Yahweh's Amazing Test (Abraham, Genesis 22)
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12 жыл бұрынI think it's very important to remember that a god can do whatever it wants - a god could even come up with a better thing to be impressed by than a human's willingness to stab and burn their own child. (Read on...)
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A god could, instead, choose to give rewards for doing... you know, .... things that improve the world.
I'm trying to think of what, about this story, would impress a modern-day courtroom that Abraham was a stable, balanced member of society that deserved rewards for his actions. Obviously - none in the civilized world ever would. Does that mean that "civilization" is completely immoral? We would put anybody who fully obeyed the god of the bible in prison. What. Does. That. Tell. You?
As I ask in the video - if agreeing to stab and burn your own child is a test of righteousness, then WTF would a test of psychopathy look like?
Why do people look to the bible for righteousness?
IT'S GOT THE WHOLE THING COMPLETELY FUCKING BACKWARDS!
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There's a typo in the footnote at 6:09.
I've quoted Psalm 143:13, but I meant verse 17; "The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works."
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@beth-rg8bm 6 жыл бұрын
Why would an all knowing god need to test anyone?
@phrygiandominant6989 6 жыл бұрын
beth98362 R Because He's an illogical, tyrannous psychopath. Well, He would be if He existed.
@MegaJoka100 6 жыл бұрын
vmfivethree Thats an nice idea, but the feat of being omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent would allow you to ignore this problem all at once. This means he can do everything you can think of and even more. Because if he would not know what Abraham will do he is not omniscient.
@oremooremo5075 6 жыл бұрын
Joschi But the same characters comtradict themselves and each other
@paradisecityX0 6 жыл бұрын
beth98362 R Because the person being tested needs to acknowledge the extent of his faithfulness. That's like asking why the teacher tests her brightest student even though she knows he can do it
@paradisecityX0 6 жыл бұрын
clip11 Why can't the teacher just tell the students how bright they are? Would they disbelieve the teacher?
@tahilaci2976 10 жыл бұрын
If someone told me that my descendants would be numerous if I kill my only son, I'd be a bit suspicious.
@clementnade972 6 жыл бұрын
Hey. Just have faith. Your reward will be great.
@louistournas120 6 жыл бұрын
+Clement Lee: "Hey. Just have faith. Your reward will be great." ==No thank you. I don't want to kill anybody just because a self proclaimed god says so.
@louistournas120 6 жыл бұрын
+wmfivethree:I don't know what you mean by self-proclaimed part. Please clarify.
@TheRobdarling 6 жыл бұрын
wmfivethree I think they used to use dog years counting age in those days...
@louistournas120 5 жыл бұрын
+wmfivethree: "with no possible naturalistic explanation" ==I can give a naturalistic explanation. It is just ink on paper. Anyone can grab a pen and write down whatever their imagination produces. With enough time and since these stories come from a time when humans were superstitious, they started to believe the stories as factual. ^^^^^^^^^^^There you go. A perfectly natural explanation. This sort of thing probably happened in every culture.
@MusicMetalHead 7 жыл бұрын
Been an atheist for years, but these videos are slowly bringing me around to the idea of a bumbling raging God being barely held in check by his son and a massive workforce of angels who are 110% fed up with his shit.
@sagerider2 7 жыл бұрын
110%? They're Angels, surely they can do better than that?
@RetroBackslash 6 жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting Donald Trump is God? 🤣
@charimonfanboy 6 жыл бұрын
Having read God's own propaganda material, Lucifer's side is both obvious and morally justified
@DGA2000 6 жыл бұрын
MusicMetalHead: Now you know why there was a mutiny
@cgme7076 5 жыл бұрын
"Lucifer's side" is literally a metaphor for anyone that goes against God's word. "You don't like what he said? Fine. Then you're banished to hell for eternity." Religious teachings are so damn transparent.
@TheAntiTrope 6 жыл бұрын
"Why do people always want to bring facts into this?" - Religion 2018.
@ajnieves9153 4 жыл бұрын
Christianity isn't about religion it's about a relationship with God.
@Jambuc829 4 жыл бұрын
AJ religion; noun. *the belief in and worship* of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
@jonathanconnor7920 4 жыл бұрын
@@ajnieves9153 _It's about a relationship with god._ "Translation:* _It's about religion._
@Username-or9nr 4 жыл бұрын
Religion 2020 as well
@so1vae 4 жыл бұрын
more like “Religion ♾”
@StarGazerJim 6 жыл бұрын
Isaac will need therapy after that, lots of therapy.
@tastyloaf5487 5 жыл бұрын
@Mrreciprocat I noticed that :O
@wslbmg 5 жыл бұрын
Isaac can join job in the loony bin with ptsd.
@richNfit4life 5 жыл бұрын
And he’ll need tissue paper too. Lots of tissue paper.
@n-silvabts9178 5 жыл бұрын
no therapy can solve living with a father who did that.
@russelledwards7084 5 жыл бұрын
Well no he wouldent he was only 6 months old at this alter of this ritual . But who are we to question Gods judgement he is just because man's heart is so wicked that we make up God's of other kinds rape women kill people and all the other stuff .
@mickeythompson9537 6 жыл бұрын
"...Well I ordered it, so that automatically means there must be some context in which it was perfectly good and righteous..." Brilliant!
