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The rotation speed controllers are one directional. Stress comes in one side and the speed is controlled on the other side. If you try to merge two systems the way you did, stress maker -> speed controller -> speed controller -> stress maker, the speed controller does not know which direction to control the speed and breaks.

The biggest tip i can give to a new Create user is by far that gearboxes are you best friend ! They can invert the rotation the shafts. They are so usefull and you should basically always have them when you build anything. Also you can use Belts to transfer rotation instead of using lots of shafts. It will only cost 1 belt instead of 16 shafts

I like how Ilmango is still worrying about his diet and yet already making plans for a spawn perimeter. Classic engineer

At this point I think mango is trolling us using the gearshift in place of a gearbox

I know these episodes are prerecorded, but just in case and for everyone in the comments: The reason combining the rotation sources didn’t work is because the rotation speed controllers don’t know which side to pull the original speed, and which side to control the speed. You have to make sure you keep the rotation generation on one side of the controller, if it’s on both, the controller doesn’t know which to pull from and breaks.

Rotation speed controllers can actually be driven from either side, but not both at once! This is why you couldnt combine both of the systems.

It’s so funny that ilmango with all his knowledge of vanilla Minecraft mechanics is such a Create mod newbie! He’s doing things in such inefficient ways

I love how terra firma craft uses different colors of sand to give you a way to get normally unobtainable made up items like glowstone and redstone

Hey mango! Just a tip if you wanna save on shafts and gearboxes: you can use belts to transfer rotation speed with a LOT less shafts, and you can, most of the time, replace a few gearboxes with normal gears and/or belts

Use a gear box if you just want to change direction. No need to power that.

The gearbox also reverses rotation of the opposite side. The shift is more for things like pistons that work both ways with a lever flip

I like how instead of making another windmill, ilmango merged multiple ones into a windmill monster

A tip for long distance transfer of rotation... If shafts are expensive, belts could be a nice replacement. They also transfer rotation.

A clean way to use the big and little cogs is to utilize right clicking a casing on them. If you do you can have 2 cogs "share" a shaft but be spinning opposite directions. So you could chain many sets of cogs in a 2×2× # of cogs sets area

I know these are all pre-recorded, but did you know that the water wheel was updated in .5.1 to have a constant level of speed/SU? Hopefully by the time S2 arrives, you can show it off

For stone quarry you can do the classic glue +chassis+pulley+drills+chests to dig all the way to bedrock for minimal cost

The rotation speed controller changes the speed of the gear on top, you can prevent it popping off by taking the power OUT through that gear not in.

as far as I know the default stress input for the rotation speed controller is the shaft on the bottom, tbh I didn't even know it was possible to input through the cog at all, I suspect what is happening is that as soon as you connect a source of stress to the default input of the speed controller on the bamboo farm windmill bearing it starts trying to spin the cog and thus the windmill at 128rpm, treating it as a normal bearing instead of a source, hence the massive sudden increase in stress demand

I cant stop watching these. Amazing work from Mango! Keep it up!

Hey mango, One thing I would like to point out that I think you would find very useful, when working with Create items, the middle of your screen changes from the + icon to an arrow. This arrow points in the direction that the item in your hand will be placed in. For example, when looking at the Sail at 14:37 there is the arrow pointing to the left with the shadow of how the sail will be placed. If you were to have just right clicked to place it then it would have placed to the left with the sail in the same direction like the shadow block shows. Rather that using that, you tried to click on the side of the block like vanilla Minecraft which caused you to fall. It's one of the best features of create because it allows you to place cogs correctly without trying to move around weirdly, sails without having them placed in the wrong orientation, and shafts by just walking parallel to them looking at them.

I think the issue is the rotation speed controller only likes to have stress units generated on one side, almost like a worm gear.

The problem is probably caused by having stress producers on both sides of the RSC. Basically, it decides which side is set to the speed by which side the SUs are coming from. Having it on both sides confuses it.

If the redstone link is available you’ll want to make those, they’re wireless programmable redstone

yeah i think what the problem is, that the rotation speed controller can not merge two power sources. What I often do in Create is, I have one place where I generate all my su then run a line to whatever machine I want to use and set up a rotation speed controller that only powers machines and creates some sort of subnetwork. Maybe that habit comes from playing AE2 a lot x)

Other commenters have already explained why it was broken. If you want to use speed controllers in your create builds, I most often see people but them as close to their machines as possible, that way they can get exact values at their contrpations, and keep the power line from getting ugly (broken)

I know these are pre-recorded, but you will want a slow net for your power generation and multiple fast nets for power consumption and it will work. Just don't link two speed controllers. It's better to decentralize power anyway. If you want to power a simple farm, give it a separate waterwheel or windmill. For a factory you build a boiler like methodzz did and run a shaft along the ceiling to supply everything. Just look at photos of factories from the 19th century to gather inspiration.

