Had to put another metal wedge in.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Is the 5 lb Dayton from CT? That’s awesome. I have a few of their smaller daytons and love them. I also have the 24” pack axe and it’s my go to for bush stuff.
@ar494
@ar494 Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack yes thw 5lb Dayton is from CT. Now they have the 5lb splitting axe. I do love the capabilities of the Woodcraft axe. Will probably rehang on a 26" handle and get the Camp Carver for back packing.
@donalddicorcia2433
@donalddicorcia2433 2 жыл бұрын
Council tool is based in the state where I live. I plan on taking a factory tour and picking up an axe while there.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
That’s great! Would love to see the factory, I’m just a state over, in Georgia. Let me know which axe you pick up!
@codylayman199
@codylayman199 8 ай бұрын
Man I sure hate when axe companies sent out stinkers for handles. 😂. Great video! I have had good results with Council Tool sport utility line to be honest. I definitely want to try out the velvicut line.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I like the SUV line alot too. I’ve never used a Velvicut but have the pack axe and camp carver. All around good stuff!
@olleaberg7271
@olleaberg7271 Жыл бұрын
I thought this was gonna be that type of fanboy video that Wrangelstar usually puts out about Gränsfors Bruk but I was certainly wrong, you are so knowledgeable on the topic both factually and by experience and you convey that so elegantly. I have one objection and its a small one. For a splitting axe I would buy a Fiskars. The plastic handle will never break and the steel is fine, maybe not as good as the premium brands but that isn't that important in a splitter IMO. And one last thing, the CT axes looks absolutely stunning and I would probably buy them if I didn't live in Sweden. Supporting high-quality Swedish products is important to me, I have a Gränsfors vildmarksyxa.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! My wife is Swedish, and I am looking forward to visiting your country someday! I’ve never owned a Fiskars but have heard many good things about them.
@travisladecker
@travisladecker 6 ай бұрын
I agree good video
@ciphercode2298
@ciphercode2298 6 ай бұрын
Ive a council rail splitter double bit from the late 79s or early 80s that my dad left me thats still got the original handle. I bought myself a fss council boys axe about 8 years from Omaha knife thats used alot limbing and splitting kindling. Its 1080 steel and has aittle stricter tempering standards than alot of axes. Its edge holds up great and is still easy to touch up. Ive also a 4lb Stanley made by mann edge tools thats pretty nice too.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 6 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! Good stuff
@helterskelter156
@helterskelter156 Жыл бұрын
So much truth in this video, that I don’t know where to start..!
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@realmetis8002
@realmetis8002 2 ай бұрын
The trick to swedish steel is their high RC for edge holding..I love that especially for our pines here in Canada
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 ай бұрын
I do love Swedish axes. I have four or five Gransfors and about the same Hults Bruk. Even an Arvika from before HB acquired them! Reflecting on this video, I’m not sure I expressed myself satisfactorily. I didn’t mean to say no one should ever buy an ax, other than Council Tool. There is a tendency by some to put out a premium quality axe that is essentially the same as a standard but double the price! If you’re interested in ax, hardness, I have done a number of videos testing the Rockwell ratings of GB Hults and a few others
@realmetis8002
@realmetis8002 2 ай бұрын
@urbanlumberjack I don't know if I cam across unsatisfied with the video...I was just engaged in the conversation..I also have council,husqvarna, Walter's,true temper and they all have a place and function..I'm hoping my comment wasn't taken as criticism that's not my intention
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 ай бұрын
@realmetis8002 not at all! Appreciated the comment. I wish I could edit that video sometimes so end up elaborating in the comments a little more than I may on a different video. Thanks for checking out the video!
@rockymountainpreparedness3357
@rockymountainpreparedness3357 7 ай бұрын
Love it! Have adjusted many friends flawed $25 axes with a grinder, file, sander, and oil... Nobody has ever brought me a Council Tool axe to change.. Couple unknowns, a few True Tempers' .. Lotta Collin's Axe.. Never a Council.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! I like council axes a lot, good quality good value
@stefanwust3705
@stefanwust3705 8 ай бұрын
I just inherited some land and have to maintain some small forest. Ihave no clue of that kinda work but I wanted to get it done on my own so thought i have to get some axes, i always buy quality tools and i thank you for the informations i think i go with some of the council tool axes.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 8 ай бұрын
Axes are perfect for that!