@daniellehutchison3585 Ай бұрын
Sounds like it's coming right out of William Lane Craig's mouth
@easyas314 10 жыл бұрын
It takes religion to get otherwise moral people to do terrible, immoral things.
@tiredtypes1260 4 жыл бұрын
wmfivethree i mean, he did almost die. Imagine if a child almost died at the hands of his father. Just because the child lived, doesn’t mean that the father wasn’t doing a terrible, immoral thing. Please stop justifying attempted murder just because your irrational god wants to both be punishing and loving/loved.
@chandlerburns2381 4 жыл бұрын
@wmfivethree Where in the bible does it say that he knew and was calling God's bluff? Is this written in the bible or is this just your interpretation?
@chandlerburns2381 4 жыл бұрын
So.... what your saying isn't a fact...its an opinion, I figured have a good day guy...
@Schneeregen_ 4 жыл бұрын
@wmfivethree Yeah, but God didn't stop Jepthah from killing his daughter and offering her as a burnt sacrifice, some translations may say otherwise but the original Hebrew version uses the word for "burnt offering"
@Schneeregen_ 4 жыл бұрын
@wmfivethree Have you read Jepthah, it doesn't have to do with Abraham's story or an interpretation of it, Jepthah promised to sacrifice whatever came out of his home first when he came back from war if god helped him. Then when his daughter came out (honestly what did he think would greet him) he got angry about having to kill her and took 2 months to do it because he really didn't want to, 2 months that God could have stopped this and at the end of those 2 months Jepthah kills his daughter and burns her. My point is that you can't say God is great because he prevented a human sacrifice he commanded, when he did nothing to intervene in a human sacrifice he commanded that took months to be performed.
@thecommiesalami9217 4 жыл бұрын
When i was a Christian the sunday school teacher put me in the corner for bringing up god's and Abraham's mental state in this story
@sundayoliver3147 10 ай бұрын
Yep, you had to be sacrificed for disobeying, too.
@Sabbathtage 7 ай бұрын
I really wish I could have given that kid some kind of "Actually Moral" merit badge. Good on you. You should be proud of your young self. It drove me crazy to see kind, religious people nodding their heads to this madness.
@seanmcmichael2551 7 ай бұрын
@thecommiesalami What .... they sent you to the corner?! Why didn't they just give you the very simple and straightforward understanding of how it all makes sense. Oh, wait ....
@biggsleezy 9 жыл бұрын
I don't even see why so-called good Christians preach this, even if it was a metaphor, the only lesson I can get out of it is this; "no matter how crazy or inhumane something sounds do it as long as God tells you to, he might somehow interfere and make it less inhumane". I was mostly reminded about this at Sunday school when I was young in Nigeria, I was even afraid to question it and just concluded that it was justified, now that I'm older, more confident and smarter in a different environment I know better than to just go along with the story.
@justsomeguy6336 8 жыл бұрын
They don't read the Bible, they're stupid, or both.
@sagerider2 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, I don't think they read the bible, because, as my favorite author, Isaac Asimov said, "Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
@wildsurvival4306 7 жыл бұрын
The entire purpose of the religion is to degrade mankind somehow. Thus sayeth the LORD your God: You shall spread apart thy butt cheeks and I shall display my glory by inserting my member.
@kelthekonqrr 6 жыл бұрын
I'm still in this country and it's even worse
@Augfordpdoggie 6 жыл бұрын
as an american atheist in africa, one of the most distrubing things that has happened to African culture is the devout belief of this immoral book, without question.
@genehall8895 6 жыл бұрын
The story of Abraham is probably the keystone responsible, for my questioning religion.
@mrcurly1147 6 жыл бұрын
How do you pick just one when there is a silly book full of reasons not to believe in the magic fairy in the sky.
@matts08091 5 жыл бұрын
Then you don’t understand the meaning of the story.
@ededdneddy988 5 жыл бұрын
There were many in my case the main one being Job's story
@greasehardbody4018 5 жыл бұрын
Same, man.
@greasehardbody4018 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrcurly1147 Yeah but some of us were born into Christianity, or went to Christian elementary schools, where the stories were fed to us so frequently that they became reality. This story, though, managed to be so fucked up that even my indoctrinated brain couldn't tolerate it.
@jayedgardyson1920 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot give you high enough praise, oh non-stamp collector, than to say I’ve rewatched all your comedic jewels several times - they are always hilarious and, ironically, never “get old/dated”. One of THE most brilliant and entertaining KZfaq channels, bar none.
@kingofgrim4761 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree, found him just a few months after u posted this comment, and it really helped me realize just how crazy it is to believe the Bible lol
@ikioh 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the only critic I have here is just that there are too few videos!! I have been refreshing the channel every day to wait for new videos to pop up :'(
@lauriesoper4056 2 жыл бұрын
Damn straight.
@Former_Pastor Жыл бұрын
@@kingofgrim4761 exactly 😂
@ttthecat 7 ай бұрын
Agreed I am here in 2024!
@stevekaczynski3793 Жыл бұрын
Gabriel is middle management who really should be promoted.
