Donna Wieszorek testifies in the trial of Jennifer and Joseph Rosenbaum on July 25, 2019. Wieszorek has been treating Millie Daniel for about a year to help her adjust to her new home.
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@vickiekasafirek90965 жыл бұрын
I am so so sick of this defense attorney trying to blame everything on Millie lying. She can lie till the cows come home that doesn't in any way change the fact that these monsters beat this poor baby to death. PERIOD.
@judgementalchihuahua7055 жыл бұрын
I agree Ms. Mull has been making me crazy through this entire trial. Starting with opening statement!
@vickiekasafirek90965 жыл бұрын
@@judgementalchihuahua705 me too. If i never see her in another trial it would be too soon.
@leeshaayo2855 жыл бұрын
If the defense doesnt do their best the case can be thrown out.
@Jinxs-Journey5 жыл бұрын
So annoys me also because Millie’s bruises match her testimony about what caused hers and Laila injuries.
@CECICEO-cz9ho5 жыл бұрын
I am too - it's sickening.
@marciamellow12115 жыл бұрын
Leave Millie alone... figure it out ADULTS, TRY THAT... AND GET IT RIGHT...
@terrihomer17905 жыл бұрын
Millie is suffering from PTSD , because she was abused by Jennifer while Joseph stood by not doing a damn thing to help
@katiesue49255 жыл бұрын
He’s as guilty, he was completely involved in the murder along with his devil wife
@Teresia125 жыл бұрын
She absolutely had PTSD!!! My young grandson has it from sexual abuse by an older boy. It comes out in many ways. It requires love and patience and specialized counseling.
@marycanfield86544 жыл бұрын
@Roxanne Daniel millie was there, in the courtroom?
@marycanfield86544 жыл бұрын
God bless you Leila and Millie. Amen.
@michellecogdill61283 жыл бұрын
@@marycanfield8654 Yes on the witness stand which they wouldn't show her we just heard her testimony.
@sandramoore43565 жыл бұрын
When a child goes through this kind of trauma the mind often does what it needs to do to cope with the pain. It often buries the memories that cause extreme fear, guilt and sadness.
@burghstrong68785 жыл бұрын
Millie said" there's good & bad people & I can't tell the difference" wow...out of the mouths of babes.
@AdrianaHernandez-zr9gd5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely heartbreaking
@garden51375 жыл бұрын
Wow!! That poor baby 💔 what a true statement. I hope Millie continues to get therapy bc she's a victim, also
@The2391daniel4 жыл бұрын
NOLA GIRL I
@patriciabarajas79254 жыл бұрын
Yes, this really struck me too. Such raw fear. Poor baby.
@sarahendrix31323 жыл бұрын
Maybe later in life she will be given the gift of discernment. She explained what its like not to have it but it is one of the gifts God can give people :)
@andreashields69835 жыл бұрын
This defense attorney is awful. She can barely form a thought!
@Kitti35294 жыл бұрын
I think they did that on purpose, then they can claim incompetent defense and try to overturn the conviction they knew they would get..
@helenholt11614 жыл бұрын
@@Kitti3529 No. First, it is almost impossible to get a conviction over turned. Better to be found innocent first try. Second, that wouldnt even come close to meeting the criteria for incompetence. You have to show that your lawyer was falling down drunk or severely mentally ill or, and this what incompetent really means, lied about being a educated and licenced legal representative. If your lawyer lied about being certified or licenced to practice you can then claim incompetence.
@fabiolaescamillagarcia80374 жыл бұрын
I just think that too.
@rachelbettac2383 жыл бұрын
Omg I know! The defense attorney is a joke! I can’t stand her!
@daniellea423 жыл бұрын
Maybe she isn’t interested in trying very hard because she knows they did it and deserve to go down for it
@klarastern55974 жыл бұрын
"...because there are bad and good people in this world, and I can't tell the difference..." To really KNOW that at that ages... is heart stomping 😢
@jillianlea96904 жыл бұрын
You can't call a coping method ...lying ....she may have psychologically blocked it...that's not lying that's trauma . Trauma!!
@kiritolifeinacoma73103 жыл бұрын
Her young mind doesn't know how to compute the physical abuse or the PTSD from watching her sister murdered. So she will make up alternate outcomes to avoid dealing with the trauma. I say if after this all she does is lie then leave her alone. All kids lie. Adults lie. Like her foster parents. This is horrific 😢
@heathersprings24403 жыл бұрын
Amen to that !
@cherry-oy3ig2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely well said! Poor Millie!
@nybrite463 жыл бұрын
"There are bad and good people in this world and I can not tell the difference" This is so heartbreaking. Those little angels were failed by everyone and I pray Millie will overcome all of the trauma. RIP little angel
@itswhatyoumakeit69505 жыл бұрын
It's kind of nice that this counselor travels to the child, it has to be more comfortable at home rather than some office. Poor kids.