@kentonward97
@kentonward97 Ай бұрын
I love the wood craft axe especially love the hardened poll. But I also own the others , Hults Bruks, Gransfors Bruks, Norland. But Council Tool is a real great American tool company.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Ай бұрын
I feel the same!
@thomasdavies8750
@thomasdavies8750 8 ай бұрын
Tuatahi axes are made with their own steel recipe. I have their trapper axe which has a 18degree scandi grind that has held its edge through massive amounts of use including lots of chopping of knots etc. I've been amazed. Best performing axe I've used. Took time to sharpen though.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 8 ай бұрын
That’s really impressive. Not many axes can do that. I know about tuatahi but haven’t tried one. I’d like to someday.
@c.johnstonblacksmith
@c.johnstonblacksmith 2 жыл бұрын
I make my axes from recycled fork lift tines, which is likely a 4340. I should give 1055 a try as if it’s like 1045 at all it moves much easier under the hammer.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
For sure. I would imagine that 1055 would be far easier to work with than 4340. It’s a pretty good all around steel which is why it’s close to industry standard for axes. A 4340 axe sounds legit. Would probably be tough as nails.
@MacXcode
@MacXcode Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%!
@McBicbic
@McBicbic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video. It seems you really like the jersey and were able to split a pretty big round with it, but you also have great words for the forcible entry. Do you think the jersey is a more "all around" axe while the forcible entry is more designed for splitting? Which would you grab on your way out the door if your workshop was burning down?
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
The jersey is my go to axe for sure. Definitely the all around best axe. The forcible entry axe is great for splitting but really purpose built for firefighting or splitting.
@McBicbic
@McBicbic Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack Thanks! I tried buying one from Harry Epstein but they didn't have it in stock. They had the 36" one without the forged bevels for a great price though! Ended up getting it from another independent business called Wisemen Trading based out of Alabama. Thanks again for the recommendation and the in depth video!
@aussiehardwood6196
@aussiehardwood6196 Жыл бұрын
I dont have any fancy new ax's except a chinese hatchet I paid $10 for and wore out handle. All my ax's are old, many were rusted or chipped. I've cleaned them up and rehung them. I do have a 2-1/2lb HB boys ax. But i mainly split wood and use heavier 4 & 4-1/2lb Tassies as thats where I'm from. But I do like the Council tool products, so many folks dont need high end European hand forged ax's that aren't made for their area or conditions. Council gets handles too.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Well said
@tompossessed1729
@tompossessed1729 Жыл бұрын
This is a good video because I have always wonder what steel those Swedish axes are made of and are racing axe made of 1055 to 1095 steel because it seem like the deal
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, I would like HB to tell us what steel they use! Pretty confident it’s 1055 though. Racing axes get into all kinds of crazy steels, everything from 1055 to s7, and more.
@tompossessed1729
@tompossessed1729 Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack I doubt racing axes are made form anything up the 1055 to 1095 steel because for thier size the prices are like comparable to other axes like granforbruks felling axes
@barbelfer7874
@barbelfer7874 Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍🪓 you've got a new subscriber 🔥🔥
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome thanks man!
@eddiekytia
@eddiekytia Жыл бұрын
Hey...... just came across your channel and subscribed. So I've always bought cheap big box stores axes but I have a small piece of property now and want a QUALITY small axe but I'm not familiar with them... so I was looking at the gransfors bruks small forest axe or Scandinavian forest axe UNTILL I SAW A FEW VIDEOS OF THEESE COUNCIL TOOL AXES........ so I'm a short burly man looking for the best quality axe for limbing firewood and chopping small trees at home or camp site. What wood be your recommended axe say under 400 bucks.... thanks for the videos and your help
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by! I would say get two axes, a boys ax that is 2 1/4 pounds and a 28 inch handle. Than a splitting ax or maul. The Small forest ax is a great choice. I also like the Velvicut boys axes. You could look to Germany as well. The Bison mountain axe is great and Helko makes awesome axes in this size range. Any old splitter will do, but I like the ox head splitting axes. Council Tool also makes a great heavy duty splitting ax. There are so many combinations in this size, weight, and price range. My recommendation would be to take a look around and see what style you like
@julesgardet659
@julesgardet659 4 ай бұрын
Love Axes, I see you too.
