Which Airplane Should I Build
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@bleonardyou
@bleonardyou 21 сағат бұрын
I owned a Piper Turbo Arrow III for most of the 1980s and got my instrument and commercial ratings in it. Loved that plane. I hope you enjoy yours as well. The PA 28 series is a good one with something for most people somewhere in the lineup.
@bleonardyou
@bleonardyou 21 сағат бұрын
I owned a Piper Turbo Arrow III for most of the 1980s and got my instrument and commercial ratings in it. Loved that plane. I hope you enjoy yours as well. The PA 28 series is a good one with something for most people in the lineup.
@stephensimpson5283
@stephensimpson5283 Күн бұрын
Sub'd. I'm just starting a RV-7a.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Күн бұрын
Congratulations! Love to hear how it goes. Is this your first build?
@stephensimpson5283
@stephensimpson5283 18 сағат бұрын
@@BlueSkyFlight Yes. I did help a friend build his and was hooked.
@helichrisPA28
@helichrisPA28 2 күн бұрын
Great video again Bob!! 🤗🤗💪
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Күн бұрын
Thanks again!
@cbennet1
@cbennet1 4 күн бұрын
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, this is inspiring to those of us getting ready to start our own projects. Keep the build videos coming no matter the content!
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for that. Very nice to hear… I will keep it coming. :)
@JoeyWebber955
@JoeyWebber955 4 күн бұрын
Just found your channel . I love seeing the different ways people build their Vans .
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 4 күн бұрын
Hopefully I don’t do anything too different :) Hope you like the channel. Thanks for watching!
@randy-johnkostapapas9944
@randy-johnkostapapas9944 6 күн бұрын
I agree . Don't let the camera distract you .. a mess up could cost your life..
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 4 күн бұрын
It’s definitely a good idea to read through the instructions a few times, away from the project, just to build a good mental image of the process. There have been a few times that I didn’t fully get what they were saying on the first read through. And I do have one error that someone pointed out that I’ll be correcting and covering in an upcoming video in a couple weeks.
@randy-johnkostapapas9944
@randy-johnkostapapas9944 4 күн бұрын
@@BlueSkyFlight they have all the parts in cad for there cnc operations... It wouldn't be hard to input them in an animation... Of step by step instructions .. including... What rivets to do in what order and everything... To make an interactive instruction guide... I bet this would free up someone answering the phone all the time ...
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 4 күн бұрын
Might make it too easy… got to have a little challenge:)
@wpattison
@wpattison 9 күн бұрын
Interesting, I would have guessed the fluting was to introduce rigidity.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 8 күн бұрын
Yeah I always wondered how you know how much to flute, but now it makes sense… as much as it takes to get it straight
@wpattison
@wpattison 8 күн бұрын
@@BlueSkyFlight Really enjoying the videos!
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 4 күн бұрын
Thank you… really glad to hear that!
@helichrisPA28
@helichrisPA28 10 күн бұрын
Love your videos Bob!! Awesome 🤩
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 10 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! Really nice to hear that.
@helichrisPA28
@helichrisPA28 10 күн бұрын
@@BlueSkyFlight do you already know what engine you’re going to use? For the RV14? Are there options?
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 9 күн бұрын
I can either use a standard 200hp IO 360 Lycoming, same as my Arrow, or I could go with the new experimental IO 390 from Lycoming that has 210hp… haven’t decided yet.
@helichrisPA28
@helichrisPA28 9 күн бұрын
@@BlueSkyFlight ok great options!! 💪
@setafavn
@setafavn 10 күн бұрын
Looking good. Has your family started to call you Bob the Builder?
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 10 күн бұрын
LOL… that happened a long time ago :)
@rodmanser7573
@rodmanser7573 16 күн бұрын
I forgot, what did you end up doing with that plywood from the factory in the rear floor? How much did it weigh? I think I recommended replacing with a Gillfab composite sandwich flooring from - or was it a sound dampener issue? Also what did you fly for a living? sorry to be so forgetful
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 16 күн бұрын
I replaced it by making a new one. Same wood same weight, just new… see the link below. I’ve flown the A320, 757, 767, 737, and the EMB-145. Make a New Seat Bench for your Piper Arrow Interior kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ftGDlMd-zLfboWQ.html
@rodmanser7573
@rodmanser7573 16 күн бұрын
@@BlueSkyFlight curious what was the change OEW and CG when you finished - or did i miss it in the cost video?
