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Long ago Raid

Hahahahahaha ohh oh really ?

Nice video. The Teleka Patrick story is really sad. Mental health is real.

Wild cats. Bobcats, and mountain lions especially, sound EXACTLY like a woman screaming for her life.

Fisher cats I'm pretty sure.

On the flip side, there's humans that sound VERY similar to an animal screaming, my wife being on of those.

S K I N W A L K E R S

@@mookinbabysealfurmittens SKINWALKERS

thats actually a good point!

I have been to the M cave, it has low oxygen and carbon monoxide gasses, it made me feel super dizzy but yet good at the same time, oxygen hypoxia can make you feel "high" or feel like you are "vibrating"

People have speculated this but there’s multiple people who have actually found the M cave and corroborated his experiences so it seems like a coincidence

@@IceBlueLugiayep. And the reason they felt similarly to him was that they all probably experienced hypoxia from lack of oxygen and whatnot, it can make you “vibrate” and feel very anxious and exactly how he felt.

*M for MURDER ?* For me, it looks NOTHING like the letter M ! It must be some metaphor !

Never even knew this about the story until now. Watbewebsurf truly is our Indiana Imternet Jones

I remember hearing about that on The Why Files…. Such a punch to the gut. I really wish he could’ve gotten help, he seemed like a really cool dude who didn’t deserve to suffer the way he did.

Kenny and his dad is defintely a New discovery to story along with the depresión as it seems no one who has covered his story has never mentioned these facts before

@@UgiBaka I've heard about Kenny Veach but didn't hear anything else until today

Oh my god They killed Kenny!

@Heartland Railfanner™ Kenny’s father committed suicide. Kenny’s still missing

OMG KENNY KILLED.... KENNY? DAYMN IT

100%%, i was going to comment this, It sounds like a mountain lion/ Cougar. his sheath to his knife being found sounds like he probably tried to protect himself but you cant protect yourself from a big cat at night, I'd imagine he will never be identified in anyway.

But then his clothes would've been shredded and found. I don't know, something is definitely fishy here.

@@timmytacoburrito no they wouldn't, those cats eat everything, if there is any leftovers after a week they'll be miles apart and in recognizable due to other animal, cultures alone would clean it all up in 12 hours

Vultures**

Just posted that idea myself

Damn bro, sorry for your loss 😔

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I’m so sorry for your loss 💔 may you find peace and I’m sorry you had to go through the grief 🥺

I always though he took a tumble down a mineshaft. Lots of vertical ones hiding in the shadows

Rest in peace, bro. I’m really sorry about your friend.

That’s probably the most logical conclusion. At some point Kenny did say that if he wanted to make sure he was never found he could.

I can totally see that... But also as much as I hate to put any blame on anybody who is grieving, I can't help but wonder if she had anything to do with it whether it was suicide or not. She refers to him in the past tense and like you said her story doesn't make sense at all really. Idk just a thought that crossed my mind

@@slimyturtle4665 if she was fake, it means he was suicided. Police cover those up. There is an earth bound reptilian humanoids that live underground. He was in a dangerous environment.

least obvious fed

⁠@@slimyturtle4665yeah, I thought that was strange too. Why would she talk about Kenny in the past tense when he hasn’t even been found yet?? Does she know something about what happened to him?

Can a healthy adult just go from Normal to having a total psychiatric meltdown in a matter of days and become a danger to themselves?