@ftf1987
@ftf1987 3 ай бұрын
Great video and analysis. Council's premium line also seems to avoid their major critique of less than stellar handle hanging. It would be interesting to see them market unhung heads through a distributor or two much like Prandi...especially if it knocked $10-20 off their economy line price as well as shipping.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@davidcoats1037
@davidcoats1037 2 жыл бұрын
Jersey pattern Velvicut in 5160 for the win!!! (With 30”, 32”,36” or no handle options)😃👍🏼
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! That would be a great axe. I love a 30-32 inch handle
@randystrand908
@randystrand908 Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack Length has been a question I have as I have several axes needing a new heft! I'm 6'2" with sleeve length 35" & 250 lbs (but hoping to drop back to 220! Is there a general way to determine best axe length (especially felling) or is it all personal preference?
@Zanathane
@Zanathane Жыл бұрын
Have you tried CT's splitting axe? Trying to decide if I get one of their jerseys for all around use, or if maybe I pick up the splitting axe and the boys axe.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
I have the FE6, and fallers axe, which is pretty much the same head as the splitter on a shorter handle. Love them both, excellent axes. The jersey is tough to beat for me, although I would guess the boys axe and a splitter would be a great combination.
@Austinhigh516
@Austinhigh516 8 ай бұрын
I saw the 5160 forest axe from council and the velvicut 5160. I am moving to a wooded parcel next year and can't decide which one to get. The velvicut looks nicer and has a lifetime warranty but the forest axe is the same 5160 steel and doesn't seem to say anything about warranty. Do you know the main difference between the 2?
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 8 ай бұрын
For basic woodland management it’s really hard to go wrong with the Velvicut boys axe. I’d probably pair that with the jersey classic from CT on a 32 inch handle, and then their 5 pound splitter. Those would cover pretty much all your basics if you want to work with axes. Add the flying fox to it, and now that’s really all anybody needs. Want though is another question! 😂
@chrish920
@chrish920 8 ай бұрын
What’re you using for that overstrike guard on the Forceable Entry Axe?
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 8 ай бұрын
As I recall this is hockey tape.
@chrish920
@chrish920 8 ай бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack Nice, might have to give that a try soon
@NorThenX047
@NorThenX047 Жыл бұрын
Does Council Tools make a good camp/bushcraft axe with a handle between 15-20" and 1-2 lb head? I like the idea of a hardened poll as well for additional utility and durability. I'm in Canada and it seems like their prices are even above Gransfors which is insane to me. I can't find husqvarna near me either except for the ugly composite shite
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
For hardened polls they have the woodcraft pack axe, which I have and like a lot. It has a 19 and 24 inch handle option, 2 lb head. It is a bit spendy even here in the states but it’s a great axe that I have used hard and never failed me.
@asmith7876
@asmith7876 Жыл бұрын
Their Camp Carver is a beautiful piece too, two different handle lengths. Great for usual axe work but an excellent carver as well. Mine came super sharp, it’s been a great piece for which I paid a lot of $$$.
@johnseropyan
@johnseropyan Жыл бұрын
Hello. I would like to order a set of axes/hatchets to cover all needs from utility, camping to splitting logs. What would be your recommendation. Great video. Thank you
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
The answer would depend a lot on budget. A really solid and affordable set up, all from council tool, is the flying fox for a hatchet, woodcraft pack axe for a medium duty/limbing axe, 3.5 pound jersey on a 30 inch handle for a felling axe and then if you would like a dedicated splitter I like the oxe head splitting axes. Great price and will last forever. I do like Swedish axes a lot but they get expensive in the US. There’s a lot of value in some hults Bruk axes like the Montreal pattern for a medium duty axe, and also their hatchets are great. They do take some tuning up though.