@Bunny1918 10 жыл бұрын
Must... kill... I... kill... this... God... very... happy It's the best line I've heard in a long time. And those eyes:D
@paul-ye3ut 3 жыл бұрын
Except Abraham wasn't a homeless looking murder obsessed dumbass he was sad he had to kill his soon and his son accepted his death gracefully knowing he would soon be with god
@radekchrabota 3 жыл бұрын
@@paul-ye3ut Yeah that definitely didn't happen, if your own father tricked you into coming with to a secluded place an then tried to sacrifice you to god would you "gracefully accept your death" or would you frick the fuck out like a normal person? And if some voice in your head told you it was god and that you needed to kill your own son would you be like "yeah this checks out" or would you think you were going insane?
@paul-ye3ut 3 жыл бұрын
@@radekchrabota were not talking about me were talking about the Bible Abraham in the Bible was sad but he understood it was God's will and Isaac his son was taught God is good so he must have a good reason to want him dead so Isaac graceful accepted his death atleast thats how the Bible portrays it. I don't know what I would do if I heard voices claiming to be God it depends on what there saying for me to do what they said
@paul-ye3ut 3 жыл бұрын
@Barney that happens allot when I was a kid I was a heavy Christian if a priest let me hear the voice of God and that voice was only in my head and it said give your asshole to him I would have done it and I wouldn't have called it rape thats how a cult works and that's how most organized religion is
@paul-ye3ut 3 жыл бұрын
@Barney i actually stopped talking to my brother because he was an atheist and I wanted to kill myself when I found out that there might not be a god of this world
@stevytube 9 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Only an insane person, or a psychopath would attempt to kill his or her own child based on thinking that god told him or her to do it.
@hackman669 9 жыл бұрын
stevytube Some of these stories are simply cruel. Most stories have some kind of moral value, but killing an innocent is simply wrong.
@weekend9057 8 жыл бұрын
How dare you call God insane! Well he didn't kill his son (who was himself, to please himself) but he made it happen because he told himself too
@jilliansmith7123 6 жыл бұрын
Hackman: seriously, I don't know that "most" bible stories have some kind of moral value. I'd say most of them do NOT. Which is the opposite of what I was taught. But once I started reading it for myself, without first begging god to "bless it to my heart" or whatever, suddenly it became hideous. And weird. Very, very weird. Most of it is illegal today, immoral, unethical at the best...Working for 7 years to get a bride, then having her sister foisted off on you and having to work another 7 years? HOW IS THAT RIGHT? One story of thousands that show no decency at all.
@johnwhatley7642 5 жыл бұрын
@stevytube late but... i think thats the point of this stories inclusion in the text. It's a story of faithfulness to G-d that defies logic. It can and has been used to justify control and authority of the Church but idk even Jesus did like most church leaders very much. Accusing them of basically being more about power and money than salvation and the greater community.
@ոakedsquirtle 5 жыл бұрын
I'd kill everyone I knew and burn down my house for God if he asked tbh. Heaven is the ultimate reward for the obedient.
@Mrepifany 8 жыл бұрын
This video makes me sad and confused about everything I've ever been taught my entire life. :-(
@kevinnio 8 жыл бұрын
+Mr Epifany Research, my friend. Get your morals and facts straight. Peace.
@jeffreydumaplin3690 8 жыл бұрын
that is alright. you are not alone. at least you can now think for yourself.
@jeffreydumaplin3690 8 жыл бұрын
Really? Atheism is just a default position on the existence of god/gods. It does not "think" for you. You think critically for yourself. Unlike the Judeo-Christian tradition, you have set of dogmas you adhere to. The story of Abraham and Isaac is one of the most disgusting story ever if you really think about it. Abraham heard voices on his head and cut his foreskin then proceeded to murder his son as a sacrifice to the voice in his head. What we can really say about this is: blind faith can justify anything even the attempted slaughter of your own son.
@JustTheHighlights 8 жыл бұрын
+Nate Jay You seem to lack critical thinking skills.
@NathanYudnich 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeffrey Dumaplin And faith led to the crucifixion of God's only begotten Son. There was a reason for Abraham, this isn't just some random act... And your "default position" is nothing more then appealing to ignorance. You weren't born believing in God? You weren't born in believing in anything.. Care to explain how that makes sense?
@swiftmk5480 3 жыл бұрын
5:57 “And if I broke a promise.. can you imagine?? I’d look.. Unethical or something!” THAT GOT ME
@jesourit 7 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant, the story of Abraham traumatises me. That a father would so willingly attempt to kill his son...and this is preached to children. Wake up people!
@Natalie12905 3 ай бұрын
it is so horrible
@Ghost_Of_SAS 10 жыл бұрын
I bet the angel who stopped Abraham from killing his son in Moriah was actually Gandalf
@greendeist7174 7 жыл бұрын
Ghost81 liar.
@AbandonedVoid 7 жыл бұрын
+Ghost81 In ancient Judaic tradition, it was actual Samael. You know, the devil. Makes you seriously rethink who the good guy is.
@futuramaniak 6 жыл бұрын
Actually his name was Moroniel...
@Alistairhasalongname 6 жыл бұрын
Nah it was definitely Aslan
@EsDoncor 6 жыл бұрын
what? no! gandalf aint no angel, it was galadriel
@tobymartin2137 6 жыл бұрын
How much better a story would this have been had God rewarded Abraham for refusing to gut his own child just because he was told to?
