Before the beginning of this past season and wings fans were asked if they’d be happy with the opportunity to be in the playoffs in the final week of the regular season, they take it. This season’s team got 91 points, 11 more points than last.

Goaltending is about number 5 on the list of reasons they didn’t make the playoffs. They don’t have an elite goalie but the ones they used did a great job of keeping them in almost all the games. IMO

I'm 52 I remember how bad the wings were before Yzerman and how when the wings got better but got bounced the first round each year and the "fans" in brackets because they aren't and weren't really fans and the talking heads questioned Stevie Ys heart and abilities. Stevie by the time the team won the Stanley Cups was playing on knees most of us would be whining and crying about daily, by the time 2001/2002 playoffs Yzerman had NO knees and he was the Heart and soul of the wings and he still is today, why did the wings win in 08 ? Pav and Hank never won scoring championships, who did we have? We had all the players that watched and learned from Yzerman how to check an ego and how the team was first and you came 2nd, then he goes into management and brings Canada 2 Gold medals at the Olympics and gold in other Canadian tournaments, He builds Tampa into a perennial playoff team with Championships, he had 9yrs in Tampa and the fans in Tampa were heartbroken when he left and he comes full circle and he is building a dynasty team for you "fans" but your a generation of Amazon door deliveries and shopping on your phone and tablet and majority of you have never paid for a ticket to a wings game but you have all the complaints 🤔 Sit down shut up and watch, until the team regresses in some Major way you have no business complaining, the team has got better by leaps and bounds compared to where they were when Stevie took over. Where was all this bullshit when Holland ran the team into the ground grifting playoff money with NO chance of winning? Where was this anger when Holland signed so many long term bad contracts? Helm, Cleary? Abdalkader? If I'm not mistaken this is the first year Yzerman didn't have to buy out a bad contract.

I remember two points Yzerman made at the start of the season when asked: 1. Tampa Bay is not going anywhere 2. Expecting playoffs this year is probably a bit too ambitious

Yzerman forgot more about hockey since I started typing this comment than 99% of the fans ever knew. Holland F**ked this team the last 5 years he was here. Holland success was no cap era and Mr I blanks checks. Yzerman is the greatest Captain in NHL history. They DON'T come back against Vancouver in 2002 without the Captain. Yzerman is going NO WHERE unless by choice. D Mac said it best, Yzerman wants to build a team with long term success, not one or two years. It might be 4 or 5 more seasons before they are a legit Cup contender, but when it happens, they will be in the conversations for 5 or 6 years. He built the Lightning team that won the Cup.

Stevie, us REAL fans can see what you are doing and still believe! I don't want a team that pulls off one cup and fades away! I want another team that threatens to win the cup for 26 years in a row!!! Like the one we had before!!!!! Keep doing what you do!!!!

We have two really good goalie prospects. Cossa and Trey Augustine. I think Trey's got tremendous potential.

What I don't see is people can not see like the lions wings are building for long term success

We have improved by a minimum of 6 points per season since Yzerman took over. If we improve by a margin comparable to the average margin we've improved EVERY YEAR since Steve Y took over, we make the playoffs next season no problem.

definitely a lot of misplaced aggression here. Even Ken said "lets just win one against the rangers first if we get in" 1 little OTL was the difference in the season. Not beating the caps at home was another. I'm not mad. Next year we might not be as lucky the way things currently stand. Still there will be more drive to get there especially after this. Larkin said it himself, don't forget.

The Red Wings are too soft I need some tough guys hard checkers

You know that no GM can fix what is broken in two or three seasons. There are to many variables in the rebuild. You have to try things, but they don't always work. Steve Y is the best at it. Tampa didn't Gey great right away. Its a puzzle. Not every piece fits right away. But if anyone can do it, he can. Keep up the good work.

I love " were not talking to the casual were talking to the real fans " love you D mac ❤❤

Yup! The great and powerful Oz has masterfully positioned himself to make the Wings a new Dynasty. Maybe we should call him the ZOz. 😜 GO WINGS!!