@johnseropyan
@johnseropyan Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack what about the higher end stuff from Council Tool and if there is. I budget limit which axes would you recommend? Thx
@johnseropyan
@johnseropyan Жыл бұрын
*no budget limit
@AaronJensen-hp9vq
@AaronJensen-hp9vq 6 ай бұрын
Just got a hultafors HY 10-1,5 SV. Had a estwing 26" camp axe. I like 1055 to be honest. Id rather a softer steel for hard use tools. I paid around $100 CAD for the Estwing, $155 CAD for the hultafors. Heat treats makes a big diff and the design/structure for the need/utilization. I have found over my life (with knives) that i prefer "lower quality" steels over the "super steels". The benchmade i had dis nit serve my utilization like D2, 420HC and the best knife ive ever had is the CRKT M21-04G with a "cheap" german steel". You learn what you like in the field, or with utilization in accordance with your needs.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 6 ай бұрын
That’s great advice thanks for sharing!
@Gerwaldfried
@Gerwaldfried Жыл бұрын
Maybe mentionable: Blade geometry and heat treatment are more important than the differences in the „carbon“ steels. BTW: you said 60 percent somewhere in the video if I heard it correct- this would be a little to much carbon… ;-) BTW2: here in Germany often used axes are from „Ochsenkopf“. Half the price of swedish axes and they do their job well. No fancy things. Tools to work with. My „ochsenkopf Iltis“ is chopping for decades now without complaints.
@elihollingsworth6852
@elihollingsworth6852 2 жыл бұрын
Have a local hardware store that sells council axes and I can confirm that they are extremely well made.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
That would be great! I need to order all mine online which adds a ton for shipping. Which axe do you use the most?
@elihollingsworth6852
@elihollingsworth6852 2 жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack double bit and also the Velvicut hatchet
@insanejughead
@insanejughead Жыл бұрын
I sharpened one of my CT's back in Sept '19 and ended up slicing my foot open soon afterward. Fun memory. My gf was freaking out, but I kept her calm so that she could get me to the ER after we sent out for pizza because I hid the injury long enough.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that, but cool story! Axe injuries are some of the worst
@Austinhigh516
@Austinhigh516 8 ай бұрын
Excuse me the 5160 woodcraft axe from council not the forest axe. I can't seem to figure out which would suit me better. I'll be felling pine trees and chopping firewood. The woodcraft axe is more money and seems to have a black coating which I don't really know the purpose of. So ya I will be felling some pine trees and mainly chopping, would you recommend the velvicut or the woodcraft?
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 8 ай бұрын
I follow. For work purposes the boys axe will be much better. I really like the pack axe for what its designed to do, but it can’t compete with the boys axe if you’re looking to do forestry work. The black coating is basically the forged finish. What I did with mine is sand away the coating from the cheeks, and the axe looks beautiful.
@wesbodine6102
@wesbodine6102 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot now I want to buy them all LOL!
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Haha I have the same disease. But it’s cheaper than drinking at the bar right?
@wesbodine6102
@wesbodine6102 Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack I have five axes tha belonged to both Grampas One is a Kelly two bit one is a Mann Boys axe one is a what must be a first year production Estwing hatchet and another that is what I guess to be a 1940's vintage Craftsman double bit :)
@KNIGHTRACEDOTCOM
@KNIGHTRACEDOTCOM Жыл бұрын
I am an Axe man. I love my GFB but I have had one with such a bad handle I had to return it, I like my Council tool. The 36" curved is best axe in my life for money,. Have the woodcraft axes but like my GFSB better.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Curious about the handle, what was the issue there? Nothing like finding a good axe you really like.
@SupermanBB
@SupermanBB Жыл бұрын
I do agree. Hults Bruk new marketing towards that Agdor line is only to reduce the time spent refining axe heads. Just slap a bunch of blue paint over em,slap a sticker and call em good. I understand why… they recognized that the Montreal pattern was selling well and receiving good reviews, so they capitalized by expanding that line. I have that same agdor Montreal pattern and I do actually like it. But when I stripped the blue paint, the axe head surface is horrendous. Worst I’ve ever seen on an axe. LEAVE THE BLUE PAINT ONN!! Lol. Still a solid axe once you sand down the handle and reprofile the bit to your liking
@Tony.795
@Tony.795 Жыл бұрын
The Agdor line was always called the Agdor line in the European market. They're the same exact axes as the ones in North America except for the different name. They retained the bead blasted finish here. But they don't sell the Montreal here, which is strange because they wouldn't even have to ship them so far. Is it just the forged finish underneath?
