Boxing historian tells stories of Sugar Ray Robinson & Rocky Marciano fights

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8 жыл бұрын

Frank of Gleasons gym took the time to talk to me about legends like Sugar Ray Robinson & Rocky Marciano and what it was like watching them fight.

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@kevlarunderwear22
@kevlarunderwear22 4 жыл бұрын
robinson almost won the light heavyweight title (lost due to heat exhaustion), which at 175 lbs would have set him up for a showdown with Marciano, who once fought at 179 lbs early in his career. when asked about that possibility Robinson remarked "what are you trying to get me killed?"
@alfjones6377
@alfjones6377 3 жыл бұрын
Where he say that at? He was just being modest. SRR killed a man in the ring before...
@mikewhitney8615
@mikewhitney8615 3 жыл бұрын
@@alfjones6377 Rocky almost killed a HEAVYWEIGHT.
@dirtyjew1974
@dirtyjew1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikewhitney8615 carmine vingo is the guy rocky nearly killed, he was in a coma for a while and partially paralyzed for the rest of his life and that fight ended his career
@pantelisraptis7685
@pantelisraptis7685 2 жыл бұрын
and when he was not in his prime years
@frankpaya690
@frankpaya690 Жыл бұрын
@@pantelisraptis7685 Carmine was in his prime years when he took the beating from Marciano.
@jhlman1927
@jhlman1927 5 жыл бұрын
Marciano would hit the arms so their hands dropped then pick the head off, once his opposition clocked on he would go downstairs then the hands would lower so he could then alternate his strikes, a tactical genius.
@chrisevans5259
@chrisevans5259 5 жыл бұрын
Ezzard charles, Walcott, weren't bums they were hall of famers....have respect
@6lr6ak6
@6lr6ak6 4 жыл бұрын
Marciano was the best
@bobbymarsh1
@bobbymarsh1 4 жыл бұрын
Marciano was garbage and easy to Telegraph he moved like a robot if he fought a fighter such as Ali that moved he’d have issues. He wouldn’t last against a Foreman Tyson Holyfield Or Norton
@JdubzIE
@JdubzIE 3 жыл бұрын
@@6lr6ak6 how come he is never lost ?
@chuckcollins2349
@chuckcollins2349 3 жыл бұрын
@slip satch Norton had trouble with big punchers.
@MichaelRyanUK
@MichaelRyanUK 5 жыл бұрын
I am a boxing historian but you can't beat the opinions of the guys that were actually there!, awesome interview thank you.
@dantedlane2
@dantedlane2 5 жыл бұрын
What's your top 5
@bobbymarsh1
@bobbymarsh1 2 жыл бұрын
yeah and a lot of their opinions are tainted and biased as well
@leematthews5697
@leematthews5697 5 жыл бұрын
I could listen to this man's boxing experiences all night ,put his surname up show some respect man.
@jonbathurst4936
@jonbathurst4936 5 жыл бұрын
the man right. SRR was a cut above these new guys. he was a hard man on top of that, a real mean fearless fighter with no quit in him. the guy would fight with both eyes shut, these guys today quit with 0 marks on their faces
@CLINTTHECOOL
@CLINTTHECOOL 8 жыл бұрын
This is so cool to hear
@bobbymarsh1
@bobbymarsh1 5 жыл бұрын
SRR greatest fighter of all time..period
@masterzoruko9680
@masterzoruko9680 4 жыл бұрын
Lets Talk Now Tv ew, I disagree
@bobbymarsh1
@bobbymarsh1 4 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Buling and you’re suggesting who?
@masterzoruko9680
@masterzoruko9680 4 жыл бұрын
Lets Talk Now Tv Muhammad Ali
@bobbymarsh1
@bobbymarsh1 4 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Buling even Ali said SRR🤷🏾‍♂️ the 🐐
@masterzoruko9680
@masterzoruko9680 4 жыл бұрын
Lets Talk Now Tv well you said he is the greatest fighter, Ali mean by that is he is the greatest fighter in his generation. Ali is the greatest of all time in any generation.
@justingriffin2546
@justingriffin2546 2 жыл бұрын
So much heart in boxing, I love these interviews...
@frankstidham1439
@frankstidham1439 4 жыл бұрын
Willie Pep also A great fighter
@gabehcuodsuoitneterp203
@gabehcuodsuoitneterp203 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this interview happen.
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, nice interview! Thank you for uploading this!
@chrisevans5259
@chrisevans5259 4 жыл бұрын
When these guys talk, who've seen it all over the years,...you listen and respect...because he's seen the best of the best , over the last 50 + years, ...and when he says SRR and Rocky were great fighters , you can take that to the bank
@lifewithpops8466
@lifewithpops8466 4 жыл бұрын
Love to listen to boxing stories about boxing greats...