@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24​​⁠Taleka’s problems began in her late-20s. Typically, schizophrenia manifests itself by age 25, but many illnesses have early-onset & late-onset variations. It’s also possible that her problems began earlier and were more subtle/she was able to hide them from the people in her life, such as her parents. The fact that she compared her life to that of the person in A Beautiful Mind, and that in one of her tweets, she mentioned a drug for schizophrenia not being strong enough, I think Taleka did suffer from schizophrenia and knew this. It’s a sad statement about our society that a doctor felt she couldn’t seek the full psychiatric help she needed for fear of jeopardizing her career. I’d bet she prescribed that medication herself, but psychiatry wasn’t her specialty, so she wasn’t prescribing the med she needed or wasn’t administering the proper dosage to herself. Taleka was also exhibiting symptoms common to Bipolar Disorder, which can result is full psychotic breaks. this happened to Carrie Fisher after she had to be taken off all her meds because she had an allergic reaction to one and stopped breathing. They took her off all meds, and before they solved the mystery of which med had triggered the reaction, she’d had a prolonged manic episode that prevented her from sleeping for six days, and the sleep deprivation triggered a psychotic break; the doctors feared they might not get her back. (I’ve never seen an interview where Carrie fully explained this, because I have a few medical conditions myself including depression, anxiety, and migraines, and I educated myself on my issues. I am assuming Carrie wasn’t on any new meds, that’s why the docs were unsure what triggered that reaction. But what I don’t get is why they did nothing to help her during those six sleepless days. The plan was to reintroduce one med at a time, to figure out what she could continue to take and which med had to be removed from her medicine regimen. So she had to be in the hospital being observed that entire time. They wouldn’t send her home, since the reaction resulted in her being unable to breathe. If no one else had been at her home, she’d have died.) I don’t know if you can have Bipolar and Schizophrenia or if schizophrenia has some of the same symptoms, but yes, a mental health crisis can happen very quickly, especially if you aren’t getting help for an illness or are getting improper/inadequate treatment. There was a tragic case in Canada where a young man went from fine to getting a schizophrenia diagnosis to becoming very sick very quickly. The doctor was surprised at how rapidly his mental state deteriorated, but the doc worked hard to treat him; it was difficult. I don’t think the doc grasped just how bad it really was, despite realizing how insidious this case of schizophrenia was. Eventually, the treatments seemed to be helping and the guy was starting to build a productive life. He got on a bus one afternoon to attend either college or a trade school. Unfortunately, he ended up chatting with another passenger who was a conspiracy theorist. He got off the bus before his destination and got on another to immediately return home. By the time he got there, it was the middle of the night. He was clearly in bad shape, his parents called his doctor, who said he could get him hospitalized that night. But things seemed to calm down, so the dad said he thought it could wait until the next day His siblings were visiting home as was at least one of his sisters-in-law. She (or maybe it was his sister) was pregnant. That night, he shot everyone in the house. Some survived but it was just horrific. So yep, a person can go down hill very quickly. I also wonder if she didn’t predict going missing but instead was planning to end her life, hoping or expecting not to be found. Walking into a lake isn’t typical for su!c!d@, but it’s not an impossibility. The reference to that medication not being strong enough could be interpreted as she was giving up on treatment provided the help she needed to end her suffering. Or maybe she was planning on deliberately disappearing, walking away from her life, for some reason and she did just accidentally drown in that lake.

@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 many if not most cluster B disorders do not show themselves until mid-twenties to thirties. For men can be even later. Some need a trigger event some do not. Point is, there is nothing set in stone when it comes to mental health. It is what it is and happens when it happens. And you have to do the best you can for your loved ones that may be experiencing it because they tend to think nothing is wrong. Pay attention to everything they do. Be present. I have a family member that has NPD but I also used to work with schizophrenics.

Because is can happen to anybody is the reason that, from my perspective, it is the last great taboo with many societies and cultures not wanting to discuss it and stigmatising and even shunning sufferers.

Don't hate me but I don't know of anyone in my Indian village very small btw with any mental disorders , but my wife (American ) says it's maybe bcuz they manifestations are maybe possibly bcuz of the massive amounts of social structures , family and such the mental disorders have different umm different outcomes /signs.

Keemstar is just.. I have many unkind words for him

Yeah the video should call Keemstar’s interactions what they were: Antagonistic.

💯💯

Ugh....can't stand his voice. So annoying

why would you even consider bringing it up if you don't want people to ask about it? The only reasons you would have to mention these experiences would be either to explain them to people or to farm pity.

Yep

Perhaps the m cave was a symbol. Perhaps in the past he was too scared to kill himself. But he worked up the courage finally. The m cave symbolizes his death

@@coocoo3336 My god reading that gave me chills.

Maybe, but it’s always a good idea to bring a gun when exploring unknown caves. Never know what sort of critter or crazy person might be in there.

its not uncommon for people to bring guns with them when they're exploring places where wild animals live.

My mother had schizophrenia when I got to the age I could understand things he told me my mother tried to kill both him and myself. I feel for anyone that suffers from schizophrenia. Not a pretty thing to ensure

yeah.... I watched her when I was a little emo kid in 2014 before the situation happened (she was much more lucid back then, just a normal teenage girl doing normal teenage girl things) and I thought it was absolutely insane how people piled on her when I assumed she was having a mental health crisis. she never once seemed like the type of person to do crazy shit for "clout" but people just ran with it. I specifically remember a leafy video with millions of views where he said something along the lines of "so yeah. In my opinion shes on drugs or doing this for attention". Just wild and totally invasive stuff

Very sad. I'm surprised that she was able to maintain a job until the end of her life...that "My awesome day" KZfaq video was so darn disturbing. Poor lady.

@@tj-8422 she was a kind and caring person and was very intelligent

@@CJ-ht4rf she appeared to be, indeed. So sad.