@shauncatlett6066
@shauncatlett6066 Жыл бұрын
I have two Velvicut axes and a fiberglass us forestry axe from Council. Harry J Epstein carries a ton on New Old Stock axes that were made for the U.S. Forestry too.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
I love Harry Epstein, I’ll need to check out their new old stock of axes. I have ordered from them several times
@shauncatlett6066
@shauncatlett6066 Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack Steve has 50 of the forestry axes last time i checked both online and in the store. You will need to buy a leather sheath for the forrestry axes though.
@glbwoodsbum2567
@glbwoodsbum2567 Жыл бұрын
Great video my friend. However, you did state that Council tool uses 1055 steel when in fact I believe they use 1060 Steel. Forgive me if I'm incorrect. Once again, great video!!
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being nice about it! You are correct about that. I didn’t catch it until after the video was published, and the comments started pointing it out.
@bjdenil
@bjdenil Жыл бұрын
Husqavarna is made by Hults Bruk and I tend to like them better. I have ooly ever had amaizing GB axes. Love my Scandanavian Forest Axe. To me it is near perfect.
@bjdenil
@bjdenil Жыл бұрын
I like the 1055 it is easier to sharpen and still holds a great edge.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
I’ve definitely formed that same opinion over the last two years. Husqvarna is a great value. I think I may need to reevaluate that opinion though. I saw several HB axes at the blade show this weekend, and was impressed. Much better handles, full polish on the bit, much higher level of finish.
@derrick9653
@derrick9653 2 жыл бұрын
4140 is used in low end gun barrels. It's more than sufficient for an axe! Also, my Husqvarna carpenter axe is supposedly made by Hultz but costs 1/2 the price of their "normal" axes.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! The Husqvarna carpenters axe is awesome. Checks alot of boxes for value and quality. Amazing about 4140 in gun barrels. The force it needs to absorb without taking damage must be huge. Thanks for watching!
@YankeeWoodcraft
@YankeeWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
My Husqvarna Carpenter's Axe came better hung than anything else I've owned. Definitely made my Hults Bruk. When they were made by Wetterlings IIRC, there were issues, but that's a Wetterlings thing. I believe Gransfors brought out Wetterlings and just brought them into their line of offerings instead of them being their own brand. But my Husky axe? Amazing fit & finish and build quality. Hults Bruk (aka Hultafors) is the oldest axe maker in Sweden (well over 3 centuries old). My grain orientation was perfectly vertical and nice & tight. The head was hung level with a proper forward tilt, but not racked.
@scottiebaldwin
@scottiebaldwin Жыл бұрын
It’s good to watch people who know their shit!
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@scottiebaldwin
@scottiebaldwin Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack I just ordered a Council Tool 24” Pack Axe because of your video. I was sold on a Gransfors Bruk Small Forest Axe until I saw your review. I even called Council Tool and told them about you. They said they were well aware of you! Nice job and thanks again. I can’t wait to add that axe to my arsenal when I go into the BWCA multiple times per summer!
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy it! I really like my pack axe, it’s been very good to have at the campsite. One of my viewers dogsleds in Alaska over very long distances and pretty much trusts his life to the pack axe. It’s a great axe.
@BananaBabys
@BananaBabys Жыл бұрын
I have the boys axe. No complaints. Had it for a really long time, like almost 10 years. It isnt “fancy” but its a workhorse that I beat up.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Those are great axes!
@johnsmithfakename8422
@johnsmithfakename8422 7 ай бұрын
I am a bit of a steel snob and I personally think 8670 is a steel that seems like it would make for excellent axe steel. In the industry, 8670 is used in band saws and sawblades. As a knife steel it is one of the toughest steels on the market.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 7 ай бұрын
I would absolutely like to see more steels used in axe manufacturing. I’ve always thought it’s strange that knife makers use hundreds of steel types but axes are limited to mid carbon, 5160, s7 for racing axes, and if you’re really lucky a few guys make axes from 52100.