Yzerman did do a lot in terms of the roster Adding Debrincat and Kane were big moves. Sprong, Compher were nice pieces. Also having the three goalies was pivotal for them to have the run they did. Look I'm disappointed and frustrated like everyone else but when you take a step back they did make some big improvements this year. The team is much better offensively and if Edvinsson comes up sooner (was injured) they def get in. I'd like to see a different coach but I doubt it happens as I think Lalonde will get a third year. The wings should take that big step next year to not only being in the playoffs but winning a round or two if Yzerman can get another center and D man the roster will look good. They also need to keep Kane. That is key. I'd bring back Reimer as a backup but I think he will go with Husso and Lyon. I don't see Yzerman spending big $ on a goalie.

The wings need an upgrade at Goalie and Defense. We also need a couple of tough guys to stop these other teams from taking advantage of our stars, we need somebody to protect them. I have also come to believe that we do need an upgrade at coach also.

Don't be surprised if it really does take 8+ years to make the playoffs. The young guys have to come in and they'll need time.

the season was progress. playoffs came down to losing that final game vs Washington. i am happy to see Lucas Raymond becoming superstar, Edvinsson getting ice time and all of the prospects. a bit disappointed that Berggren was not a regular. hopefully another quality defenseman is ready to step in, the goaltending is another year away from Cossa, i am excited to see who Stevie signs in free agency.

Shots against - Wings - 2657... SA 'Canes - 2101.... 550 shot differential x 90% save rate leads me to believe that as many as 55 goals were caused by poor defense. But, +/- numbers tell me it's also a team that doesn't backcheck or play a 200' game.

They scored 274 But they conceded 270… which is 8th worst in the league That defense needs to improve tremendously You are as good as your defense And go as far as your defense More firepower won’t fix the issue

Fans are rightfully upset that after 5 years this team didn't make the playoffs. The "goalposts" moved from the start of the year to the end because (at times) the team played very well. After they got Kane, and then went on that winning streak in February, they looked like a dangerous playoff team. Stevie Y (along with the owner, other front office staff, and the coaches) decided to let the team sink or swim as it was (publicly stating that he felt they were good enough to make the playoffs as is,) but I feel it was to see how things played out. Why "rent" a player or 2 for a playoff push when if you kept the team As Is you'd better be able to see what, if anything, was truly needed? If they made the playoffs and however far they went, then great they'd assess after knowing what their strengths and weaknesses were. If they failed to make the playoffs, then they'd really have a crystal clear picture of their strengths and weaknesses. I understand why some may be upset, and some may be questioning Stevie Y, and I'm not just some Stevie Y slappy. I think they SHOULD have been in the playoffs and much improved by now as other teams "turned it around" within 5 years. But, other than them missing the playoffs again, I have liked almost everything they have done. Sure, I'd have loved it if they could've picked up a couple players to get them over the hump and into the playoffs, but what I REALLY want is a team built to win for decades. I think they are more than 1 or 2 pieces away (and that also is a criticism of Stevie Y) but if they can get the players to fill their holes in the off season that they feel can add to the team AND be around for more than just a playoff run...then that would put them into a much better place. Not contradictory because the circumstances would be different, but if they do that are easily playoff bound by next FA Deadline, maybe it would then make sense to pickup 1 or 2 guys for the playoff run if necessary. Hopefully their needs will be met this off season though so any FA deadlines moves would be either unnecessary or extra candy sprinkles atop their playoff team built sundae.

70% of the time they dump the puck behind the net they loose control of the puck.meanwhile 2 forward are rushing past the goalie to get behind the net

Darren's comment.. if youre disappointed now. Wait till you lose in the playoffs. 43 year fan and you nailed it. Its not the goalie..defense.. as Yzerman said in the press conference... if youre not scoring goals you better be accountable not giving up goais as forwards. Darren... you in my eyes will be not known the " Claude " brawl but the impact you had as a true all around player your whole career!

Can Osgood still lace em up?