@klarastern55974 жыл бұрын
I like that too... it's probably way easier for the children in an environment they know :)
@jillianlea96904 жыл бұрын
That's why they do that ....especially for younger children with abuse and foster care history
@tracycottrell51463 жыл бұрын
Unless home is hell. You want to make sure what you say to your therapist when the devil is listening from the other room
@autumecross54275 жыл бұрын
All I can say is Milli has been through absolute HELL and she is a victim, who cares if that poor baby can't keep EVERYTHING she's been subjected to straight! Monsters do exist and they are sitting on the left of this court
@autumecross54275 жыл бұрын
On the Right sorry
@Teresia125 жыл бұрын
Amen honey!!!!
@Teresia125 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Smith The moron is you!!!!!!
@simbajones79165 жыл бұрын
Exactly Millie is traumatized poor baby doing the best she can with what she has been subjected to!
@average_life5 жыл бұрын
This woman is great! The attorney is trying to paint Millie as an excessive liar. The counselor says several times, "just like other kids her age", "like all parents would like"; saying that Millie's behavior is normal! Especially for a poor child that has gone through all she has... This defense attorney is a beast, aggressively trying to find anything shitty she can!
@sarachemelowski39045 жыл бұрын
Even if the kid WAS a liar?? What does that have to do with her client murdering her sister?? You know? It's not like Millie was the one abusing herself, and Laila. Mull is sickening.
@sarachemelowski39045 жыл бұрын
@Ingrid Colello Exactly. This child has too many tell tale signs of PTSD to be lying about her sister's death or their abuse. Then them going to trial, and saying oh, well Millie's a liar so just discredit her because EVERYONE'S pancreas just splits in two from compressions to the CHEST. Bull. That happened over an extenuating period of time, and I bet that was the last kick or knee or blow that babies body could take, and she finally succumbed to her injuries. That little girl isn't a liar, they are just monsters, and are still trying to keep up with this fantasy world that Jennifer had created for herself, and the image that this woman claimed was so typical of children in foster care. Only it takes a sociopathic or psychotic personality to harm or destroy something/someone smaller, and defenseless. I'd imagine Jennifer was a bully as a child, and teenager too. I have a two yr daughter, and my little boy will be 9 on Saturday. They are allowed to be children, and I teach them right from wrong without violence. And I've been kicked in the face, slapped, you know the typical things kids try to get away with. I've just said oh, no. You do nice, mama, and show them how. Kids dont come with manuals, no but I learned on my OWN. She had resources, and there's no excuse.
@sarachemelowski39045 жыл бұрын
@Ingrid Colello Millie's adopted mother had said she called Millie a liar throughout the trial when she was in fact the one who taught Millie to lie in the first place. Isnt that some sick s-h-i-@? And I believe very strongly that it's TRUE. Babies brains are like sponges at that age.. so sad Ms. Ingrid. I'm glad she got life plus 40 yrs. She deserved it!
@dmnur34 жыл бұрын
@@sarachemelowski3904 Agree 100%. I was thinking the same exact thing
@sarachemelowski39044 жыл бұрын
@@dmnur3 this trial really had me angry, but in tears a lot too. These babies had suffered for no reason other than Jennifer Rosenbaum is a sick, arrogant, and entitled bitch. SO entitled, and arrogant she thought she could just beat a 3 yr old to death, and get away with it. I don't want to spoil the verdict but, she thought wrong.
@catlady10845 жыл бұрын
Both of those girls went through hell. I cannot imagine how scared they both must have been going from house to house, 7 times. Then to end up with these monsters.
@rebeccap8315 жыл бұрын
My heart broke when I heard 7 times. My God!! I can’t help to be so upset with the entire justice system. There is so many women that can’t have children and would do anything to have a child. First of all they look like kids. Even a friend that testified showed no empathy. Why would they be allowed to be foster parents. The system has failed us. I can imagine more cases that are out there that are not shown to us.
@klarastern55974 жыл бұрын
this happens to soooooo many children in the US... the system is broken af and there is A LOT of abuse... :(
@antoinettesera93904 жыл бұрын
7 times. Poor children God help her
@lalocasagittarius66534 жыл бұрын
That's what pisses me off !! These poor babies were going from house to house and now that shit hits the fan and one of the kids are dead the mom and the grandma wants to come out and cry and all this BS!!!!!
@wandabailey78704 жыл бұрын
@@lalocasagittarius6653 Sorry , but have absolutely no understanding , sympathy nor any empathy for any of the so called,immediate blood family,members of these little,defenseless now lost souls -- especially that of their biological, mother and their father . Sorry , but the mother's actiions / non actions are what led,up to all this which is now ocvurring within the court syatem . Yes , the foster family were the overall end to their little precious souls being forever lost -- especially that of the little 2 yr old Laila . But had the mother been a bit more concerned about / for her actions / non actions and,the,path / route she continued to choose for her self at that time in her life -- then just maybe,none of this would have occurred for any of those whom had been directly / indirectly involved in the lives of the two sisters .
@DianeSturlinXX5 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness that defense attorney is absolutely incompetent or drunk quite possibly both
@rebeccaaikey49375 жыл бұрын
diane sturlin best part is that I know she loses!
@terradonahue77294 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@LCee74 жыл бұрын
Seriously! Quite possibly too many benzos with her coffee. She completely sucks.