@@tj-8422 I was also surprised that she could hold down a job, not to mention as a pediatric resident, with how bad her delusions seemed to be. It’s so tragic that she was so bright and driven but afflicted with such severe mental illness. 😢

Its kinda wild that she could handle such a hard job with her mental health. If she had gotten treatment in time she would've probably excelled in her field.

When they were abruptly missing as such, I am certain they were either eaten by animals or murdered :(

Well. As an adult, one has a right, if they so choose, to disappear. And it's legal. Hurtful to others? Sure. But within their right as free people? You bet.

You can go missing anytime you want. Nobody can force you home or stop you if you dont want to be found.

I agree. As others stated it's fine to go missing. It's another thing to have safe and or zero infrastructure in place for those lost on known trails, forests etc. At least in Kenny's case

@Maps rights are valid most minors are still under the care of their parents or someone older than them. Once they are older & out on their own, yes, their life path is their choice and theirs alone. Irresponsible? Maybe. Hurtful? More than likely. But ultimately, their life and what they do with it is their choice. If that means disappearing & taking on a new face, in a new place or simply exiting the world, it's their right to choose for themselves. Also, given your username? I can ascertain you don't actually care about the safety of minors 💀

Heard a similar story but the couple in that case weren’t married and they had both taken a lot of drugs at the party, causing the to get lost in the snow and be unable to adequately explain to 911 where they were or what was happening.

Kind reminds me of the Yuba County 5, Not that similar to it but the fact that a snowstorm effected the search is similar.

I'm sorry. I hope you have a good day/night.

Walk around with a card, simple fix. Like a business card, a conversation starter and a get out of jail free card

Older guy living near me has pretty severe ataxia, he cant buy a beer to save his life, if theres a new cashier. Ive bought him beer many times, one time it ended in heated exchange because me vouching for him wasnt enough, so I ended up buying them myself with some carefully curated zings and dagger eyes. Decent dude, who just loves to watch sports and have couple cool ones. Also, sometimes starting a new medicine can definitely make you loopy. I remember having so much trouble after being prescribed cough syrup; I had hard time standing for longer periods, I had the energy of a dried slug and even indoors had this annoying “mist” everywhere, I couldnt see right. I foolishly went bowling with my friend, couldnt really see the pins, just the lane :)

It's just disgusting, I never heard of Marina Joyce before but I was facepalmimg while listening to her case and just how stupid some people can be and how they treated her and her boyfriend. I'm pretty sure they don't care about her and are just intrigued by creating conspiracy theories and can't mind their own business. I genuinely feel sorry for her, she has every right to keep her business to herself and have privacy for her private life. And of course Keenstar would be involved, the biggest bully of all. That guy just can't stop harassing people and try to screw their with life. From Etika to the old guy he falsely accused of pedophilia, to Maria Joyce and many more.

gotta love 'invisible' disabilities /s

My aunt had it and I can absolutely understand why she wouldn't want to talk about it, especially as a very young woman. It's a lot to deal with

Another KZfaqr I watch, was diagnosed with MS in February of 22 & he has had to completely change the way he makes videos. He had to stop streaming all together with the exception of one every couple of months. So I absolutely believe her.

I was diagnosed with MS. Everyday in which there are minimal existential crises, or "lost in the backrooms" type of despair, is a win.

Yeah, I heard MS is very painful after the main actress of Dead To Me got diagnosed with MS before season 3 and during production she was held up a lot of times by crew members or having dialogues in doorways or chairs so she can hold onto something. She said she really wanted to finish the show for the fans. I can’t believe someone with so much pain can push through it! You can really see the difference in her face, too from previous 2 seasons to the last one… Makes me really respect people with MS who just want to live normal lives.

Shit I just have chronic pain and when it flares up I don't talk to anyone and can't do anything. I can't imagine dealing with a fan base while struggling with something like MS.

He is a garden gnome.

He has the right to be you npc

​@@simonforfan What is this wording???

@@mikeyaftony2464 It’s poorly programmed npc talk. “all ur base are belong to us” type…

​@@tonycrabtree3416lol "i know you are but what am i" ass reply. "he has a right to be, you npc" is what he meant. forgot 1 comma. not a huge grammar mistake

If Joyce indeed has multiple sclerosis, her life is going to take a very bleak turn eventually. She needs the loving support from her entourage more than ever to arm herself against the fear of death, instead of tittle-tattle, drama stirring and reddit tier conspiracy theories.

It appears that she has mental health issues

yup and when they dont get answers they like its time for wild conspiracies

@@TheUndeadMew exactly. Everything has to be a conspiracy. The internet has no sense of privacy.