@davidgee1048
@davidgee1048 6 жыл бұрын
This guy's amazing.
@benbim540
@benbim540 5 жыл бұрын
Sugar ray Robinson is the best there has ever been. Rocky Marciano could make light heavyweight i womder how good he would have been.
@freddiereagan6705
@freddiereagan6705 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@senseichess8688
@senseichess8688 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Marciano punched harder than any heavyweight so he never bothered to drop down
@godsnobody2915
@godsnobody2915 Жыл бұрын
La Starza had to have surgery on his arms because of blood clots from Marciano's punishment. Many of today's fighters are head hunters...they don't get some of the most basic things of the game. It wasn't a coincidence that people like Bernard Hopkins and Roberto Duran could remain competitive for so long...even George Foreman, who once talked about the importance of jabbing a guy's chest in order to inhibit his jab over the duration of a fight. Rocky Marciano didn't give a damn. He'd punch your shins if he had too to slow you down. Unbelievable men...all of them! 🥊🥊
@Bill-Butcher
@Bill-Butcher 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent 👍🏻
@peterflynn6327
@peterflynn6327 8 ай бұрын
These old time Legend's have forgotten more about the fight game then today's so called expert's on tv Will ever know.
@atune2682
@atune2682 Жыл бұрын
great video!
@hmldjr
@hmldjr 5 жыл бұрын
These guys know boxing.
@2serveand2protect
@2serveand2protect 5 ай бұрын
You know that the interviews you did with these Old Timers are gonna go straight into the History's "Book of Boxing" and they will be seen for decades to come?... I still cannot understand why do You have so few subscribers?? This is one of the very Best channels dedicated to Boxing ...EVER!... Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, mate - for You &Family! All the Best! ;)
@Truschoolsports
@Truschoolsports 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate the kind words,obviously I rate my channel highly like you do. It’s all a matter of perspective and the channel grows every single year no matter what so that’s all that matters. Next year it’s gonna blow up more than ever. Thanks for watching!
@2serveand2protect
@2serveand2protect 5 ай бұрын
@@Truschoolsports OOOH - my friend! (I hope you won't have problems, with me calling you "FRIEND"!) ...but I've been watching your channel grow slowly but steadily though the years, and one thing I can GUARANTEE YOU - is that whenever it will come a point to "sum up" the History of THE Sport (the Greatest Of All!) - regardless whether it will be done through the "written word" OR by making a "visual display" of it - then YOUR INTERVIEWS, that You did by yourself and posted here - will be STUDIED BY MANY! ...I know it seems silly when I speak about them like that, BUT - with TIME - they will be a very good "testament" to how did the "Sweet Science" look in our age, and the changes of it in our time. You should be EXTREMELY proud of that! ANYWAY! Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year for You and Family! PS. Have FUN, mate! ;) :) All the Best from Poland! (Pozdrowienia z Polski!).
@thomasgrizzell9730
@thomasgrizzell9730 5 жыл бұрын
SRR was FLAWLESS 🙏.
@americanpatriot3759
@americanpatriot3759 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis (🇺🇲) and Muhammad Ali (🇺🇲) said Sugar Ray Robinson (🇺🇲) is the greatest boxer of all time
@dannygjk
@dannygjk 2 жыл бұрын
Most experts voted SRR pound for pound the greatest.
@alfredoochoajr1525
@alfredoochoajr1525 2 жыл бұрын
Marciano is italian what are you doing
@sleazyfellow
@sleazyfellow Жыл бұрын
No doubt about that. Just look at the amateur record and his list of accolades at pro, 5 time champion and he fought other ATGs as well.
@lisar3006
@lisar3006 5 жыл бұрын
I agree Ray Robinson was the all time best fighter in boxing history with 200 fights over his career.
@senseichess8688
@senseichess8688 2 жыл бұрын
Robinson ...Duran... monzon and several other old timers would knock Mayweather out
@darrenstopper1806
@darrenstopper1806 Жыл бұрын
@@senseichess8688 monzon is middleweight tho so that’s a bit much.personally I couldn’t definitively say how it would end but I’m confident SRR would b winning that fight.As for Duran,don’t know if he’d defo win but he’d b unrelenting and brutal.even if he win mayweather would have to b on it from beginning to end.And he’d know he was in for a hellish night
@senseichess8688
@senseichess8688 Жыл бұрын
@@darrenstopper1806 good points
@SouthPawGuy1977
@SouthPawGuy1977 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@anironfistedwarrior7206
@anironfistedwarrior7206 8 жыл бұрын
Do more interviews with him on current fighters
@eulissbenoit5968
@eulissbenoit5968 6 жыл бұрын
no your right sir.Robertson greatest of time
@freddiereagan6705
@freddiereagan6705 2 жыл бұрын
Marciano and Robinson is good name
@ernestitoe
@ernestitoe 3 жыл бұрын
Jack Dempsey was taller than Marciano, but weighed only a few pounds more. He destroyed Jess Willard who was six foot six and weighed two-forty-five. Not taking anything away from Rocky, just saying that the will to win can overcome disadvantages. They both had powerful wills.