@Miners666 4 жыл бұрын
I believe there is one version where he does, where Abraham finds the goat to sacrifice of his own agency. Earlier Abraham begs and confronts God not to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, that a just and good God would not do such a thing, so it fits in more with his character to refuse God later when God vindictively wants to punish said hubris by telling him to kill Isaac. All these stories, even if you were to believe they happened, have been corrupted over thousands of years with different narrators, retellings, cultures, edits, agendas and translations that you’d have to be an irrational brainwashed idiot to believe it’s literally word for word true.
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 жыл бұрын
This is an extremely modern idea, post-dating 1945. You should look at Milgram's "Obedience to Authority" for this lesson, not to the Bible. This story is just saying "don't sacrifice your children anymore, God doesn't like it", because that was a common custom in ancient Canaan.
@shaunigothictv1003 Жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis
@sundayoliver3147 10 ай бұрын
@@annaclarafenyo8185 Yeah, that was what I was taught, too. And now I'm looking at it and thinking, "Well, if he was a loving god, why did he do it in a way to cause emotional torture and an irreparable rift between Abraham and his son?" I'm not omniscient, and I can think of a few effective ways to get that message across without the torture part. Probably you could, too.
@annaclarafenyo8185 10 ай бұрын
@@sundayoliver3147 This has nothing to do with God the concept. The Bible isn't the word of God, it's an ancient book which describes the idea of God. The idea is what is important, not the descriptions. This story is designed to END child sacrifice. And it doesn't matter what stupid out-of-character things that version of God says or does, what matters is "Did the story stop child sacrifice?" And the answer is "Yes", because child sacrifice disappeared from ancient Canaan.
@searat666 10 жыл бұрын
Non Stamp, you need to write a script to be produced as a movie or tv series...I'll help you animate it if you'd like. These are pure genius, insightful, and an honest look at this archaic doctrine that is hindering the growth of our species. Fantastic job!
@Lumumba_00 Жыл бұрын
That would be nice.
@aaronmstevenson 10 жыл бұрын
Why are Christians here even trying to debate? Turn that cheek. I myself am looking forward to the video of when Yahweh created hell cause I can't find it.
@Sercil00 9 жыл бұрын
I remember being taught this story in school. Even as a kid, all the time, I was waiting for the teacher or someone to point out how screwed up it is, and how it really only proves Abraham is nuts. They'd just go on how this showed his loyalty. My mother told me the exact same reaction, how she was taught that story, and she thought she would never kill her own children, not even for God. As in, not even when there's no doubt God is real and wants this. This is what started making me scrutinize the bible. Oh surprise, almost every single story in there is like that.
@MarvelousLXVII 10 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as usual. I could watch these all week (except during the sabbath, of course)
@Zipporah15Latoya7 4 жыл бұрын
Marvelous Marv sda ?
@mangtasyo9088 10 жыл бұрын
IF GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING...THEN HE KNOWS THE RESULT OF THE TEST BEFORE HE GIVE THEM....SO WHAT THE POINT....POOR CHILD...JUST IMAGINE IF YOU ARE THE ONE LYING THERE....
@ThePenguinForge 10 жыл бұрын
I agree, but... why all caps?
@reneemerritt6572 5 жыл бұрын
God tested Abraham to see if he loved the lord more than his Son....
@reneemerritt6572 5 жыл бұрын
All of y'all read genesis.... Because y'all are going off by what this man or woman say. Don't let any man deceive you....
@nbeshark2584 5 жыл бұрын
@@reneemerritt6572 Wait, God is alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, he's omniscient, powerful, he even made the pharaoh angry to not let the israelites leave egypt, God can control the human heart(mind), why can't he just see if Abraham truly loves him, why can't God just travel in time to see if Abraham would do it.
@reneemerritt6572 5 жыл бұрын
@@nbeshark2584 Well If God controls the heart is that messing with our free will? And what good is it for Abraham if God did not test him. Like Abraham love his son and God test him to see if he love God more than his son. Like If you say that you love Lord and do nothing to prove that you love the Lord. Like what the New Testament it say that you love the Lord and your character is not like him than you lied.
@rjonboy7608 6 жыл бұрын
"Why do people always want to bring facts into this?" LMAO.
@michaelalexanders9966 8 жыл бұрын
You and Darkmatter2525 should produce a video together.
@VolcyThoughts 7 жыл бұрын
Stephen Bachman wait really?? You serious??
@michaelalexanders9966 7 жыл бұрын
Stephen Bachman He DID comment on a recent Darkmatter video. He still uses his account. I guess he burned out making these videos. Which is a shame. The world could always use more NonStampCollectors.
@Lost-Lilim 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Alexanders I would guess that he felt like he'd covered the pertinent arguments. After awhile you run the risk of treading the same ground over, and it wouldn't be nice to infringe on the apologists' shtick. :P
@michaelalexanders9966 7 жыл бұрын
Aquarium 7512 holy shit yes
@caelummanestar950 6 жыл бұрын
I had the same idea.
@lukatesseract 4 жыл бұрын
I actually learned about this story when I was still in a Catholic school. They treated it like it wasn't messed up or anything.
@capitalb5889 3 жыл бұрын
I was brought up a Catholic, but had never heard this story in church, only outside of it. I guess it was deemed too shocking for modern audiences
@reaper2579 Жыл бұрын
Probably it’s because they feared god if they use common sense on themselves…
@khaymari 9 жыл бұрын
And we wonder what the hell is wrong with people today...