What do you expect when you publicize your life and then act completely out of character for 2 years? I’m not saying people are entitled to knowing about her private life however if you don’t want attention then you shouldn’t seek it out because the internet will run wild with it as we’ve seen.

@@IIconikkExactly. Not excusing the internets behavior, but there were obviously people concerned about her and her response about it was terrible. If you want privacy maybe don’t become a public figure??

@@gabrielarivera4864bro is blaming people for wanting privacy

Plus she had recently gone off her meds. Other people with the condition seemed to understand her actions immediately.

​@@onionbubs386 i have that disorder and a single episode can resllt upend your life

“Kenny” - found alive “his body” - found dead

I dunno man, she really did act weird. Disappears for years then comes out with the whole MS story. It seemed like a load of bs and made up on the spot to no doubt gain sympathy etc.

I agree. To me, if I tried to tell others the truth and it kept getting twisted by others, I'm sure my mental health would probably be a disaster. The fact that Keemstar and others kept speculating vocally to the point of harassment was kinda disgusting.

Or cartel cave...

​@@williebeamish5879 ngl i thought that was what happened beforebi heard the girlfriend's statement

​@@williebeamish5879 a cougar would be more likely. Where there are no humans, there will be wild animals.

Agreed. Given its dark and tragic nature, I don't want to call the case a "classic", but its definitely a piece of YT history I think any vet of this site has heard of.

Kennys story about the M cave gave me very strong “Ted the caver” vibes. Just sounds like he stumbled upon the same typa shit.

+1. She said "MS is like cancer, but isn't as bad", but I'd disagree on the 2nd part - it's absolutely as bad as cancer. Apples & oranges, but it's horrifying to watch your body destroy itself with nothing you can do to cure it, and very little to ease symptoms. I wish people would ever learn when to drop it, like the conspiracy theorists who needle people endlessly.

On top of that, her channel is basically dead.

@@mookinbabysealfurmittens my fiancé was diagnosed with MS 1 month before she died 2 years ago. I couldnt fully understand the pain she was going thur but i feel the pain afterwards. Really miss her fr

Why didn’t she just say so then way back when instead she rides the wave of clicks and views…

@@judgeprime3730 Because she shouldn't need to share stuff like that publicly before she is ready to. I imagine she was still trying to grasp it herself, it would have been a very difficult time for her overall.

Indeed. Pray for her & her family. 🙏

kzoo pride

Have you heard of Derek Jeter from Kalamazoo?

I'm from Hyattsville (The place where she spent the first two years of her life).

It’s so incredibly sad, and scary to think that it’s possible to be very intelligent *and* also have delusions. I have OCD which doesn’t generally cause outright delusions, but for me it’s like- logically I know nothing bad will happen to me if I touch something that’s red (or at least if something bad does happen it’s a coincidence). I *know* my obsessions aren’t logical, but my brain and body engage with them anyway as if I’m in real danger. It’s wild how much your brain can go haywire.

​@@hannahb2306 Yeah. I have psychotic depression and delusions, and the worst part is knowing that what you're thinking is illogical but being unable to snap yourself out of it. No one would know that I suffer from delusions if I didn't tell them, since I mask almost perfectly. I used to want myself to be "worse" so I would be taken seriously. I hope you're well.

@@rowancook4369 thanks, you too 💗

People like her often become homicidal

@@rowancook4369 @Hannah B I get that from an anxiety disorder standpoint. The spiraling thoughts don't stop because someone tells you it's not going to end up this way or that way. I've been called delusional and overreactive when I get anxious, which just gets me more anxious now about something else entirely (!!), but nowadays I'm better at stopping and asking myself if I'm just having spiraling thoughts. Plus, I switched from Prozac to Zoloft, and the spiraling thoughts have lessened and I'm generally more calm about things...it's a little weird when the irrational thoughts halt, but also so relieving. My anxiety got so bad in my senior year of college that I suffered my first episode of derealization while driving to Target. Things felt really numb and dream-like, and I genuinely didn't know whether or not I was awake when I merged lanes to exit onto a parkway. All I knew "for sure" is that my 2000s playlist was on. When I finally parked and got inside, I roamed without much recognition of what I was there for until I sat down on a shelf and pulled my phone out. I messaged my friends on Discord and they talked me through what I needed to do, which was name every thing I could see in front of me. I typed it out to them and said it out loud, and it helped ground me a bit. I'm just so thankful that I reach out for help whenever I feel these things happen, and I'm in therapy now. Sorry I just had an edible and wanted to write a novel apparently, lol!