@fabiolaescamillagarcia80374 жыл бұрын
Exactly my opinion about her.
@bernieob95774 жыл бұрын
Yes incompetent sounds like she is under the influence.
@pagevaughn91944 жыл бұрын
Millie was just a baby just like her sister, who was viciously tortured. Millie is only trying to remember bits and pieces her little brain will let her remember. Sometimes you mind will not let you remember all it for self preservation. So she just makes up what feels good. As any child would. This court did shameful deeds to this poor little girls. Thank goodness they are found guilty!!
@katandraroney62453 жыл бұрын
Right that was heartbreaking..the fact remains that, that baby girl got silent every time they asked about Jennifer or whatever her name is..anyway it spoke volume..it showed she was scared to speak about it nor did she want to remember.."I Don't Remember"..stick in my head because at the end of the day she didn't want to remember nor tell a lie🤷♀️Facts..and it's so sad..
@LunnaJannah3 жыл бұрын
Spot on. Even more so a child
@technicolorrose55495 жыл бұрын
Bless that little girl's heart..to say at the age of seven that she didn't want to ride her bike out in her driveway anymore "because there are good and bad people in this world and I can't tell the difference".....that's a pretty deep comment for a little girl. I hope she gets through this ok. ❤️Much love to you Millie-Boo and also to her adoptive family....the courage to take on the challenge yet immensely rewarding experience of a little girl that's been through such a hard life so far is admirable. Best of luck to you all moving forward🦋(there's a butterfly for you Millie).
@crmcrm96232 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe that bio grandmother would not have taken those girls in, even if it meant grandma moving. She saw the sheer fear on poor little Laila's face when it was time to go back to Rosenbaums house. What a shame, so heart breaking.😢😖😥
@angmoulton85282 жыл бұрын
@@crmcrm9623 she admits she tried they wouldn't give her back to her and she couldn't care for Leila I suggest listening to the whole trial
@angmoulton85282 жыл бұрын
Took me two weeks
@angmoulton85282 жыл бұрын
However if you look up Peggy Banks you will see her part and she explains all of it
@marshapieroni6677 Жыл бұрын
I want to have a tee shirt with millie's wise words on it. Very deep sentiment from a child that age and so true
@Katwoman43185 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace Laila Daniel.
@bernieob95774 жыл бұрын
🙏 bless the little angel, my heart is broken listen to this .that Defence attorney is disgusting
@irmapayan93503 жыл бұрын
RIP Laila Marie Daniel.
@itswhatyoumakeit69505 жыл бұрын
Millie will reach GREATNESS in her lifetime, bless her heart, the new mom is a decent, protective mom and I was so glad to see her testimony!
@latashahoward39435 жыл бұрын
Creative Revival Well the birth Mother couldn't be bothered to even visit her babies but could find the time to lay on her back and get pregnant multiple times after her children were removed only to have those children taken away as well. Sorry, the egg donor could careless about reunification if she wasn't even worried about scheduled visitation.
@amandaburnham81243 жыл бұрын
@Queen Grady she's talking about the mother who actually adopted her not the one who fostered here
@weeannie4955 жыл бұрын
God bless Millie 🙏 she’s a small child, traumatised, abused, sent from pillar to post with strangers, rejected, vulnerable and grieving. Holy Mother lying please give this child a break. She needs professionals that are the best of the best for this not just a professional
@hawtee16195 жыл бұрын
32:35 OMG Milie!! I don't know you, but your make my heart soar. You are so wise at such a young age. Stay strong! RIP Laila
@ceceliajarvis11383 жыл бұрын
That is so heartbreaking and prophetic...God bless that sweet girl!
@myaccount53625 жыл бұрын
So profound! There are good and bad people in the world and I can’t tell the difference!
@StrawberryFields4ever653 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine what it was like to realize this concept as a 5-,7yr old?
@AdrianaHernandez-zr9gd5 жыл бұрын
How heartbreaking Millie baby suffering from PTSD, shes alot more braver than I was and am now even at 43 years old, my coping is def to avoid talking or even remembering my childhood abuse so much so that I don't even remember the times I wasnt being abused.
@foreverblessed80845 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry that you had a bad childhood ☹️ .
@aboultbee13 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry. Peace be with you.
@sarachemelowski39045 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure it occurred to anyone that maybe this child is just scared shitless to voice her opinions about anything.. even about something stupid whether which toothpaste she likes or not. I think I would be afraid to be truthful too if I was Millie. These poor babies. I hadn't even finished watching the testimony, and I KNEW that was WHY she was probably lying.. Also the fact that Jennifer helped teach her at the age of 4 didnt help matters either. 🤬
@JanelsJoint4 жыл бұрын
Exactly that's what this tells me too is that poor millie is scared on saying the wrong things cuz evil Jennifer probably punished her if she didnt do or say what she wanted her to do....it definitely shows she was abused
@suegoulding13413 жыл бұрын
Goodness if I went through what Millie's been through watching her baby sister constantly being beaten and crying in agony and now knows she was murdered... and the beatings she also has suffered. I also would fantasize stories just to forget. Adopted Mum please always love her and be patient! You'll be rewarded tenfold by her love. RIP baby Laila 🙏
@snowy_cookiem60144 жыл бұрын
Broke my heart when she said what Millie said about "good and bad people and not being able to tell the difference" God bless little Millie.