Gearshift shouldn't be used in permanently reversing shaft direction. You can always put a gearbox across to change the direction on the output side.

Create is the best mod. You need a stock pile switch for your farms where it emits a redstone signal when a chest or vault is full and turns the clutch on the machine

I love this series so much! Can’t wait to see you having fun with the create drills 😊

Wow, its so much fun watching the redstone master figure out the create mod :D

try to change your approach to the SU network. have every generator going into a single shaft and from that single source you diverge and use speedcontrollers. as others said, connecting different networks is like using differently colored cables. (or whatever mod analogy you want)

I like the sound ilmango made as he fell xDD

In regards to when things pop off, it's either in 1 of 3 scenarios. 1.) You try to connect two systems with opposite rotations. 2.) You run your RPM over 256 on any device. 3.) You connect 2 systems with varying RPMs. (This happens rarely.) My suspicion is that #2 and #3 was your issue. Basically, The Speed controller was trying to force the system to run at 256 but you were trying to run the rest at 128. When you did, it meant that the speed controller jumped over the 256 mark because of the differing input speeds.

nice video. Love these big create networks.

I'm loving all the create stuff, keep it up please!

I have a pink sand beach near my base as well, good to know it can yield redstone. I use supports a lot in the ground e.g. when I want to flatten land that's lower. When I dug a hole 30 blocks down from my base to get to water for the water wheels, I put a few 3x3 supports in the walls. I'm also adapting your habit of placing a wooden block below the support 👍

9:05 - a simple gearbox will reverse the rotation direction on the passthrough

Thank you for making videos. You are a true joy of my life. Thank you for playing, and making sure to get out and bike. 🙇‍♂️

love this video, love this series. keep it up!☺

You dont have to crafy gearshifts you can use gearbox instead it also makes thigs rotate the other way

I love watching you problem solve

I'm a bit late, so I don't know if you figure it out later, but you don't need the gearshifts to change the rotation. Gearbox's also reverse the rotation on their opposite side. I used to do the same thing with the gearshifts until I learned that. Edit: just saw that I'm late to the party informing you of this as well.

* screams in pain looking at the windmil *

please use brass funnels for youre bamboo farm! it will make youre life so much easyer!

I know this has been mentioned before but you dont need to use a gearshift to swap direction, a gearbox does the same

Ilmango played this episode like I play mine without going to creative first.

Not sure if you're already aware but you can place sails and shafts against each other without looking at the face you want to place on in the direction of the arrow that pops up while you look at those blocks - might save a bit of work here and there since no support blocks are needed to stand on

The gearshift are way to overkill, you can also use just 1 gearboxes instead! Basically if you input clockwise rotation in one side, all the other sides will rotate anti-clockwise.

Gearbox is just better, it: Reverses rotation on opposite sides; Doesn't require any signal to controll it; Takes 1 block of space to do the job; Cheap and fancy

It is much easier to make windmill that is vertical with bearing at the bottom. It looks more modern, it uses less space, and it is easier to build.

Put a Funnel (or create equivalent) under the RSCs so if they break, they go into a chest and don't despawn :D

The windmill output doesn't actually need to have its speed changed. In my experience, you can connect a 256 rpm system directly to a windmill output in the right direction. Not sure about watermills though.

You dont need to use gearshifts to change the direction Gearboxes change the direction as well so in the corner where you added a gearshift you can just add another gearbox instead (cheaper) Love the videos!

Actually, with two cogwheels, you can change the rotation direction (like in real life).

From my expirience, having multiple energy sources and multiple contraptions plugged togheter is not good idea. Usually it goes like in this episode and nothing is adding up. Imo you should make windmill for stick logs production and another for your inhouse contraptions. It;s much easier to control and speed controller works much better too

You can also change the rotation of a shaft by using just another gearbox it's less expensive than the gear shift

If you use a mechanical saw you can craft one igneous allow into 6 shafts instead of 2 for 8

I think it would be beneficial to look into steam engine power down the line. I don't know how expensive it is in ATFC but it's such a lifesaver to have a single, very powerful and expandable power source

The create rise and shine update fixes that

I think the best way to solve that would be to have the main line go at the normal windmill speed and adding aspeedometers to the machines so that the speed controllers are only outputting rotation and not inputting it into each other

As far as i know you dont need to make a big hole for the underground farm. TFC Plants grow with artificial light too so as long as you have permanent lightsources like everlasting torches or glowstone you can just make a 1x1 hole and then dig out the farm area. Although a giant hole is pretty metal.

you actually don't need a gearshift for the crushing wheels - opposite sides of gearboxes spin in opposing directions

Hello Ilmango and Again Another ATFC Video

you can use a gearbox instead of an gearshit, it does exactly the same but without the powering system

I'm pretty sure you could have used belts to save up on shafts for the big line

If you continue to have these over-stressing issues I would suggest hiking and meditation.