I'm sorry for your loss

well you wont...you cant heal from something like that. YOu never will you can just adapt and change to the new self that has been formed. Imagine it like a third of your body being taken...(only its not like that would cause the same biological damage)

So sorry…illnesses that change personalities as they progress are just heartbreaking. And just from my own losses (not quite the same), it doesn’t exactly heal, but the pain decreases with time and even though didn’t think it would happen, find that one day you can talk about without huge emotion and find plenty of joy in current life.

It's not that we don't want help, it's that we don't see that anything is wrong. We don't see the changes you see.

The Sheep Range is on the border between Clark and and Lincoln counties. What do you think about the cave making his body vibrate?

Finding a cave like that again is like remembering the shape of a sand dune hahaha like you said, these environments change shape over time, often quickly.

@joel I do think he found a strange unexplained cave with some sort of odd properties.

The vibrating part got me. Thats a deep cave if its casting the Schumann resonances.

he does handle all of these stories with grace. love ur videos so much eckharts

Yeah truly disheartening

So true. We need more empathetic and thoughtful coverage like this.

…?? What KZfaqr makes fun of suicide?

​@@J_M3444 a certain Paul brother springs to mind

Some people simply shouldn't be online.

@@mjanny6330 absolutely! I think her loved ones should have stepped in to take her out of that space and just put out a statement that she was safe and with her loved ones

no u didnt

Eye, eye captain

​@@aWomanFreed HEY .... how did you get out of your cage? Lol

Yup, exactly what I was thinking.

well that’s super unnerving

Yup, 100% IIRC pumas are noteworthy for being willing to eat humans too, so that probably explains the lack of a body

Then wouldn't there have been evidence of that? Like blood and mountain lion tracks?

@@UsrNmTkn You'd be surprised, man eating big cats can pull some insane stuff, the infamous leopard of rudraprayag was known to be able to kill a person and drag their body out of a room undetected even if somebody else was in the room with them, man eating big cats are scary af

Sadly, mental illness in the black community is brushed off and even mocked by other black folks. A person can show signs of mental illness, threaten to take their life, or take their own life right in front of them and it would be blamed on everything but mental illness. 🤦🏽‍♀️ Look at the state of Chicago, NY and California. That behavior is not of sane people. *Please respond back respectfully

Except he didn’t, the cave is real

@@callmezeldaonemoartime I'm keen to believe that it was real tbh

​​@@reversed9757 I know its real because he said it had a vibration. That means the cave went deep ibto the earth because the Schumann resonances was vibrating though it. Thats the key detail that sells it for me.

When he did go there to do suicide why would he document all that on video instead doing it in private silently? :/ whatever happened to him i hope he is at peace, dead or alive

@@user-ux3qu7mr2m For God's sakes, that's an electromagnetic wave. It does not cause vibrations, especially not in a cave.

Can you give some examples of which 411 cases you’re talking about?

​@@TheFapFactory Maybe Scare Theater? Idk just a hunch. When he covered the M cave.

@@TheFapFactory The most recent one I looked into was the Aaron Hedges case. Aaron had a history of substance abuse and was almost certainly in withdrawals while they were hunting. The missing 411 movie barely makes note of this and they never interview the two hunters that were actually with Aaron right before he went missing. There was an entire police investigation into the disappearance and the MAIN SOURCE OF INFORMATION about the events that took place, and what happened to him, came from the testimony of those two guys. Not only are they not interviewed in the movie, their testimony is almost completely ignored. This testimony mentions that Aaron was sickly, not in a very friendly mood, could barely shoot his bow, obviously struggling with withdrawals, and probably should not have been out there in his condition. He got in an argument with his two hunting partners and then wandered out of camp and disappeared. Not to mention that his body was actually found in a "bear stash". He was in poor physical and mental condition, wandered away from camp, and either got killed by a bear, or died of exposure and was scavenged by a bear. Really no big mystery at all. I would hardly consider the case, "without any reasonable explanation". I highly recommend the channel, "The Missing Enigma". He covers many disappearances including "411" cases and does a much better job presenting all the available info than pretty much every other KZfaqr. Once you get all the info on many of these cases you begin to realize how poor most of David Paulides "research" actually is.

i honestly believe so. first time i ever heard a mountain lion scream scared the ever living shit out of me, it really does sound like a woman

His belongings left behind would most likely be torn up or scratched up..?right?

​@@OGBarry1it's possible. I don't think the condition of his belongings was specified. I could see his boot coming off if he was dragged by an animal, not sure about the other items though.

@@michaylavr8241 sheath coulda came off or he took it off tryna fight back, still wondering abt the pants tho

​@@toast3591 Not if it caught him off guard. Also half the reason they target the neck is to break it and paralyze their prey.