@Itsatz0 8 жыл бұрын
+beka najm People are much better off today than they were when the church ran everything. Thank goodness for science.
@EntropyUniverse 12 жыл бұрын
I used to be a Christian but through discussions and watching videos on KZfaq I ended up with the strength to finally admit to myself that I was no longer a believer. As a person who was literally brainwashed from birth to believe, I see many people have no idea how difficult it is to make the transition from having doubts to outright disbelief. The guilt and fear instilled in children is real and terrifying. Videos like these certainly make the transition easier and I'm thankful for them.
@alwaysthinkforyourself7028 10 жыл бұрын
....wow.....Powerfully accurate. Christians really need to see these videos.
@tahilaci2976 10 жыл бұрын
Or read the Bible, it says the same.
@alwaysthinkforyourself7028 10 жыл бұрын
tahi laci Yes but they see what they want to when they read it.
@tahilaci2976 10 жыл бұрын
AlwaysThinkForYourself True, plus people usually leave out the gory bits.
@alwaysthinkforyourself7028 10 жыл бұрын
tahi laci Precisely. When I was a child, in the early 80s, I would sit there and wonder why the god of the bible had a split personality, due to the fact, that he wanted a man to kill his son, and then changed his mind. Seemed insane to me.
@vmelkon 10 жыл бұрын
AlwaysThinkForYourself Yahooway wanted to make sure that Abraham would do anything for him. At that point, the brain of the christian stops. They don't go further. They think the story is about obedience and they stop there.
@moneymikz 2 жыл бұрын
Even before I saw this I always thought wouldn't it be a much better story if Abraham raises the knife, starts to cry and says do what you will to me Lord but I will not harm my son. Much better lesson and highly quotable line, I guess I'm better at writing the Bible than they are
@bradleyhandsonjoehallschro5419 2 жыл бұрын
Your version is I think better. HOWEVER, your version doesn't depict or promote absolute blind obedience to a magical force.
@moneymikz 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradleyhandsonjoehallschro5419 yeah guess I kinda missed the point huh
@Cpl.Cadaver 3 жыл бұрын
"So humanity is now going to descend from a psychopath who obeys murderous voices in his head." Everything makes perfect sense now.
@ACW-dn9wb Жыл бұрын
Which one, Abraham or God? Because both seem equally viable for that description
@albertskoften1452 7 ай бұрын
@@ACW-dn9wb The real question is where the voices in God's Head are coming from.
@ACW-dn9wb 7 ай бұрын
@@albertskoften1452 Thats too scary to think about dude 😂, lol
@丫o 7 ай бұрын
@ACW-dn9wb Do you really need a distinction between the two? They were both characters created by men a few thousand years ago.
@Greenbd100 6 жыл бұрын
I love the angels in these vids
@ericscaillet2232 4 жыл бұрын
Yes...thank God for them
@stevekaczynski3793 Жыл бұрын
Abraham looks like he hasn't been getting much sleep...
@deepsea5348 8 жыл бұрын
The poor boy... I bet he was traumatized for life! Even if his mind were to block out the horrid memories, he would still have a terrible relationship with his own father! One that lacked of love, trust, and maybe even a shortage of empathy for him! I was bullied and harassed back at my old christian school for about 4 years. It's been almost two years since I escaped, and I still have issues from it. I still have trouble trusting and socializing with boys (since it was mostly boys who harassed me) and making genuine friends (because my so-called "friends" watched me as I suffered, and they never did anything)! If some bullying and harassment is all it takes to cause trust issues, than poor little Isaac must have been scared for life!
@joshuawright6156 5 жыл бұрын
Deep Sea Girl Abraham didn't lack love for his son. He thought it was crazy to do so... thinking about it logically. But he trusted NOT in his own understanding and trusted God's Word. He probably felt sorry that he was going to have to sacrifice his only son (at the time). Issac lived and just as it was documented that Saul was inhabited by spirits and David played the lyre to release the spirits from Saul - Don't you think that Moses would have documented what happened in Issac's body? Just food for thought. God bless. And I did read your comment and am sorry!
@nykerianash1590 5 жыл бұрын
Joshua Wright Wow the fact that you try to justify this fathers actions, no way would he be able to trust his father ever again, also you fairytale God is dumb, what’s the point of the test when he already knows the answer, remember God is supposed to know everything.
@aarongranquist 5 жыл бұрын
Joshua Wright “But he trusted NOT in his own understanding and trusted God’s Word.” Sickening NONSENSE. Mental...illness. This is the kind of man that would commit a mass shooting on God’s command and not think twice because he heard god’s word. Really, what kind of a sadistic psychopath of a god would toy with one of his most devout followers in such a cruel and deceptive way? If you’re willing to follow through with such orders, regardless of if anybody stops you, you’re a murderer and you’re sick as hell.
@ts4gv 3 жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair, God could’ve magically cleared his head & made him feel better about it. That’s what I’d say happened if I was a Christian, anyway. Have you ever tried playing the devil’s advocate on behalf of Christianity? It’s kinda fun, honestly.
@Mari-ik4rn 3 жыл бұрын
@@ts4gv So, god told Abraham to kill his son Isaac, and then he cleared Isaac's mind to either forget the incident or to make him feel better about almost being killed by his own father. What a righteous god.
