Probably, but why?

This channel was better when it was an MESBG channel, not this toxic GW money grabbin bullocks

Very cool video. I don’t play but I respect the work that goes into painting!

Fantastic video!

They look awesome! Good job!

Speedpaint with no speedpaint??? 😂 Kidding ofc 😉 Got any paint tips or a favorite brand? Maybe a vid would be a thing about your paint habits? 😊

Awesome 🔥

This was fun to watch, thanks for sharing. I do hope you do the Skaven too. Not because I'm a Skaven fan. That's entirely unrelated 🤣

As a few others have said on here, lifelong fan of both. Fact is Middle Earth SBG is a MUCH better game. Main proof is the core rules have never truly changed for one. Lore wise im not touching that one but i know where i will go there and back again for.

Great playthrough and review guys. Very helpful to me. Now I can teach my friends how to play and enjoy. Thank you so much. 🙂

MESBG easy

Also, the MESBG lore is better.

MESBG is the best. The wound chart is actually pretty simple.

AoS > Necromunda > Warcry > Kill Team > 40k

To be honest, the wound chart for MESBG is basically the same as the system in 40k but just written down. equal STR and DEF is always a 4, if the difference is 1 or 2 you need a 5, for a diff of 3 it's a 6 and so on. Different numbers but the same basic idea

For me MESBG is the better rule set for me as all the rule are clear and make sense with no messy writing that cause a rule to be able to be read different ways. plus 40K rules and books are spread all over the places or are outdated so quickly really hard tell what rule to use or rule have written is wrong now because been change in some document but they didn't update another source that has the original rule. Also involving wounding system between two system yes 40K ones lot easier to remember but for 8th & 9th edition it cause Vehicle to pretty much be made of paper because different between Toughness and Strength but this was fix in 10th mostly with unbound Toughness and nerfing number weapons. if you introduces it to MESBG it would break the game as current S & D would not work as creatures with D higher enough that need 6 into 4 would just be 6 now. This would allow weight of dices from range or melee be able take out large threats that take big chunk of armies points much more easier as only way make up for this would give more wounds, armour save or feel no pains this bloating time to play and having remake whole interaction of the game. it also make low strength weapon feel weird as either going hit the 6 needed to wound earlier compare to currently or be just as effect as other higher more common Strength that run into the need 6 moment. example would common strength of bow being 2 or 3 appending on faction to would need 6 at Defences 4 this would suddenly make number of armies a lot tougher to kill with them where 2 just good as a strength 3 bow moment you hit defence 6 meaning any unit that has Defences 7 and higher would mean nothing now to those common strength in the game. so in the end it mess with a lot with MESBG system Sorry for large paragraph just want make point about some of the trouble with 40K wounding system that they brought over from side game as does make it simpler but took 3 addition to get vehicle working as removed 7th and older face and armour rating plus made some weapon fill lost there place in the game as other were just one take as other had no reason to be used now. I do still play 40K and have found 10th has been more fun with friend as more causal and we had trouble with all Stratagems older 8th & 9th as over 20 per faction with quite few that just were gotcha moments. i do get whole new system rush and new stuff coming out always seem fun but I have gotten tired as seem like every other week game has change drastic in points or how whole rules work or abilities. there really no easy provided way to keep up with game workshop unless spending all time on there site and checking all the time. but glad enjoying 40K and all.

Hard disagree with the save roll for mesbg. That would severely unbalance the game, increase how long games take and it defeats the point of the strength vs Defence chart. Imgine how long it would take if a Horde army all had to roll extra dice for the save, plus if the save was a 4 up then it would mean 50% of the units survive. Time to break would increase significantly.

The way it was explained to me, Armor Saves were just built into an MESBG model’s Defence. The move and charge concept, is much different when using a gun vs using archery.

MESBG player that recently dipped their toes into 40k. I prefer MESBG but the set amount of turns and dynamic turn based objectives of 40k do have some appeal where you can do something else than just kill eachother. Its hard to implement for MESBG due to the much lower movement.

Adding savings throws to MESBG is a terrible idea imo, rolling more dice and rerolls just lengthen the game. Fate is great attribute it does what it needs to do to separate big heroes.

I play both, and god, MESBG blows 40k out of the water. Even before the absolute crap that 10th is. It's more thematic, there's more interaction between players at every point, there's more tactical depth, the balance is *chef's kiss* and it actually rewards tactical play, unlike 40k where the strategy mostly comes down to list building and shooting the biggest thing.

"Warhammer 40k vs Middle Earth Strategy, which do you prefer?" D&D. I prefer D&D.

VERY happy to see new vids on this channel. Please keep them coming!!

You didn't discuss price. Middle-earth is much cheaper to get into and start playing standard point games!

I think you can better compare mesbg with some of the better designed spin off games like Kill Team. But yea, modern 40k is dogsh*t in comparison (I play both)

Middle earth all the way! I tried both still doing mesbg

As a fellow store owner when building your tables you are better off going more narative and cool rather than tournament.

Play on tabletop channel did a battle at helms deep with some custom rules for large scale battle and seemed great 👌

MESBG no competition

Its MESBG all the way. 40k is fine and the lore is amazing but MESBG is just top bloody tier. S TIERRRRRRRR

To even compare the 2 is silly. MESBG is the superior game and rules set. I do love 40K tho, but my god is MESBG just the better game.

As a player of both, its MESBG and it's not even close

Erestor has re-roll to wound on both combat and his throwing daggers (which he also has)

Barely discovered this game! I want to get it but my question is where did you get the painted miniatures?

Dam I can't afford to see you. But I wish you the best of luck!!!

So this didnt happen then? Episide 2?

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I've watched loads of your MESBG reports knew you were Welsh but didn't realize you were that close, I will definitely be in next time I'm around Newport

Good video!!

Congratulations guys, great accomplishment! Best of luck with it!

Absolutely love how the store looks!! If I'm ever anywhere close I will 100% stop by. I'm from the US but will be vacationing in Scotland in the not too distant future. Can't wait to see more on this channel!!!

very nice store.

Epic accomplishment guys! Cheers from the United States!

So chuffed for you guys, been following your channels in various forms for YEARS and it genuinely makes me happy to see you absolutely smashing the granny out of life

This is awesome, great job glad to see you guys succeed. Deserve it all!

dam! what achievement excellent job both of you.

Awesome store/ set up! Wish there wasn't an ocean in the way or I'd be there nearly everyday.

Nice, did I miss your guys' location at the beginning of the video? I'll be down to visit if I can.

It's a lush store. Really enjoyed chatting to you guys too. Will be spending plenty in there! We still need to paint our Balrog! 😅