I think you just described my stalker. She has been at it for years.

My Aunt has MS, it makes you say and do stuff ... man i loved my aunt but even knowing full well that she has MS the stuff she said and did hurt so extremly that basicly everyone stopped contact with her, wich is also somewhat her husbands fault, everybody says hes just there for her money and lies about pretty much everything and wont stop harrasing my mothers parents and my mother. I could tell from just looking at the footage that something was wrong with her and somehow it seemed eerie similiar - but could not quite figure out why untill the bit where she said she has MS, the movement of hers, the speak patern ... almost the same like my Aunt .... fucking scary, and it only will get worse ... i hate MS.

Doesn’t help that her and her bf are clearly unintelligent and made the situation much worse

What about one of her videos having the "help me" whisper around that time?

@@meltingpoint97Oh shut up lol. Keem needs to stop sticking his neck into shit he’s not involved in, it has nothing to do with her “intelligence” that you think you can discern from whatever she decides to make public of herself.

"she just needed time and privacy to work through it. " -------------------------------- Nothing like posting endless videos on YT to induce privacy. 😂😂😂 And no one was twisting her arm to do social media. I think what she really needed was two parents who cared more for her.

It's not mentioned in the video, but the mineshaft was already checkes back when his phone was found. He wasn't in it.

@@TheMisanthropist69 that's fair enough. I'd be interested to see if there are more shafts in the area and if they've been checked too.

I'm going to say this right now. I think Kenny was murdered and the suicide part was to cover it up. If he really was suicidal he wouldn't take his phone with him to dump. He has no point of return. The girlfriend seems suspicious to me and I think it's possible his body isn't even there but was made to look like he went there. I am a junior detective and some of the things are NOT adding up at all.

@@TheMisanthropist69 didn't they say that the mineshaft went deeper but they couldn't reach it all the way?

@@AngelDelight69 was the "girlfriend" even verified? I mean it could easily just be some random claiming to be her and saying those things. Such is the way if the internet

The whole story perfectly sums up what 2016 was like on the internet. People verbally abusing what looks to be unusual and mentally unstable individuals to evoke drama for easy content

She puts her entire life on a constant live stream and people deserve bad karma because she decides to dissappear suddenly?.. you're a strange cookie 🤣

wtf is wrong with you? The vast majority of the people concerned about her were worried for her wellbeing and you take that to mean they're arrogant harassers? If she didn't want people worrying about her, she should've either made it clear what her condition was or stopped doing youtube entirely. If you choose to be an influencer, you don't get to complain about people caring about your wellbeing.

@@FluffyFerretFarm No she didn't, you clearly weren't paying attention to the video. She was a KZfaqr and this whole thing started long before her brief, 10 day absence. KZfaqrs are people too, they aren't caged animals in a zoo. They're entitled to their privacy, just like everyone else. If saying that makes me strange then that's fine with me.

Keemstar being an irredeemable POS? imagine my shock

He's still on Earth bruh.

@@TheRealCatof We still don't know

​@@AntiHeroLBC I mean they didnt shoot his corpse off into space, so hes absolutely still on on earth. Ya silly af

@@cdogthehedgehog6923 ya sure bout that tho? 🤣

@@HiNRGboy True. He hasn't been found, so that m cave could have been a forgotten clown cannon TO THE MOON.

M for mental?

​@@Daansstuff-altdamn never thought of that

Or maybe M for massacre or murder since his father killed himself

​@@Daansstuff-alt M for EM EM is ME backward. Me is Men without its N. The men cave hahaha

Misery

Same. It sounds like she may have been schizophrenic. I had a neighbor who was schizophrenic and off her meds. It's wild what that disorder does to people. I feel for anyone who has to live with it.

It makes me so sad that her family tried to help her. That’s usually not a step you hear people take in these types of stories, which always makes it more heartbreaking.

@@theclownsystem9429 tbh I feel bad for you guys a neighbors. What on earth did ur schizophrenic neighbor do!?

I don’t understand how she could be that bad online and stalking a major gospel singer, yet none of her coworkers could see she was delusional and psychotic?

@@theclownsystem9429 yeah does sound like schizophrenia :( my great aunts husband had it, after she died in their apartment he believed she was still alive and just resting, not letting anyone in bc it would disturb her sleep, and tried to feed and bathe her despite being dead, and thought she was speaking to him sometimes. Eventually authorities came to Intervene and he was sent to a mental hospital. It’s horrible what the mental disorder does to people

My sister has schizophrenia and I have her kids. Seem to come out of nowhere. She’s homeless in Florida. She won’t take her meds

@@jcritter9295 my dog has arthritis

@@seducedbysasquatch hilarious

@@origamitraveler7425 her pain is far from hilarious

Yeah i believe the medicine caused her to have an episode as well. Now whether its exactly as you said idk, but i know that when you take heavy medication you havent gotten before for the first time, you have to start by very small doses at first and slowly reach the recommended dose, and also dont interupt it.