The Red Wings need Tomas Holmström 2.0 and new Grindline for them. Trust the Yzerplan.

I dont care what anyone say's the wings did everything they had to to make the playoff's, the cards just had something different in store. some minor tweeks and they have a playoff run, maybe not a cup win but first maybe second round is very feesable. the yzerplan is coming together but it takes time to get all the wheels greased. they have cornerstones set, larken, raymond, sider, and others, and vets to help them learn. lets build on what has been accomplished this season and prepare for the next

I’m 48 I been watching redwings since I was a kid actually started when probert and kocur where rookies and yzerman had been in the league what 2 or 3 yrs before that. I watched them lose and build into a playoff team and eventually a perennial cup contender it took 10 yrs and they did that thru drafts getting the core foundation of the team Federov kozlov zettergerg datsyuk Lindstrom osgood Konstantinov DMac and other draft picks I am can’t name them all off hand. They build the cup team thru their picks and added once they had the core set. This is what yzerman is doing. I do not get why everyone is on his ass. He knows how this process works and he is doing exactly that. He knows exactly what he’s doing and giving up their future in prospects to get a player just to lose in the first round kills the teams future. It’s plain as day if you look at it realistically. Yzerman is doing what he was hired to do. This team over achieved this season in my opinion to get to final game and win but not get in sucks but to even get to that point is a success and progress. I’m ready to see if they make the next step next yr get into the playoffs. I expect them to lose the round but it’s forward progress. So good job wings yzerman. Good season learn and grow getting that close just makes the players hungrier for it next season

Our team can't win for losing with a lot of the "fans." They still complain when the boys win, and say things like, "You need to do this or that," or, "Yeah you won but it was sloppy, do better." Not going to lie, I was sad at the circumstances that our boys didn't make the playoffs, especially after how hard they pushed, and the excitement of those last games, Ghost's "6 ft vertical" was pretty epic, Raymond's push, etc. Our team is capable, I think they proved that. Now at the end, I am looking at the fact DRW had 11 points more than last year, that speaks volumes on how the Yzerplan is going; chugging along, full speed ahead.

One thing they can do is to bring in a vet goalie like John Gibson from Anaheim (Pat Verbeek connection there), who on his day, still a good goalie. And Yzerman can send some defense prospects to Ducks (or something like Berggren). But it also depends on Husso’s situation since Husso and Lyon are both under contract for another year, and you got Cossa in the AHL already.

You guys put it perfectly 👌🏻

So this year is not Red Wings year? And? They got youthful talent. Give it a couple of years and their bad times will be over

D Mac secretly wearing an underwear that says “Stevie’s number 1 fan” 😂

I don't think goalie is as much an issue. Husso wasn't healthy. We need an upgrade on defense. Our offense was our defense a lot of nights and the goalies saved us a few games if I recall. Edvinsson will be better next year and so will Seider so we have that to look forward to Raymond can still get better and Debrincat will be back. People point to the collapse but in the same breath say well Larkin was out and the flu bug hit the team and our back up goalie went cold smh. Sounds like pretty good reasons to me so I look forward to next year. Maybe Kane comes back and stays a point a game guy. Can't wait to see!!!!!

We improved 11 points this year. All we need are a couple more points next season and we’re in

d mac spitting truth!

Yzerman stated at the trade deadline that he was satisfied with his team. A man of his word. Trust the **Yzerplan?**

THANK YOU

Quick question, how many years do we trust the Yzerplan? 😅

I love Yzerman and believe in his process too - but it's become clear that there's nothing to gain from listening to Neal Ruhl because he will never criticize Yzerman under any circumstances

when Steve got here the cupboard was bare, the cap space was used up and he inherited a boat load of bad contracts. the last one still has 2 years on the books. and if it wern't for the free points from lost overtime games and shootouts, we would be in the playoffs today.

Get better defense. Opposing teams should not get straight looks into the goal from inside blue straight up almost unchallenged. Keep the shots from edge as much as possible. Sider needs speed skating practice. Goaltending is not the problem.