@vickiekasafirek90965 жыл бұрын
Please get to closing arguments this is pointless bs. They are guilty and I'm sick of all the lies and this defense attorneys evil ways. You'd think this trial was about Millie and Mrs.Banks as much as their names are brought up. Excuse me but this is about Laila the poor little angel that was tortured, abused and killed by the 2 monsters at the defense table.
@barbaramoorehead68045 жыл бұрын
vickie kasafirek Very well worded & so true!!
@Hurricaneintheroom5 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. I think the defense's strategy is to put the bio family on trial to make them look like people who would do this to a child.
@CECICEO-cz9ho5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's over NOW.
@ClaireWill71uk4 жыл бұрын
How can anyone call a child victim with any kind of abuse a liar, as part of her character... this is abhorrent behaviours by Defense. Shame on them all. She’s suffered just impose death penalty for both foster monsters.
@Beautyjoy985 жыл бұрын
I pray for millie she is in a great foster home adopted and loved unconditional the rest of her life. She is a victim but I hope she one day realizes she's a survivor and is so strong and capable of doing whatever she sets her heart and mind to. Bless her.
@doggiestylepetresort4 жыл бұрын
My father was arrested when I was 8 months old. The police entered like SWAT and when my parents wouldn’t answer the door they literally beat our door down. I remember the sounds. I remember my dad holding me and saying “it’s okay baby. Let’s be quiet” and I screamed my head off. I remember that part very vividly! I do not remember his actual arrest though it’s like I blocked that part. The next thing I remember is my mom sitting in the kitchen floor and all the cabinets were emptied on the floor, Rice, Noodles, Flour, Sugar etc all over the floor! My mom kept our home spotless and they had destroyed it. Some family members have said I was to young to remember but I def remember. No one even talked about it and my dad was gone pretty much from the time I was 8 months until I was 13 years old. I know what I remember. Millie can def remember things! No doubt in my mind she is telling the truth. The “Rothroaches” or whatever their names are make me sick and they probably put fear in Millie so she wouldn’t talk so she is scared!
@Trogdor13653 жыл бұрын
There are multiple ways to form long term memory. The main way is through the hippocampus, which doesn't fully form until around 4-5 years old (the last part of the brain to develop and the first to deteriorate). The hippocampus mainly helps to store episodic memory (events or "episodes" in your life, like recalling your first day of high school or that night out with your friends) and learning facts (studying for school). It's not stored *in* the hippocampus, rather the hippocampus takes information from short term memory, breaks it up, and puts it into different parts of the brain (which is why older people can still remember their youth in detail, but may not remember thing that happened yesterday). The amygdala, on the other hand, can store emotional memory, pretty much from birth. So, very emotional or traumatic events *can* be remembered early on as choppy memories that are difficult to get rid of or control (think PTSD). So, if you found that event especially disruptive, emotional, or scary, you certainly *could* have remembered it. There's other types of memory, such as procedural memory (like driving a car and riding a bike) that happens in other parts of the brain, but it's not really important to your experience or this case. Something that *is* important to note in millie's case: many things can effect memory. Memories can be altered every time they are recalled, and the altered memory is very real to that person. So, jennifer could have altered millie's memories with repetition. Additionally, during trauma or episodes of stress or fear, the body releases cortisol. Evolutionarily, cortisol is a hormone meant for short term stress (run! We're being chased by a bear!) which helps blood to be redirected away from things like the digestive system and towards the muscles. It was not meant for long term stress, such as that occurs in child abuse. Cortisol is damaging to brain tissue over long periods. So, it could have prevented millie from storing information about her and her sister's abuse, and made her recall poor. She's not lying, she's telling the truth to the best of her ability. Her inability to recall correctly is almost a sign of long term stress and abuse. Her physical condition is confirmation.
@mylesastinnette62082 жыл бұрын
Wow, that’s interesting. I wish my memory would take me back that far. My mom died when I was 3 and I don’t remember at all about her. I only know what other people who knew my beautiful mom have told me. I have strained by brain trying o remember something, her look, laugh, voice,smile, anything but remember nothing. So at 3 months to remember something yourself is amazing.
@sarahgrant86774 жыл бұрын
What has a child Lieing got to do with her sister been batterd to death
@kiritolifeinacoma73103 жыл бұрын
I think the defense strategy is to discredit Millie because, other then the 2 defendants, Millie was the only other person there where they murdered her sister. I'm heartbroken 💔 😞 😔 😪 😢 behind this.
@AleaIactaEst20093 жыл бұрын
Millie was a witness for the prosecution and her evidence was a part of the larger body of evidence which exposed/corroborated the ongoing abuse. The evidence against the defendants was overwhelming and so the defence strategy, as ineffective as it was, relies almost solely upon creating an element of doubt in the jury's mind by targetting a witness' credibility. That is their one tactic repeated over and over, but it was always incredibly weak. They will target any minutiae here trying to make this witness say "Millie lied about thing x" no matter what x was, to try to undermine her credibility. However, the prosecution is there to counterbalance this and everyone, including the jury thankfully, saw there was no substance to any of the defence's tactics. Truly a heartbreaking case.