@grantrotunda3100
@grantrotunda3100 19 күн бұрын
I think the Vertical Stab is built with RV7 parts (VS 7xx) and that’s why they aren’t final drilled. Same with some of the rudder parts (R-912). When you get to the 14xx, and most of the 10xx part numbers, they are final drilled. I’m enjoying the series, thanks for putting these out
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 19 күн бұрын
That makes sense. Thanks for that. So far the vast majority of the HS parts and skins have all been final sized. Glad you’re enjoying it!
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 19 күн бұрын
Rotax appears to discourage the use of quick drains on their oil tanks and I am debating whether to just invest in a siphon pump and remove most of the oil that way before removing the stock drain plug and getting oil all over the firewall and engine mount. I wish Rotax had provided a much better drain system given where most of their oil tanks get mounted.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 19 күн бұрын
What is their reason for discouraging?
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 19 күн бұрын
@@BlueSkyFlight I have no idea. I suspect they simply don’t want to take the time to test different quick drains and the easy legal solution is to simply say they can’t be used. My airplane is a homebuilt, so I can use whatever I want, however, I generally try to stay close to generally accepted practices and manufacturers recommendations.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 19 күн бұрын
Makes sense
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 19 күн бұрын
The Saf-Air web site clearly calls out the issue with the Piper Arrow. Whenever someone performs improper maintenance or repair on an airplane, it can create a hazard. I had a significant oil leak (6 quarts in 1.5 hours) on my Skylane years ago. It was due to an A&P who didn’t confirm that the oil filter gasket had come off with the old filter and ended up double gasketing the filter. Well, two gaskets won’t contain the oil pressure and I landed after a 1.5 hour flight with oil all over the belly of the airplane. Somewhat disconcerting and took nearly a full day to clean up.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 19 күн бұрын
What a mess I’m sure. Yes I saw that on their site after the fact. It was a learning moment for sure
@mtiffee
@mtiffee 27 күн бұрын
Really nice Bob! Excellent details and diagrams mixed in with the cut out parts. I know how hard it is to record while building and then go edit in your “free time”. If I ever build a 14 I’ll be referencing your videos for sure! You coming to OSH?
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I’m planning to. Won’t have my July schedule for about another week. But definitely planning to. I’m still up for a ride in the ultralight area if you are!
@cbennet1
@cbennet1 27 күн бұрын
Ok. That was worth the wait. :-). Keep up the level of detail. This is going to help me massively when I start my 14!
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 27 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! Glad to hear that. My goal is to provide some good insight, nice to know it’s helping!
@dismaldunc
@dismaldunc 27 күн бұрын
FIRST!
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 27 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for watching!
@cbennet1
@cbennet1 Ай бұрын
Workmanship looks great! Very motivating for my soon to start build. I’ve been debating the prime/no prime question and if yes, then which one. I like what I see in your choice.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 29 күн бұрын
That’s great that you’re getting close. Definitely a lot of priming options. See quite a few people just opt for rattle cans of self etching primer from the hardware store… probably a lot easier than all the paint gun setup stuff. IDK… I also stumbled on to Stewart Systems. It’s a no VOC option so you don’t need all the protective gear… from what I’ve read the only downside is that you need to let it cure for several days before you work with it… but depending on your work schedule. That might not be an issue
@nuevelima
@nuevelima Ай бұрын
CYTZ Toronto city airport?
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
That’s the one! Check out the Toronto City Airport plus and Update on the RV-14 Airplane building kzfaq.info/get/bejne/guByjNx9p9zSeIE.html
@George-fh9zm
@George-fh9zm Ай бұрын
Your cameras are incredible.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the view.
@bradgoodbread7976
@bradgoodbread7976 Ай бұрын
I replaced the Baggage Door Strap on my Arrow with the Gas Strut Baggage Door Steward! You will Love It!
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
I’ve seen those. That does look like a good idea
@rickpearce4653
@rickpearce4653 Ай бұрын
Good job . Looks like the insulation you installed will help with exterior noise entering the cabin .
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
Thanks it seems to be doing a good job and I feel like the temperature is better as well.
@juanv8216
@juanv8216 Ай бұрын
How do you remove the door plastic. I have a Piper archer and need to replace the door plastic which is similar to your Arrow.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
If you’re talking about the plastic trim around the top half if the door, you have to remove the screws and the latch cover at the top and then should be just the trim screws around the perimeter.
@duanemckitterick3450
@duanemckitterick3450 Ай бұрын
Once the Eddy current inspection is completed, do you know what is the time frame for consecutive inspections? I was reading 3-5 years but unsure if that was correct. Thanks! Keep up with the great content.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
I had not seen any language requiring any further inspections in the AD. I wouldn’t think it would be anywhere near that often. It’s not good to remove those bolts so often. Each time you do you risk damaging the holes. Where are you seeing that.