This show, the Wing wheel podcast, and locked on redwings are the only good takes on the wings this season!

It's the coach

Who is saying that Stevie Y did bad? Not sure Neil and D Mac are getting what many Wings fans were expecting. Again, like a broken record, when the Wings were up 10+ points on the teams that are now going to the playoffs (Isles, Caps) with about 3-4 weeks to go, they couldn't manage, even at half the pace of the Bolts' wins/losses, to secure that last wildcard spot, yes that last wildcard!!! Think back, better yet roll the tape, what you pundits were talking about when the Wings were in the first wildcard spot and on the virge of challenging 3rd place in their division. Then, after that Panther game and Larkin out for ages, the Wings went on a backwards roll nearly outside the last wildcard spot and eventually invited the Caps, Isles, and Pens to put them out of contention. Wings were so close and couldn't manage even to win one more game during that stretch. This could be attributed to the Wings organization as a whole, but you have to point to head coaching as the responsible party here. As close as the Wings were at the end of the season, Lalonde was making statements that just didn't sit well with many Wings fans, statements mirroring that of a defeatist. Didn't make any sense. Doesn't matter what the odds were at the beginning of the season on whether or not the Wings chances weren't good, they were smack in it right to the end. As a hockey club, you can't let one person out with an injury (Larkin) determine your hopes for a playoff birth. Too many excuses from pundits on protecting or shielding the Wings from any responsibility from not having made the playoffs. What were the predictions for Boston at the beginning of the season? Weren't they also a club destined for a rebuild as well? Bottom line is the Wings were that close, and gave it to the Caps and the Isles the chance to get into the post season, also obvious from some help by the Flyers. Just think, the Caps got in with the tie breaker results they had versus the Wings. If the Wings had one more point than the Caps, they would have been in the playoffs, and the Caps would've been watching from home. Excuses by pundits when the Wings were THAT CLOSE jist doesn't cut it for me. On his show/podcast, Mike Valenti was right. You guys (Neil and D Mac) are wrong (not because of Stevie Y, as Stevie Y relied on the results of the team's success at the trade deadline, but because the Wings were so, so close. Lalonde SHOULD have made it his top priority to get the Wings to the playoffs. He did not.)

I trust yzerplan

Stevie had MESS to figure out when he took over (Ken Holland)so clean that mess up give him a chance only thing will work out k

Yeah definitely need a grind line like D Mac 😂 we need people to take out the trash 🗑️

I feel as if getting around Raymond and Seider extensions concomitantly will make this a worse team next year. For me, not making the playoffs the year after next will make for the portent of a failed rebuild attempt (which does happen because players don't pan out).

I get it he wants to make a bad ass team that’s good for at least a decade

I trust Lalonde very much!

This year: More points,less goals against,more goals….SY is the best

I'm not so sure if Yzerman knows exactly what he's doing. Red wings been going through transition for the last 5-6 yrs if not longer. We need to see results here! We need new coach, goalies,defence! Red wings went through 25 yrs playoff stretch before,and now 8 yrs no playoff. Unacceptable!!! Somebody have to start taking responsibility already. Enough of this bullshit about transition. Fans are demanding to see results or we will stop attending the games at the LCA!!!

Anyone who thinks this is taking too long should go look at the roster and cap 5 years ago. The whole organization had to be gutted and rebuilt and the only one left is Larkin. Blame Holland not Yzerman, btw we’re still paying Abdelkadar, Hollands bad decisions aren’t even fully purged yet

Why won’t Bertie get a fair shot at this team?

Detroit has done great things this season than they have, but again Lalonde is a Tampa Ingredient that doesn't work, all I can say is we draft good this year, there's a great pool of draft picks, Ryder Ritchie, Henry Mews, Sam Dickinson, Macklin Celebrini, Tij Iginla the list goes on, and yes we are stuck with Lyon and Husso next season, there is no way Cossa is NHL ready. Kane will probably go back to Hawks, i'll be shocked if he sticks in Detroit. There is some bandages we need on this team in free agency, and we shall see. We started out great at the beginning of this season and finished in cinematic fashion. If we don't make the playoffs for 9th straight year, Yzerman's job may be in jeopardy as well as Lalonde.