@kiritolifeinacoma73103 жыл бұрын
@@AleaIactaEst2009 exactly. This poor may need therapy for the rest of her life.
@AleaIactaEst20093 жыл бұрын
@@kiritolifeinacoma7310 I can only wish her the very best. It is commented on how positive a person she naturally is, so there is hope she finds the strength to overcome, as well as she can, the ordeal that will be with her and others for life. She needs a stable family around her, to regain trust in those who earn it, and I hope her current foster parents can support her the way she needs and she can stay with them if they do.
@kiritolifeinacoma73103 жыл бұрын
@@AleaIactaEst2009 I pray the same for her. Our prayers will intercede on her behalf.
@pamelamartin60155 жыл бұрын
Don't know how I got here. Don't know any of the storey. But for 26 mins I thought they were talking about a 14 or 15 year old girl. How can a first graders words and actions be on the court stand like this? She is in first! Grade! oh and she might testify! More trauma to prove someone is innocent?
@itswhatyoumakeit69505 жыл бұрын
'There are bad and good people in this world and I can't tell the difference' UTTERLY SAD BUD TRUE
@germainewright73485 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking 😣
@Judy.Gibbs15 жыл бұрын
Profound statement from such a small child but she has been through so much. Poor baby.
@michelleglover95435 жыл бұрын
That brought me to tears. That poor child.
@debrah89505 жыл бұрын
I have no words to say ,what could I possibly add. Only that I do agree with all of you.
@rebeccamcinroy60424 жыл бұрын
Omg those girls had 8 different homes at the age of 2 to 3 years old oh those poor girl,s
@tats58804 жыл бұрын
Un fu..ing believable.
@jennbass12775 жыл бұрын
This child has been through so much 😢the defense attorney is a disgusting person
@juliek92485 жыл бұрын
I don't know how she can sleep at night.
@alicemorton91455 жыл бұрын
Jenn Bass The defence woman needs to be charged with child abuse of Millie! Also needs to be removed from the “Bar”!
@klarastern55974 жыл бұрын
I don't like it either... one bit.. BUT someone HAS to do that job... otherwise the justice system would fail...
@rationallyruby3 жыл бұрын
@@alicemorton9145 what? It’s her job!!!!
@alicemorton91453 жыл бұрын
@Connie Hughes I guess the woman wound me up😢🙏
@blacknosugarnocream4 жыл бұрын
The saddest part of this saga has yet to happen. If Millie is not provided the continued treatment and nurturing she needs as she ages, by her teens or in her twenties, her trauma will manifest itself in outrageous behaviors, or self-sabotage. By then very few people will care about why she does those things. They will discard her and discount her experiences. No more love and well wishes from strangers on the internet.
@lowktrk55593 жыл бұрын
yep. bad coping skills will foster thru self medicating to addiction or abusive relationships. all the thoughts and prayers will go out the window and it will be "i dont feel bad for addicts they made the choice" or "why didnt she just leave him when he beat her the first time?"
@jmcoffeecat73 жыл бұрын
This. Once you hit you're late teens you already start losing the concern and care of others. As an adult, literally no one will care anymore and if you don't have the skills, money, or mental capacity to get help for your trauma you will most likely cope in very negative ways and suffer even more. It really is so important to get kids help as soon as possible.
@elaine21bok2 жыл бұрын
If our societies around the world continue on the same path, I'm afraid you all are so right. 😔
@candee27462 жыл бұрын
I have faith that Millie’s mother, Amanda will do everything she can to continue Millie’s therapy and support her every step of the way. I’m so glad she’s found a loving home.
@Trogdor13653 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad millie has been adopted and will finally have stability. *Seven* placements in 5 years of life?! I'm surprised she didn't have extreme learning and behavioral issues.
@actuallyisaidashley.2 жыл бұрын
These poor babies would get in trouble for falling asleep in the car. That is just agonizing to hear. I can't imagine the anxiety of a 2 year old that is worrying they might fall asleep on a car ride and wake up getting physically or mentally abused for it. That statement killed me. The car ride is relaxing for many children. My babies fall asleep easiest in the car.
@poppyfield16192 жыл бұрын
Falling asleep on a journey is normal!! The rhythmic motion lulls us and makes us sleepy. As a passenger in a car I can hardly keep my eyes open! Those poor little girls!! What a horrible pressure to put on children. That monstrous couple really were hell bent on turning, probably the most comforting thing (falling asleep in the car) the girls felt, into one of fear and terror. My God. Shame on them!!!!!
@yolandawilson98525 жыл бұрын
The defense attorney's voice and demeanor most likely turned the jury off. She is too aggressive and reaches or tries to throw blame where it shouldn't be. Yes, this is her job to do so but the way she defended her clients is horrible. If I were a juror I would have been disgusted by her and because of that some jurors might give a guilty verdict just because of the lawyer. Yes I know these 2 despicable people are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. They tried to cover up the abuse and it didn't work. R.I.P. baby girl, you're with the Angel's now. Look out for your big and little sisters. So heartbreaking.