@alexi3489 8 жыл бұрын
For the record, psychosis is delusions and halucinations, but phychopathy is feeling no remorse. They are similar words, and can manifest together, but actually mean very different things.
@geekjokes8458 8 жыл бұрын
in this case we'd have both
@monsieurbreakyourpc 8 жыл бұрын
I have schizophrenia. Psychosis is not the same as psychopathy. I feel sad that the creator of the video has used the terms interchangeably :(
@The-eo4lj 8 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who understands that Psychopathy is just lack of empathy.. THANK YOU
@nmonco 7 жыл бұрын
Actually nonstampcollector misreads the story and makes some crucial assumptions to change the appearance of Abraham's outlook. I made a short video response. Go to youtube and copy and paste the last half of the link below into your browser after the .com. /watch?v=NLjPSb3Okb8
@seroni17 5 жыл бұрын
Small problem with that is that it would still be murder which the same God that never changes later tells us is wrong... If God orders you to do something that directly contradicts what he told us in the Bible is he still the same God?
@NonStampCollector 10 жыл бұрын
You mention god asking Abraham to "give up" his son. Why do you not use the words "stab to death" and "burn"? Sounds kinda sick, doesn't it.
@brandenfarbanger3935 6 жыл бұрын
NonStampCollector I love you and your Non Stamp collection
@HiThere-zh6sf 3 жыл бұрын
Because that just sounds too unethical...
@HiThere-zh6sf 3 жыл бұрын
He did NOT "stab and burn" his kid! What kind if monster do you think Abraham is!??? 😉
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 жыл бұрын
The point is you shouldn't do that anymore. That was a common custom in the region before this story's reform.
@yoshisaidit7250 2 жыл бұрын
@@annaclarafenyo8185 smh
@dinohall2595 3 жыл бұрын
Currently in the middle of an epic NonStampCollector binge. Even sitting through the Bible study/religion ads between vids to make sure he gets paid handsomely for his work!
@tomsmithok 3 жыл бұрын
Getting a bible study ad before the video is the funniest stuff ever
@bekacynthia 5 жыл бұрын
“Why do people always want to bring facts into this?!” Lol, priceless! 🤣🤣👌👌
@llkoolbean4935 10 жыл бұрын
These videos are great! Thank you Nonstampcollector!
@keetherb 9 жыл бұрын
I realized; to share this on my Facebook page would help me to thin out my "Friends" list substantially. It will save me all that trouble.
@michaeldeth1485 5 жыл бұрын
Gabriel is my favorite character on this channel 😂😂😂 His respectful interactions with the Lord are hilarious 😂
@BenBen-bb7bb 8 ай бұрын
So we can’t test God (Matthew 4:7) but he can test us… sounds like a loving relationship
@Shad0wWarr10r 8 ай бұрын
An omniscient being who needs to test humans who cant test him back
@goodmaninthemoonyt4778 7 ай бұрын
Hello, my fellow non-believer, atheist, and agnostic. At this time, humanity has taken a step toward secularization. The increase of godless-minded people like us has had a significant impact on human civilization. We are now part of the major culture, beliefs, and traditions of every society in every nation. We carry the idealogy of the great mind that contributes to western and eastern philosophy, sharing a common belief and goal: ending lies upon lies of believers, the liberation of human belief and ethic, the desired of technological advancement, scientific discovery and renovation, and the improvement of human livelihood and prosperity. We want humanity to have a better future, to fix every problem, and to reunite the fractured world. We are the non-believers; people who act according to our developed beliefs, knowledge, and wisdom that we attain from our own lives; the selfless people we are willing to be compassionate without anything in return; and the great supporters of scientific practice and thinking, as well as economic development and implementation in our world.
@psiclops521 10 жыл бұрын
The Insane Psychopath Test! LMAO! Brilliant. I have always thought that passage in the OT was a bit of mental illness, but having it put like that is so perfect. It never comes up in conversation, but if that OT story about Abraham murdering his child ever does come up, I know how to describe it succinctly.
@Pyr0Ben 5 ай бұрын
As a Christian, the "Ages, couple days" was a remarkably subtle but funny line
@jasondean88888 Жыл бұрын
"Humanity is going to decend from a psychopath..." Maybe the bible is true. This would explain so much....
@sehr.geheim Жыл бұрын
not really, most humans are kind people, in fact, they are even kind to the worst of us, which thus rise into power and wealth because they don't care about the people
@jasondean88888 Жыл бұрын
@@sehr.geheim I sincerely disagree. At best, most of humanity gives lip service to empathy and wants to pretend they meet some high standard of morals, but their actions show a general apathy towards anyone they arent closely in contact with. Lack of action is as good as aiding the worst among us. Occasionally a leader rises that has inspired a positive move to offset the worst of our traits, and this leads to a huge outsized move of progress and good deeds, followed by generations of slowly back sliding and taking a good life for granted while ignoring the suffering of others because they are thousands of miles away. Suffering that could be ended with just a mild amount of sacrifice from the most secure portion of our species. Humanity is retched. The only saving grace is the occasional success of the very clever or the very ethical that occasionally rise to a leadership role. We currently have Putin bombing near a nuclear plant that would destroy the lives of millions of Russians as well as everyone else in the area. A "good" and reasonable response to this would be to see millioms of Russians literally march on the Kremlim and physicall remove Putin from office...but no..They cant even be bothered to safe gaurd their own lives. The risk to reward is within "acceptable" boundaries and laziness is the optimal choice. It's fucking disgusting.