I'm sticking with Yzerman I think he knows what he's doing but he has made some bad signings. These guys are ridiculous though they are Redwings Pravda,

Ville husso is back next season

If they don't make the playoffs it's because of players that don't have it mentally. Even Copp has to go imo

I don't want to enjoy my season like Toronto and Edmonton just so my April and May is a failure. That's what 19 gets. That's what 25 gets and the boys. Steve got hear there was a turkey on the table. Now there's just peas. Boys are getting hungry. That's what you need.

They could go get a top end goalie and they will still look like shit until they can figure out the turnover issue, our goalies were hung out to dry all year

This team is not making the playoffs next season. 100% not happening lmao Unfortunetly the goalie duo will be back and if we come back with petry gost maata this team will absolutely blow . All I want is to see is edvinsson Berggren johansson kasper play full season next year. Not deluding myself next season. This team is going nowhere until the kids start playing and produce. Be nice to see Fabbri,holl,copp etc.. gone l don’t care if salary has to be retained . Want them gone Calling it now Draisaitl will be a redwing in the 2025 free agency. Oilers fail in the playoffs again he’s gone ... , be nice to add another physical defensive dman by then . one more year of pain folks

Biggest need? A coaching change. Coaching held this team back all season long.

DMac is right about the casual fans. They don't see immediate results and then they start with critiques from the peanut gallery. They don't know how to look at the big picture and don't understand how far Stevie has brought this team from the virtual wasteland Ken Holland left it in when he departed. The wings are getting better not just in the short term, but in the long term as well. Trust the Yzer-plan!

Biggest need is goaltending. Have to get Markstrom

what are we gonna do with all this squid

Ok its not just me. So many Wings fans no nothing.

Trade raymond and Cossa 😂idiots ...wouldn’t take those guys to land a markstrom 😂 we don’t need a markstrom though or a goalie cause we won’t win shit next season regardless if we had him or not and Cossa will be ready in 25-26 . Be nice to get an upgrade but there’s no one out there. Sign a guy who can be the next lindgren and if husso has to be the 3rd guy and go on waivers nobody will ever touch him. Otherwise wait

Homeboy says he talks to us like he talks to people sitting on a barstool. So, HE is that drunk old beliggerent guy at the end of the bar every night spouting out about "Kids nowadays got no respect...When I was a kid......"

Yzerman,Detroit's golden boy gets a free pass...

No he doesnt

He needs to go if we don’t make it next year

The team is not realistically playoff-caliber next year.

Yzerman signed Holl and Petry to horrible contracts. That doesn’t seem like someone who knows what they are doing.

Yzerman couldn’t find much in the way of D last year. Holl was a bust, Petry should retire, and Ghost is an add to the O, but not really the D.

9 points over the cut line in February. Lost by a point at the end?? Lost twice to Arizona… FAIL.

Im sorry but McCarty is a yzerman Slappy

Yzerman is 100% on the lukewarm seat. I'm sorry but 5yrs in and its not good enough. Petry, Holl, Chiarot, Lyon, Husso, Nedljovic, Kostin, Reimer, were weak/bad signings ; The team has collapsed 2 years in a row ; the team was not prepared for at least a couple dozen games ; and lastly the wings are not going to be able to sign all their FAs due to the cap & I do not trust hardly any of our prospects to fill the production gap next season. Hopefully, Yzerman goes and gets someone of note but I dont know if he'll be able to

THIS PUTS US FANS IN SAME SITUATION AS BEING LIONS FANS! EXTREMELY EXCITED FOR NEXT YEAR! KEEP IT UP STEVE

Most they shouldn't keep. But Yzerman needs to step it up. The "Yzerplan" is STALLED. Time to jump start it, or forget it.