@eyerishroses2 жыл бұрын
I could never be a defense attorney. Especially for baby murders, actually people who abuse children.
@juliaavers44032 жыл бұрын
I feel for Millie. They are negating her way of processing the horrific abuse of her and her sister. I am 53 and still can't process the trauma of my life. As soon as I start to bring up something I get anxious and tearful and I just can't do it. It's been an ongoing abuse and trauma situations with different people my whole life. I can't imagine how this poor child is trying to cope at such a young age and not too terribly long after her trauma. Who is it for them to say she is not being truthful. Why do adults get to judge what they think she is embellishing. They need to validate what she tells them so she feels believed, safe and loved so she will talk about it more and heal.
@daniellea423 жыл бұрын
If I had been the therapist, and Millie had said what she said about good and bad people being in this world; I would have cried...idk how she held it together. That poor poor baby.
@itswhatyoumakeit69505 жыл бұрын
She touched a backpack, and this got her in 'trouble' lol, ok.
@karakarabobara3 жыл бұрын
"There are good and bad people in this world...and i can't tell the difference." Me either Millie
@michellegomez91143 жыл бұрын
The defense needs to be fired.
@shadowsagainstthewind78135 жыл бұрын
She is trying to cause doubt in Millies testimony ....
@RC03074 жыл бұрын
Yep, but she couldn’t show doubt when it came to the X-rays that showed all the injuries caused by abuse. This case is so sad. I wish these girls could have been placed in a good home with love and compassion. It sounds like Millie has that now. Laila is in heaven and definitely has love and peace. But it years my heart out to know what she endured. Why wasn’t there red flags to get them removed from that he’ll house?! 😢
@PerpetualLoner5 жыл бұрын
The attorneys confidence is just terrible. Like she had no idea what she was doing up there
@itswhatyoumakeit69505 жыл бұрын
I know, if it wasn't so pathetic it'd be funny!
@childofthemosthighyah81455 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this is her 1st serious case. She's rude, difficult to understand wtf she's asking, she's stuttering. I mean is she nervous? Damn she's annoying. I understand ppl have a right to lawyer to defend them but this lady is doing a horrible job!
@penw5 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not she's apparently got a lot of awful people acquitted. I think she had a tougher case than she thought she'd have.
@stacyramirez54594 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use her for anything! What a nut case
@SydneyBooksMusic5 жыл бұрын
Possibly the most profound thing I’ve heard in a long time. Someone is going to write a book entirely around that quotation.
@barbaradavis86862 жыл бұрын
I feel for the little girl in my childhood days I was abused by my dad he almost killed me and I was molested by 10 men and most of them were family and his friends I left home at 15 been married twice and abused
@joankamp45135 жыл бұрын
What in the world are all these questions about Millie supposed to prove or disprove in regard to the trial. Sounds like a normal kid to me.
@chetyoubetya85654 жыл бұрын
That poor girl was moved around 8 times???under 8 yrs old
@terriekurney65484 жыл бұрын
I would not allow my grandkids to be placed in a foster home.
@crmcrm96232 жыл бұрын
💯👏👍
@GreerSquadProductions3 жыл бұрын
A child lying to an abusive parent about brushing her teeth or getting trouble in school so that she does not get her OWN BEATING does not make that child a liar. It makes her smart! She was trying to avoid getting abused how hard is it for that defense attorney to understand?.
@OCDTraci3 жыл бұрын
Love how the defense brought this witness in on their side and instead, she did wonders for the prosecution, lol
@nevakendrick11645 жыл бұрын
Millie went to a private school alright! Jennifer's Abuse & Kill Hidden School!
@rselby37975 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that they make such an issue on these little girls telling what they call lies...all kids say stuff like...yes I brushed my teeth or picked up my toys and so on...Big deal. My little girl did that as young as 3 and she really didn't know what she was saying. She was only 3 or even 4 or 5. Give me a break. I did that when I was little and my mom never punished me for this. STUPID!
@shaynelahmed63235 жыл бұрын
I know it's painful. But the prosecution quickly put it in perspective, and this witness benefitted the prosecution case!
@autumecross54275 жыл бұрын
PTSD!!!
@susandruce10643 жыл бұрын
no matter how much the defense tries to make millie out to be a liar..her poor sisters body tells the truth of what that evil foster parents did to that little girls body
@pommiebears3 жыл бұрын
I remember telling my classmates that my dad was superman. He was big, tall, with dark hair, and I loved my daddy so much....I lied and said he was superman. ALL kids lie at times. We grow out of it....most of us.
@douglasmacomber68813 жыл бұрын
After watching the medical examiner testimony? I was physically ill literally! I am so angry what people do to children? Abusing children should be a capital punishment of the death penalty
@ambercole78525 жыл бұрын
Is this defense attorney not terrible to listen to?!?! My gosh the stuttering and voice, I can barely make it through
@melodydelgado52113 жыл бұрын
That was murder, no other word for it.