@JM-mh1pp 4 жыл бұрын
Every person who ever worked in a big company knows exactly and I mean EXACTLY how Gabriel feels.
@zelotypia7874 3 жыл бұрын
i love these religious ads i keep getting on these videos
@denzilbelgium 7 ай бұрын
"no-one would believe this if they just stopped and thought about it" Great line! Wish I'd thought about this 40 years ago!
@alexistaylor8417 2 жыл бұрын
I once asked my dad (who is a baptist pastor) when I was 14ish if he would abraham and isaac me if he thought god told him to. He legit looked me in the eye and said god wouldn't do that but if for some reason he did I would obey god.
@nathanmckenzie904 2 жыл бұрын
It takes religion to make good people do horrible things
@fidelluz2942 2 жыл бұрын
therapy Alexis, therapy
@alexistaylor8417 2 жыл бұрын
@@fidelluz2942 lmao I have had lots of therapy my childhood was a dumpster fire
@umunhum4fun 12 жыл бұрын
What a lovely story... I remember first hearing it in Sunday school, where even with the spin they put on it I, prob about 7 at the time, found it quite disturbing. I was always a bit more weary of my pa and camping trips were never the same, for starters I refused to gather wood for the fire and stayed as far away from the pit as possible, hoping if pa got similar orders from above he'd select an easier target like one of my brothers.
@dillonberger4036 11 жыл бұрын
This, is so perfect. It does a good job at elucidating why Gabriel stopped Abraham. Moreover, when I saw Abraham's face, I died in laughter.
@rickwrites2612 7 ай бұрын
I love how Abraham is some mad eyed blithering psychotic who doesnt brush his hair
@GoblinXXX 11 жыл бұрын
That's always been my bone of contention with this whole story-- Why would an omniscient being ever "TEST" anyone?
@orchdork775 8 ай бұрын
Exactly
@丫o 7 ай бұрын
Because this omniscient being is behaving exactly as if it were thought up by the mind of men who didn’t have any wisdom, but just wanted power.
@MelodyStark 5 жыл бұрын
This... This is everything I ever opened for out of seeing the story told. I've talked to my friends about it before and we all had a real good laugh. Yep... God promised Abraham he'd give him a child. Then he told him to kill that child. That's insanity.
@workingproleinc.676 3 жыл бұрын
"Must Kill something" "Must Kill something" 🤣🤣🤣👌
@landondriskill 3 жыл бұрын
Its crazy how when you are told these stories as a child by people you thought you could trust you get it into your head that abraham about to murder his only son is somehow honorable
@丫o 7 ай бұрын
That’s precisely how the evil of the Christian faith works.
@DavidJasper 5 жыл бұрын
6:50 Isaac shat himself! the attention to details :D
@charlestownsend9280 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I watch the videos where the angels interact with god, I always picture them thinking or muttering under their breath that satan had a good point in trying to take over and get rid of this lunatic.
@AndroidFerret 8 ай бұрын
"Why do people always wanna bring FACTS in this ?"
@weonadomicilio398 6 ай бұрын
I was raised in a Christian family, and I always found this story and the one where God kills the wife and children of a guy to see if he still beliefs, to give him the double of both (as replacements) particularly unhinged and sick.
@jorgemtds 11 жыл бұрын
This Bible episode turned me into an atheist when I was 8 years old. I love this :) !
@丫o 7 ай бұрын
You were fortunate to have learned the truth so early in life, many aren’t.
@TridTV 7 ай бұрын
Why did I never stop to think about this story when I was a kid
@HazelOrbius 3 жыл бұрын
The fact I keep getting christian ads on these videos is so funny.
@NonStampCollector 11 жыл бұрын
I think it must have been a typo. I was probably intending to put verse 17; "The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works." Sounds like a bunch of spin to me - especially when one considers that he sends wild animals to maul people to death and orders that humans treat each other with appalling cruelty (stonings, burnings, etc). I'll put a note in the description box.
@mastermichaeldunchok 10 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you for making these videos. Helping point out these things does a great service to humanity.
@thamimehlo4214 9 жыл бұрын
This video is brilliant...
@tchakeemn 7 ай бұрын
This aged perfectly
@BullCricket75 6 жыл бұрын
Non Stamp Collector, I Love you! You manage to articulate my exact thoughts and feelings about the stamp collectors and their looney tune ideas. Keep up the great work!
@Wysiwyg43 6 жыл бұрын
This is in the future- 8/12/18~~~wooooo! Nah, just some chick that couldn't sleep and found this channel on a Sunday morn. Abraham about to kill Isaac was THE funniest thing I've ever seen. . . well, today. Tears were in my eyes. Gonna binge watch now until I get sleepy. Subbed like a mofo! PEACE
@RandallFlaggLives 12 жыл бұрын
Nonstampcollector, yours is my very favorite KZfaq channel. Nothing can ruin a day when I find you've posted a new video. Most of my friends are super religious, and I've reached a point where, unless they're actually trying to convert me again, I just don't say anything. Your videos, among other things celebrating sanity, are a breath of fresh air after hours of crazy.