Yeah.. I missed the whole "rebranding" of the channel to what it is now. 😂 Are Bob and Emma involved with it anymore?

​​​@@damotheman4196 I don't think so... they started to get very rude with people actually worried about the weird changes (people get attached with a father/daughter relationship like that, it was their brand) until some months later they "set the record straight" and said they were "trying to get rid of stalkers" (edit: if I remember correctly, they said this on their official forum outside YT). They started a new channel talking about cars or something and then I stopped following them... They just sold the channel and needed a time off but their behavior after selling the channel was off-putting... the majority of people were legitimately worried because they were, at the time, messing with Area 51 stuff, it wasn't a parasocial thing.

@@redacted2275 Man, now i remember the dad talking about stalkers ... Plus the guy who died. All the comments about Emms werre horrid..thanks for the reply.. They thought they might find the killer and the police had spoken to them... Can't believe i forgot! Cheers mate... Quite a story.

Unfortunately the date of disappearance and the update, its lost hope now

​@@GrindyVine yep

Seems to be fairly in line with the rate in which people disappear in general

Back the early 2010's I was really into old videogames (NES and Snes) and I used to watch a lot of music covers of the soundtracks of those games. There was a youtuber that played really awesome improvised jazz versions from those old games on a piano, he had thousands of views per video (not viral numbers by any means, but quite decent for the time) one day, his channel disappeared completely. To this day, some of the other youtubers that used to upload the same type of music at that time are still there (basically dead channels at this point, but with some activity from time to time), but his channel is completely gone. Unfortunately my health has been declining rapidly with the years, especially my memory, I don't remember the channel's name and how his music sounded, I really regret not having saved some of his videos.

Hard for me to feel bad for people like that

@@disciple2742 I’m sorry that you lack empathy

@@disciple2742 you do realize lacking empathy means you’re also “like that” right?

You know what happend? Enlighten us.

I can imagine bro.. Have you bought them because youtube sponsors or how/why did you decide to get them?

It's pretty obvious that she was succumbing to schizophrenia, which usually doesn't manifest until the afflicted is in their 20s. It's so tragic; I can't imagine how scary it must be to live with untreated schizophrenia.

Ive seen well known KZfaqrs... Well do the job themselves... And nobody was able to help them

eh

Eh

No, I've seen cases of well-known channels where the KZfaqr is schizophrenic. It still doesn't go well. Look at Etika's situation, he committed suicide because of it.

he might've been googling, "help meme" for a chuckle but hit enter too fast. we don't know!

@@roseoverdose6451just not funny.

@@roseoverdose6451 you're sick

​@Maps rights are valid and clearly he couldn't

Googling help me is such a common thing for me ngl 😂

I think that's justified though, if you have severe mental health issues you should not be in the medical industry where patients are in your care

@@masrr3678 it's not, it leads to mentally ill doctors. Getting help for it should be seen as a good thing, instead of the system we have now were mentally ill doctors hide it and still treat patients. That's the way the real world works, especially in countries with bad unemployment support.

@@coloradohikertrash9958 maybe it shouldn’t be an all or nothing thing. Depends on how well they’re responding to treatment. I don’t see the harm if they have a good track record of successful care. Any doctor, mentally ill or not, is prone to human error and lapses in judgment.

​@@shortking-vp9vv Yes but doctors with extreme mental health issues, such as schizophrenia, could be prone to more errors and lapses in judgement.

Nah she was just crazy.

Kenny's case is so suspicious. All these posts about so-called M cave which is somehow the only one he fears, i thought it could end as some hoax. But the man is gone now, so his "vibrations" and fear in that cave were real? Why did he take his life before finding this cave again if he was so obsessed with it? Because of it i am not so sure about this version. As for the second guy, there are a lot of comments stating he was killed by a cougar. Probably, but since there were no blood, no traces, only pants without wallet, this version might not be 100% true. If it is so obvious to some armchair detectives, why do officials not state this as the main probability?

@DL-pk1fwhe doesn’t

bro not the time

I got so excited when i got a notification from his channel 🎉

@@GabbyLiriano Totally. Me, too. Now he's gone again, but at least we know he's not dead.

bro he literally said he’d be back in 2025

Notice how none of his friends or family are worried about him?

I heard he is just studying really important stuff in college or something.