@hhhh.g77663 жыл бұрын
That defence attorney better be disbarred after this trial! What a disgrace blaming a little baby (Millie) for lying! There is no evidence of her lying! SHE’S A BABY who went through hell! She should see her date in court!
@johnandevefoster38162 жыл бұрын
so the "new mother" some how knows that Millie's PAST MEMORIES are not true. ummmmmm... Was she there? look it doesn't matter how many times my two year old hurts herself in the course of learning how to navigate thru her precious day. I still know how every bruise came to be. If she hits her head on the table , the bump is on her forehead. what I am trying to say is, falling down or bumping the head , or even getting knocked down by a family pet IT DOESNT make a baby have broken legs ,arms, and internal organs split in two. Or bruises all up and down her back! if Jennifer ever had a child in her care that she cared about she would know you just can't make up "stories " about how all these bruises and breaks happened. BECAUSE THOSE KIND DO NOT HAPPEN when a baby hurts THEMSELVES ! another thing... bruising can come up very quickly but most of the time it comes up later after the ouchy happened. there is no way that she got bruised all up and down her back when she was "chocking" THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED Jennifer had been beating that baby for some time. with each beating she gave she got worse. Jennifer broke her little arm as she dragged her up and down those stairs by it. She broke her leg in the same manner. She beat that baby by punching her little body. bursting her internal organs. Laila was dying slowly. and her death had nothing to do with chocking. when she died it just happened to be around dinner time. The fireman had it right when he thought to himself after seeing this babies back. Poor little girl..at least now she is out of her horrible situation He knew right when he saw her body that she was an abused child. I mean BABY
@dottiewest3854 жыл бұрын
Does no one remember that Millie witnessed her baby sister getting murdered by Jennifer? She probably was worried about getting murdered as well. Don’t they do background checks on potential foster parents? How did this happen?!!!
@ErK613 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I read that Jennifer had a decent reputation in city- she held a reputable job and had ties w people involved w placing foster children
@518corky3 жыл бұрын
The baby still died, with new and old injuries, the broken leg she claimed was from gymnastics was not from gymnastics...weather millie was told something or not doesn't mean shit. Jennifer still caused the death of that child and Joseph did nothing about it. End of story
@birdieorourke55073 жыл бұрын
To listen to that bitch of a therapist trying to paint that child in a bad light. Millie told a child about the death of her sister. She didn't trust adults would you blame her. The dumb teachers also at the school trying to paint her in a bad light.The child was abused traumatised, saw her sister been abused, beat, killed and was herself a victim.No one helped her as far as I can see.Professionals my hat, trying to tell us about a child lying not being appropriate. Children dont lie as a rule even recalling the day her sister died she got teary and sullen.Poor Carter she is still afraid of the monsters who abused her and killed her sister.
@sandrahernandez28474 жыл бұрын
Every child is different and the brain is still a mystery how it works. It took me about 20+ year to find out my nightmares were actually scenes from me being touched. I’m now 42 and the nightmares are frequently when I go through other stress
@Walklikeaduck1114 жыл бұрын
Thats so sad. Hope you're getting help
@sandrahernandez28474 жыл бұрын
@@Walklikeaduck111 I been since I was 17yrs old.
@sydludwig18263 жыл бұрын
Boy, that last line the witness said about Millie saying that they're good and bad people and she can't tell the difference brought tears to my eyes.
@_kimiadventures3 жыл бұрын
“There a bad and good people in the world & I can’t tell the difference” -Millie
@RaisingKittens5 жыл бұрын
Listening to this defense attorney try to formulate questions is brutal. She has no flow, no organization & no format. I doubt I can watch much more.
@tcarp84993 жыл бұрын
I just caught up on this case and I've got to say and I rarely comment due to others comments completely reflect my feelings on matters. However- I thank God for the prosecution in this case. No child, no person, no animal PERIOD ever deserves neglect/abuse of Any degree. As I watched and listened to defense attorney- I honestly cannot believe Any court/judge would allow that woman to defend this let alone Any case. How malignant to smear Any child. You reap what you sow. I'd hate to be her.
@chantalzorzi96744 жыл бұрын
But...one question...did the defense prepare??? She keeps saying that Mille lied so that whatever that little girl says is not belived!!!
@Scratchingforcash3 жыл бұрын
They literally beat this little girl to death. R.I.P. little Angel 👼 I am so heartbroken for this family
@tsommers32844 жыл бұрын
This defense attorney makes me sick to my stomach!!
@pommiebears3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Millie was telling fibs because reality was too hard to live with. Maybe she would lie to cover up things she couldn’t cope with. Maybe she didn’t like to clean her room because it traumatised her. Either way, Millie hasn’t done anything wrong. She’s 7yrs old, and suffering from huge losses.
@godallowsuturns6794 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry Millie, none of us can tell it either😢❤️
@milika91672 жыл бұрын
Millie needs consistent....continuous restoration therspy programs......she has started off on a terribly distorted foundation......I pray she grows up "sane" because these are the children that grow up to become such dysfuntional adults. No child should have to go through any of this! And we are only privy to these "wicked occurrences " because her sister died....now can you imagine the thousands of other children going through these kinds of things and their stories will never be heard ??!!