@liebebile6515
@liebebile6515 2 жыл бұрын
Dempsey vs Marciano would have been an hell of a fight
@senseichess8688
@senseichess8688 2 жыл бұрын
Dempsey was a mean guy
@darrenstopper1806
@darrenstopper1806 Жыл бұрын
@@liebebile6515 how do u think that fight goes?
@frankpaya690
@frankpaya690 Жыл бұрын
They both were from different eras and exceptions to normal men, that's why they were heavyweight champions of the world.
@chrisevans5259
@chrisevans5259 6 жыл бұрын
Sugar ray Robinson the greatest BOXER off ALL-TIME, Rocky Marciano the greatest FIGHTER of ALL-TIME, ( 2 LEGENDS of the RING).
@tpsin713
@tpsin713 5 жыл бұрын
@AriusDion Rocky beat ancient hof and i mean ancient!! in their 40's so over rated.
@tpsin713
@tpsin713 5 жыл бұрын
@J W no you sir are clueless! RM not even top 5. And most agree!
@tpsin713
@tpsin713 5 жыл бұрын
@J W just the only HOF's he beat! Jersey Joe mops the floor with him 10 years prior!
@tpsin713
@tpsin713 5 жыл бұрын
@J W the mongoose had him out!! u haven't a clue!! RM is not top 5!!!! Name your list!!! HE ISN'T TOP 5!!!!! lmao ONLY 7 years!! you have no clue!! And u never laced them up!
@tpsin713
@tpsin713 5 жыл бұрын
@J W does RM beat ali, J Frazier, foreman, prime Joe Louis? he doesn't even beat Tyson or evander!! Or do u think he does!
@jennk1454
@jennk1454 2 жыл бұрын
👋 Frank
@Jahshawnw
@Jahshawnw Жыл бұрын
Ray Robinson fought 3 fights in 21 days 😂😂😂 nobody on earth now a days can do that. Two of those fights were in 8 days. Plus they were fighting 15 rounds with mittens on calling Ali the greatest is a disservice to boxing. Ali is an all time great no question but there would be no Ali without Sugar Ray literally got his style from him. Boxing as a whole should acknowledge the true G.O.A.T
@charlesoakley3429
@charlesoakley3429 3 жыл бұрын
What’s this guys name ?
@johncerminaro1067
@johncerminaro1067 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Evans calls it right...both Ray & Rocky were great KO champs...only, one looked more graceful other it..! (Marciano: 48-0)
@masterzoruko9680
@masterzoruko9680 4 жыл бұрын
John Cerminaro actually its 49-0
@chrisbennett606
@chrisbennett606 5 жыл бұрын
Ali style was unique I saw Robinson tight and his style was nothing like Ali
@oldschoolmuscle4436
@oldschoolmuscle4436 6 жыл бұрын
Marciano hands down greatest pound for pound fighter of all time.
@samwilliams9146
@samwilliams9146 6 жыл бұрын
What are you smoking................Ali, and Sugar Ray Robertson were the best. Rocky was just strong, and clumsy, unorthodox had no boxing skills, no foot work just a brawler.
@redhood3695
@redhood3695 5 жыл бұрын
@@samwilliams9146 rocky was good but ali and robinson are the best
@seangermano1563
@seangermano1563 5 жыл бұрын
Rocky had good defensive as well, it's the same low bob style Tyson used.
@misternewyorkknickerbocker4604
@misternewyorkknickerbocker4604 5 жыл бұрын
What makes Rocky Marciano the best in your opinion?
@vena180
@vena180 5 жыл бұрын
Sugar Ray Robinson & Rocky deserved to be called the best
@user-vv2fi8ow8o
@user-vv2fi8ow8o 4 жыл бұрын
Robinson KiNG
@chrisevans5259
@chrisevans5259 4 жыл бұрын
Top 5 pound-per-pound fighters ever : 1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2.Harry Greb 3. Henry Armstrong 4. Willie Pep 5. Jimmy Wilde
@lawdzoe576
@lawdzoe576 3 жыл бұрын
1. Srr 2. Greb 3. Langford 4. Armstrong 5. Ezzard Charles
@lawdzoe576
@lawdzoe576 3 жыл бұрын
I truly don't understand pep being a top 10 guy. I understand top 25.