@duanemckitterick3450
@duanemckitterick3450 Ай бұрын
Looks like a lot of fun ahead. like a kid in a candy store, ha ha
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
Indeed!!! :)
@SICDavid
@SICDavid Ай бұрын
Nice work. I’m new to aviation and working on my check-ride. Will be purchasing a Piper as my first aircraft. How much should I budget to do the same thing you did to a Piper 180? Could you give your audience a high, medium, and low budget number? Big thanks and you have a beautiful aircraft.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
I’ll provide a link to a video where I break down the cost of my renovation. I mentioned in it the my cost would have been 1000 less if I did not do leather on the seats. The video description will also have a link to the Airtex website. You can look up prices for materials specific to a 180 there. Hope that helps! Thank for watching. What's the Cost for a New Interior in a Piper Arrow airplane kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nMqpnZentrazgIE.html
@SICDavid
@SICDavid Ай бұрын
@@BlueSkyFlight Thanks so much! You got me all jazzed up to purchase and pimp my ride!
@dongmingbai3492
@dongmingbai3492 Ай бұрын
This is a amazing job. I just bought a SCS carpet due to small animal peed my rear seat floor and cargo floor. I wanna change both floorboard for sure, but i am not sure can i made the floorboard by myself, is it a legal?
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
When in doubt, I would say always ask an A&P. With that said, most interior work is allowed to be performed by the owner as outlined in 14 CFR Part 43, Appendix A, Subpart C (Preventive Maintenance). I'll provide a link below, just scroll down to subpart C. From what I read there the owner can repair and replace the majority of the non-structural items in the interior (as long as the replacement parts are certified to meet the appropriate standards). All of the carpets and other materials I used for my renovation were from Airtex Products and come with a certificate for my logbook showing that they meet all FAA requirements for fire, etc. There's also a ton of other maintenance that the owner can perform on their airplane in general - but I'd say always talk to an A&P if you're unsure. www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-C/part-43#Appendix-A-to-Part-43
@madisonromero3529
@madisonromero3529 Ай бұрын
I am totally hooked to your videos. Great work and super interesting content. I am about to repaint my plane.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
Thanks for that! Glad you are enjoying them. Are YOU painting it? What do you have?
@ericschoeman6613
@ericschoeman6613 Ай бұрын
The arrows are gr8
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
Agreed!
@madisonromero3529
@madisonromero3529 Ай бұрын
These videos are amazing. I am about to redo the interior of my Archer and you have given me so many tips and tricks that I don’t have to figure out in process.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
So glad to hear that! It’s exactly why I started the channel to document the process and share what I learned.
@setafavn
@setafavn Ай бұрын
Ahem. Excuse me, but it’s been a couple weeks since this video has come out. We’re ready for part 4. 😅 Just sayin….
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
I know… got a little tied up with life :). I’m doing the rudder in one video so was waiting until it’s complete… which it almost is. Initial cuts, fit, prep and prime are done and riveting started yesterday. Should be complete later in the week and then a few days to edit video.
@cargoloader
@cargoloader Ай бұрын
Really great video... extremely helpful, thank you!.... Just a question. Is it possible to fly without the Wing Root Seal?
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
Check with an A&P but I don’t think it would be a good idea. Without it you’re letting a lot of wind and potentially moisture inside of the wing and the wing spar. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks!
@jtflypegasus
@jtflypegasus Ай бұрын
do you need to do a new weight and balance for the log book?
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight Ай бұрын
Depends on how much you change. Check with your A&P. For me the insulation swap was pretty even as far as the weight. Same with the seats and panels.
@Flyboy-ew7ih
@Flyboy-ew7ih 2 ай бұрын
It looks great. Very nice color choices. Your narration is very enjoyable. I was happy see that the materials are from Airtex. I am planning to replace the interior on my C-182Q later this year using Airtex products. I will be a hapy man if it turns out as nice as your Arrow.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for all of the compliments. Yes I am very happy with the quality of the products from Airtex. As you can see, the fit is very good and they are great to deal with. I’d love to see some pictures of your renovations. Shoot me an email to [email protected] with the before/after pics. Looking forward to it!
@howardgilfert5627
@howardgilfert5627 2 ай бұрын
I will do so. Thanks.
@bobgreer9272
@bobgreer9272 2 ай бұрын
Ryan flys used broom handle to peel blue film off skins
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 2 ай бұрын
I’ve seen that trick. I’ll probably use it on some bigger parts. Thank you!
@bobgreer9272
@bobgreer9272 2 ай бұрын
Used cologr marker others used tape. So not to put wrong rivet in wrong hole
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I use the tape quite a bit :)
@helichrisPA28
@helichrisPA28 2 ай бұрын
Really great video and content!! Love it! Keep up the great work and videos!