@1Vapersianprincess5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why on goddess green earth would get up on the stand and say such things. I'm sorry but this is beyond sick. That babygirl has gone threw more in her little life than most. She will grow up probably blame herself for not stopping it or blames herself for being around. Ppl will do anything and everything to that $$$$ sad just sad
@disgruntledkitten91273 жыл бұрын
That sweet baby was traumatised and displaying all the hallmarks of a child coping through trauma. How is this a defence, picking out reactions from a small child who has lost her baby sister, scumbag move from a drowning defence.
@raetaerae78465 жыл бұрын
This poor witness she didnt want to be there when the defence attorney was talking to her trying to get her notes twisted it really upset her and when the prosecutor took over I could feel the relief this whole story is sad
@Trogdor13653 жыл бұрын
Of course she occasionally lies. Everyone does, but children who have experience physical violence from angry adults will *certainly* be afraid to make adults angry and will lie to avoid trouble.
@looking4things6693 жыл бұрын
Is it me or is this Defense Attorney seem off in some way? Perhaps, it's time to put away her law degree and retire.
@Roseredeemed2 жыл бұрын
If a child doesn’t feel safe and secure they learn very early to “lie” to minimize abuse both emotionally & physically.
@lesliemashmann793 жыл бұрын
Good grief - is Millie on trial here for being a liar? She is a very traumatized child, bounced around foster care with her sibling ending up dead. She couldn't truat anyone - so she will dream up her better life.
@pritpaulsonia68613 жыл бұрын
millie's lies didn't murder Layla??
@stephanieearp1760 Жыл бұрын
My hope is that Millie is a happy, healthy beautiful little girl who's thriving !!!Oh wait, that's exactly what she's doing. R.I.P Baby Laila. You will never be forgotten.
@cassaroll423 жыл бұрын
Wow the defense attorney is a train wreck... she sounds like she has dementia, and she is incoherent at times
@elenaceleste9834 жыл бұрын
I am so confused from defense questionings- she's getting in my nerves!!!!
@heatherfears18004 жыл бұрын
Had to have been told???? Not an eye witness to her own sister's reality???
@yorbesteeumessee85375 жыл бұрын
How the fu#* these people get license, degrees, & even permission to do these serious jobs that they know NOTHING ABOUT esp ("in this specific case") I hate it when they say that😡 A baby is dead and they act like they dont care! WTF?😪 🙏
@darkdoesyt90023 жыл бұрын
This defense attorney makes my blood boil
@beachgirl4683 жыл бұрын
Is this a defense witness? And the defense atty didn't even know this witness wasn't a Dr.?
@FunkyMonkeyInvestigations4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering why In the hell millie is even on trial here! She was abused herself and acting out from being passed around like a baton, lack of stability in home life! This is angering! The damn adults should be on trial, not the issues of this child survivor.
@StrawberryFields4ever653 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a gaggle of hens dissecting a 6-7yr old. It's disgusting!!! This poor 7yr old orphan has PTSD and these people are nit-picking her every move. What 7yr old could hold up under their microscopic examination???
@topaz385 жыл бұрын
This defense attorney is making a complete fool of herself and I am NOT impressed with this uneducated witness at all! Meddling in business outside of her profession and then getting up and testifying about her OPINION. This only confirms that most social workers do more harm than good. Just my opinion ... RIP to this precious child 💔
@fauxmanchu80945 жыл бұрын
L Palmer Social workers -- they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. You must have an impressive list of tertiary credentials, because according to you the professionals testifying in this case are either no good or up to no good. Only in 'Merikka, the land of snowflakes. 🙄🙄🙄
@mandical81404 жыл бұрын
@@fauxmanchu8094 why are you so offended? Theres numerous comments like this. Why are you targeting this particular comment??
@sharonneethling22434 жыл бұрын
This is the first time that I know about this case. So i want to ask this lawyer wat the hell has this got to with the death of her sister. Those dam people killed her sister. That's it and I am so so glad that they got life. Father please watch over Nellie and her new mom and keep them safe. Amen.
@Carol-ul3bh5 жыл бұрын
As though the testimony of all of state witnesses and the child's body weren't enough?? This should have been over days ago! Anyone keeping count of how many defense witnesses there have been so far? UGH!
@fauxmanchu80945 жыл бұрын
Carol You should become an activist and advocate for trials with no defense lawyers, only prosecutors. 😂😂😂
@burglar423 жыл бұрын
Millie needs love😢😢😢
@donnaparmer5434 Жыл бұрын
That f*#@ing attorney acts like little Laila would still be alive if Millie didn't lie
@cradames2 жыл бұрын
There is a special place in he'll for these defense attorneys. I get giving your defendants the best defense BUT some of the things they did was mean and hurt the defense. Like allowing that beast evil woman to change seats when Millie was testifying do they not see how bad that made them look because everyone knew exactly what and why she did that. How they treated Tessa and then again Millie to try to paint this traumatized girl as a crazy liar. Only thing they did was hurt themselves and I'm glad. I hope and pray they are both getting the proper treatment in prison