@drums2go615
@drums2go615 Ай бұрын
What is anybody know about Collins acts? I have a 4 lb and I also have a 2 and 1/4 lb voice ax. I love them. I can handle some business with those things so far!!
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Ай бұрын
Vintage Collins is good stuff
@heathenfirewoodservice2021
@heathenfirewoodservice2021 10 ай бұрын
It pains me to admit but I had an incredible Council tool velvicut American felling ax and I managed to lose the thing. Not sure where it went. Its more than likely leaning up against a tree in the forest. I’ve looked high and low and I can’t find it. I seem to look for it once a year or when I think of it just to see if I can find it. I’m going to give it go this weekend. Maybe I’ll get lucky this time. Otherwise I’ll probably get another one.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 10 ай бұрын
Oh man that’s the worst!! I hope you find it. I lost a sheath at a milling site a while ago and when I came back a few months later there it was! Hoping you can have the same luck!
@heathenfirewoodservice2021
@heathenfirewoodservice2021 10 ай бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack thanks. I’m sure it’s long gone in the woods. I can’t for the life of me think of where I could have set it or left it. I noticed that I could find it when I moved 3 years ago.
@grant6245
@grant6245 Жыл бұрын
Do CT "premium" axes suffer from the same defects you addressed in one of your past videos?
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
I haven’t experienced any issues with the premium lines. They seem solid
@OnceUponAnotherTime
@OnceUponAnotherTime 15 күн бұрын
"Council Tool is the only company I'm aware of that uses a higher grade of steel in their premium axe line (Woodcraft and Velvicut) that justify the price increase." Exactly. That, and they still keep the margin tight considering how much time and effort their staff puts into getting that hang and bit just right for you. That's a lot right there. (Then again, if you plan to customize your ax *at all*, why in the world would you buy a Velicut *except* maybe for the difference in steel? And do you need that little bit of difference? The Sports Utility line is right in the Goldilocks zone. Hard and durable enough; still easy to maintain the edge. Otherwords, not too hard, not too soft: Goldilocks!
@FT4Freedom
@FT4Freedom 4 ай бұрын
I just bought a HB Qvarfot. Light head, long handle. Handle is fat. But I can remove the extra material myself. Backpack axe in boreal forest.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 4 ай бұрын
Great axe!
@therubycompany1854
@therubycompany1854 Жыл бұрын
i know you've made videos of heads coming loose on Council Tools axes before. Does the Woodcraft not have that issue?
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
I have the camp carver and pack axe. Neither head has come loose and I’ve used them extensively at this point.
@therubycompany1854
@therubycompany1854 Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack that’s awesome. And you put a new wedge in though right? Was it just a preference or did it originally come loose? I’m def looking at getting the woodcraft pack axe. So I appreciate your input
@joeanthony2312
@joeanthony2312 Жыл бұрын
Ive used the council tool miners axe for years and have done some absolutely horrible things to them ( cutting rocks steel nails etx) and they seem to do well
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
I love my miners axe. Awesome to keep by my stove for kindling.
@hillbilly4christ638
@hillbilly4christ638 Жыл бұрын
I have a jersey with a 24" handle and that thing is a beast. I have hit things that should have messed up the edge and it is still perfect. The edge retention is outstanding and the sharpness is what really sets any axe apart. Kudos to the company and their product line. I own a small brush axe and that thing is scary the way it chops saplings.
@arthurkhan8142
@arthurkhan8142 Жыл бұрын
I know you don't want to be a sellout but I would appreciate it if you had an affiliate link for your preferred axes available. I like to get what is specifically reviewed and would appreciate it if I didn't have to dig for it. Thanks for the wonderful review
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion, I got to look into that.
@PaulK390S90V
@PaulK390S90V 2 жыл бұрын
Your personal honest opinion, 1080hc axe...yay or nay? Looking at one that's handmade and not sure if it would be amazing or better choices
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would depend on the heat treat, and hardness. 1080 is really high carbon content for an axe, I would be worried about chipping and cracking. But I’m really not familiar with that steel in an axe so couldn’t say until I get my hands on one.