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@rscrymes
@rscrymes 2 ай бұрын
I am days away from completion. Is there any type of seal between the inner and outer latch on the top of the door? Prior to this renovation I noticed some water on the right side. I’m replacing the seal and wind lace, but still concerned about the potential of leaks. I saw a video that showed 2 neoprene washers on both sides of the other latch, but in the diagram I found I only see one on the outside. I don’t think it will hurt to put one on the inside too…
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 2 ай бұрын
I don’t have any additional insight on that one, but as long as the mechanism functions with the second washer, I would think it couldn’t hurt either. Congratulations on nearing the end!
@rscrymes
@rscrymes 2 ай бұрын
I’m in the home stretch of my overhaul with the pilot, copilot, and door panels to finish it off. Really happy with how it’s turning out. My trim is a bit darker than my vinyl, but I went with it anyway. It is actually so different it doesn’t even look like I was trying 😂. Question: I’m getting ready to secure the pilot and copilot panels and I am not super comfortable about how close they are to the rudder pedals. It’s not necessarily touching them but there seems to be play as I can push the panels toward the wall a couple inches. Did you secure it somehow?
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations on nearing the finish line. I didn’t have any of the play you’re describing, so no I didn’t need to. Airtex may have some suggestions. Email me some pics when you’re done. I’d love to see it.
@dismaldunc
@dismaldunc 2 ай бұрын
this is fun, lots of new things I have never heard of , looking forward to the next installment
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 2 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that! Thanks for watching… more coming soon.
@wshauck9527
@wshauck9527 2 ай бұрын
Great way to write your builder log.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 2 ай бұрын
I agree. Thank you for watching!
@peteberry6425
@peteberry6425 2 ай бұрын
that was real good, I'll certainly enjoy watching the process of how it goes together, and I liked the explanations on how things work, like the pneumatic rivet gun for instance
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 2 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that. Thanks very much for watching!
@frankforeman5795
@frankforeman5795 3 ай бұрын
If you haven't already you need to buy some "opps" rivets for when drilling out a rivet goes bad.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 2 ай бұрын
I have them standing by… LOL
@ericdebruyne8884
@ericdebruyne8884 3 ай бұрын
splendid place for flying and nice video !
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Yeah beautiful area! Nice restaurant at the field too.
@AndresPlaza
@AndresPlaza 3 ай бұрын
Approach really didn't want to deal with your request! 😂
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I could tell… lol. He was a little busy though
@peteberry6425
@peteberry6425 3 ай бұрын
looked to be a beautiful day for a flight!
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 3 ай бұрын
It really was. Thanks for watching!
@pingle37
@pingle37 3 ай бұрын
Niceeeeeee scenery up the Gulf Coast . And the Apopka Airport , narrow runway right next to the highway . Thx for posting . That Arrow looks awesome .
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@irubenguler
@irubenguler 3 ай бұрын
Congrats on the plane! If you don’t mind me asking, what’s the reason in purchasing a plane? And do you feel like it’s worth it? Since you’ve owned it for a few months.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 3 ай бұрын
Something I’ve wanted to do since I was a kid. If you fly at least a handful of times a month I think the math works out to make it better than renting. But without that, having it available when you want it, and the ability to keep it clean, make the interior how you want it, etc. are the most compelling factors for me. Fixed Cost of ownership, without actually flying it, is about $1200 per month (hangar, insurance, annual inspection, loan). After that it’s about $60 per flight hour for gas.
@jorgemedina9230
@jorgemedina9230 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great videos. I have an Archer II. I bought my windows from LP Aero, the Pilot and Copilot are 1/4" with a vent window on both. the rest are 3/16th. I had to trim the window over the baggage door, because it's about a 1/2 shorter than the pilot side rear window. I used a Milwaukee 3" metal cutting wheel to trim the windows and to round out the corners. It works great on plexiglass. Thanks again.
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 3 ай бұрын
Sounds great. I thought about getting the front passenger window with the vent. I think it’s a great option for your passengers. Thanks for watching!
@dancross9993
@dancross9993 3 ай бұрын
Hey Bob - I have a PA-28 Archer. I'm looking at picking up some of that 1/2 & 1/4 sound proofing. How many sheets did you order or each?
@BlueSkyFlight
@BlueSkyFlight 3 ай бұрын
So my order was for 2 Sheets of the 1/4 inch and 4 Yards of the 1/2 inch. I think they changed the way they sell it now… it’s either both by the yard or sheet. Not sure. But just tell Airtex your aircraft serial number and they can tell you how much you need.