@FeuerblutRM 4 жыл бұрын
I love your round, yellow bumblebee angels 😂💛
@lumeronswift Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that Christians defend this passage because God stepped in... but I'm so glad I saw your video on Jephthah, because I'd kind of forgotten that story... where the child WAS sacrificed.
@redchangoTRDD 11 жыл бұрын
Hallelujah, a new video! God has answered my prayers!
@davidpower7874 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine today if a father murdered his son and told the court that a voice in his head told him to do it, would he be let off because it may have been a god talking to him?, no, he'd probably be locked up for life as a psychopath.
@fearandloathing9976 3 жыл бұрын
Still happens an unsettling amount in the US.
@alanthompson8515 3 жыл бұрын
@@fearandloathing9976 Hi. Especially indirectly, when parents deny blood transfusions to their sick kids.
@fearandloathing9976 3 жыл бұрын
@@alanthompson8515 or even just teaching them this evil doctrine of being born in sin and doomed to eternal torment unless they live a life of apology to an invisible man
@alanthompson8515 3 жыл бұрын
@@fearandloathing9976 Mental AND physical abuse.
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr 7 ай бұрын
Yeah he'd be persecuted.
@christopherd4959 10 жыл бұрын
I enjoy these satires. I also enjoy debating Christians especially in a time that allows me the luxury not to get crucified on the very cross they seem to worship today (paradox). I sometimes imagine if Jesus looked down on them today whether he would even find it a symbol of faith to wear a cross which was a symbol of his death, and man's rejection of him.
@Jaggerbush 6 ай бұрын
I don't know how I missed this channel all these years. This is absolutely the best of it's kind and I'm thinking this channel is pretty much done 😢
@NonStampCollector 6 ай бұрын
Never say never. Don't hold your breath, though.
@Jaggerbush 6 ай бұрын
@@NonStampCollector I've been binging on these! I love these!!!!!
@alibarznji2000 2 жыл бұрын
As an ex-Muslim, I used to love the story of Joseph, it was the only story that showed compassion and love, even in the Quran. But the story of his great grandad (Abraham) was the most ridiculous to me.
@pablito4762 Жыл бұрын
As an Ex Christ i felt the same.
@amypieterse4127 2 жыл бұрын
That must have been some awkward walk back home. This story traumatised me as a kid.
@proud2bpagan 3 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that's a Muslim, and their Sodom and Gommrah story ends with Lut(Lot) and his family leaving the city. I told him the rest of the story as it's told in the Bible...he shook his head and said "Jesus Christ, you guys *really* abuse your prophets!"
@sundayoliver3147 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention the abuse Lot's family got...including from him.
@keithwhite2676 8 жыл бұрын
Nice detail how Isaac has shit his pants at 6:30.
@Felipe-zl1rj 2 жыл бұрын
I would sleep with one eye opened for the rest of my life after that if I was Isaac
@teehee4096 Жыл бұрын
Keep an eye out for Selener (read: Yahweh and Abraham)
@TheLegendOfRandy 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like there's not enough love for the Sodom and Gomorrah reference during the intro.
@drmantistoboggan2870 5 ай бұрын
I cant believe ive never seen this channel before. Its great
@tedgrant2 3 жыл бұрын
Before I watched this video, I was convinced that Abraham was one of the good guys. Now I realise that he was completely nuts and that his god is nuts too.
@mr16325 3 жыл бұрын
I stumbled across another one of your comments, what are the chances
@tedgrant2 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr16325 Very high !
@AttyMonroe 7 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. They should be shown in church.
@Katalyzt 4 жыл бұрын
That is the psychotic nature of the abrahamic religions(judaism, christian, and islam) . ;O) Katalyzt
@mohlomimoleleki9754 6 жыл бұрын
This is so well done!!! I haven't laughed this hard in a while!
@christinearmington 8 ай бұрын
The best yet! ✨😎
@Gioware 12 жыл бұрын
I love how in every episode angels are rationally thinking good guys
@HypercatZ 2 жыл бұрын
Just like Jeffery.
@p.bamygdala2139 5 жыл бұрын
Was the Abraham story a dry-run for the Jesus story? A loving father sacrifices his only begotten son to appease something and make possible a new covenant? Geez, the author of Mark was lazier than a modern day studio exec, recycling every old plot and story thread!
@capitalb5889 3 жыл бұрын
There is clearly a strong and deliberate link between the two stories.
@eightclouds1465 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best reality tv shows I've seen. It really helps me get to sleep at night, after a few chuckles.
@JMUDoc 6 жыл бұрын
Both Abraham and Yahweh are praised by Christians in this. Incredible. Just... incredible.
@johnduffy3878 5 жыл бұрын
I love these videos! Keep up the good work!
@ElectroMagneticJosh 11 жыл бұрын
The develepment of Satan from a concept into a full blown adversary of God has always fascinated me; especially as it parrelled the development of yahweh from a single deity in a panteon into the "supreme, one and only" God. Obviously, as you said, making their god become the all-powerful creator of everything started to cause theological issues because he suddenly was also responsible for evil; hence the need for Satan.
@brianevans3699 8 ай бұрын
I can't believe I'm so late to discovering this channel, but bravo. Awesome content!
@pedroheilel130 6 жыл бұрын
I Just Found your channel and loved It to death. Great work, congrats.