@godfather53
@godfather53 2 жыл бұрын
@@lawdzoe576 Pep is top 10 at worst, even that is being disrespectful. He should be top 5
@Cableguy15
@Cableguy15 Жыл бұрын
Archie Moore deserves a mention
@frankpaya690
@frankpaya690 Жыл бұрын
@@Cableguy15 Archie Moore still holds the record in all weight classes for having the most knockouts.
@kisamehoshigaki8917
@kisamehoshigaki8917 2 жыл бұрын
Marciano is too danger
@atune2682
@atune2682 Жыл бұрын
imagine those guys complaining back in the day in the 50s and 60s about their arms hurting from blocking marcianos shots those were though fucking guys back then! no crie babies! crazy!
@albitcapinigro1107
@albitcapinigro1107 3 жыл бұрын
LaMotta didn't fall down cause Robinson was a feather-duster.
@darrenstopper1806
@darrenstopper1806 Жыл бұрын
Robinson never knocked lamotta down
@anthonyjohnrobshaw4326
@anthonyjohnrobshaw4326 5 жыл бұрын
Randolph Turpin also beat sugar Ray👍
@chrisbennett606
@chrisbennett606 5 жыл бұрын
Ray Robinson the best then Ali end of story
@iggyg1370
@iggyg1370 5 жыл бұрын
Ali coped Robinson boxing style.
@yankee2666
@yankee2666 5 жыл бұрын
I've always noticed that people who close their comment with "end of story," "enough said," and "just sayin'," are ignorant morons.
@hmldjr
@hmldjr 5 жыл бұрын
He got beat by Leon Spinks, how great could he have been?
@anitelufalemei4200
@anitelufalemei4200 4 жыл бұрын
henry dicarlo Ali didn’t take him seriously enough and came back and beat him anyway WAY past his prime with signs of Parkinson’s. He was slow in every way and relied solely on his mind and won.
@darrenstopper1806
@darrenstopper1806 Жыл бұрын
@@hmldjr just disingenuous to rate Ali’s entire career based off that one fight.which took place at the end of Ali’s AMAZING career.After beating many hof fighters and guys who were monsters in the ring and seemingly invincible.The whole Ali losing to slinks proves he’s not good is mayweather fan logic
@00788
@00788 5 жыл бұрын
Wilder may be the ardent puncher ever and he only weighted 212 in his last fight that shit is crazy! Cause its hard for me to believe Mariano beats Lenox Lewis or George Forman or Mike Tyson not to mention Ali. Robinson he’d give a lot of these guys hell including Floyd! But one thing I got to say about Floyd is he’s a throw back fighter! He’s not doing something new in the sport< he’s doing something old that the modern fighter never learned That’s what makes him special!
@vincentfisher1603
@vincentfisher1603 5 жыл бұрын
David Tua is the same height as Marciano. Tua was too heavy and he never learned to cut off the ring on his opponent. Tyson was an emotionally shot fighter when he confronted Lewis. Marciano was a nut, as was Holyfield, about conditioning and would have to come in heavier, 215 lbs, as did Tyson and Holyfield to compete against today's heavies who are 6'5 and beyond. You decide.
@vena180
@vena180 5 жыл бұрын
Marciano was undefeated for a reason
@liebebile6515
@liebebile6515 2 жыл бұрын
the same Ali said Marciano would have been the fighter that could have caused him the most problems, also due to his style of boxing.
@frankpaya690
@frankpaya690 Жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson is probably the most overrated media / Don King Creation in the history of boxing. When ever Tyson faced a fighter that didn't believe the press releases he showed he was really just a bully as in his last fight when he refused to answer the Bell against McBride and then capped on McBride whom he was afraid to face when McBride was more than willing to finish the job against Tyson.