I think you need to keep the power and load on separate sides of the rotational speed controller, otherwise it tries to adjust the speed on both ends, which obviously doesnt work.

Does gearbox invert rotation like IRL? Usually gearboxes are 3 "large gears" touching on the edge. The horizontal one has 2 horizontal gears, the vertical one has 2 vertical gears. Those gears in the same axis are always rotating in opposite direction. I don't know if that's the case in CrateMod too.

I think the issue was that u can't just connect both together, u need three cogwheels, one at a shaft from the windmill, one at the shaft from the bamboo farm and one that gets powered by these two. Just as u did at the windmill. One cogwheel in the middle getting powered by the surrounding cogwheels

Try using chain drives To manage your gear lines

The problem with rotation speed controller is input on the controller and output on the big cog. Since you put in reverse, it doesn’t work

You can't connect two Inputs together through an output. ALL Inputs for stress have to be merged together FIRST, THEN a SINGLE output from them can go off and power everything. You need two shaft lines going to the bamboo windmill, one directly from the other windmills to connect the two inputs, then output to the charcoal machine and a second shaft line from the end of the charcoal machine back to your base to power everything inside the base...

It's almost as thought the speed controller wouldnt work because when linking the 2 systems, and having a controller anywhere between the links, would allow the possibility that one would be changed, which would result in a speed mismatch, so therefor the game just wont allow it at all.

Nice

Sweet 😊

Would be sick to see imma go take a shot at a Greg tech based pack

I think the problem is the speed controller is in between 2 power sources, you should merge the power sources first and then use speed controller

Does anyone happen to know weiter ATFC will be updated for higher versions of the Create mod? I also can't help but think that it would have been so much more interesting and challenging if the stone generators in this pack would have to be build in the corresponding rock type. This would actually force you to travel or rather transport stuff in the late game and would pretty much require you to build a train connection to various places

You normally would input into the controller and take the output from the cogwheel (also the cog would pop then). I guess you problem may be in your usage being the other way around. Elseway no clue why that happened

I am a simple man. I see ilmango post, I click

Just got off work, perfect time for ilmango

Gearboxes also reverse the direction in line

For more stress units steam is the way to go

you don't have to use a gearshift to change the direction, gearbox works too

I could swear that when i first played create the big rule was no linking diffrent power sources. They might have fixed that because before there was no way to mix more then one windmill.

Mango YOU DONT NEED A GEAR SHIFT YOU JUST NEED A GEAR BOX TO REVERSE THE DIRECTION

I thought the series ended on episode 17 as that was the last episode on the playlist 😅

Instead of a tunnel, what if you had the torque equivalent of an aqueduct? A "torqueduct," if you will. It would be kinda neat to build a settlement around a central line of power distribution rather than having it snake around under ground.

gearbox inverts rotation direction without the need for redstone

Maybe Create mod is directional? At 19:25 when the network was working it read that you had 19,712su as expected (Home: 17,664, Farm: 2048). The shafts from home and the farm were spinning "outward" from each other from where you were standing. At 19:50, the shafts were spinning "inward" when it stopped working. And when you were looking at the network power a few seconds later, it only read that you had 2048su. It wasn't registering the other 17,664su from home. If the mod is directional then it may work again if you change the rotation direction to how it was when it was working.

While not as attractive please use belts instead of shafts over large distances. It is incredibly cheaper.

its about the direction of rotation coming into the farm, I'd suggest taking the power out of the farm counter clockwise, then gear shifting it to clockwise, then connecting it to your system.

I wonder how many of the advices the people in the comments give are actually viable now, considering how far behind the episodes are from the actual Ilmango's playthrough.

you can put a gearbox instead of the gearshift

So...windmills are tier 2 power, there's the furnace steam flywheel type engine, and then, of course...that huge boiler steam engine, that has insane stress/torque capacities. after this, maybe setting up one of those? though I suppose there's the consideration of fuel consumption, I'm guessing that's why you're staying with windmills since they do not have that need?

9:05, why not a vertical gear shaft?

Having trouble finding kelp in ATFC, is there a requirement for kelp spawning or am i unlucky? Ive searched ~10k blocks on the east coast

gearboxes also swap direction

I’ve been playing this pack and its been a blast, my only complaint is that kaolinite and graphite not having surface nuggets is really dumb