@PaulK390S90V
@PaulK390S90V 2 жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack I think I may go the 5160 council tool route! Or a 4140 axe. Great video!
@PaulK390S90V
@PaulK390S90V 2 жыл бұрын
FYI 4140 has .85% (1 in 4140) manganese. Just thought I would let you know. 4140 seems to be the axe steel thar keeps coming up...thinking of going that direction compared to a 1080 HC axe I've been looking at. Not sure though..
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I like 4140 steel, it’s real tough and great for splitting.
@PaulK390S90V
@PaulK390S90V 2 жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack after hearing your talk on the 5160 though...I'm going with the 24" Council tools #2 wood craft axe! Don't need a full size but if I ever do I know where to come for the right one! Your video was very informative and your experience speaks for itself! Take care
@Flockingtheherd
@Flockingtheherd Жыл бұрын
I just purchased a miners axe from council tools but I just noticed on their website and it says nothing about the steel on the axe. All it says is steel made in America. So I’m kinda dissapointed in that. Is the premium steel only available on the forcible entry axe?? For the same price?
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Council Tool is pretty good about labeling specific steals. The miners axe is 1060, I have it and use it a lot for splitting firewood wedges down. It’s great. Premium lines are 5160. The forcible entry axe is 4140 because it’s made to be beat on for firefighting use. 4140 isn’t really a “premium” stew, but is really well suited for taking abuse. I love it for splitting axes.
@CJKnous
@CJKnous 10 ай бұрын
What make is the Axe you are Holding at the 2min Mark ?
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack 10 ай бұрын
That is the Gransfors Bruk broad axe
@earlmcknight3580
@earlmcknight3580 Жыл бұрын
I have a CT 3 lb.cedar ax .Not sure when it was made.Not many made by CT.Only seen one other on the net It's a good one.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Cedar axes are great patterns. I didn’t know CT made one that’s a rare find for sure.
@earlmcknight3580
@earlmcknight3580 Жыл бұрын
@@urbanlumberjack It has a number 3 stamped deep on the rear side of the ax head and a not so deep CT trademark stamp about middle of the ax head.Thoughts are it was made when it became necessary clearing cedar in texas when there was overgrowth. A pic of one is on txbushcraft forum,council tool cedar pattern.The pattern originated in texas.
@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo
@WhiskeyRiverTradingCo Жыл бұрын
The CT Standard line Classic Jersey is 1060 not 1055. The whole SU line is 1060
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
That’s my understanding, not sure if I said different in the video, but misspoke if I did.
@terryhatton3622
@terryhatton3622 Жыл бұрын
I do have a wood craft pack axe.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
Great axe!
@matthewbutcher203
@matthewbutcher203 Жыл бұрын
I think they use 4140 in heavy truck axles might be wrong but pretty sure so if so pretty tough steel
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
It’s very tough steel, that would make sense
@aaronwilcox6417
@aaronwilcox6417 Жыл бұрын
4140 is used a lot in machinery and vehicle output shafts. I'm not 100% about axles but it wouldn't surprise me if that what is used. 5160 and 6150 are found in vehicle and truck springs.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
I think that’s right. Makes a very durable axe. The forest service used to specify 4140 steel a lot.
@robertphillips3833
@robertphillips3833 Жыл бұрын
Hoffman Axes uses all 4140 steel in their production. They’re expensive, and there’s a wait to get one, but they’re awesome axes.
@urbanlumberjack
@urbanlumberjack Жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting choice for their steel. I would have assumed they would use either higher carbon or an alloy of some kind. I haven’t used one but have heard they’re pretty nice!
@guruprotman
@guruprotman 7 ай бұрын
@@urbanlumberjackHoffman actually uses 4142 steel. What is your opinion on 4142? Thanks for the great content
@KEVINSEPTEMBER
@KEVINSEPTEMBER Жыл бұрын
Any recommendations on where to purchase?
@urbanlumberjack
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For sure. Harry Epstein, wisemen trading, or whiskey river trading co.
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