@NoPrivateProperty
@NoPrivateProperty 3 жыл бұрын
Rocky ducked out just in time, Liston would have embarrassed him
@fvgc454ss
@fvgc454ss 3 жыл бұрын
Pffft. Marciano has 90% ko rate. Liston only had a few tkos in his first 10-12 fights by the time Rocky was retired. Liston lost to Marshall as well early in his career
@chuckcollins2349
@chuckcollins2349 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree
@lendrury2771
@lendrury2771 2 жыл бұрын
@@fvgc454ss rocky would have made liston quit and beat the shit out of him Liston.was a front runner who looked great when everything was going his way but as soon as he faced adversity he crumbled He quit against ali twice and I guarantee that the first time rocky landed one of his hammers on liston he would have folded Say what you want about his destruction of Patterson and I love Floyd he was a technician in the ring but he had a glass jaw and he was very slightly built . Rocky was short but thickly built and strong as a fkn bull
@louisj.marciano2562
@louisj.marciano2562 2 жыл бұрын
Liston embarrass ROCKY MARCIANO. You mean the Sonny Liston that quit on his stool from being a little lumped up from being hit b the non power punching Cassius Clay and then in the rerun bout got knocked out by a quarter punch and then got shellacked out cold by Leotis Martin…. Liston made a career out of embarrassing himself. When it was on the line, when it counted the most. In his biggest moments on his grandest stage sonny pooped his pants…
@NoPrivateProperty
@NoPrivateProperty 2 жыл бұрын
Louis J. Marciano little white boy had no chance against Liston.
@WattsUpTez10mm
@WattsUpTez10mm 5 жыл бұрын
Marciano fights were fixed
@trhancock7939
@trhancock7939 5 жыл бұрын
I don,t think so.marciano was a beast.
@yankee2666
@yankee2666 5 жыл бұрын
You need to have your brain fixed, Lane - you're an ignorant jackass.
@captainrabbit5644
@captainrabbit5644 5 жыл бұрын
What da fock y talk about
@iggyg1370
@iggyg1370 5 жыл бұрын
You need to look at the injury reports of the people Rocky fought, then tell me if they were fixed.
@dantedlane2
@dantedlane2 5 жыл бұрын
Who would take the punishment that long,stupid,no proof,useless jealous comment
@chrisbennett606
@chrisbennett606 5 жыл бұрын
Marciano fought old washed up fighters on the tail end of their careers
@yankee2666
@yankee2666 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you're not as ugly as you are ignorant; you'd need to keep a bag over your head at all times.
@MORCOPOLO0817
@MORCOPOLO0817 5 жыл бұрын
More identity bias from a BRO!
@jamesmonteverde5538
@jamesmonteverde5538 5 жыл бұрын
Your brain is washed up.
@asdaadas7797
@asdaadas7797 5 жыл бұрын
He started when he was 25, which is old as a heavyweight, ezzard charles was only a couple year's older than him, the fella's he fought had much more experience, he never ran out of energy and could knock you out just as hard as he could in the first round in any round, joe frazier said he was better than him, muhammad ali said he would've been a tough fight, but somehow a loser like you think he's trash, cool.
@louisj.marciano2562
@louisj.marciano2562 2 жыл бұрын
Ali rates ROCKY MARCIANO at the top and admits that he sees ROCKY beating him and Al says that maybe he could have out pointed him but knows he could not have knocked him out. George Foreman has ROCKY MARCIANO number # 2 of ALL time…. Point being ROCKY MARCIANO is revered by his contemporaries but you get social media trolls that try to criticize a FIGHTER that beat all WORLD CLASS fighters of his time. They attempt to disparage ROCKY MARCIANO for not fighting boxers that didn’t exist during his ascend and while he reined over all in his time.
@ursamaat-rasetepenramessum3752
@ursamaat-rasetepenramessum3752 5 жыл бұрын
Rocky Marciano fought bums.
@yankee2666
@yankee2666 5 жыл бұрын
Were you born an ignoramus, or did you work real hard to become one?
@MORCOPOLO0817
@MORCOPOLO0817 5 жыл бұрын
More identity bias from a BRO!
@lendrury2771
@lendrury2771 2 жыл бұрын
@@yankee2666 rocky didn't make the fkn rankings either He fought the guys who were in the top ten and I get so sick of hearing that all his opponents were past their prime Joe Louis was on a solid winning streak when he faced rocky Ezzard Charles was a technician in the ring and Archie Moore was an all time great and he knocked Patterson on his ass before Floyd caught him and won the title Rocky ducked no one . He got out of the game because he wanted to spend more time with his family and he wanted to leave with his brain intact
@lloydkline1518
@lloydkline1518 2 жыл бұрын
@@lendrury2771 no comeback against young Floyd Patterson;;senior citizens old man Archie moore knockdown rocky Marciano
@darrenstopper1806
@darrenstopper1806 Жыл бұрын
@@lloydkline1518 pattersons trainer didn’t want Paterson anyway near marciano.Paterson words.And when marciano retired Paterson wasn’t ranked No1 .this narrative that marciano ducked out just in time to avoid patterson as if patterson was next to fight marciano is fairly new.was Paterson even a heavyweight at that time
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