Doubt it. He probably really found a weird cave and disappeared. There are so many unexplained things on this earth. Most become military bases (gee, wonder why) so I could see there being a weird energetic field in some cave. It probably drove him mad obsessing over it.

By jove, you might be right! This is the most plausible theory yet. It ties up many loose ends and answers many of the mysterious questions. Damn it, maybe I've been reading too much Agatha Christie but to explain myself as to why I like this answer so much I need the order and the method of Poirot. Here we go! Firstly: by the theory that the 'M' cave was totally fabricated, we cleanly answer all these questions in one fell swoop: •Why has a cave matching his specs not been found? •How could such a unscientific "vibrational" cave exist? •If such a fantastical cave did exist on the outskirts of a top secret military base, why doesn't the US just extend their acreage a little bit? Then we come to the question of why fabricate it? I personally find your answer a tad bit too dramatic. But I'll get back to that. Now why would he kill himself? That's been answered satisfactorily. As it runs in my family on both sides, I'm well aware of how damn genetic depression is. If his father had it to the severity of suicide, there's a good chance he had it. And discovering his fathers corpse is not something I imagine he could ever mentally escape from. So in the end, his poor soul has been tormented to the point where his only joys no longer can bear the weight of his cross. Here's where I was stuck: why make your loved one's worry so much about your disappearance? Even if you decided to leave this place in the place you loved most, surely you would let the one who you loved so much know? But I was thinking like myself! For the few months I was in college, it became too much and I started to feel like a total failure and for the first time in my life seriously contemplate suicide before dropping out. I won't go into details, but suffice to say on the highly unlikely chance I did go through, everyone would have been notified. So that's where I was stuck. Then I realized the obvious! If part of the reason you did it was because you found your father's corpse, you would do everything in your power to make sure no one you loved found yours. And where is better than a place you've scouted out extensively? A cave in the middle of nowhere? But people might look for him, and he doesn't want to be found. So we come back to our 'M' cave. I think he found his spot, created the story of the 'M' cave, shot some unassuming fruitless footage searching for this cave on the opposite side of the range from his chosen location. Not as a legacy, as a red herring. This solution answers why on earth a man who doesn't want to be ever found would desire such an enduring search in the area of his death, or why a man who was tormented by his father's legacy would want a legacy of his own. Everything adds up. You sir are a genius and I've wasted far too much time explaining myself. I've got to go, now. Good day, sir!

​why did he google sad stuff and leave his stuff and home then if it really was just exploring

M for mystery

I recommend missing 411 to hear about a lot of missing people that disappeared in national parks

Exactly

I also thought of this.

That was a great shot. It could be made into a flag.

I liked that goat

@@sakiamira not goat it's a sheep

i respect the fact that you said that your thoughts go out to those people, and that you didn't make the claim that you pray for them which does absolutely nothing

@@o0o-jd-o0o95 I have no respect for you. Your respect for others does and means absolutely nothing.

I'm coming for you in three nights. We're going underground. Splish splash. -Taleka

I do somewhat disagree though respect this theory. For starters, she was very symptomatic, I wouldn't be surprised if she was experiencing heavy delusions and hallucinations. Perhaps she was trying to escape through the dark winter night, and ended up in the lake. Not being able to see and having a spontaneous tactile sensory of being in cold water, mixed with the emotional distress from her mental state, might've caused a shock to her system and caused her to go into cardiac arrest. That said, I somewhat wish your theory to be true since it's less traumatic.

The ability to swim has nothing to do with intelligence.

I think a lot of people are missing the part where it was the middle of winter in Michigan. The likeliest explanation for how she wound up in the lake is that she walked across it, because it was iced over and so she didn't know there was even a lake there, and fell through the ice. When you fall suddenly into freezing water your whole body goes into hypothermic shock, your limbs become paralyzed, you automatically gasp, and you drown within seconds - whether or not you know how to swim. Was she wandering around in the woods in the middle of winter due to a psychotic episode? Yeah, probably. But "fell through the ice" still makes more sense than "trying to swim to the underground". If she wanted to get underground, she would have been digging.

​@@titaniumvulpes Agreed. But she wasn't thinking "right" in the first place.

He can't find peace if he's dead

But if nic was killed by a mountain lion wouldn’t there be blood found?

Hopefully they just quit KZfaq

i used 2 watch them 2!!

@@undeadhaiena2926 Same here, I just hope that she’s safe given her inactivity online

seems like she just quit youtube either because its not profit or she just growing up

@@ratterkin Could be that

I am sad that she felt her job would have been in danger if she got help

Yes. Jasper LeStrange has not posted in months and I find I am bit worried.